#Soylent | Logs for 2019-08-15

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[00:06:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? - http://sylnt.us - that's-the-combination-to-my-luggage!
[00:07:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Victory Golden Monkey" - "Belgian-style Tripel Ale with added spice" - 9.5% Alc/Vol
[00:07:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's...stronger than what I usually drink (without going straight to liquor).
[00:13:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have decided that I do not like this beer.
[00:13:43] * AndyTheAbsurd passes the can to FatPhil for him to finish off.
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[01:46:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Will Buy Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contract (Update: No Agreement) - http://sylnt.us - fair-stretch
[03:15:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Evidence of "Swimmer's Ear" Found in Neanderthals - http://sylnt.us - too-much-surfing
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[04:04:38] <Sulla> Epstein murder starting to get interesting
[04:04:40] <Sulla> "Among the bones broken in Epstein's neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam's apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said."
[04:04:48] <Sulla> https://www.lmtonline.com
[04:04:49] <upstart> ^ 03Autopsy finds broken bones in Epstein's neck, deepening questions around his death
[04:55:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former Google Employee Leaks Docs to Project Veritas, Claims Google Initiated Police Wellness Check - http://sylnt.us - don't-not-do-evil
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[05:35:47] <hopdevil> I'm getting 500s, anyone else?
[05:36:15] <chromas> Same here
[05:42:30] <chromas> tmb's bounce script didn't fix it
[05:42:41] <Sulla> Glad someone submitted the veritas article
[05:42:49] <chromas> 4009 Cluster Failure
[05:42:59] <Sulla> I felt bad submitting an article from them as I don't know how much i trust them as a source
[05:46:09] * chromas fiddles around like he knows what he's doing
[05:46:24] <chromas> I bet I was supposed to restart mysqld as a particular user
[05:50:07] <chromas> Well I didn't fix it, but I still earned this here banana bread
[05:51:17] <chromas> Maybe if I say NCommander or fyngyrz or paulej72 or some other names, they'll magically appear
[05:53:36] <hopdevil> 503 now, not sure if that is an improvement
[05:53:47] <chromas> ooh, this box has systemd
[05:54:05] <chromas> I think the db servers have aids
[05:54:17] <chromas> or at least, slashd thinks so
[05:54:28] <hopdevil> 99 problems and systemd is most of those?
[05:54:39] <chromas> Nah, the other boxes have some other initd
[05:54:43] <chromas> Whatever's on gentoo I guess
[05:55:38] <chromas> I remember when I discovered systemd takes over automount duty when umount /home kept remounting itself
[05:55:47] <chromas> Figured out I had to systemctl stop home.mount
[05:58:37] <chromas> I actually have no idea how mysql-cluster works
[05:59:22] * chromas just restarts things and hopes they don't break some more
[05:59:51] * chromas will soon be fired
[06:12:12] <chromas> Think of all the lost ad revenues :'(
[06:13:03] <janrinok> I'll make sure it doesn't affect your pay!
[06:13:27] <chromas> whew
[06:15:51] <chromas> Sorta weird I don't really know what I'm doing but I have access to everything.
[06:16:05] <janrinok> I wasn't going to ask :)
[06:27:34] <chromas> Well there, I managed to change it to a different error. Now it can't connect to mysqld at all
[06:29:02] <chromas> [ERROR] unknown variable 'key_buffer=16M'
[06:29:02] <chromas> [ERROR] Aborting
[06:29:10] <chromas> in mysql/error.log
[06:41:34] <janrinok> All I can do is cheer you on from the sidelines
[06:42:15] <janrinok> Is there a single script that restarts everything, in the correct order, with the correct usernames?
[06:42:46] <chromas> tmb's bounce script doesn't do the sql part
[06:43:34] <chromas> the log's saying key_buffer is an invalid variable. I tried changing it to the more moderner key_buffer_size but starting the sqld takes all day
[06:44:14] <chromas> still shows the same error so I must be editing the wrong my.cnf (there's a bunch of 'em)
[06:44:55] <janrinok> something to put in the 'lessons learned' notes I suppose
[06:45:03] * chromas puts it back and looks for another file
[06:45:13] <chromas> Hope I don't make things worse ;)
[06:46:04] <chromas> Maybe I need to learn the find command or something
[06:46:31] <janrinok> as long as you change back any changes that you make, we should be good. And you can't make the site any worse - there isn't one at the moment
[06:47:31] <janrinok> and we don't know what caused the site to go down, do we?
[06:47:45] <chromas> I don't
[06:47:52] <janrinok> poking it with a stick is all you can do at the moment
[06:47:59] <chromas> if I were a real sysadmin I probably should've looked at the logs first
[06:48:08] <chromas> I guess they're not going anywhere though
[06:48:57] <janrinok> I'm a great believer in organising things so that one big red button (or script) does everything
[06:49:30] <janrinok> if it worked last time, it should work again...
[06:50:08] <janrinok> but I thought TMB's script did that
[06:50:10] <chromas> That's why I dunno why it's complaining about the config variables. It's been running
[06:50:18] <chromas> Unless it got upgraded and not restarted
[06:50:40] <chromas> his script just restarts varnish and apache
[06:50:44] <chromas> unless there's another script
[06:51:33] * chromas noses around in Bytram's home dir. Nothin' there :(
[06:52:32] <janrinok> I've got to go and look after my wife - be back as soon as I can to continue cheering. Thanks for trying though!
[06:53:45] <janrinok> I think some things are still being changed as we move from ubuntu to gentoo - but I could be totally wrong about that. Not my part of the ship, as they say.
[06:54:05] <chromas> ~g'day then
[06:54:06] * exec homogeneously gives a stack of buck feta to then
[06:54:21] <chromas> Thanks for the cheers
[06:58:24] <chromas> Hm, so when I changed key_buffer to key_buffer_size, it still found the old name, but when I comment them out then it works
[06:59:35] <chromas> now I just noticed the log's from 2017
[06:59:40] <chromas> So where's the current one?
[06:59:49] * chromas adjusts dunce hat
[07:08:33] <chromas> Jesus wept.
[07:09:35] <chromas> Hey, didn't there used to be a "shat's broke" page to stick on the site when things go bad?
[07:11:16] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[07:11:17] <MrPlow> Kesklinn, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 66/53F, Humidity: 77%, Precip: 34%, Wind ~11mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 71/58F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 13%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 74/61F, Humidity: 70%, Precip: 5%, Wind ~8mph.
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[07:39:41] <chromas> If the servers all had systemd then I could find the mysqld logs :D
[07:55:42] <FatPhil> And if "Precip: 34%" meant "only a 34% chance of rain", I'd be happy too. Alas, it means 100% chance of rain. Gonna be fun looking at the climate stats for this month/year, I reckon we're at 150% of august average already.
[07:56:45] <chromas> Not 34% chance. It's 34% rain
[07:56:52] <FatPhil> last year we had 10% of the month's average, year before that we had 220%. Our error bars are as big as the clouds.
[07:57:03] <FatPhil> 66% acid?
[07:57:03] <chromas> 34% of your daily recommended intake
[07:57:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Brain Region May be Why Some Robots Send Chills Down Your Spine - http://sylnt.us - uncanny-valley || Ross Perot, Billionaire Former Presidential Candidate, Has Died at Age 89 - http://sylnt.us - R.I.P. || Researcher: Seriously, Stop Using RSA - http://sylnt.us - it's-complicated || Samba Finally Dumps Defaulting to Support Unsafe - 15 more
[07:57:31] <chromas> At least part of it's working
[07:57:33] <chromas> SemperOSS++
[07:57:33] <Bender> karma - sempeross: 6
[07:57:51] <chromas> Hehe, Forbidden
[07:58:14] <SemperOSS> I am trying to get the frontpage up
[07:58:31] <chromas> You got the rss stuff working it looks like
[08:00:22] <chromas> 500 in one browser, 403 in another. Weird
[08:11:07] <chromas> It's probably Russian haxx. OR CTR
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[08:27:42] <chromas> SemperOSS++
[08:27:42] <Bender> karma - sempeross: 7
[08:27:51] <SemperOSS> Seems we are up again
[08:28:11] <chromas> Login takes awhile.
[08:28:16] * chromas finds something to complain about
[08:28:23] <chromas> 503
[08:28:25] * SemperOSS down't care
[08:28:32] <chromas> Does the other box need reboot too?
[08:28:41] <chromas> hydrogen or whatever
[08:29:11] <SemperOSS> I'll give it an eyeball and see if anything's up
[08:29:20] <FatPhil> "11:26 <theanna> What's up with Soylent News? Have they just restored the site from a month-old backup?"
[08:29:27] <chromas> 'cause I'm getting 503s again
[08:29:56] <chromas> You're right; the front page was July 12. I didn't notice that
[08:30:33] <chromas> now I'm logged in
[08:30:37] <chromas> still July 12
[08:30:57] <SemperOSS> Oh, oh, oh, oh. Anybody got a direct line to the old hands?
[08:30:58] <chromas> I've even got "new" messages from July 11
[08:31:15] <chromas> Not I
[08:31:26] <chromas> tmb should be by in a couple hours. Can't remember anyone else's schedule
[08:32:43] <SemperOSS> Somebody was talking about checking the backups, I wonder if they did a test gone wrong?
[08:32:55] <chromas> Even the Stories page for editors shows July 12
[08:33:20] <chromas> Could be. Well, now we know
[08:33:25] <chromas> Not sure what we know, but we do
[08:33:31] <SemperOSS> I have not been following the conversations here for some days due to visitors, has there been any indications of goings on?
[08:34:04] <chromas> Not that I recall
[08:34:42] <chromas> For now, we should just start posting stuff from the ancient queue and pretend everything's normal ;)
[08:35:20] <SemperOSS> And that could definitely not go wrong with mixed IDs and such when we restore the new database?
[08:35:45] <chromas> Well then we can go back to posting current subs
[08:36:09] * chromas logs in, installs pipedot
[08:36:49] <chromas> Replace the front page with https://www.pewpewtactical.com
[08:37:55] <chromas> 503
[08:38:36] <SemperOSS> Cluster failure
[08:39:09] <SemperOSS> And /srv/soylentnews.org/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.20.1/Slash/Utility/Environment.pm
[08:39:23] <chromas> Well, AIDS
[08:39:23] <SemperOSS> Wrong ... and /srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-mainpage/htdocs/communityreviews/comments.pl
[08:39:32] <SemperOSS> It is missing
[08:39:55] <SemperOSS> File does not exist /srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-mainpage/htdocs/communityreviews/comments.pl
[08:40:01] <SemperOSS> Why that now?
[08:41:46] <SemperOSS> I'll try rebooting flourine again. OK?
[08:42:33] <SemperOSS> Going ...
[08:42:45] <SemperOSS> Going ...
[08:42:46] <FatPhil> DO we have a panic button "sorry, we'll be back shortly" page?
[08:42:57] <SemperOSS> Not that I know
[08:43:14] <SemperOSS> Gone
[08:43:39] <chromas> There used to be. Not sure where it was or how to have activated it
[08:51:39] <SemperOSS> The current error message is not from Apache
[08:58:50] * chromas starts apache, but probably ruined SemperOSS's debugging
[09:03:41] <SemperOSS> We seem to be back to the good old days again.
[09:03:47] * SemperOSS is stumped at the mo
[09:06:48] <FatPhil> so we're saying it's a cluster fuck?
[09:07:14] <SemperOSS> Yup
[09:07:26] <FatPhil> lunchtime!
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[09:18:27] * FatPhil is now known as Status-fucked
[09:19:30] <Status-curious> https://status.soylentnews.org is throwing up a kerberos login for chillax.soylentnews.org, rather than a static page.
[09:20:31] <Status-curious> Main site has gone back in time to Friday 12 July.
[09:20:58] <Status-curious> I guess I am not the only one to have noticed this.
[09:26:51] <Status-curious> It will be interesting to find out what went wrong. Thank you in advance to whoever is working to resolve the problem(s). Please don't feel pressured to do things quickly rather than right.
[09:29:14] <chromas> We've got our top men on it
[09:29:26] <janrinok> I don't think you can access the channel where all the work is going on - but trust me it looks like fun...
[09:29:36] <janrinok> our top men and chromas
[09:30:01] <janrinok> apparently we have hit a time warp and it is now July again
[09:30:08] * chromas chucks a hammer into the mix
[09:31:35] <janrinok> to all those who arrive here: We have major problems at present. We are doing what we can with the people we have available, but certain key figures are not around at the moment.
[09:32:15] <janrinok> Please be patient - I will try to keep you entertained ^W informed with the work being carried out.
[09:32:43] <chromas> Let's all go to slashdot :D
[09:33:46] * janrinok goes to find his old /. password
[09:34:00] <janrinok> nah, I'll stay here, it is more entertaining
[09:37:46] <FatPhil> i don't remember any of my /. passwords
[09:41:01] <SemperOSS> Coffee++
[09:41:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4910
[09:41:18] <Bytram> .topic SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed
[09:41:35] <Bytram> .op
[09:41:35] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[09:41:38] <Bytram> .topic SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed
[09:43:00] <chromas> .topicappend site's down, y'all
[09:43:03] <chromas> aw
[09:43:09] <chromas> no auth
[09:43:09] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: WE ARE AWARE OF THERE BEING ISSUES WITH THE SITE AND THINGS DONE WITHIN THE PAST MONTH OR SO APPEARING TO BE MISSING - INVESTIGATING NOW
[09:43:25] <chromas> Needs a blinkentag
[09:43:52] <Bytram> nah, add a marquee
[09:44:16] <chromas> why_don't_we_have_both?.mp4
[09:44:33] <SemperOSS> In 8K?
[09:44:50] <chromas> only with ircv3
[09:45:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site issues... Investigating 2019-08-15 - http://sylnt.us - Ruh-Roh!
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[09:46:49] * Bytram added IRC to site issues story
[09:47:43] <FatPhil> IRC's an interesting fallback - we can play the game of "bullshit conversation", rather than "bullshit argument".
[09:48:14] <chromas> But I can't downmod people I disagree with
[09:48:19] * Bytram feels bullish that things will work out
[09:48:40] <Bytram> chromas-- Sure you can!
[09:48:40] <Bender> karma - chromas: 257
[09:48:48] <Bytram> poutine-- See!
[09:48:48] <Bender> karma - poutine: -433
[09:48:49] <chromas> oh yeah
[09:48:52] <chromas> Chromas++
[09:48:52] <Bender> karma - chromas: 258
[09:48:56] <chromas> and I can upvote myself
[09:50:08] <FatPhil> Chromas-- bad boi!
[09:50:08] <Bender> karma - chromas: 257
[09:50:51] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:50:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4911
[09:51:02] <Bytram> now try to downmod coffee!
[09:51:17] <Bytram> !karma coffee
[09:51:17] <Bender> karma of coffee is 4911
[09:51:19] <chromas> Coffee--
[09:51:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4910
[09:51:25] <FatPhil> anyway, lunch was lamb masala, and they have a great sri lankan chef, and we asked for it extra hot, so all is good.
[09:52:08] <Aphrodite> coffee--
[09:52:08] <Bender> karma - tea: 604
[09:53:09] <Bytram> =)
[09:53:34] <Bytram> Yes, I don't know how they do that. Still think it is kewel. =)
[09:53:34] <Aphrodite> .topicprepend test
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[09:56:48] <Status-curious> If someone has the access and the available resources, it might be a sensible idea to get status.soylentnews.org working. A plain, no frills, static page would be good. I thought that, in principle, it should be there when the main site was not working, but I fully understand if there are other priorities right now.
[09:57:59] <chromas> import TheMightyBuzzard;
[10:00:24] <Status-curious> "This page was generated by a Fleet of Overworked Squirrels". I guess we should be sending you nuts, and more squirrels. I'm very good at sending people nuts.
[10:00:29] <FatPhil> can't go wrong static pages are a good idea.
[10:01:02] <chromas> I usually go to the comments when I need nuts
[10:03:48] <Bytram> I raised that same idea about 5 years ago (static page) and was told there was some kind of issue between there being frontends and stuff that I could not follow along with.
[10:04:25] <Bytram> I could update the main page template with a message, but I think the current story there should suffice.
[10:05:31] <Status-curious> Which is fine, but https://soylentnews.org says "Site Status ( http://status.soylentnews.org )| A static page used to relay information regarding downtime. It will be updated in cases of unexpected downtime."
[10:05:31] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: About
[10:05:49] <Bytram> huh!
[10:07:31] * Bytram has never seen that implemented and... note the "http" for the status page? we went httpS-only early on with this site (prolly like 5 years ago)
[10:07:44] <Status-curious> I have no problem with a static page with correct status being administratively difficult to do, and therefore not done. Unfortunately, the about page links there, so sets an expectation. Again, I am not saying it needs to be dealt wwith RIGHT NOW!, but perhaps it can be cleared up when the dust has settled. Other things are more important right now.
[10:07:54] <Bytram> IOW, I think that statement is more of an aspiration rather than something that had actually been implemented
[10:08:12] <Bytram> and then fell through the cracks.
[10:08:54] <Status-curious> I have no problem with that. Deal with it later.
[10:09:06] <FatPhil> https://edition.cnn.com
[10:09:09] <upstart> ^ 03Drive-in sex booths proposed for Berlin's historic Tempelhof airport
[10:12:07] * Bytram just commented that out of the *live* template: about;about;default if there is a restore then it will go away.
[10:12:27] <Bytram> Status-curious: give a few minutes for the change to work its way through the frontends.
[10:12:31] <Bytram> break time
[10:13:33] <Status-curious> OK - thanks. Enjoy your break.
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[10:18:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:18:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4911
[10:18:52] <chromas> "But the airfield may soon take on less wholesome role"
[10:18:58] <chromas> From wholesome to holesome
[10:19:24] <chromas> No fooshin' for your today
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[10:20:45] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[10:20:45] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
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[10:25:02] <chromas> nothin's happening
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[10:25:13] <chromas> >:(
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[10:25:42] <chromas> I drove him away with my angry face
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[10:29:22] <Status-curious> @Bytram Status page change has worked its way through to the front-end I just connected to. No reply necessary.
[10:30:24] <Bytram_> Good to know, thanks!
[10:30:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh
[10:30:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[10:30:48] * exec points at Bytram
[10:31:01] <Bytram_> LOL!
[10:31:25] <Bytram_> ididndonuthin!
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[10:50:07] * janrinok thinks it looks like everybody is running away ....
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[10:53:51] <SoyCow2254> hm... cozy
[10:54:01] <SoyCow2254> good luck with the site
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[10:54:47] <chromas> Channel should be full of chatter, like old times
[10:55:00] <chromas> Much talk about bread and beer
[10:55:02] <chromas> SoylentBrews
[10:55:31] * FatPhil wakes up from his slumber
[10:56:10] <chromas> Slumber party at FatPhil's!
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[10:56:14] <Status-curious> Well, I'm here to find out what's happening with the site, so keeping quiet to keep the signal-to-noise ratio high.
[10:58:01] <Status-curious> I also have other things I should be doing rather than hanging around heer and shooting the breeze. But I'm unreasonably good at shirking responsibilities.
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[11:02:21] <chromas> Before the site pooped its pants, I was putting Zork into an irc bot
[11:02:55] <chromas> nfrotz can take input from stdin but it gets stuck and pins the cpu when input ends
[11:03:14] <Bytram> as much as I wanted to like Zork, it just seemed like it tried too hard. Still a fan of the original 350-point Adventure / Colossal Cave
[11:03:35] <chromas> I'ven't played any of 'em
[11:04:08] <chromas> but if it takes stdin input, I can put it in upstart
[11:04:28] <Bytram> kewel
[11:05:19] <chromas> I see adventure-qnx and open-adventure
[11:05:56] <Bytram> #g wikipedia Colossal Cave
[11:05:56] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Mammoth Cave National Park is an American national park in central Kentucky, encompassing portions of Mammoth Cave, the longest cave system known in ..."
[11:06:01] <Bytram> #g wikipedia Colossal Cave adventure
[11:06:02] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Colossal Cave Adventure is a text adventure game, developed between 1975-1977, by Will Crowther for the PDP-10 mainframe. The game was expanded upon ..."
[11:06:03] <chromas> hm, qnx is an os. It's too bad RIM got bored with it and sold out to Big Android
[11:06:32] <boru> That was a cover up.
[11:06:44] <boru> It was eaten by a grue.
[11:06:46] <chromas> The RIM job?
[11:07:04] <chromas> ooh
[11:07:09] <boru> It was a rimside job.
[11:07:18] <chromas> how about an irc bot that connects to a C64 by serial port?
[11:07:23] <boru> Why?
[11:07:35] <chromas> What kind of question is that?
[11:07:44] <boru> A short one.
[11:07:50] <chromas> Oh, you're right. The C64 should be running the bot itself
[11:08:16] <boru> Yes, writing text parsing routines in assembly is piles of fun.
[11:09:24] <boru> I've worked with QNX, amongst other RTOS throughout my career. It's pretty awful, althought it's fully POSIX compliant, which is nice.
[11:10:05] <chromas> Shirley, someone's figured out how to stuff Python onto a 6502 puter
[11:10:24] <boru> Please stop, I've just had breakfast.
[11:10:42] <janrinok> Status-curious, we are still at the scratching heads phase of recovery. There were faults that appeared around 0520'ish (UTC) which are looking strange.
[11:11:01] <Bytram> chromas: just for giggles... look around for "advent"
[11:13:13] <chromas> hehe, well I found dungeonfs, which is a "FUSE filesystem and dungeon vrawling adventures game engine"
[11:13:25] <Bytram> lol
[11:13:39] <chromas> Mountable games. What a time to be alive
[11:13:46] <boru> People sure do abuse FUSE...
[11:14:02] <chromas> There's a FUSE driver for mounting wikipedia/mediawiki
[11:14:31] <boru> There are FUSE drivers for all sorts of things, even HTTP based abominations like that.
[11:15:01] <janrinok> boru, some like to think it is not abuse, but innovative. Me? I sit on the fence and wait to see if it works or not :)
[11:15:13] <Status-curious> @janirok - Thank you for the update.
[11:15:17] <boru> Bytram; wrt site issues, have you grepped the DB logs to see if it was something sent by a client that caused it, or whether something internally caused it?
[11:15:44] <boru> A timestamp from that would give you a breadcrumb to go on.
[11:16:50] <Bytram> boru: I'm more at the app-using level. I have a conceptual idea of the underlying plumbing, but let's just say you prolly don't want me doing admin for your site.
[11:17:06] <boru> There's nothing innovative about it. The whole point of FUSE is to implement transparent FS semantics for some bespoke protocol.
[11:17:26] <chromas> I'm disappointed that I haven't found a FUSE-based irc client yet
[11:17:27] <boru> Are you on your own tracking it down at the moment?
[11:17:36] * janrinok thinks 'prolly' translates to 'definitely' in this case
[11:17:58] <Bytram> IOW, stuff that is exposed through the site UI I'm probably (for the most part) good to go. what happens at the lower level DBs / frontends / etc. is not in my wheelhouse
[11:18:02] <Status-curious> Perhaps it is time for the Microsoft approach to problem solving: turn it off, then turn it back on again? <<-- This is not serious.
[11:18:26] <janrinok> Status-curious, do you think we haven't tried that? :)
[11:18:27] <boru> Some UNIX shells have something you can conceptually do something like that with (IRC bot).
[11:18:33] <Bytram> boru: no. TMB and SemperOSS are both digging into it. (thankfully!)
[11:18:46] <chromas> How many times did you reboot it?
[11:18:57] <boru> Hmm, alright. I'd help if I could.
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[11:19:53] <janrinok> they wisely keep me at arms length when it comes to the hardware
[11:19:58] <boru> Binary chopping through the logs closest to the problem to get a timestamp for the incident would be where I'd start, but I'll stop backseat investigating now.
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[11:21:13] <Status-curious> Hmm. if the problem persists across reboots, then a file/DB is corrupt, or a config has been borked (which is just another corrupt file). Another possibility is if someone has made a change to the running system without changing the corresponding startup config/script in the same way. Which is a pain to resolve. Benn there, done that...eaten the rabbit.
[11:22:08] <Bytram> Should have taken a left turn at Albuquerque
[11:22:18] <boru> Hashing or diffing against the backup would resolve that.
[11:22:21] <chromas> Is it duck season already?
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[11:23:53] <Status-curious> Another possibility is if a counter has wrapped somewhere. Have we hit 2e16 articles or something?
[11:24:32] <chromas> Each article should get its own IPv6 address
[11:24:44] <Status-curious> No, UUID
[11:25:17] <chromas> Same length
[11:25:19] <Bytram> #smake chopchop1
[11:25:19] * MrPlow smakes chopchop1 upside the head with rubber duck
[11:25:30] <Bytram> oops tab completion error
[11:25:37] <Bytram> #smake chromas
[11:25:37] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a SASL sausage
[11:25:59] <chromas> #smakeadd a UUID
[11:25:59] <MrPlow> "a UUID" added.
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[11:26:51] <janrinok> Bytram, your 30 minute update is about 4 minutes away.
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[11:27:16] <Status-curious> Well, IPv6 address implies articles would be individually adressable and running a network stack. UUIDs are 'just' labels.
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[11:27:30] <Bytram> yep, but I just heard from TMB that I should have just downed the site instead of putting up a story.
[11:27:48] <Bytram> 'cause that new story messes with the DB
[11:27:52] <janrinok> hehehe I read that too
[11:28:10] <chromas> They should be. To read comments, connect up to the story's ip address. Each comment has its own port
[11:28:33] <Bytram> I could always update the template for the main page, instead, but that, too, means a DB change. :/
[11:28:53] <Status-curious> Although embedding an AI chatbot in each article might be intereating: connect to it to discuss it with itself.
[11:28:59] <janrinok> prolly best leave it and go into the explanations later.
[11:29:05] <chromas> Bytram: or reconfigure injun x
[11:29:40] <Bytram> janrinok: was what I came up with, too. Oh well!
[11:29:55] <Bytram> looks like they are making some progress.
[11:29:59] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[11:30:00] <upstart> ^ 03Likely state of Colorado record diameter hailstone ( https://watchers.news )
[11:30:07] <janrinok> I was right behind you - pushing you on while trying to look innocent
[11:31:21] <janrinok> I think that TMB's "da fuq" and SemperOSS' "it just died" are not good signs of progress
[11:31:35] <chromas> Time to start anew
[11:31:44] <chromas> How about WordPress?
[11:31:45] <Bytram> chromas: start a new what?
[11:32:01] <Status-curious> Could also be a bad stick of RAM. That's always fun to diagnose remotely.
[11:32:14] <Bytram> ouch.
[11:33:56] <Status-curious> Of course, these days, you 'just' spin up the VM on different hardware, and the problem magically goes away, and some other poor schmuck gets a go on the hardware you just vacated.
[11:34:48] <janrinok> I wonder if it is significant that the last page that displays on the site also contains the last story I think that we accepted from Ari? Coincidence?
[11:34:58] <Bytram> that would imply our running a VM on top of the VMs that we get from Linode to run the site.
[11:35:15] <Bytram> janrinok: yes.
[11:35:48] <SoyCow3052> Has it been 497.1 days since the last database clean?
[11:35:48] * janrinok reckons the Bytram is just guessing - he can't prove it
[11:36:08] <Bytram> are you reckoning or guessing?
[11:36:11] <Status-curious> Its turtles all the way down man....But I last had to deal with remote hardware disgnostics before VMs escaped from IBM's big iron.
[11:36:28] <janrinok> I'm speculating or hypothesising
[11:36:55] * Bytram tested VMs on big iron at IBM... third level VM optimizations were... hairy.
[11:36:58] <chromas> I BM with a big iron too
[11:37:52] <chromas> There should be at least one more accepted ari story, but non-display
[11:38:13] <Bytram> chromas: getting back to adventure... can you run any kind of game interpreter like frotz or inform?
[11:38:23] * Bytram is not so sure of the latter one
[11:39:14] <chromas> I can run whatever you want. I just need to put in some code to pipe it into the bot
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[11:39:31] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: o/
[11:39:31] <chromas> Sorta exec-like, but with less phpoo
[11:39:37] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[11:39:49] <AzumaHazuki> move-in today. finally. in a couple of hours i'll be...well, safer
[11:39:51] <Bytram> chromas: nod nod
[11:39:55] <Status-curious> I need to go and do <important stuff> in real life. Good luck guys.
[11:39:56] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, hi. Just to update you. We are still trouble shooting
[11:40:02] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: yays!
[11:40:17] <AzumaHazuki> janrinok: oh, you found Runaway in meatspace and you've got the sniper team on his tail? :D
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[11:40:27] <janrinok> There are errors that don't seem to make sense and are proving not too easy to fix
[11:40:28] <Bytram> from the looks of things, we are about to embark on trouble cannoning
[11:40:37] <boru> You should check out pbot. One of the ops from ##c over on freenode wrote it. You can compile and execute C, or run perl by giving it the code over IRC.
[11:41:09] <Bytram> that sounds not-so-safe?
[11:41:16] <boru> It's written in perl, but uses process isolation for that part.
[11:41:36] <boru> For the compiler invocation, and the execution.
[11:41:43] <chromas> Is it perl 6?
[11:42:01] <boru> I'm not sure if it's capsicum, but it's not jails, since I think he runs it on a Linux host, rather than BSD or Solaris.
[11:42:06] <boru> It's p5
[11:43:04] <Bytram> #g current phase of the moon
[11:43:04] <MrPlow> https://www.moongiant.com - "Get Today's Moon Phase with current viewing information. ... During a Full Moon the moon is 100% illuminated as seen from Earth and is on the opposite side of ..."
[11:43:19] <AzumaHazuki> ah, no wonder i feel good <3
[11:43:23] * AzumaHazuki loves full moons
[11:43:50] <janrinok> I have problems sleeping with full moons - haven't a clue what the connection is
[11:44:05] <Bytram> not sure if my local moon phase calculator is working off the correct time, but I see we have a full moon in 0:47:18
[11:44:55] <janrinok> ... and that could be bytram-time or some other zone?
[11:45:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:45:21] <chromas> it's one of the two, alright
[11:45:59] <Bytram> #g moon phase Sky & telescope
[11:45:59] <MrPlow> http://www.skyandtelescope.com - "Moon's Phase on Any Date ... Day: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31. Year: AD BC. Phase:"
[11:46:51] <Bytram> #g moon phase navy
[11:46:51] <MrPlow> https://aa.usno.navy.mil - "Aug 15, 2017 ... Then press the \"Get Data\" button to obtain a table showing the dates of the primary phases of the Moon for the number of phases entered. Year:"
[11:47:07] * boru grumbles about the moon.
[11:47:57] <chromas> https://www.itworld.com
[11:47:58] <upstart> ^ 03PHP plus: P++ proposal would create a stricter dialect
[11:48:12] * chromas moons the channel with php
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[11:48:22] <boru> It was full last night, and it was the first night I got to get out to image and get some data. Alas, the target I was imaging is a faint [OIII] emission supernova remanant...and moonlight, being a broadband light source peaks around [OIII], so an already difficult and dim target had its SNR wiped out by it.
[11:49:18] <AzumaHazuki> i tend to go out and stare at it, honestly. it's beautiful.
[11:49:52] <Bytram> oh, wait! Where did I see that? brb
[11:50:28] <janrinok> I'm fortunate to live in an area with reasonably low light pollution. I have to agree with Az on this one.
[11:50:48] <Bytram> https://www.theverge.com
[11:50:49] <upstart> ^ 03Hasselblad’s new 400-megapixel Multi-Shot camera captures 2.4GB stills
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[11:50:55] <Bytram> nope
[11:51:16] <Bytram> https://www.diyphotography.net
[11:51:17] <upstart> ^ 03This epic 81-megapixel moon photo was stacked from 50,000 images
[11:51:23] <boru> I've got Bortle 4 skies here, SQM ~20.61 mag/arcsec^2, so pretty optimal for emission line imaging.
[11:51:30] <boru> The problem is the moon.
[11:51:43] <boru> The worst source of light pollution after Sol.
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[11:52:42] <Bytram> just wait for starlink and the other low-orbit satellite meshes to get established. :/
[11:53:01] <AzumaHazuki> that makes an awesome desktop wallpaper
[11:53:57] <boru> Don't get me started on starlink. There's been a lot of discussion about it at work.
[11:53:57] <janrinok> With that resolution you can almost see the footprints left behind - well, almost
[11:54:25] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: thought you'd like it!
[11:54:31] <AzumaHazuki> thank you :)
[11:54:35] <Bytram> hth
[11:54:36] <boru> When I worked in space, spacecraft albedo for LEO was also a part of the discussion. They're a bunch of clowns at spacex.
[11:54:58] <boru> That's spatial resolution, not optical resolution.
[11:55:11] <AzumaHazuki> can't seem to find the crystal towers or the thriving utopian kingdom though... *squints
[11:55:39] <boru> You'd need a lot of aperture to have the optical resolution to see features that small on the moon. And since it'd probably be Earth based, the optics are going to be diffraction limited.
[11:55:57] <boru> Even with some bleeding edge AO.
[11:56:24] <Bytram> to be gracious, how about they are "focused" on getting the craft up and working and did not consider their causing light pollution. Now that it HAS been brought to their attention, I suspect it will improve.
[11:56:38] <Bytram> they are quite good at iterating
[11:56:47] <boru> Which is the problem.
[11:57:35] <boru> 1) This is a discussion that should be had on the ground and 2) albedo is a concern for just about any satellite company.
[11:57:36] <Bytram> they make mistakes and learn from them... that's a problem?
[11:57:40] <boru> It's hubris at spacex.
[11:57:56] <Bytram> I'll grant you that
[11:57:57] <boru> I worked with a bunch of guys that used to work there. Their stories confirm it.
[11:58:20] <Bytram> but I also like to think that v2 or whatever will be better?
[11:58:44] <boru> The reason why albedo is such a hot topic (wait for it) is thermal issues and radiating heat into space.
[11:58:54] <FatPhil> boru - if you're into astronomy - do you find the 81-megapixel moon photo to be abominably terrible? The sharpenning that's been done is eye-scraping.
[11:59:11] <boru> Yeah, I know. I saw it a while ago.
[11:59:31] <boru> But see my point about spatial versus optical resolution above.
[11:59:34] <Bytram> I am not a fan of the atmospheric glow about a moon that is in vacuum
[11:59:58] <FatPhil> the moon's in the earth's atmosphere!
[12:00:14] <FatPhil> (according to some definitions of atmosphere)
[12:00:14] <Bytram> I thought it was further away than that?
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[12:00:29] <Bytram> or is the earth bigger than I remember?
[12:00:38] <boru> I think it was a firmament joke.
[12:00:53] <FatPhil> yeah, some weirdos said "there's more air out there than in the depths of space, so it's still technically part of earth's atmosphere"
[12:00:57] <boru> 1 LD is...far outside Earth's atmosphere.
[12:01:03] <AzumaHazuki> it's more that the atmosphere kind of imperceeptibly shades off into space...there's no solid line with a sign saying "here be space dragons"
[12:01:21] <janrinok> NOTE: they are doing a restart - the site is temporarily down
[12:01:24] <FatPhil> Yuppers
[12:01:44] <boru> There isn't a line, but the fuzzy part is quite narrow.
[12:02:11] <FatPhil> https://www.newsweek.com
[12:02:12] <upstart> ^ 03Earth's Atmosphere Extends Far Beyond the Moon, Scientists Discover
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[12:02:49] <Bytram> in a wy they have a point, esp with a full moon as the sun's (particles? need moah coffee) blow past the Earth and some of Earth's atmosphere gets blown past the moon.
[12:03:02] <Bytram> break time... biab
[12:03:47] <Bytram> ~time x
[12:03:49] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 15 August 2019, 12:03 pm
[12:03:58] <Bytram> Full Moon 2019 Aug 15 12:29
[12:04:07] <Bytram> from: https://aa.usno.navy.mil
[12:04:09] <upstart> ^ 03Phases of the Moon
[12:04:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Saint Petersburg
[12:04:40] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 15 August 2019, 12:04 pm
[12:04:43] <Bytram> so, less than half an hour until fool mun
[12:04:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Tampa
[12:04:48] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 15 August 2019, 12:04 pm
[12:04:52] <Bytram> is borken
[12:05:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> yah, clearly.
[12:05:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was going to do Dededo, Guam (past the international date line) just for funsies but now I can't.
[12:05:45] <Bytram> from what I can tell, there was a PHP update that messed up a few things with that bot
[12:06:25] <Bytram> ^^^ chromas Now there's something useful to have upstart do... not sure where to scrape the info from, tho.
[12:06:45] <Bytram> anyway, break time for me for realsies
[12:07:56] <janrinok> I think the consensus is that TMB is going for a full restore from yesterdays linode snapshot
[12:08:35] <Status-curious> You must have read my mind: I was about to ask if there had been any susbstative progress since I last looked in.
[12:09:05] <janrinok> they are working hard behind the scenes, but the fault(s) do not appear to be obvious.
[12:10:35] <janrinok> They are just thinking the implications through before committing themselves
[12:11:41] <janrinok> ... and checking for any other recent possibly-linked errors
[12:11:46] <Status-curious> Well getting the site back up and working isn't a bad idea. I hope that (a)enough can be preserved that a post-mortem is worthwhile and (b) the relevant people have the time and inclination to do a post-mortem to find out what did go wrong, so a repeat can be avoided.
[12:12:39] <Status-curious> But given everyone working on this is a volunteer, I can understand if no-one has the time, patience, or resources to do (a) and (b).
[12:13:40] <janrinok> one of the problems is that we cannot see an obvious cause for the errors that we are now experiencing.
[12:14:05] <Status-curious> I shall go again, but extend many thank yous to the team working on this.
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[12:14:26] <SemperOSS> The database seems to arbitrarily have dropped a month's worth of data
[12:14:28] <janrinok> they are having a coffee break before the restore begins - they've earned it
[12:16:06] <chromas> https://twitter.com
[12:16:10] <upstart> ^ 03Diana Wilde on Twitter
[12:17:09] <AzumaHazuki> unrestrained profit-seeking turns everything it touches to blasphemous zombie parodies of their former selves in its service. news at 11
[12:18:04] <chromas> Almost every time the FC Ambassador replies it's with another account
[12:19:35] <janrinok> chromas, that is a terrible piece of personnel management
[12:20:34] <chromas> Then later one I guess it's parody accounts
[12:21:20] <chromas> Maybe they're all parodies. Is everything a parody now? How can things be real when my eyes are post-modern?
[12:21:50] <cmn32480> I blame janrinok
[12:21:59] <cmn32480> I don't knwo what for, but obviously it is his fault
[12:22:01] <AzumaHazuki> your eyes are not "post-modern," as 1) if they were you wouldn't notice things like this, and 2) that's not what the fuck post-modern means
[12:22:18] <janrinok> ... oh, here he comes, all the hard work done, and cmn32480 turns up. Hi cmn!!!
[12:22:23] <AzumaHazuki> all post-modern means is giving up on the idea of some Platonic teleological imperative out there guiding the arc of human history
[12:22:27] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[12:22:28] * exec insensitively hurls 40 gallons worth of bean curd at janrinok
[12:22:42] <janrinok> bean curd - my favourite
[12:22:47] <cmn32480> good
[12:22:50] <cmn32480> glad I could help
[12:23:03] <janrinok> how's things in your bit of the world?
[12:23:13] * AzumaHazuki tosses a dozen jars of doubanjiang, a gallon of Shaoxing wine, and a bowl of Sichuan peppercorns after the bean curd
[12:23:29] <cmn32480> busy as crap
[12:23:38] <cmn32480> need to find a project manager so that I don't have to
[12:24:00] <cmn32480> how you been?
[12:24:29] <janrinok> I'm good. Lots to do and less time for myself, but we are happy
[12:24:42] <cmn32480> Good!
[12:24:55] <cmn32480> give S a hug for me
[12:25:00] <janrinok> will do!
[12:25:02] <cmn32480> you can have the sloppy kiss
[12:25:13] <janrinok> er, I'll skip on that thanks
[12:25:34] * cmn32480 makes a kissy face at janrinok
[12:25:35] <janrinok> how's J and the kids?
[12:25:44] <cmn32480> on vacation... while I slave away at the office
[12:26:44] <janrinok> going to have to reboot. Back in a jiffy
[12:27:02] <janrinok> .. nah, I'll do it later
[12:27:20] <cmn32480> must be running Windows...
[12:29:57] <janrinok> nah, but sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do. Server requires kernel update and reboot, so this machine which is linked into it gets a reboot too
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[12:41:03] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:41:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, you lot could have waited to break the db until i wasn't enjoying a cold with accompanying sinus headache. it wouldn't have hurt my feelings.
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[12:42:27] <janrinok> Ah, but we didn't want you to feel forgotten
[12:43:27] <Bytram> TMB's site error page is up: "We're having site issues. Feel free to either enjoy some argument-free time or join us on IRC at irc.soylentnews.org port 6667(6697 for tls) or use the web client."
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[12:44:00] <janrinok> it's not as pretty as _your_ error page
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[12:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke, restoring helium (db server) from linode snapshot. we'll lose at least half a day of stuff.
[12:46:37] <SoyCow2664> ah back to mIRC
[12:46:57] <janrinok> for those who are just joining us - we have had some rather spectacular problems. TMB is going for a restore from a snapshot taken yesterday
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[12:48:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> backup was taken yesterday, hopefully it'll be better than losing a bloody month of activity.
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[12:48:27] <FatPhil> do we know what went wrong yet?
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[12:49:42] <Bytram> not yet
[12:49:48] <janrinok> in short - no. From the outside it seems that we have had various errors from around 0520'ish UTC, but they are not easy to reproduce. Restarting the system does not work so we are going for a restore from yesterday's snapshot. No guarantees though
[12:49:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> something caused mysql-cluster (the ndb part of it) to fuck itself up. not real clear beyond that.
[12:50:08] <Bytram> thanks for the update!
[12:50:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to be a bit on the restore. ima go smoke.
[12:50:46] <boru> Can you replay transactions?
[12:50:57] * FatPhil reads about happy happy fun times of the past and hopeully not the future... https://www.counterpunch.org
[12:51:08] <janrinok> we will lose data from the time of the restore - I think
[12:51:26] <janrinok> i.e. from yesterday
[12:51:32] <Bytram> that is my expectation as well, and what I mentioned in my story post
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[12:51:49] <FatPhil> Can we put SoylentNews on hashgraph?
[12:52:03] <janrinok> dunno - what is hashgraph?
[12:52:03] <Bytram> what is that?
[12:52:12] <Bytram> =g hashgraph
[12:52:13] <upstart> https://www.hedera.com - Hedera Hashgraph
[12:52:22] <Bytram> =g hashgraph wikipedia
[12:52:23] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Hashgraph - Wikipedia
[12:52:27] <Bytram> lol
[12:52:54] <jman> How often is the database backed up? I know folks are all over the time zones, but there must be a "middle of the night" happy medium...
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[12:53:34] <janrinok> linode do a snapshot daily I believe
[12:53:51] <Bytram> we have linode backups enable for (IIIRC) 3 of our nodes
[12:54:18] <Bytram> yes: helium, beryllium, and boron
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[12:54:44] <Bytram> we also have oxygen which is used in some sort of backup capacity, as well.
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[12:55:25] <janrinok> I don't know if we store transactions between snapshots - I haven't heard of us doing that so probably not
[12:55:35] <Bytram> no idea
[12:55:49] <jman> 'k, cool. Was thinking more a cron of automysqlbackup, something like that. Can't have too many backups! Well, unless you run out of storage. ;)
[12:56:14] <jman> Oops, off to work.
[12:56:16] <FatPhil> Do we have any other colourblind crips here apart from anomalous dichromat me?
[12:56:34] <boru> No, we filtered them out in the eugenics program.
[12:56:37] <janrinok> although the reason for the site is the conversations - I don't think that losing a small portion of them is critical to the site
[12:56:46] <FatPhil> boru: oh, I didn't notice that!
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[12:58:38] <Bytram> FatPhil: well, there are some who do seem to prefer to see all things as being back or white... does that count? ;)
[12:59:06] <FatPhil> shut up, racist!
[12:59:08] <janrinok> UPDATE: for those who are just joining us - we have had some rather spectacular problems. TMB is going for a restore from a snapshot taken yesterday
[12:59:25] <FatPhil> What would be a nice bright green that's not too sickly pale: https://www.w3schools.com
[12:59:26] <upstart> ^ 03HTML Color Names
[12:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, no, we're just losing everything post-snapshot
[12:59:31] <jman> 50 shades of greyscale.
[12:59:43] <boru> Ah, I see.
[12:59:45] <FatPhil> I'm currently using "Green" and it's completely indistinguishable from "Red" to me!
[12:59:45] <Bytram> jman++ good one
[12:59:45] <Bender> karma - jman: 2
[12:59:57] <nn> q. Db corruption or underlying virtual hardware corruption?
[13:00:07] <FatPhil> russian hackers
[13:00:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> db. hardware is fine near as i can tell.
[13:00:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> some funky-ass issue with mysql-cluster. sunspots for all i know.
[13:01:07] <boru> Is a redundant db which can replay transactions into one another budget prohibited, or just overkill?
[13:01:11] <nn> kk
[13:01:12] <Bytram> too late now, but I just realized we should prolly saved a copy of the linode for investigative purposes before restoring from backups.
[13:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly both
[13:01:48] <boru> Ah.
[13:01:56] <Bytram> boru: IIUC that is what we (thought) we had
[13:02:07] <boru> Hmm.
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[13:02:33] <nn> has transaction log been preserved?
[13:02:45] <boru> I asked that earlier. I don't think so.
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[13:03:52] <nn> is linode vm snapshot utilised?
[13:04:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, that's what i just restored from.
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[13:05:08] <nn> db may need clean up from that restore then.
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[13:07:00] <nn> consider cloaning snapshot into separate vm or locally for further analysis.
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[13:07:18] <nn> can be done in parallel to production restore.
[13:08:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't have space
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[13:09:36] * TheMightyBuzzard waits patiently for the ndb node to finish starting up
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[13:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/pat/impat/
[13:10:16] <SoyCow5713> moo
[13:11:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~moo
[13:11:01] <exec> (__)
[13:11:02] <exec> (oo)
[13:11:02] <exec> /------\/
[13:11:02] <exec> / | ||
[13:11:02] <exec> * /\---/\
[13:11:03] <exec> ~~ ~~
[13:11:04] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[13:11:15] <SoyCow5713> moo
[13:11:25] <SoyCow5713> ~moo
[13:11:26] <exec> (__)
[13:11:26] <exec> (oo)
[13:11:26] <exec> /------\/
[13:11:26] <exec> / | ||
[13:11:26] <exec> * /\---/\
[13:11:27] <exec> ~~ ~~
[13:11:28] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
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[13:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~cowsay hurry up, stupid db node
[13:12:02] <exec> __________________________
[13:12:02] <exec> < hurry up, stupid db node >
[13:12:02] <exec> --------------------------
[13:12:03] <exec> \ ^__^
[13:12:03] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[13:12:03] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[13:12:04] <exec> ||----w |
[13:12:05] <exec> || ||
[13:12:30] <Runaway1956> We're having site issues. Feel free to either enjoy some argument-free time or join us on IRC at irc.soylentnews.org port 6667(6697 for tls) or use the web client. 💩
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[13:13:24] <Runaway1956> I just sat my dead ass down, and the wife wants me to take trash out.
[13:13:34] <Runaway1956> Isn't that sexist, or something?
[13:13:36] <pvanhoof> I want news. I was just reading up on symptoms and signs of addiction, and I don't want to get unusual odors or body odor due to lack of personal hygiene
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[13:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, you're in arkansas, yeah? non-sexist is contraindicated.
[13:15:43] <SoyCow5713> Did she ask you nicely?
[13:16:00] <nn> meat cleaver style?
[13:16:08] <janrinok> Did she ask you or tell you?
[13:16:11] <SoyCow5713> Is she incapable?
[13:16:24] <janrinok> do you value your life?
[13:16:40] <janrinok> can you run faster than she can?
[13:17:14] <cmn32480> if he shoots her in the knee
[13:17:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, we're back up for the moment. someone who ain't me post a story bout the broke and restore.
[13:17:53] <janrinok> Hey we have a site!
[13:18:05] <cmn32480> Where?
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[13:18:14] <SoyCow5713> ~moo
[13:18:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> make sure to include the output of ~blame
[13:18:15] <exec> (__)
[13:18:15] <exec> (oo)
[13:18:15] <exec> /------\/
[13:18:15] <exec> / | ||
[13:18:15] <exec> * /\---/\
[13:18:16] <exec> ~~ ~~
[13:18:17] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[13:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[13:18:23] * exec points at Bytram
[13:18:54] <pvanhoof> That doesn't necessarily make her slower. See 28 weeks later, Resident Evil, etc
[13:19:26] <pvanhoof> ah! there is news
[13:19:56] <SemperOSS> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:19:57] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 355
[13:20:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... ima prolly have to initialize the other db node since data newer than what's in the backup got written to it.
[13:20:32] <janrinok> Bytram - are you posting a story about the downtime on the front page?
[13:22:03] <nn> include making time for post incident analysis and de-brief and discussion on how to prevent, and make recovery easier in future.
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[13:24:17] <janrinok> Bytram - I'm putting together a site update story
[13:24:33] <pvanhoof> My news addiction never got me to the point of neglecting stoves going on fire ...
[13:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nn, make recovery easier in the future: don't have a cold + sinus headache on TheMightyBuzzard
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[13:25:48] <nn> a cold in summer? ouch.
[13:25:51] <pvanhoof> ah, but I also don't have any mutuals
[13:26:02] <nn> p.s. ty for restoring site.
[13:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i get them in the summer way more often than the winter
[13:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> starting up the second db node, fingers crossed
[13:28:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> why the fuck the second db node was missing a month of data, i have no fucking idea.
[13:29:20] <nn> important point to investigate later
[13:29:25] <pvanhoof> Software bugs
[13:29:34] <pvanhoof> We make them all the times
[13:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg, bloody thing appears to be trying to sync data over to the restored node. we may be back down again shortly.
[13:31:58] <nn> got master - master enabled? if so disable and make one-way
[13:32:09] <nn> and yes, that is another restore.
[13:32:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> cluster
[13:32:53] * Bytram just had a phone call and had to step away.
[13:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> more efficient, more annoying
[13:33:20] * Bytram reloads main page... sees he is logged out.
[13:34:12] <Bytram> okay, I'm back in
[13:34:28] <Bytram> most recent story on main page:
[13:34:28] <Bytram> How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need?
[13:34:28] <Bytram> posted by Fnord666 on 2019.08.14 19:59 Printer-friendly
[13:34:28] <Bytram> from the that's-the-combination-to-my-luggage! dept.
[13:34:31] <Bytram> finis.
[13:35:10] <nn> might be more efficient, but in mysql world, way more fragile.
[13:36:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Do you know if we are back up for reals? Or should I hold off on writing a story about site down time?
[13:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, let ya know after the second node gets done starting up
[13:37:14] <Bytram> k
[13:37:55] <Bytram> I'll start writing up something offline. Pls ping me when you know more.
[13:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> node up. all looks copacetic.
[13:39:46] <Bytram> thanks!
[13:40:35] <janrinok> Bytram - I am already putting something together
[13:40:50] <Bytram> Oh, okay then. Be my guest!
[13:41:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> starting a backup that DOESN'T mean restoring a bloody vm state just in case we're not good
[13:42:05] <Runaway1956> Wait, what? Starting a bacon? I"M IN!!
[13:42:05] <Bytram> understood. Got the *files* back but not necessarily the entire state of the site
[13:42:10] <janrinok> Bytram - look in the stories queue. If put something together, please edit it if you feel necessary. The last bit MUST REMAIN!
[13:42:21] <Bytram> on my way
[13:42:27] <janrinok> s/if/I've/
[13:43:03] <SoyCow5713> ~help
[13:43:04] <Bytram> janrinok: don't see anything.
[13:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, ima go smoke and drink coffee for a while to see if anything breaks again.
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[13:43:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: many many thanks!!!
[13:43:47] <janrinok> perhaps we have other problems
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[13:44:10] <Bytram> oh
[13:44:22] <Bytram> I was looking in the subs queue not the story queue... now I see it.
[13:44:26] <Bytram> clicky
[13:44:26] <janrinok> It is showing in my stories queue a 14:00 on 15 Auf
[13:44:32] <janrinok> It is showing in my stories queue a 14:00 on 15 Aug
[13:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> paragraphs! aaaaah!
[13:44:38] <janrinok> It is the only story there today
[13:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, really, nicotine and caffeine
[13:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[13:45:05] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 725
[13:45:56] * cmn32480 thinks about calling it quits and going for a beer
[13:46:03] <janrinok> Bytram, can you see it?
[13:46:17] <Bytram> yes. see my earlier comment here:
[13:46:19] <Bytram> I was looking in the subs queue not the story queue... now I see it.
[13:46:29] <Bytram> 2 minutes ago
[13:46:39] * Bytram goes to add some paragraph elements
[13:46:49] <janrinok> I've done that...
[13:46:55] <janrinok> you need to refresh
[13:47:06] <Bytram> k
[13:47:30] <Bytram> see 'em now
[13:48:00] <janrinok> OK, I'm hands off for now. change the release time when you are happy
[13:48:38] <Bytram> got a couple changes to make SemperOSS was in earlier and I popped in early, too (though did not actually do much0
[13:48:44] <Bytram> s/0/)/
[13:48:53] <janrinok> feel free
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[13:54:54] * Bytram hits preview
[13:55:45] * Bytram hits update
[13:56:26] <Bytram> janrinok: want to take a look before I release it?
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[13:57:01] <janrinok> No go for it
[13:57:19] <Bytram> well, it is scheduled to go out in about 3-4 minutes. I'll just let it go then.
[13:57:33] <Bytram> janrinok++ Well written! Kudos!
[13:57:33] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 58
[13:57:36] <janrinok> OK - I'm putting stuff in the submissions queue
[13:58:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, dunno what kinda cold medicine i bought at that convenience store yesterday but it ain't the stay awake, clear-headed, and functional kind
[13:58:02] <Bytram> I've got a tab somewhere with what was previously in our story queue.
[13:58:14] <Bytram> meet you in #editorial
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[14:04:56] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.nydailynews.com
[14:04:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:05:22] <Runaway1956> I saw that as I was getting ready to leave last night - was wondering how it would end
[14:05:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[14:06:36] <Guest47> cheeeers
[14:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WE'RE BACK - but It Has Been a Long, Hard Road - http://sylnt.us - stuff-happens
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[14:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, them was definitely not cold drugs of the daytime variety. falling asleep in my chair even though i topped them off with some adderall.
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[14:31:55] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: 20190815_143128 UTC
[14:31:59] <Bytram> lol
[14:33:36] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: Site WAS down and was restored from most recent backups; some stories and comments were, therefore, unfortunately lost. Things *seem* to be running okay. We apologize for the loss and inconvenience.
[14:33:53] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: 20190815_143128 UTC Site WAS down and was restored from most recent backups; some stories and comments were, therefore, unfortunately lost. Things *seem* to be running okay. We apologize for the loss and inconvenience.
[14:34:19] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: UPDATE (20190815_143128 UTC) Site WAS down and was restored from most recent backups; some stories and comments were, therefore, unfortunately lost. Things *seem* to be running okay. We apologize for the loss and inconvenience.
[14:34:30] <Bytram> afk biab
[14:36:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Will Need Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts - http://sylnt.us - fair-stretch
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[15:01:45] <SoyCow7671> =submit https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com
[15:01:48] <upstart> Submitting "New Allegations: Capital One Suspect Stole From 30+ Organizations"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com:443 )
[15:02:10] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "New Allegations: Capital One Suspect Stole From 30+ Organizations" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:02:13] <SoyCow7671> =submit https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com
[15:02:16] <upstart> Submitting "Researchers: Cloud Services Compromise Mobile Apps"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com:443 )
[15:02:38] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Researchers: Cloud Services Compromise Mobile Apps" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[15:26:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Will Need Taller Fairings to Compete for U.S. Air Force Launch Contracts [Repost] - http://sylnt.us - fair-stretch
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[16:07:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Giant Penguin Fossil Found in New Zealand - http://sylnt.us - the-original-Big-Bird
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[17:26:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Giant Penguin Fossil Found in New Zealand [Repost] - http://sylnt.us - the-original-Big-Bird
[17:36:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Evidence Highlights Growing Urban Water Crisis [Repost] - http://sylnt.us - I-would-like-to-be-able-to-drink-to-that
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[19:04:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, cold medicine almost worn off. it's possible i'll be awake in an hour or so. unless i'm dreaming this.
[19:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Cerberus Android Banker Uses Pedometer to Avoid Analysis [Repost] - http://sylnt.us - stepping-up-their-game
[19:18:21] <Bytram> Whereto? https://dev.soylentnews.org
[19:18:29] <Bytram> Whereto? https://soylentnews.org
[19:18:31] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[19:18:49] <Bytram> looks like we lost dev along the way. :/
[19:19:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, it uses the same ndb as prod, just a different database thereon.
[19:19:47] <Bytram> hmmm, okaaay
[19:20:02] <Bytram> but it does not seem to be responding?
[19:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> means mysql and apache and varnish need restarted or it won't work
[19:21:08] <Bytram> Ahh, that makes sense. So, I get the concept. Much like your bounce script takes care of, just talking to a different DB?
[19:21:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ Belated thanks for restoring the SN world this AM
[19:21:38] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 356
[19:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no. more like when the backend for mysql goes down fro prod, it also goes down for dev. which freaks mysql out, which freaks apache out, which freaks varnish out. all then need restarted regardless of prod or dev. bounce only restarts varnish and apache.
[19:24:08] <Bytram> So all the dominoes fell down and need to be started up again from scratch.
[19:24:58] <Bytram> On a positive note, I stopped by Goodwill on a lark today. Had seen some ancient desktop boxes there over the years. Today they had a half dozen Dell Latitude 5400s. Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM and no hard drive or power adapter. Hey! I currently use a Latitude 6400 Core 2 duo as my main box. Could get one or two to run linux, etc.
[19:26:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. could.
[19:26:06] <Bytram> Only $25 each? Not bad! I grabbed 2 of 'em. Then, I happened to look on the other side of the shelves... and saw a half dozen Latitude 6410s with 4GB RAM and i5 procs.
[19:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, sumpin's wrong with dev on top of normal brokeness
[19:26:25] <Bytram> So I put the first two back and grabbed two of the 6410s.
[19:27:10] <Bytram> Good batteries, just need an AC adapter for each. No drive caddy, but can boot from a USB drive, so no biggee there.
[19:27:31] <Bytram> ~moosay ~blame
[19:27:39] <Bytram> ~moo ~blame
[19:27:40] <exec> (__)
[19:27:40] <exec> (oo)
[19:27:40] <exec> /------\/
[19:27:40] <exec> / | ||
[19:27:40] <exec> * /\---/\
[19:27:41] <exec> ~~ ~~
[19:27:42] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[19:27:57] <Bytram> ~moosay some text
[19:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh. broke perl code that wasn't broke last time i bounced dev and hasn't changed
[19:28:24] <Bytram> are you saying the code has not changed?
[19:28:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[19:29:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~cowsay something changed
[19:29:10] <exec> ___________________
[19:29:10] <exec> < something changed >
[19:29:10] <exec> -------------------
[19:29:10] <exec> \ ^__^
[19:29:10] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[19:29:11] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[19:29:12] <exec> ||----w |
[19:29:12] <Bytram> Which would suggest an issue with Perl release. Very Not Fun.
[19:29:13] <exec> || ||
[19:29:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't upgrade perl
[19:29:54] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Ahhh, I see what I did wrong. Thanks!
[19:30:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> no problem
[19:30:03] <Bytram> !uid
[19:30:03] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 8390, owned by Testerfws
[19:30:20] <Bytram> that's another one of the spam accounts
[19:30:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> if you're on a Unix box and using irssi, you can install install cowsay and use /exec - -o cowsay Your text here
[19:31:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> (and that gets even better if you look at the man page for cowsay.) :)
[19:31:23] <Bytram> atm I'm on a Win 7 Pro x64
[19:31:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, duh. dev needs an nginx restart
[19:32:01] <Bytram> but see above for the deal I just got. Am wondering if I should go back for another one or two for spares.
[19:32:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm in front of one of those, but on a Vultr.com CentOS Linux box.
[19:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> ___________
[19:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> < See? Fun! >
[19:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> -----------
[19:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> \ ,-^-.
[19:32:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> \ !oYo!
[19:32:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Hope your sinuses are feeling better.
[19:32:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> \ /./=\.\______
[19:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> dev lives.
[19:32:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> ## )\/\
[19:32:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ||-----w||
[19:32:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> || ||
[19:32:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> Cowth Vader
[19:33:06] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: lol!
[19:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not especially but i took some excedrin instead of random gas station cold medicine so i should at least be able to remain conscious and in less pain.
[19:33:34] <Bytram> good good.
[19:33:56] <Bytram> Just had someone recommend one of these:
[19:34:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> there's a bunch of "cowfiles" that it can use.
[19:34:12] <Bytram> #g neti pitcher
[19:34:13] <MrPlow> https://www.mayoclinic.org - "A neti pot is a container designed to rinse debris or mucus from your nasal cavity. You might use a neti pot to treat symptoms of nasal allergies, sinus problems ..."
[19:34:51] <Bytram> whereto? https://dev.soylentnews.org
[19:34:53] <upstart> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN &hearts developers
[19:35:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ And another thanks!
[19:35:20] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 357
[19:35:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'right. i'm a magnum guy.
[19:35:46] <Bytram> Ain't that some kind of varmint rifle? Or is that a .257?
[19:37:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's the revolver round that blows a way bigger hole than a .38 but shares the same brass diameter. .357 pistols can shoot .38 shells as well but not vice versa.
[19:37:46] <Bytram> nod nod thanks!
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