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[00:25:17] * NCommander has finished the first upgrade
[00:27:05] <NCommander> id=11 @192.168.174.17 (mysql-5.7.17 ndb-7.5.5)
[00:27:06] <NCommander> Cool
[00:27:09] <NCommander> That actually worked
[00:27:12] <NCommander> and relatively little blew up
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[00:51:00] <NCommander> So on news:
[00:51:15] <NCommander> helium upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04, and I got rehash's entire dependency set to compile against Apache 2.4
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[01:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CBP Reportedly Suspends Surveillance Tech Company After Cyberattack - http://sylnt.us - bad-contractor!-bad-contractor!
[01:13:28] <RandomFactor_> sounds like a fun Friday night
[03:06:47] SoyGuest68307 is now known as TheMightyBuzzard
[03:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> da hell?
[03:07:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid bouncer
[03:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, how'd you manage the dependency set? i was hitting a wall at one particular perl module that wouldn't happen.
[03:08:52] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, Mail::Sendmail has a broken test case because it tries to access a server that doesn't exist
[03:09:09] <NCommander> Other than that, build-environment worked successfully
[03:09:16] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, also, helium got upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04
[03:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, was something else but i forget what.
[03:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay
[03:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay systemd
[03:09:35] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, 14.04 is close to EOL
[03:09:37] <NCommander> So you know
[03:09:39] <NCommander> Upgrade or die
[03:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:09:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> still going to gentoo it eventually but not today
[03:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> been out of town working for over a week and about to head out on yearly summer vacation tomorrow, so i missed a lot.
[03:12:07] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, it's fine, TBH, I'm OK with staying on Ubuntu cause at least its easy to upgrade but we can talk about that later
[03:12:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I haven't actually tried to fire rehash up on 2.4 yet, just all it's dependencies seem to have installed
[03:12:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[03:12:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> stuck with old perl and latest mod_perl2?
[03:14:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> latest being over two and a half years old, of course
[03:27:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Cuts Prices of RX 5700 Navi GPUs Two Days Before Release - http://sylnt.us - we-mean-business!
[03:30:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, if you can pr your changes up we've got someone that's been looking for a working install state for a while now.
[03:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, packing then sleeping then driving for ten hours. laters again.
[03:31:25] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, no, went with 5.30
[03:37:36] <chromas> is it a lot of work to switch from mod_perl to fastcgi?
[03:40:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's pointless. a straight up perl application server would be much better since we already have nginx balancing loads.
[03:41:40] <chromas> do eeit. do eeit nowww
[03:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're going to have a webserver in front of the thing handling requests, why use a whole webserver for a single job?
[03:42:55] <chromas> You can make the load balancer do the fcgi :D
[03:43:17] <chromas> But actually, I meant go ahead and make it a perl server
[03:43:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> still run into the whole hasn't been updated in forever and a day issue with any of the other perl alternatives.
[03:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> which would be fine if webservers didn't need constant security updates. but they do.
[03:44:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, actually planning on it. soon as i have the time.
[03:44:57] <chromas> Since Ubuntu's updated, how about replacing slashd with timers and socket-activated applets?
[03:46:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> shush or i'll replace it with "chromas, run all these tasks manually every day"
[03:46:44] <chromas> Well I'd just replace me with a D server
[03:47:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, need sleeps. much driving tomorrow early early.
[03:47:44] <chromas> How about rewriting rehash in Ada?
[04:35:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Magnitude 6.4 Earthquake in Southern California Followed by Magnitude 7.1 Earthquake - http://sylnt.us - shake-rattle-and-roll
[04:52:09] <chromas> #smake usgs
[04:52:10] * MrPlow smakes usgs upside the head with a sock full of oranges
[05:38:53] <chromas> Those bastards hid their rss feed bit I found it anyway. Thanks, taxes
[05:39:11] <chromas> s/rss/atom/
[05:39:13] <exec> <chromas> Those bastards hid their atom feed bit I found it anyway. Thanks, taxes
[05:46:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Mole Mission Rues Resistanceless Regolith - http://sylnt.us - non-impacting-moler
[06:02:22] <Carny> rehash sounds like a good candidate for running under apache 1.3 on openbsd
[06:03:00] <Carny> not very many updates per year on that old codebase
[06:32:57] <chromas> I think they ported rehash to apache 2 a while back
[06:33:46] <chromas> I wish these buttpipes would make this available to all: https://earthquake.usgs.gov
[06:33:47] <upstart> ^ 03Earthquake Early Warning
[08:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Asteroid-Finding NEOCam Cancelled - http://sylnt.us - Catch^W-find-me-if-you-can
[10:27:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemical Makeup of Exoplanet Atmosphere Identified for First Time - http://sylnt.us - the-best-laid-theories-o'-science's-minions,-gang-aft-agliese
[10:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> off on vacation for a week. may be around some and taking my ssh keys this time but not a laptop, so availability of assistance will be predicated on being able to find a computer.
[10:55:15] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[12:46:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chuck E. Cheese Mouse Gets Roasted by Cryptocurrency Enthusiasts - http://sylnt.us - stop-mousing-around
[13:37:39] * FatPhil is a very stable genious! I just wrote a makefile that overwrote itself!
[14:07:55] <RandomFactor> That will make you go bind
[14:59:51] <Bytram> RandomFactor++ I had to read that a couple times to see what you did there... Kudos!
[14:59:51] <Bender> karma - randomfactor: 15
[15:00:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Enjoy your vacation -- hadn't heard from you in what seemed like forever and was just about to txt you to see if you were okay. Glad all is good.
[15:06:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Satellite Data and Stock Trading - http://sylnt.us - the-rich-get-richer
[15:17:18] <Bytram> =g USGS RSS Earthquake
[15:17:19] <upstart> https://earthquake.usgs.gov - Real-time Notifications, Feeds, and Web Services
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[17:30:59] <RandomFactor_> https://boingboing.net
[17:31:00] <upstart> ^ 03Autonomous vehicles fooled by drones that project too-quick-for-humans road-signs
[17:38:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - If You Thought Quantum Mechanics Was Weird, You Need to Check Out Entangled Time - http://sylnt.us - spoonful-of-relativity
[17:51:58] <RandomFactor_> ooh, nice add. I figured there would be an inevitable ripping because the original was old.
[17:54:19] <Bytram> RandomFactor: HTH
[17:54:25] <Bytram> you can ++ my nick, yanno
[17:54:40] <Bytram> hint hint
[17:54:42] <Bytram> ;)
[17:54:43] <RandomFactor_> wait.... the ++ thing isn't admin?
[17:54:48] <Bytram> nope
[17:54:49] <RandomFactor_> Bytram++
[17:54:49] <Bender> karma - bytram: 129
[17:54:59] <RandomFactor_> oooh, telling me this may have been a bad idea.
[17:55:02] <Bytram> !whoup RandomFactor
[17:55:02] <Bender> uppers of randomfactor are: Bytram: 14, FatPhil: 1
[17:55:10] <Bytram> !whodown RandomFactor
[17:55:10] <Bender> nobody downed randomfactor yet
[17:55:20] <RandomFactor_> Challenge Accepted
[17:56:06] * Bytram awaits the inevitable exploration of characters permitted in the "item" being incremented/decremented
[17:56:15] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:56:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4839
[17:56:21] <Bytram> !whoup coffee
[17:56:22] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: TheMightyBuzzard: 2177, crutchy: 1239, Bytram: 1194, cmn32480: 477, Blackmoore: 237, chromas: 94, paulej72: 59, Runaway1956: 55, crutchy_: 55, mrcoolbp: 31, Bytram|away: 29, mechanicjay: 27, FatPhil: 24, SemperOSS: 23, Ethanol-fueled: 23, TheMightyLaptop: 22, cmn32480|away: 22, everdred: 21, arti: 19, xhedit: 19, qkontinuum: 17, boru: 17, mattie_p: - 4 more
[17:56:23] <RandomFactor_> ++
[17:56:38] <Bytram> here's a fun one...
[17:56:52] <Bytram> foo++
[17:56:52] <Bender> karma - foo: 1
[17:56:55] <Bytram> foo--
[17:56:55] <Bender> karma - foo: 0
[17:57:00] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:57:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4840
[17:57:03] <Bytram> coffee--
[17:57:03] <Bender> karma - tea: 602
[17:57:06] <Bytram> =)
[17:57:11] <chromas> Coffee--
[17:57:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4839
[17:57:11] <RandomFactor_> ahh, it's deleting my hard spaces. That's just rude
[17:57:26] <Bytram> and, with that, time for me to take a break... have fun while I'm away
[17:57:33] <Bytram> (-)++
[17:57:33] <Bender> karma - (-): 1
[17:57:38] <Bytram> (-)++
[17:57:38] <Bender> karma - (-): 2
[17:57:43] <RandomFactor_> Hasta
[18:06:09] <RandomFactor_> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[18:06:10] <upstart> ^ 03Automated Magecart Campaign Hits Over 960 Breached Stores
[18:09:45] <RandomFactor_> https://www.theverge.com
[18:09:46] <upstart> ^ 03Professor faces 219-year prison sentence for sending missile chip tech to China
[18:11:09] <RandomFactor_> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[18:11:10] <upstart> ^ 03DoH! Secure DNS doesn't make us a villain Mozilla tells UK ISP's
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[18:38:52] <pinchy> never go ram to bytes
[18:59:33] <Bytram> .op
[18:59:33] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[18:59:58] <Bytram> was worth a try
[19:00:01] <Bytram> .deop
[19:00:01] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[19:43:48] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.reuters.com
[19:43:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:44:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[19:45:53] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.reuters.com
[19:45:53] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:46:19] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[19:51:01] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.reuters.com
[19:51:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:51:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[19:55:08] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.reuters.com
[19:55:08] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:55:33] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[19:56:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Futuristic Sounds to Make Electric Buses Safer Hit Wrong Note - http://sylnt.us - only-make-it-sound-like-a-spaceyship-if-it-flies-like-one
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[19:59:16] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.redstate.com
[19:59:17] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:59:29] <Runaway1956> GIT ON DEEZ NUTZ!!
[19:59:42] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:01:04] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[20:01:05] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:01:30] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:04:12] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[20:04:12] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:04:37] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:07:54] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[20:07:55] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:08:20] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:10:22] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[20:10:22] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:10:47] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:20:34] <Runaway1956> #submit https://arstechnica.com
[20:20:34] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:20:59] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:23:31] <Runaway1956> #submit https://arstechnica.com
[20:23:32] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:23:57] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:25:10] <pinchy> get em Runaway1956
[20:26:42] <Runaway1956> https://userinyerface.com
[20:26:42] <upstart> ^ 03User Inyerface - A worst-practice UI experiment
[20:27:04] <Runaway1956> check that site out pinchy
[20:27:19] <Bytram> Runaway1956++ Thanks for the story subs!
[20:27:19] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 14
[20:28:11] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I noticed the queue list was rather - uhhhhh - not sure of the proper word
[20:28:21] <Bytram> needing help
[20:29:28] <Carny> constipated
[20:29:47] <Runaway1956> The word I had in mind fits right in with constipated
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[20:30:13] <Bytram> well, that takes care of "shitty" and "crappy"
[20:30:19] <Bytram> ;)
[20:32:57] <Carny> do editors or some kind of staff have to do all the approvals to move subs out of the q?
[20:33:53] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.rt.com
[20:33:54] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:34:10] <Runaway1956> yes, Carny - unless we just shoot the submitter
[20:34:20] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:36:07] <Carny> so there's no voting?
[20:36:38] <Carny> so that doesn't sound like it can scale very well
[20:37:15] <Runaway1956> no voting, but I have been known to state my pre-approval of submissions here on IRC
[20:37:26] <Runaway1956> it probably has no effect, but that doesn't stop me
[20:38:38] <Runaway1956> Democrats are invading Scotland!
[20:38:49] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.ctvnews.ca
[20:38:51] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:39:16] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:41:59] <Runaway1956> #submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[20:42:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:42:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:42:56] <Runaway1956> And, to confirm something I had already figured out
[20:43:07] <Runaway1956> #submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[20:43:09] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:43:34] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:43:40] <Runaway1956> So, if you purchase your bomb-making supplies via the web, you DO NOT want the emails to go through Google.
[20:48:29] <Carny> why even trust google with any data that's not 100% encrypted?
[20:48:50] <Carny> i don't even trust them w/ email metadata
[20:49:17] <Bytram> Carny: wrt stories getting to the main page...
[20:50:19] <Bytram> the editors look at the stories that have been submitted and try to find a... selection... that fit the site. Some editing is required (Doh! That's what editors *do*)
[20:50:34] <Carny> right
[20:50:42] <Bytram> we try to run stories every hour and a half on weekdays and
[20:50:51] <Carny> i'm just saying that sounds like a scaling problem
[20:50:54] <Bytram> every 2 and a half hours on weekends / holidays
[20:51:07] <Bytram> so, we only have so many "slots" to fill
[20:51:24] <Bytram> the most common problem is a lack of good story submissions
[20:52:16] <Carny> that's not a hard problem to solve
[20:52:36] <Carny> just get 100x as many ppl contributing subs ;]
[22:18:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Antioxidants May Encourage Lung Cancer Spread Rather Than Prevent It - http://sylnt.us - unusual-results