#Soylent | Logs for 2019-07-05
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[01:15:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Strongest Earthquake in Years Rattles Southern California; Damage Reported - http://sylnt.us - shake-rattle-and-roll
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[02:10:39] <Bytram> SemperOSS: "Unfortunately in the convenience vs privacy fight, convenience wins every time" -- Count me as one of the holdouts. No Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter accounts; no voice-activated anything, no IoT devices. Not even cable TV; just a 10-year-old lappy and a pretty-much locked down cell phone for calls and tethering to get on the 'net.
[02:13:01] <chromas> I tethered once, on Sprint, when they charged extra to enable it. I was running Linux though and it just worked without enabling anything
[02:13:21] <chromas> Just plugged in the usb cable and it appeared as a network adapter
[02:25:38] <chromas> https://www.zdnet.com
[02:25:40] <upstart> ^ 03UK ISP group names Mozilla 'Internet Villain' for supporting 'DNS-over-HTTPS'
[02:25:44] <chromas> from the boohoo dept
[02:26:02] <chromas> "UK fears DoH will cripple its national web blocking scheme"
[02:41:09] <Deucalion> Not the UK populace I assure you, just the mad bastards in political power trying desparately to cling to their ways and observe all that everyone does in some hypocritical wankfest of info hoarding. End of days.
[02:57:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mad Magazine to Stop Publishing Issues with New Content this Fall - http://sylnt.us - time-to-worry?
[04:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elite: Dangerous Community Rallies Around Terminally Ill Teenager - http://sylnt.us - Enough-to-make-even-a-Thargoid-well-up
[05:46:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How PINE64 is Creating a Device-Design Community to Compete with Raspberry Pi - http://sylnt.us - this-is-a-PINE-koan
[05:54:05] <chromas> pizza++
[05:54:05] <Bender> karma - pizza: 44
[07:09:28] <FatPhil> chromas--
[07:09:28] <Bender> karma - chromas: 259
[07:09:42] <FatPhil> nope, nobody mentions pizza right now
[07:09:50] <FatPhil> FatPhil--
[07:10:02] <FatPhil> double bastard, you made me do it
[07:10:08] <chromas> chromas--
[07:10:10] <chromas> chromaS--
[07:10:10] <Bender> karma - chromas: 258
[07:10:20] <chromas> [🍕]++
[07:10:20] <Bender> karma - [🍕]: 3
[07:10:36] <FatPhil> coffee++
[07:10:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4835
[07:14:36] <chromas> Coffee--
[07:14:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4834
[07:14:38] <chromas> :D
[07:14:46] <chromas> coffee--
[07:14:46] <Bender> karma - tea: 601
[07:16:01] <FatPhil> nokia--
[07:16:01] <Bender> karma - nokia: -1
[07:16:22] <FatPhil> who on earth surface mounts their USB connectors, rather than having them through the board?
[07:16:33] <FatPhil> nokia does
[07:16:34] <FatPhil> did
[07:17:20] <chromas> Thanks, Microsoft
[07:18:03] <FatPhil> this was pre-microsoft, n900, 2007 h/w
[07:18:33] <FatPhil> having said that, all internal email was being managed by microsoft back in 2009
[07:18:48] <chromas> nokia@hotmail.com
[07:19:22] <FatPhil> kernal team, being the arrogant cunts that we were, refused to use their servers and set up our own
[07:19:52] <FatPhil> MS's servers were mangling the contents of email - wrapping log lines - and thus breaking patches
[07:20:34] <chromas> hardwrapping--
[07:20:34] <Bender> karma - hardwrapping: -1
[07:21:06] <FatPhil> microsoft--
[07:21:06] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -24
[07:21:07] <FatPhil> microsoft--
[07:21:07] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -25
[07:21:07] <FatPhil> microsoft--
[07:21:07] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -26
[07:22:31] <FatPhil> the funny thing was that nobody of any importance saw a problem with outsourcing email to microsoft.
[07:22:56] <FatPhil> That's literally (and I don't mean figuratively) like outsourcing US elections to Russia.
[07:24:14] <FatPhil> Elop--
[07:24:14] <Bender> karma - elop: -2
[07:24:22] <FatPhil> ooh, I wonder who did the previous one
[07:26:03] <chromas> Damn Russians, winning the public mind with their propaganda. We should remove the electoral college so that nothing stands in their way and Hillary wins.
[07:27:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Combine Light and Matter - http://sylnt.us - shaken-not-stirred
[07:35:23] <FatPhil> yeah, don't pretend that russia is the biggest thing standing in the way of having a democracy in the US, pretty much every mistake you can make is codified into the US system.
[08:29:27] <FatPhil> but the economy's doing great: https://www.statista.com
[08:29:28] <upstart> ^ 03Infographic: Fourth of July Food Spending Is Falling
[09:05:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Company Creates a Bluetooth Cassette Player - http://sylnt.us - next-up-will-be-a-Bluetooth-8-Track-player
[10:13:07] * FatPhil exercises his glutinous maximus
[10:14:45] <FatPhil> duck burger for lunch - omz
[10:36:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Raging TB Epidemic in Papua New Guinea Threatens to Destabilize the Entire Asia Pacific - http://sylnt.us - Health-Security
[11:12:53] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:12:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4835
[11:14:31] <Bytram> FatPhil: "ooh, I wonder who did the previous one"
[11:14:38] <Bytram> !whoup Elop
[11:14:38] <Bender> nobody upped elop yet
[11:14:42] <Bytram> !whodown Elop
[11:14:42] <Bender> downers of elop are: FatPhil: -2
[11:14:55] <Bytram> looks like it was you. QED
[11:20:44] <FatPhil> http://packages.synocommunity.com
[11:20:44] <upstart> ^ 03400 Bad Request
[11:20:52] <FatPhil> good, so it's not just picking on me
[11:21:38] <Bytram> !g site:soylentnews.org anniversary soylentnews years
[11:21:46] <Bytram> =g site:soylentnews.org anniversary soylentnews years
[11:21:46] <upstart> https://soylentnews.org - SoylentNews is... FIVE YEARS OLD!: SoylentNews Submission
[11:22:25] <Bytram> =g site:soylentnews.org incorporated
[11:22:26] <upstart> https://wiki.soylentnews.org - SoylentNews PBC Certificate of Incorporation - SoylentNews
[11:23:24] * Bytram is trying to find past stories on our site referring to the anniversary of our being incorporated
[11:24:21] * Bytram or, actually, any of our anniversary stories
[11:26:54] <Bytram> ruh roh?
[11:26:57] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[11:27:57] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[11:27:58] <upstart> ^ 03503 Service Unavailable
[11:28:00] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[11:28:27] <Bytram> So, the site is up... but no stats?
[11:33:19] * Bytram bounced the servers; let
[11:33:24] <Bytram> let's try again...
[11:33:27] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[11:34:19] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[11:39:47] <Bytram> yays!
[12:16:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "7nm" Nvidia "Ampere" GPUs Will be Made by Samsung, Not TSMC - http://sylnt.us - making-a-big-deal-about-very-little-things
[13:02:53] <SemperOSS> coffee++
[13:02:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4836
[13:05:07] <SemperOSS> Just gone through the humdrum of setting up a new domain ... added to web server, to E-mail server, to firewall, to Letsencrypt and it seems to be working. Now I just need the world's easiest, smallest, safest and most beautiful blog software. Any ideas?
[13:05:30] <SemperOSS> s/added/added it/
[13:05:32] <exec> <SemperOSS> Just gone through the humdrum of setting up a new domain ... added it to web server, to E-mail server, to firewall, to Letsencrypt and it seems to be working. Now I just need the world's easiest, smallest, safest and most beautiful blog software. Any ideas?
[13:14:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> vim + knowledge of HTML. :)
[13:14:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Probably not what you were looking for, though.
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[13:20:39] <SoyCow1944> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[13:20:40] <upstart> Submitting "UK regulator forces Amazon to put its Deliveroo plans on ice"...
[13:21:03] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "UK Regulator Forces Amazon to Put its Deliveroo Plans on Ice" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:22:15] <SoyCow1944> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[13:22:17] <upstart> Submitting "LightSail 2 sends its first signals back to Earth"...
[13:22:39] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "LightSail 2 Sends its First Signals Back to Earth" (3 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:24:51] <SemperOSS> AndyTheAbsurd: That was what I wanted to *avoid*
[13:25:37] <Bytram> SemperOSS: Well, then, that's easy! Use emacs!
[13:25:48] <SemperOSS> I'm getting fed up with hand-tweaking CSS to make it look good on some obscure platform
[13:26:05] <Bytram> let 'em suffer?
[13:26:17] <SemperOSS> #smake Bytram
[13:26:17] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a testis
[13:26:56] <Bytram> use the minimum formatting necessary and reduce the need for CSS to make it look pretty?
[13:27:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> A friend of mine pointed out https://hexo.io not too long ago, but it's NPM-based, so if you're looking for "small", Hexo probably isn't it.
[13:27:45] <upstart> ^ 03Hexo
[13:27:48] <SemperOSS> Ahm, yes, but ... I ... sort of ... want it ... to be accessible ... too
[13:28:46] <SemperOSS> I have one more gruesome requirement: No JavaScript!
[13:29:01] <Bytram> I avoid JS when I can
[13:29:18] <SemperOSS> Me too
[13:29:34] <Bytram> CSS has its place, but I try to use it sparingly unless it is for my own systems and then I know what the limitations are and try to stay within those.
[13:30:00] <Bytram> If it looks a little "wonky" on one of my systems, no biggie.
[13:30:15] <Bytram> Now, if this were for a commercial project, my thinking might be quite different.
[13:31:13] <SemperOSS> I want the blog software is, to be honest, exactly to avoid writing my *own* CSS, but still have enough to make things look pretty across most platforms
[13:31:28] <SemperOSS> /I/Why I/
[13:31:45] <SemperOSS> s/I w/Why I w/
[13:31:58] * Bytram waves back at SemperOSS
[13:32:11] <SemperOSS> Grrrrrrrr! Thanks
[13:32:35] <Bytram> j/k your regexs looked like someone waving at me, so I returned the favor!
[13:33:23] <Bytram> I have no 'sperience with any blog software. Wordpress is popular, so you have the support of the community, and the risks of vulnerable add-ons.
[13:33:29] <Bytram> Hey!
[13:33:58] <SemperOSS> Man1: "You're ugly!" Man2: "Was that a joke?" Man1: "No." Man2: "Good, I don't like jokes!"
[13:34:31] <Bytram> Submit an "Ask Soylent" story outlining what you are looking to do, what your parameters are, audience, platform, etc. and ask for what their *experience* has been.
[13:34:49] <Bytram> that sure was an ugly joke.
[13:34:51] <Bytram> ;)
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[13:35:13] <SemperOSS> Tee hee ... I mean ... Clears throat ... Ha ha
[13:35:45] <Bytram> ::chuckles::
[13:37:18] <SemperOSS> Yeah, maybe I should consider an Ask the Audience ^W Soylentils session ... Will have to get the requirement spec done properly then
[13:37:47] <Bytram> is this for personal use or business/enterprise?
[13:37:52] <SemperOSS> NCommander has set the standard
[13:38:07] <Bytram> Yeah, SN has the bestest looking themes!
[13:38:16] <Bytram> OMG_Pwnies++
[13:38:16] <Bender> karma - omg_pwnies: 1
[13:39:08] <Bytram> do a search on the topic and get an idea of what has come before... doesn't have to be THAT elaborate.
[13:39:16] <SemperOSS> It is a personal project with possible business opportunities, if anyone wants to read my rants and musings ^w^w^w wise words
[13:40:13] <SemperOSS> I had hoped I could skip the chase and go straight for the result :(
[13:40:53] <Bytram> Minimum Acceptable Deliverable
[13:41:15] <SemperOSS> MAD — a perfect acronym for all things me
[13:41:29] <Bytram> was wondering if you were going to catch that!
[13:41:40] <Bytram> I've been known to... have my moments, too.
[13:42:00] <SemperOSS> I have my moments ... this makes two in the last decade!
[13:43:30] <SemperOSS> Bytram, we seem to have the same style and panache ... it's a bit spooky sometimes ;)
[13:43:30] <Bytram> You *could* just install rehash and use *that*
[13:43:58] <Bytram> Each story can permit/deny comments.
[13:44:02] <SemperOSS> No, no, it's going to be a new site ... can't have a rehash ;)
[13:44:19] * Bytram is suddenly getting a craving for hashbrowns
[13:44:32] <SemperOSS> You are not pregnant, are you?
[13:44:48] <Bytram> Nope. No interest in pickles atm
[13:45:45] <SemperOSS> Sour enough as you are? :D
[13:46:03] <Bytram> Would not fit in with my calm and plcid disposition.
[13:46:04] <SemperOSS> Well, I'll not put you in a pickle
[13:46:10] <Bytram> s/lc/lac/
[13:46:12] <exec> <Bytram> Would not fit in with my calm and placid disposition.
[13:46:28] <Bytram> hold on; finishing writing a story.
[13:46:38] <SemperOSS> Or is it *get* you in a pickle?
[13:46:53] <SemperOSS> OK, I'll go for more caffeine
[13:46:57] <SemperOSS> Coffee++
[13:46:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4837
[13:49:39] <Bytram> good idea!
[13:49:42] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:49:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4838
[13:55:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Safer Nuclear Reactors on the Horizon - http://sylnt.us - no-reactors-for-you!
[13:57:01] <Bytram> ~time UTC
[13:57:03] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 5 July 2019, 1:57 pm
[14:07:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Miami, OH
[14:07:08] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 5 July 2019, 2:07 pm
[14:07:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Miami, FL
[14:07:18] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 5 July 2019, 2:07 pm
[14:07:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Dededo, GU
[14:07:32] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 5 July 2019, 2:07 pm
[14:07:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time EDT
[14:07:44] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 5 July 2019, 2:07 pm
[14:07:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> well. that seems broken.
[14:16:39] <Bytram> =g Does anyone really know what time it is?
[14:16:40] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? - Wikipedia
[14:16:47] <Bytram> =)
[14:16:51] <Bytram> Chicago++
[14:16:51] <Bender> karma - chicago: 1
[14:17:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> I know what time it isn't.
[14:17:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> It isn't beer o'clock. Unfortunately.
[14:17:15] <Bytram> time to go home?
[14:17:23] <Bytram> close 'nuf
[14:17:47] <Bytram> is time for me to hit the showers and get ready to go to work. Last day on before my vacation. Yay!
[14:17:51] <Bytram> ciao for now.
[14:20:30] <SemperOSS> Bytram: Have a GREAT day! Laters.
[15:21:30] <FatPhil> fuck progress!
[15:22:13] <FatPhil> gnus has stopped working, got any recommendations for a news reader? must be console-based, obvs.
[15:23:05] <FatPhil> I've used gnus for nigh on 2 decades, I have no idea what I used before that, probably strn.
[15:26:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> "progress" does always seem to make things more difficult, doesn't it?
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[15:36:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - YouTube's ‘Instructional Hacking’ Ban Threatens Computer Security Teachers - http://sylnt.us - only-hurts-the-white-hats || SoylentNews' Anniversary, Site Statistics, and What to do about Journal Spam - http://sylnt.us - Buck-Feta!
[15:41:18] <Bytram> FatPhil: I haven't tried it, but I understand that Thunderbird can do it?
[15:41:30] <Bytram> And, most likely, emacs can, too.
[15:41:52] <Bytram> wish I could stay and chat but it is finally the time where I can procrastinate no more and need to head to work.
[15:42:00] <Bytram> Have a great day everyone!
[16:12:51] <FatPhil> The emacs one is gnus, and now I've upgraded from debian 7 to devuan ascii, gnus no longer seems to work.
[16:21:27] <FatPhil> trn is impressing me already!
[16:21:39] <NCommander> SemperOSS, I'm pretty flexible on original content and thigns being posted
[16:22:01] <FatPhil> phil@zotaspaz:phil$ man trn
[16:22:13] <FatPhil> SEE ALSO newsrc(5)
[16:22:21] <FatPhil> phil@zotaspaz:phil$ man 5 newsrc
[16:22:29] <FatPhil> No manual entry for newsrc in section 5
[16:26:36] <NCommander> FatPhil, alpine works very well as a console based newsgroup reader though it's a bit of a PITA to setup
[16:31:57] <FatPhil> criminy, I used to use pine for mail way back, but migrated to mutt
[16:32:42] <FatPhil> trn is impressing me more: "Couldn't open any newsrc groups. Is your access file ok?"
[16:32:48] <FatPhil> man trn
[16:33:01] <FatPhil> /access
[16:33:06] <FatPhil> Pattern not found
[16:36:48] <FatPhil> even "configuration" isn't found in the manpage?!
[16:39:07] <FatPhil> blimey, nn doesn't look any less stupid.
[16:42:47] <FatPhil> Oh, fuck alpine - it's just, without me doing anything (apart from starting it), moved my mail!
[16:47:55] <FatPhil> in so doing, marking all my unread mail as old!??!
[17:17:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Tells FTC Repair Poses a Cyber Risk - http://sylnt.us - not-so-trusted
[17:23:36] <pinchy> if a TPM falls in the woods, does it make a reboot sound?
[17:46:33] <NCommander> FatPhil, its been awhile since I used it, so I don't remember the exact behaviors, I generally use Thunderbird these days
[17:46:50] <NCommander> pinchy, no, it just looses its encryption keys (TPMv1) or encryption seeds (TPMv2)
[18:47:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Streaming is Secretly Fixing Your Mainstream Taste in Garbage Music - http://sylnt.us - changing-your-tune
[19:06:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Elite: Dangerous" Community Rallies Around Terminally Ill Teenager - http://sylnt.us - enough-to-make-even-a-Thargoid-well-up
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[20:27:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Planetary Society Receiving Data From LightSail 2 - http://sylnt.us - next-step-in-advertising
[21:48:22] * NCommander fiddles with rehash
[21:55:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - House Lawmakers Officially Ask Facebook to Put Libra Cryptocurrency Project on Hold - http://sylnt.us - too-big-to-succeed
[22:22:15] <NCommander> .op
[22:22:15] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o NCommander] by Aphrodite
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[23:36:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Multiple Chinese Groups Share the Same RTF Weaponizer - http://sylnt.us - no-windows-file-is-safe
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