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[00:57:58] <Bytram> =g george carlin think of the average person half of are dumber than that
[00:57:59] <upstart> https://www.goodreads.com - Quote by George Carlin: “Think of how stupid the average person is ...
[00:58:10] <Bytram> #g george carlin think of the average person half of are dumber than that
[00:58:10] <MrPlow> https://www.goodreads.com - "George Carlin — 'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'"
[01:12:59] <chromas> What if he's wrong though? There could be a few incredibly stupid people pulling the average down
[01:19:41] <Bytram> poutine--
[01:19:41] <Bender> karma - poutine: -431
[01:21:14] <Bytram> given how many people there are, that would still me a truly large number of very stupid people. That does not sound like much of an improvement.
[01:48:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Americans Polled on Attitudes Toward the Space Program - http://sylnt.us - meat-brains-need-not-apply
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[03:16:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DC Comics Shuts Down "Vertigo" and Other Labels - http://sylnt.us - I-only-read-it-for-the-pictures
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[04:56:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Supreme Court Ruling Allows Property Owners to Go Directly to Federal Court Over Local Regulations - http://sylnt.us - What-about-state's-rights?
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[06:35:55] <FatPhil> chromas: technically, he's right. the "average person"'s intelligence is the median. The "average intelligence" could be interpreted as the mean, but that's not what he says.
[06:37:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alaskan Ranch Offers "Reindeer Yoga" - http://sylnt.us - not-to-be-confused-with-Reindeer-yogurt
[08:08:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Manufacturing Memory Means Scribing Silicon in a Sea of Sensors - http://sylnt.us - I-hear-what-you-did-there
[09:46:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Potent Firefox 0-Day Used to Install Undetected Backdoors on Macs - http://sylnt.us - need-more-cowbell^W-blockchain
[09:48:03] <chromas> hehe
[09:48:09] <chromas> /c0c
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[11:01:50] <SoyCow4645> Hello, the site is down.
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[11:21:53] <SoyCow1048> https://soylentnews.org is down
[11:22:17] <SoyCow1048> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[11:22:18] <upstart> ^ 03soylentnews.org down? Current problems and status. - DownFor
[11:26:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Argentina's Blackout and the Storm-Battered Future of the Grid - http://sylnt.us - need-more-redundancy
[11:30:45] <SoyCow1048> that's weird the detector support that the site is down but that sylnt.us link redirected to the main site and that works fine.
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[11:32:15] <SoyCow1048> yep, http://sylnt.us is just a 301 to https://soylentnews.org
[11:34:37] <SoyCow1048> curl -vk https://soylentnews.org
[11:34:46] <SoyCow1048> Trying 23.239.29.31... * Trying 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe98:90b... * connect to 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe98:90b port 443 failed: Connection refused * connect to 23.239.29.31 port 443 failed: Connection refused * Failed to connect to soylentnews.org port 443: Connection refused * Closing connection 0 curl: (7) Failed to connect to soylentnews.org port 443: Connection refused
[11:36:09] <SoyCow1048> must have been a fluke, down for that link now
[11:36:26] <SoyCow1048> tried a few other down detectors and they all concur
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[11:57:17] <Runaway1956_> Yes, it appears that the site is down - I'm not getting a reason
[11:58:21] <Bytram> .op
[11:58:21] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[11:58:27] <Bytram> .topic SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed
[11:58:42] <NotSanguine> Runaway1956, there seems to be some intermediate network issues
[11:59:11] <NotSanguine> Some ISPs are unable to reach SN, while others can
[11:59:49] <NotSanguine> try an 'mtr soylentnews.org' or 'traceroute soylentnews.org'
[12:00:11] <Bytram> .topic We know about issues trying to access the site. Our servers seem okay. Seems to be issues with upstream connectivity. (20190624_115949 UTC)
[12:00:11] Aphrodite changed topic of #Soylent to: We know about issues trying to access the site. Our servers seem okay. Seems to be issues with upstream connectivity. (20190624_115949 UTC)
[12:00:23] <Bytram> .topic ATTENTION: We know about issues trying to access the site. Our servers seem okay. Seems to be issues with upstream connectivity. (20190624_115949 UTC)
[12:00:23] Aphrodite changed topic of #Soylent to: ATTENTION: We know about issues trying to access the site. Our servers seem okay. Seems to be issues with upstream connectivity. (20190624_115949 UTC)
[12:15:24] <SoyCow1048> https://stats.sylnt.us states the states were created 13 October 2018 - can we trust the references to "today", "64 days ago" etc?
[12:15:25] <upstart> ^ 03#soylent @ irc.soylentnews.org stats by Deucalion
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[12:22:24] <Runaway1956_> My traceroute ends with verizon.ten12-1.br03.ash01.pccwbtn.net
[12:22:43] <Runaway1956_> That is the seventh hop
[12:23:42] <SemperOSS> I cannot traceroute to the servers, even from nets where I can connect from.
[12:24:08] <NotSanguine> SemperOSS, try mtr if you have it
[12:24:18] <SemperOSS> I have tried access from the UK, which was OK, Singapore was OK, but Denmark was not
[12:24:36] <SemperOSS> Just a mo re mtr ...
[12:24:54] <NotSanguine> My spectrum link dies in ntt's network in the Chicago area, Runaway1956_
[12:25:20] <NotSanguine> But my Megapath link goes right through to the linode VPS
[12:26:11] <Runaway1956_> I installed mtr, it gives me the same data as traceroute
[12:26:50] <Runaway1956_> but, it seems to be persistent, in that it keeps trying?
[12:27:55] <Runaway1956_> MTR looks good now - and my browser connected
[12:28:09] <Runaway1956_> mtr bad again
[12:28:12] <NotSanguine> As Mr. Zimmerman presciently noted, "Because something is happening here but you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones?" https://www.youtube.com
[12:28:13] <upstart> ^ 03Bob Dylan - Ballad of a Thin Man (Audio)
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[12:28:58] <Runaway1956_> All good now, I think it was verizon messing things up
[12:29:03] <NotSanguine> Yeah, martyb and I both were briefly able to connect 15 minutes or so ago and then broken again almost immediately, Runaway1956_
[12:29:10] <SemperOSS> I can see, when trying from Denmark, that mtr had 90% loss from quite a number of servers falling to 60%-ish over time
[12:30:24] <NotSanguine> SemperOSS: Presumably this will be resolved fairly soon. At least I hope so. What's more, I expect that Linode wasn't the only network affected, so I imagine we'll hear about it in the press
[12:31:06] <NotSanguine> I'm able do connect via spectrum now. We'll see if that holds
[12:31:32] <NotSanguine> mtr is nice and clean via Spectrum now
[12:31:48] <NotSanguine> hopefully that's the end of it. I guess we'll have to see
[12:33:42] <SemperOSS> I can now access from all the sites I have tried
[12:33:58] <Runaway1956_> wow, THREE submissions about the ras-pi 4 - we better have a front page story!
[12:35:24] <SemperOSS> Or better yet, move our infrastructure to a couple of RPi4s in somebody's cupboard
[12:36:11] <NotSanguine> Not sure if NCommander has the closet space, SemperOSS. :)
[12:36:51] <Runaway1956_> That almost invites a crude remark about who is hiding in NCommander's closet . . .
[12:36:51] <NotSanguine> Just to clarify, (EUR) Cupboard == (US) Closet
[12:37:08] <NotSanguine> It's best not to speculate, Runaway. :)
[12:37:54] <Runaway1956_> MTR is pretty cool, I learned something this morning
[12:37:57] <SemperOSS> My mail server and its backup (two locations) are RPI3s and the backup-backup is a Lin ode instance in Singapore
[12:39:41] <SemperOSS> Me too, I've not heard about mtr until today, so thank you. Was it you introducing it, NotSanguine?
[12:40:25] <Runaway1956_> yes, it was notsanguine who suggested it
[12:42:20] <Runaway1956_> Ha! I restarted MTR, and I'm not using nearly the same route now
[12:42:34] <NotSanguine> You're both welcome. mtr is superior to traceroute (obviously) as it records multiple attempts and details levels of packet loss. It's not always as functional as traceroute (as traceroiute uses UDP with ttl decrements)
[12:42:50] <NotSanguine> That's not surprising, Runaway1956_
[12:43:23] <Runaway1956_> 11 hops now, vs about 20 or 21 earlier
[12:44:01] <NotSanguine> Spectrum has also routed around the problem. Which points to an issue that,if not local to a single network provider, wasn't widespread like a BGP hijack.
[12:44:07] <SemperOSS> Somebody was probably trying to route around the problem. That should happen in real time if nobody has bombed the routing tables.
[12:44:37] <SemperOSS> Aw, you beat me to it, NotSanguine
[12:44:41] <NotSanguine> It may well have been a BGP issue (or a bad router/router interface), but apparently not something global
[12:45:20] <NotSanguine> I type fast, SemperOSS. :)
[12:45:48] <NotSanguine> BTW, martyb posted a front page article about this.
[12:45:53] <SemperOSS> So do I, but I have to think a lot (slow, slow, slow) and correct a lot (even slower)
[12:46:36] <NotSanguine> Thinking? I never do that. It hurts too much!
[12:46:59] <SemperOSS> Yeah, well, I'm pretending
[12:47:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Issues are Probably Upstream Connectivity Issues - http://sylnt.us
[12:47:35] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[12:47:36] <upstart> ^ 03Are Smart People Ruining Democracy?
[12:48:16] <NotSanguine> I'd love to say that I intercepted your IRC connection, then paraphrased you before allowing your text through. But I'm not that good.
[12:48:46] <SemperOSS> Drat, maybe I need to lower the pedestal I built for you a bit?
[12:56:09] <NotSanguine> SemperOSS: please do, if I fall off, I might hurt myself.
[13:01:44] <NotSanguine> catch you guys later.
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[13:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Set to Pre-Empt San Francisco Broadband Infrastructure Sharing - http://sylnt.us - taking-what-they're-giving-cuz-i'm-shilling-for-a-living
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[14:38:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China is Harvesting Organs from Detainees, UK Tribunal Concludes - http://sylnt.us - the-seedy-side-of-organ-harvesting
[15:16:51] <FatPhil> #submit http://www.youtube.com
[15:16:52] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:17:17] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:56:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Launched - http://sylnt.us - pie-4-u
[17:16:02] <pinchy> now with more wifi to steal data with
[17:32:48] <SemperOSS> WiFi is good, more WiFi is gooder, make the film pirating ^W ^W legal torrent downloads of TEDx presentations about smart people and democracy so much quicker! ... Or maybe not.
[17:37:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Curiosity Rover Makes Surprising Methane Discovery on Mars - http://sylnt.us - smelt-it
[19:17:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Falcon Heavy to Launch STP-2; 4-Hour Window Opens @ 2019-06-24 11:30pm EDT (2019-06-25 0330 UTC) - http://sylnt.us - STP-2...it's-the-spacer's-edge
[19:53:45] <FatPhil> people buy this shit why? https://www.youtube.com
[19:53:46] <upstart> ^ 03UPDATED: How to: Reset C by GE Light Bulbs
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[23:24:12] <Bytram> .topic SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed
[23:24:12] Aphrodite changed topic of #Soylent to: SN Main Channel | https://soylentnews.org | Some PISG charts: https://stats.sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publicly displayed
[23:57:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Contributing Low-Level Code to Coreboot UEFI BIOS Alternative - http://sylnt.us - deep-seated-insecurities-and-paranoia