#Soylent | Logs for 2019-05-30
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[00:00:01] <systemd-chromasd> Wasn't there another docker-like container thing though?
[00:00:24] <dioxide> lxc?
[00:00:46] <systemd-chromasd> That's the one I was thinking of
[00:00:53] <systemd-chromasd> Looks like there's at least 100 others too now
[00:01:09] <dioxide> yeah, but dockers pretty convenient.
[00:03:04] <dioxide> i dont run any multiuser servers, or dockers i didn't build, but its always nice to know.
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[00:43:17] <Bytram> mucous--
[00:43:17] <Bender> karma - mucous: -1
[00:44:03] <Bytram> phlegm--
[00:44:03] <Bender> karma - phlegm: -17
[00:44:21] <Bytram> allergies--
[00:44:21] <Bender> karma - allergies: -31
[00:44:34] <Bytram> and just in cse
[00:44:37] <Bytram> colds--
[00:44:37] <Bender> karma - colds: -33
[00:57:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - http://sylnt.us - Hulking-discovery
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[01:28:02] <Bytram> break time
[01:29:46] <systemd-chromasd> My favorite feature of nfs is when the host is missing, anything interacting with the mount point just freezes up
[01:30:37] <systemd-chromasd> Also the zero security
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[02:36:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Satellites Pose New Headache for Astronomers - http://sylnt.us - 12000-points-of-light
[02:39:59] <Bytram> Bedtime for Bonzo
[02:40:12] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[03:34:06] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[04:16:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Educational Success among Children Of Similar Cognitive Ability Depends On Their Background - http://sylnt.us - being-smart-and-hard-working-is-only-part-of-being-successful
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[09:08:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Super-Fast Broadband May Have Negative Side Effects for Companies - http://sylnt.us - productivity
[10:36:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 50K Servers Infected With Cryptomining Malware in Nansh0U Campaign - http://sylnt.us - Correct-Horse-Battery-Staple
[11:33:27] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:33:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4787
[11:33:31] <Bytram> phlegm--
[11:33:31] <Bender> karma - phlegm: -18
[11:33:34] <Bytram> mucous--
[11:33:34] <Bender> karma - mucous: -2
[11:33:44] <Bytram> allergies--
[11:33:44] <Bender> karma - allergies: -32
[11:33:56] <Bytram> and, for good measure:
[11:33:58] <Bytram> colds--
[11:33:58] <Bender> karma - colds: -34
[11:43:47] <Bytram> ~weather karachi
[11:43:50] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:48:03] <Bytram> break time
[11:48:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather marrakesh
[11:48:42] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:48:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather jupiter
[11:48:50] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:48:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather uranus
[11:48:57] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:49:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Saint Petersburg, Florida
[11:49:08] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:49:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 33701
[11:49:19] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:49:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather KSPG
[11:49:33] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[11:49:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, it's b0rk3n pretty g00d.
[11:51:11] <FatPhil> Fuck the bots! Reclaim your IRC!
[12:16:57] * AndyTheAbsurd has his own bot (it just doesn't run here)
[12:17:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> Although I guess I could run another copy.
[12:17:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Strange Buzzing in 9-Year-Old Boy's Ear Was Actually a Tick Embedded in His Eardrum - http://sylnt.us - I-can't-hear-you!
[12:19:49] <Bytram> =g weather KSPG
[12:20:07] <Bytram> #g weather KSPG
[12:20:08] <MrPlow> https://flightaware.com - "KSPG/SPG Weather for Albert Whitted Airport - (St Petersburg, FL)"
[12:20:26] <Bytram> #g weather Saint Petersburg, Florida
[12:20:27] <MrPlow> https://weather.com - "Saint Petersburg, FL 10 Day Weather. 9:43 pm EDT. Print. Day. Description, High / Low, Precip, Wind, Humidity. Tonight. MAY 29. Clear. --77°. 0%. SSE 6 mph ..."
[12:21:11] <Bytram> #g site:weather.com boston
[12:21:11] <MrPlow> https://weather.com - "Boston, MA 10 Day Weather. 11:01 pm EDT. Print. Day. Description, High / Low, Precip, Wind, Humidity. Tonight. MAY 29. Cloudy. --49°. 10%. S 4 mph, 84%."
[12:21:28] <Bytram> #g site:weather.com miami
[12:21:29] <MrPlow> https://weather.com - "Downtown Miami, FL 10 Day Weather. 8:32 am EDT. Print. Day. Description, High / Low, Precip, Wind, Humidity. Today. MAY 29. Mostly Sunny. 86°79°. 0%."
[12:22:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> #g site:wunderground.com Atlanta, GA
[12:22:28] <MrPlow> https://www.wunderground.com - "Elev 1057 ft, 33.75 °N, 84.39 °W. Atlanta, Georgia. 79 F Castleberry Hill Station | Report. Report Station. Thank you for reporting this station. We will review the ..."
[12:22:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's...less useful than weather.com's.
[12:23:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> Except for OpenWeather, they're all owned by IBM now.
[12:23:28] <Bytram> =g openweather
[12:23:35] <Bytram> #g openweather
[12:23:35] <MrPlow> https://openweathermap.org - "Get current weather, daily forecast for 16 days, and 3-hourly forecast 5 days for your city. Helpful stats, graphics, and this day in history charts are available for ..."
[12:23:53] <Bytram> #g openweathermap.org miami
[12:23:53] <MrPlow> https://openweathermap.org - "It is quite easy to work with Openweather API. Just sign up to get your API key and then call any weather API. And mind using API key in every API call whatever ..."
[12:24:07] <Bytram> #g openweather miami
[12:24:08] <MrPlow> https://www.accuweather.com - "Get the Miami weather forecast. Access hourly, 10 day and 15 day forecasts along with up to the minute reports and videos for Miami, FL 33128 from ..."
[12:28:22] <Bytram> https://forecast.weather.gov
[12:32:53] <Bytram> .
[12:32:54] <Bytram> https://www.weather.gov
[12:33:11] <Bytram> ~titles on
[12:57:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g weather humboldt tn
[12:57:48] <MrPlow> https://www.accuweather.com - "Get the Humboldt weather forecast. Access hourly, 10 day and 15 day forecasts along with up to the minute reports and videos for Humboldt, TN 38343 from ..."
[12:58:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh. i'll check the weather rock instead. it's more accurate.
[12:58:47] * TheMightyBuzzard looks out the window and notes that the weather rock is wet and swinging
[12:58:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be raining
[12:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:59:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4788
[13:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> well since i'm not working and it's easy as hell, i guess i could switch to the openweather api on MrPlow
[13:03:38] <Bytram> nice
[13:04:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. forgot i was mid-rewrite of fite
[13:11:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:11:16] <Bytram> hmm?
[13:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can either finish fite or abandon all those changes or deal with a pain in the ass complex merge
[13:12:10] <Bytram> don't know how deep you are into the fite changes, but ISTM that finishing those first would be best.
[13:12:51] <Bytram> or, at least, tying them off in some fashion so you can come back and finish them later?
[13:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd break fite if i don't finish them
[13:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i'll do that
[13:13:37] <Bytram> good two no
[13:14:04] <Bytram> ;)
[13:18:29] <Bytram> break time
[13:56:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 3-D Printed Artificial Corneas Similar To Human Ones - http://sylnt.us - seeing-clearly
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[18:36:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Checkers and Rally's POS Breached - http://sylnt.us - not-such-a-cheap-burger
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[19:01:32] <RandomFactor> Now i want a burger
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[19:05:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Me too... I think I'll go to Culvers instead of Checkers, though.
[19:05:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> And maybe pay cash. :)
[19:06:41] <RandomFactor> I suspect that 2015 date might be a typo they correct later. Unless that malicious actor just sat on the POS at the one location for years before expanding out
[19:11:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> Does seem like a long time to sit on CC info before using it. Those things expire! (But of course, the expiration date is encoded in the mag stripe data, so it's pretty easy to figure which are still valid and which aren't.)
[19:12:24] <RandomFactor> The exposure range isn't the card usage, it's how long that POS system was potentially grabbing CC numbers tho
[19:12:56] <RandomFactor> chances are noone would track their card being jacked back to a random drive through
[19:14:10] <RandomFactor> so if they let it, it could probably sit there grabbing cards for years
[19:22:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> "...and which left customer names, card numbers, verification codes and expiration date vulnerable"
[19:23:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Verification codes are computed based on card number, expiration date, and some other secret stuff.
[19:23:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> New card numbers will get a new verification code.
[19:23:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> So my point is: old CC numbers become less useful as times goes on.
[19:24:07] <RandomFactor> no disagreement
[19:24:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> It doesn't matter if the hacker got your CC number in 2015 if you were issued a new card, because the hacker no longer has the correct data to spoof your card.
[19:24:46] <RandomFactor> but why was one POS system exposing these in 2015 a couple of years before others
[19:25:18] <RandomFactor> just seems odd
[19:25:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Why was the POS keep verification codes at all? That's actually against the agreement that merchants have with the interbank networks (like Visa, MC, etc.).
[19:26:00] <RandomFactor> might not have
[19:26:03] <RandomFactor> just grab at sale
[19:26:10] <RandomFactor> and shoot to the bad guy
[19:26:13] * AndyTheAbsurd used to work for a payment card processing company
[19:26:43] <RandomFactor> does verification code even go into a normal cash register sale?
[19:27:18] <RandomFactor> i guess if its on the strip
[19:27:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's two verification codes: Visa calls them "CVV" and "CVV2". CVV is the one on the mag stripe, CVV2 is the one that's printed on the card next to the signature panel.
[19:28:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...and they're different values. :)
[19:28:25] <RandomFactor> so it prob was snagging the CVV since noone i've ever seen enters the CVV2 for a burger sale
[19:29:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> The POS terminals I've worked with could be configured for it - but most burger places are going to be more worried about pushing customers through than losing an extra 1.2% to the CC processing system on manually entered sales, so I'd guess you're right.
[19:30:44] <RandomFactor> dunno, checkers is quite the cheap burger pace, they could try to save a percent
[19:31:03] <RandomFactor> that would make more sense if so
[19:31:40] <RandomFactor> Either way, bad day at Checkers corporate methinks
[19:41:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Fortunately, the one Checkers I've gone to in the last ten years is not listed as affected - though a few others in my area are.
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[19:49:18] <RandomFactor> Haven't been to one in a few years, it's possible i hit one in the window but kinda doubt it
[19:49:39] <RandomFactor> not really any convenient
[20:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Experts Develop Nanolasers on Silicon - http://sylnt.us - no-word-on-making-nano-sharks
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[21:55:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Memo Reveals the Census Question Was Added to Boost White Voting Power - http://sylnt.us - Mandering-the-racist-Jerry
[21:58:18] <chromas> Bender: s/Voting /
[21:58:25] <chromas> Bender: s/Voting //
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[22:31:24] <chromas> local_news_sites_taking_away_their_rss_feed--
[22:31:24] <Bender> karma - local_news_sites_taking_away_their_rss_feed: -1
[22:34:08] <Bytram> chromas: which site was that?
[22:34:21] <chromas> https://www.oregonlive.com
[22:34:21] <upstart> ^ 03Oregon Local News, Breaking News, Sports & Weather
[22:34:32] <chromas> Also it looks like some sort of mobile hellhole
[22:34:37] <Bytram> Couldn't have been that much "work" for them, I wonder if it might have just got broke and nobody has yet noticd?
[22:34:50] <Bytram> send 'em an email and ask them to restore it?
[22:35:18] <chromas> talking_to_people--
[22:35:18] <Bender> karma - talking_to_people: -1
[22:35:57] <Bytram> well just send an e-mail of your request with a mimetype of: mime
[22:36:01] <chromas> Looks like I stopped getting updates in late January. I guess it wasn't that important to me
[22:36:52] * chromas sees 14 feeds that aren't returning things anymore
[22:37:31] <Bytram> Feed me!
[22:37:45] <Bytram> phlegm--
[22:37:45] <Bender> karma - phlegm: -19
[22:37:48] <Bytram> coughs--
[22:37:48] <Bender> karma - coughs: -2
[22:37:52] <Bytram> allergies==
[22:37:55] <Bytram> allergies--
[22:37:55] <Bender> karma - allergies: -33
[22:38:03] <Bytram> typos++ apparenetly
[22:38:03] <Bender> karma - typos: 1
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