#Soylent | Logs for 2019-05-29
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[00:55:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The All-Electric Honda e is Bringing its Side View Mirrors Inside - http://sylnt.us - seeing-what's-around-you
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[02:36:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Single Transistor Could Perform AND/OR Operations - http://sylnt.us - up-next-is-XOR
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[04:07:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Plans to Launch 'GlobalCoin' Cryptocurrency in 2020 - http://sylnt.us - FaceBank
[04:22:11] <Fnord666> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[04:22:14] <upstart> Submitting "Flipboard database hacks exposed users' account information"...
[04:22:37] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Flipboard Database Hacks Exposed Users' Account Information" -> https://soylentnews.org
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[06:35:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Beer Archaeologists are Reviving Ancient Ales - http://sylnt.us - curing-what-ales-you
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[08:56:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Compounds Found Which Illuminate and Kill Drug Resistant Gram Negative Bacteria - http://sylnt.us - there's-many-a-slip-'twixt-the-lab-and-the-lip
[09:14:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[09:14:25] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[09:14:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[09:14:43] <exec> error: description meta content not found or empty
[09:15:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> ╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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[10:03:28] <FatPhil> google chrome preventin the bot from seeing the page
[10:16:12] <boru> To be fair, that google captcha and javascript crap from them that half the web uses, is annoying as hell.
[10:16:31] <FatPhil> +1
[10:16:45] <boru> People seem to fail to realise what exactly it is promoting.
[10:17:33] <FatPhil> historically I used to just say "I don't need that page, there will be an alternative", but the cancer only ever grows.
[10:17:42] <boru> Indeed.
[10:18:19] <boru> Google are making the web very unusable, unless you opt into their pervasive tracking/monitoring crap.
[10:19:38] <boru> In some respects, I'd like to see Big {Tech,Data}™ regulated as utilities.
[10:19:54] <boru> Google, facebook, twitter, all of that lot.
[10:36:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - W3C and the WHATWG Sign an Agreement to Collaborate on a Single Version of HTML and DOM - http://sylnt.us - two-many-standards
[12:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - There’s Still Time To Prevent Biased AI From Taking Over The World - http://sylnt.us - I'm-sorry-Dave
[12:37:11] <cmn32480> coffee++\
[12:37:13] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:37:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4785
[12:48:10] <FatPhil> http://www.youtube.com
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[13:24:26] <FatPhil> https://inews.co.uk
[13:24:27] <upstart> ^ 03Boris Johnson to appear in court for 'misconduct in public office' over £350m Brexit bus claim
[13:24:47] <FatPhil> The first rule of Dunning Kruger Club is: You don't know you're in Dunning Kruger Club.
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[13:26:36] <AnonymousLuser> =submit https://phys.org
[13:26:40] <upstart> Submitting "SpaceX satellites pose new headache for astronomers"...
[13:27:02] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "SpaceX Satellites Pose New Headache for Astronomers" -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:27:15] <AnonymousLuser> =submit https://spacenews.com
[13:27:21] <upstart> Submitting "Investigation into Crew Dragon incident continues - SpaceNews.com"...
[13:27:43] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Investigation Into Crew Dragon Incident Continues - SpaceNews.com" -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:28:56] <AnonymousLuser> =submit https://www.npr.org
[13:28:58] <upstart> Submitting "'We're Not Being Paranoid': U.S. Warns Of Spy Dangers Of Chinese-Made Drones"...
[13:29:20] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "'We're Not Being Paranoid': U.S. Warns Of Spy Dangers Of Chinese-Made Drones" -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:39:07] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:39:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4786
[13:39:11] <Bytram> phlegm--
[13:39:11] <Bender> karma - phlegm: -16
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[13:46:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bill To Put Health Warnings On Soda And Sugary Drinks Advances In California - http://sylnt.us - saving-you-from-yourself
[14:03:56] <Bytram> =submit https://www.axios.com
[14:05:00] <Bytram> I have the day off, and feel like cr*p... am going back to bed.
[14:57:17] <FatPhil> you feel better than this guy tho': https://www.foxnews.com
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[15:17:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Best Buy Cancelled All Galaxy Fold Preorders - http://sylnt.us - too-good-to-be-true
[15:52:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://liliputing.com
[15:52:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:53:15] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[16:56:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Huawei Calls on U.S. to Adjust its Approach to Tackle Cybersecurity Effectively - http://sylnt.us - pot-meet-kettle
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[17:11:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> Well, shit. Stack Overflow isn't working in Pale Moon today.
[17:12:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_REQUIRED_TLS_FEATURE_MISSING)
[17:17:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> After investigation, it's not just Pale Moon: Firefox *also* fails on both Windows and Linux. (But Chrome works. Because of course it does. Fucking google.)
[17:18:00] <chromas> Same here
[17:21:06] <chromas> Crap; without Stack Overflow, how am I supposed to read a bunch of answers saying the question isn't relevant to the site and that answering requires karma due to low quality answers and spam?
[17:23:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> usually if I end up there based on a search, the answers are fairly relevant to the question I have. (It's not 100% but it's far from being complete crap.)
[17:27:26] <chromas> maybe this will help
[17:27:28] <chromas> https://stackoverflow.com
[17:27:29] <upstart> ^ 03Signature Verification Error, firefox
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[17:32:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> Setting security.ssl.enable_ocsp_must_staple in about:config to false "fixes" it.
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[18:33:26] <FatPhil> browsers break at a whim all the freaking time, and it's not as if I even have automatic updates
[18:37:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Shares "10nm" Ice Lake Processor Details - http://sylnt.us - better-late-than-never
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[19:28:42] <FatPhil> Fuck PZ Myers
[19:29:38] <FatPhil> the rest of this probably belongs on #shitlords
[19:31:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> which jackass is PZ Myers?
[19:31:36] * AndyTheAbsurd should...probably just google.
[19:33:19] <FatPhil> One of the holier-than-thou skeptics who got infected with sjw-itis, and now hates Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, etc. etc.
[19:46:43] <AzumaHazuki> Myers annoys me about some things, but he's largely correct, especially when he sticks to biology
[19:47:34] <AzumaHazuki> i've clashed with him over that "dictionary atheism" thing though. yes, Dr. Myers, atheism DOES merely mean "no belief in a God or gods." I don't know how you can read a moral system into or out of it
[19:48:21] <AzumaHazuki> he seems to think that humanism flows naturally from atheism, which is an utter non-sequitur. Yes, from someone with a humanistic bent it would, but that's not a logical necessity...
[19:54:07] <chromas> Pulling morals out of atheism sounds like something a young-earth creationist would come up with.
[19:54:19] <chromas> Perhaps PZ is a christian strawman come to life
[19:54:50] <FatPhil> I think I saw you post on his forums when I was pointed into them once and was stupid enough to clickyclicky.
[19:54:59] * chromas invites FatPhil to Atheism+
[19:55:15] <FatPhil> closedmindedblogs is a better name than freethoughtblogs.
[19:55:43] <chromas> It's ironic, like USA PATRIOT or Minstry of Truth
[19:55:49] <FatPhil> was that one of his things? sounds like "lets create a religion without a god" from what I've heard.
[19:56:05] <FatPhil> chromas++ for getting the name of the act right
[19:56:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 258
[19:56:57] <chromas> Not sure if he created it but it's the same sort of thing. Are you an atheist concerned with creationism in schools? We need to talk about heteronormativity!
[19:57:12] <FatPhil> If I had a dollar for every time I've said "it's not the 'Patriot Act' ...", I'd have to spend it all on corrective nose surgery!
[19:57:53] <chromas> If I get just one thing right, I can spout nonsense the rest of the day
[19:58:52] <chromas> But if you wanna be accurate, then you also can't call us Americans; you have to always say United States of Americans
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[20:03:09] <FatPhil> There's more than one United States in America, amigo...
[20:03:43] <chromas> United States of El Salvidor?
[20:05:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Department of Homeland Security Warns Against Using Chinese Drones - http://sylnt.us - Alarum!-Alarum!
[20:10:28] <FatPhil> Estados Unidos Mexicanos = Texas's dominance's odious (anagram)
[20:11:46] <boru> I can help with your corrective nose surgery.
[20:14:12] <FatPhil> is this using "two wrongs might make a right" logic?
[20:17:09] <FatPhil> Estados Unidos Mexicanos = Texas cuisine?! Man, so, so, odd.
[20:23:02] <boru> Not at all. Is minic a bhris béal duine a shrón.
[20:33:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...Irish?
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[20:46:08] <boru> Aye.
[20:47:24] <boru> On an unrelated note, the beer game isn't half bad down here, Phil, old boy. None of those silly pot pourri stuff you're normally into, mind you.
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[21:06:46] <FatPhil> boru: a mate from the midlands, but with Latvian roots, met me in Riga last week, and he brought a bottle of nuthin'-fancy proper english bitter for me. Cracked it open tonight - was utterly delicious. I wrote in my review "why can't I get stuff like this here!?!?!"
[21:07:19] <FatPhil> I'm really not so into the kitchen-sink beers at all, I slag them off quite frequently.
[21:09:06] <boru> Aye, English bitter is good stuff. There were a few local ones I liked in Cambridge.
[21:09:48] <boru> Beer is certainly getting a second chance from me since moving to Bavaria.
[21:14:17] <FatPhil> Oooh, Cambridge is my town for beer in the UK. Mostly out of familiarity, having spent several years there. But other places I visit can't quite compete.
[21:16:08] <FatPhil> Still not been to bavaria, it's one of the bucket list items
[21:17:19] <FatPhil> I want to go to the Heller brewery tap and have a Schlenkerla Marzen fresh from the wood, using nothing but gravity to get it into the glass..
[21:21:04] <boru> You could probably just jump on a train to here.
[21:21:14] <boru> And yeah, Cambridge has half-way decent beer game.
[21:21:26] <boru> Never really got into ale before I lived there.
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[21:32:45] <systemd-chromasd> hdd_errors++
[21:32:45] <Bender> karma - hdd_errors: 1
[21:32:48] <systemd-chromasd> no wait
[21:32:51] <systemd-chromasd> hdd_errors--
[21:32:51] <Bender> karma - hdd_errors: 0
[21:32:52] <systemd-chromasd> hdd_errors--
[21:32:52] <Bender> karma - hdd_errors: -1
[21:36:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Investigation Into Crew Dragon Incident Continues - http://sylnt.us - did-they-nickname-that-spacecraft-"Puff"?
[21:38:00] <FatPhil> I'll have to see where the cheap guys fly to, I don't think they reach all the way to Munich.
[21:42:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> Any of you folks know what the cheapest way to fly from the USA to the UK would be?
[21:43:29] <boru> Hmm. Not off the top of my head, but I can ask a few of my ex-colleagues from the US.
[21:43:54] <boru> I'd say you could get a train from Esti down to Munich.
[21:44:15] <boru> Might need to change in Berlin, though.
[21:48:54] <FatPhil> Train + Night Train, 44h, up to 400e
[21:49:14] <FatPhil> Plane would be 200e max, and 7h.
[21:49:51] <FatPhil> Bus only, 38h, 160e
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[21:58:16] <RandomFactor_> I want to know if that's a record for references. Also nice use of spoiler tag, i didn't think of that.
[21:59:17] <systemd-chromasd> We should have a version without the "spoiler" label
[21:59:23] <systemd-chromasd> or use the <details> tag
[21:59:57] <RandomFactor_> i know not of this <details> tag
[22:00:11] * RandomFactor_ wanders off toe investigate
[22:01:11] <systemd-chromasd> IE and Edge don't support it
[22:01:29] <systemd-chromasd> But it lets you have a collapsable block of stuff without js
[22:02:08] <RandomFactor_> What are these words 'IE' and 'Edge'?
[22:02:32] <systemd-chromasd> Edge is the latest Chromium-based browser
[22:02:52] <RandomFactor_> oh damn, do i need to abandon my preconceptions?
[22:03:31] <systemd-chromasd> AIEeee is Microsoft's racist attempt to pander to Central Americans
[22:03:49] <RandomFactor_> That's better
[22:04:13] <RandomFactor_> hmmm, ok, details not working with firefox, lets try waterfox
[22:04:31] <RandomFactor_> it is <details> blah blah </details> ?
[22:05:01] <RandomFactor_> at least not when i preview
[22:06:13] <RandomFactor_> waterfox no workie either
[22:06:22] <RandomFactor_> hell, trying chrome
[22:06:31] <systemd-chromasd> <details><summary>A title or something</summary>Then some details here</details>
[22:07:23] <systemd-chromasd> firefox--
[22:07:23] <Bender> karma - firefox: -24
[22:07:25] <systemd-chromasd> fpos
[22:07:28] <RandomFactor_> ahhh, figure i'm using it wrong
[22:07:40] <systemd-chromasd> can't even look at page source without reloading the page. fpos
[22:09:00] <RandomFactor_> summary shows up fine, but it isn't collapsing. Fine. I'll go look it up :-p
[22:09:44] <RandomFactor_> <details> <summary>Details</summary> Something small enough to escape casual notice. </details>
[22:11:30] <RandomFactor_> Nope, FF, Chrome, WaterFox all not showing this when i preview a story with it. If it works, it's filtered here
[22:11:49] <FatPhil> there was a patch I submitted that would let you change the "SPOILERS" title for the block
[22:12:22] <FatPhil> not sure if it worked, as I don't have a running instance to test against.
[22:12:24] <RandomFactor_> that sounds like basically the same thing
[22:12:59] <systemd-chromasd> oh those tags aren't allowed by rehash. I thought you were just trying in a local document
[22:13:55] <RandomFactor_> Was about to go test it locally to see if it was a sn thing
[22:13:58] <RandomFactor_> ok
[22:14:47] <RandomFactor_> spoiler doesn't have a <summary> like mechanism natively does it?
[22:15:07] <FatPhil> can there be more than one summary in a details? if not, why is it not an attribute of details
[22:15:26] <systemd-chromasd> Not sure but you can put most any html in it I think
[22:15:39] <FatPhil> oh, dear, did I just expect logic from a webz standardisation committee?
[22:16:04] <RandomFactor_> ...
[22:16:50] <RandomFactor_> welp, <spoiler><summary>blah</summary>moreblah</spoiler> sure didn't work
[22:17:31] <RandomFactor_> btw - Daughter #2 is not officially graduated from HS
[22:17:42] <RandomFactor_> not=now
[22:18:00] <RandomFactor_> one....more....
[22:18:01] <Bytram> oh, that's *much* better! Congratulations!
[22:18:14] <Bytram> all daughters?
[22:18:20] <RandomFactor_> yes
[22:18:26] <RandomFactor_> I won't be retiring...ever
[22:19:12] <Bytram> suggest they elope and you can save mucho diniero on weddings
[22:19:17] <Bytram> ;)
[22:19:22] <RandomFactor_> man, i hope so
[22:19:30] <Bytram> j/k... sort of
[22:20:05] <RandomFactor_> i mean, errrr, i hope they do what makes them happy and me being able to afford rice in the retirement home is not a consideration
[22:20:40] <RandomFactor_> my bug-a-salt arrived today
[22:20:54] <RandomFactor_> do i unbox it, or give it to my dad as a gift...decisions decisions
[22:21:12] <Bytram> unbox it and try it out on your dad?
[22:21:31] <RandomFactor_> i'm just gonna have to order another one
[22:21:36] * Bytram read about it recently... can't quite figure out how it works.
[22:21:56] <systemd-chromasd> Get a second one, and use the first one to open it
[22:21:57] <RandomFactor_> as the dog sticks his nose around the corner.....
[22:22:06] <Bytram> does it throw a single salt crystal at he little bugger or is it more like a shotgun with a spray of salt
[22:22:15] <RandomFactor_> shotgun
[22:22:19] <RandomFactor_> shoots a pinch
[22:22:27] <Bytram> hmmm, ok. that makes more sense
[22:22:34] <RandomFactor_> i'm gonne give it to dad, i'll get me another one
[22:22:43] <RandomFactor_> also need to give one to uncle
[22:22:52] <RandomFactor_> dammit, better order two
[22:23:19] <Bytram> lol
[22:24:27] <Bytram> brb
[22:25:33] * Bytram may need a few more boxes of tissues at this rate
[22:25:51] <RandomFactor_> Didn't know you cared for the bugs this much
[22:26:27] <Bytram> not the bug I'm fighting atm
[22:26:30] <Bytram> allergies--
[22:26:30] <Bender> karma - allergies: -30
[22:26:37] <Bytram> at least I hope that is what it is
[22:27:05] <RandomFactor_> I remember mowing entire fields of ragweed with a tractor as a kid. Never so much as sniffled
[22:27:10] <RandomFactor_> those days are gone
[22:28:17] <RandomFactor_> haha - https://gizmodo.com
[22:28:17] <Bytram> yuppers; had a large lawn at the place I grew up... never had a problem until I was at college -- seems Maple pollen is a primary candidate
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[22:28:39] <RandomFactor_> bot es muerte
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[22:30:27] <RandomFactor_> - "SPACE Breathtaking View of SpaceX Starlink Satellite ‘Train’ Triggers Wave of UFO Sightings George Dvorsky"
[22:31:51] <RandomFactor_> and if you aren't sure...it's allergies. And if you are sure...it's allergies.
[22:32:49] * Bytram sees no pics... how many domains to I have to enable to be able to see it.
[22:33:40] <RandomFactor_> i didnt' try
[22:33:53] <RandomFactor_> "I'm only there for the articles" is something to live by.
[22:33:56] <systemd-chromasd> the images probably come from kinja-img.com. Try that'n
[22:34:55] <RandomFactor_> graduate is home, being sociable parent for a bit
[22:34:56] <Bytram> https://i.kinja-img.com
[22:35:28] <Bytram> youtube-dl of that ^^^ worked like a charm =)
[22:35:38] <RandomFactor_> nice, yep totally UFOs
[22:35:58] <Bytram> hth
[22:36:04] <systemd-chromasd> You can also drag or paste the link into vlc
[22:37:00] <Bytram> good to know, but with a limited plan, is best for me to d/l and then I can replay until bored with no further "traffic"
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[22:50:01] <RandomFactor> "Neptunian Desert" - the region close to stars where no Neptune-sized planets are found.
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[23:06:58] <systemd-chromasd> &enable titles
[23:06:58] <systemd> k
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[23:08:44] <systemd-chromasd> This Foxconn nano-pc makes a pretty nice little server but I think the 80°+ fan threshold may be detrimental
[23:09:47] <Bytram> break time
[23:09:48] <Bytram> afk
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[23:15:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Unpatched Flaw Affects All Docker Versions, Exploits Ready - http://sylnt.us - what-to-do-now?
[23:15:49] <systemd> ^ 03Unpatched Flaw Affects All Docker Versions, Exploits Ready - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[23:17:25] <systemd-chromasd> Now I gotta remember how blacklisting works in my own bot
[23:53:53] <SoyGuest99412> i read over that docker bug like 3 times, and just now realized how bad it is.
[23:53:58] <SoyGuest99412> gasp.
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[23:59:20] <systemd-chromasd> That's why I used systemd-nspawn
[23:59:37] <systemd-chromasd> plus it's already installed