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[01:33:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[01:33:20] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 8028, owned by Batteriesiht
[01:40:08] <AzumaHazuki> i really wonder how many actual unique users we have
[01:40:27] <AzumaHazuki> we've got more socks than the space under a teenage boy's bed
[01:41:15] <chromas> the whole point of using socks is I don't have to hide them
[01:41:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> no we don't. we have less than a dozen.
[01:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> including their real uids
[01:42:53] <Bytram> !uid
[01:42:53] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 8028, owned by Batteriesiht
[01:43:46] <AzumaHazuki> well, <12 that you know for sure based on them being to lazy to proxy
[01:44:07] <AzumaHazuki> and let me guess, half are Ari's? >< i wish he'd stop sinking to their level
[01:44:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not a difficult pattern to build a query for
[01:44:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, no. ari's clean aside from being too lazy to log in all the time.
[01:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's the most political moderator we have on site but he don't sock puppet
[01:46:11] <AzumaHazuki> didn't he bukkake all over that one thread with top-level ACs?
[01:46:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[01:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> we should have a staff meetin about that soon, get some preliminary ideas together for a community bitchfest.
[01:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only thing that gets people as butthurt as changing moderation is changing the comments ui
[01:47:49] <AzumaHazuki> is there some way to detect if a comment is a top level post and, for example, limit a given IP/IP hash to $SMALL_NUM of those?
[01:47:53] <chromas> how many years since the last meating?
[01:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> easily
[01:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> very, very easily
[01:49:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, three i think
[01:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> we already have all that data in each $comment object
[01:51:40] <AzumaHazuki> it kind of sucks we need to think of all these corner cases :/
[01:52:02] <AzumaHazuki> the if/else logic is going to look like something out of the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch manuscript pretty soon
[01:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, Bytram loves it
[01:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh it did long ago. i can read it pretty easily though.
[01:52:53] <AzumaHazuki> Three shall be the maximum number of AC topcomments, and the number of AC topcomments shall at maximum be three. Four shall it not be, though it may be two, and may then become three
[01:53:53] <pinchy> omg its TLB and Asuzuki together at last!
[01:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> not hard to get around but a reasonable speed bump.
[01:54:33] <AzumaHazuki> come on, at least make a joke about red bean paste or go "Gesundheit" or so
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[01:54:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> top level comments have an opid of 0, all comments have an ipid and subnetid. pretty easy condition to write.
[01:55:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> how about "five is right out"
[01:55:15] <AzumaHazuki> ...ahaaa. You know, I'm not a coder but that looks like the most logical way to do it
[01:55:36] <AzumaHazuki> (well, i can code a little C, but all it does is swear. doesn't even look up the swears from a file, they're hardcoded)
[01:56:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> opid is just a db field that means original parent id, or the cid of the top level comment this is in the thread of.
[01:56:05] <chromas> C, you should be storing the swears in an xml file
[01:56:08] * Bytram was summoned
[01:56:16] <Bytram> ~blame
[01:56:18] * exec points at Bytram
[01:56:19] <AzumaHazuki> XML basically is swears
[01:56:34] <AzumaHazuki> ...Perl is bleeped-out swears
[01:56:35] <chromas> nested swearing
[01:56:40] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: ^^^ that being there is for a very Very VERY good reason
[01:56:45] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[01:56:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it can certainly look like it, yep
[01:57:08] * Bytram scratches his... itch
[01:57:15] <Bytram> linenoise
[01:57:41] <AzumaHazuki> i wonder if people ever play, like, perl russian roulette with /dev/random. like, dd if=/dev/urandom of=somefile.pl count=36 && perl ./somefile.pl
[01:57:44] <AzumaHazuki> and see if it runs
[01:57:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes sense to me though. aside from a few bits of idiocy from the original coders, it might as well be english.
[01:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> "#!/usr/bin/perl" might be too big of a salt
[01:59:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> now if you run it from perl like you said above, that's another story
[01:59:29] <AzumaHazuki> welp...will likely be in erie in 3 months or so :| rejected from the UW lab job because a reference dragged his ass and didn't get it in in time
[01:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> PA or EU?
[01:59:46] <AzumaHazuki> PA
[01:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bummer. the other's prettier.
[01:59:57] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: sorry to hear that.
[02:00:27] <AzumaHazuki> i think i'm going to disappear into Erie for a while. will take whatever work i find, care for my friend, and just...hopefully ride out the upcoming bullshit
[02:00:36] <AzumaHazuki> i need some time to just...exist, i think. too much damage.
[02:01:06] <AzumaHazuki> i actually felt the moment when my last single solitary fuck was given
[02:01:09] <Bytram> We are not called "Human Doings", we are "Human Beings"
[02:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the other hand, you'll be able to skip over and run up the rocky stairs and bounce around with your fists up in the air
[02:02:02] <AzumaHazuki> just got to hang on for three months. i'll probably spend them at the chinese food place, bringing in business from all the Spanish-speakers 'cause no one else there speaks it
[02:02:57] <AzumaHazuki> if someone told me i'd be using more spanish in a chinese restaurant in wisconsin than back in the bronx i'd have laughed at them...
[02:03:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, our chinese places are mostly family owned but it ain't remotely odd to see a blond chick or a black guy waiting tables.
[02:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> great american meltin pot, yo. bring some good culture here and we embrace the shit out of it. specially if it tastes good.
[02:04:03] <AzumaHazuki> might get two jobs part time. interviewed at the local pet store too, right across the way.
[02:04:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> erg. i love critters but i'd be taking ten zertec a day.
[02:04:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Obviously, you just need to only work at night!
[02:04:59] <AzumaHazuki> they want me to wash the dogs :| for $9 an hour, just like the register. i think i'd rather just stock and cashier
[02:05:08] <RandomFactor> /agree Pets listen to me less than children do.
[02:05:23] <chromas> I'd rather wash the dogs than talk to the people
[02:05:23] <AzumaHazuki> so many trash people with their giant-ass pitbulls around here ugh
[02:05:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd rather wash the dogs. people annoy me.
[02:05:39] <RandomFactor> GSD FTw
[02:06:14] <RandomFactor> although the health problems are the pits
[02:06:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice
[02:07:00] <AzumaHazuki> i wish it was all cats ;-; they have them up for adoption now and then but Madison is full of dogs and dog people, blehhh
[02:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like pits myself. extremely loyal and protective dogs without being overly aggressive. unless the owner is a shithead.
[02:07:35] <RandomFactor> Dogs and Cats can live together. It makes for periodic hilarity.
[02:08:29] <AzumaHazuki> i am so not a pit fan. the ones out here are heavier than i am and eyeball me like i'm a giant bag of kibble
[02:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm a pussy man myself. neighbor has 20 of them. she's not a cat lady though. she's wicked active in the community and rarely home. she just can't say no to a stray or a litter of kittens.
[02:09:05] <AzumaHazuki> a friend's ghetto-ass baby daddy has this 150-pounder named Rocko who thinks he's still a puppy. fucker's pawsteps are louder than my boots
[02:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, saw a lady walking hers by the lake while i was fishing. one of them wanted to go swimming. she didn't. she did not win that debate.
[02:09:27] <chromas> we just washed our cat today
[02:09:32] <chromas> fleas--
[02:09:32] <Bender> karma - fleas: -3
[02:09:39] <AzumaHazuki> the only way i'm shampooing THAT giant hunk of dogmeat is with a sandblaster
[02:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, cat washing ain't that difficult, just painful on entry and exit.
[02:10:07] <RandomFactor> Never been into Pits, however knew a couple, and they were fantastic. One guy had a super thick knotted rope hanging from an oak. The dog would jump and grab the rope and his owner would swing him back and forth.
[02:10:11] <chromas> cat's too wimpy to scratch his way out of the bath
[02:10:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> RandomFactor, TR's dad used to swing his in a circle around his head.
[02:10:36] <chromas> he's ragdoll or something. likes to lay on people's shoulders like a scaf
[02:10:44] <RandomFactor> he would also do frikkin backflips if you tossed the ball over his head just right
[02:10:44] <AzumaHazuki> cute :3
[02:11:00] <chromas> (scarf)
[02:11:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> about half of neighbor lady's herd make it over here for their daily appreciation while i'm out smoking every morning
[02:11:53] <RandomFactor> but i've always been a fan of German Shepherds
[02:12:30] <AzumaHazuki> a more rural place may actually be my speed...it may be nice to go somewhere where people talk carpentry and herding
[02:12:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer cats myself. i don't want a pet being subservient except on matters of not shitting in the floor.
[02:13:04] <AzumaHazuki> i'm hoping to pick up some larger-scale stuff, like framing. bedframe and desk are nice but not houses
[02:13:16] <Bytram> RandomFactor: Not to interrupt, but wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for your story submissions!
[02:13:30] <RandomFactor> Cats are lower maintenance, once you get their diet sorted
[02:13:33] <Bytram> You own a dog, but you feed a cat.
[02:13:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> bedframe and desks are furniture. entirely different animal than framing walls. much harder.
[02:14:01] <RandomFactor> and provide appropriate scratching sacrifices
[02:14:16] <AzumaHazuki> furniture is harder?
[02:14:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> than making a wall? absolutely.
[02:14:44] <AzumaHazuki> this stuff i made is about as crude as it gets. no funny joints, just got everything cut to size and then screwed it all together
[02:14:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> walls are, for the most part, big rectangles with a stud every 16"
[02:14:54] <Bytram> 18" on center. Next. Next. Next.
[02:15:00] <chromas> you need oak or other hard woods to make a chair. for a house frame you just need balsa or something
[02:15:06] <Bytram> or 16", I guess.
[02:15:36] <AzumaHazuki> there's a certain order that has to go in though, right? lay out top and bottom plates, square them, stud-stud-stud, pull it upright, attach top plate...
[02:15:37] <Bytram> Pine works for furniture, too. Just for not as long.
[02:15:58] <RandomFactor> bytram: sadly i couldn't figure out how to integrate Ice Hockey Rinks into a Data Privacy law post
[02:16:08] <Bytram> compared to making furniture? It's much simpler
[02:16:16] <chromas> RandomFactor: you can use the dept field
[02:16:17] <Bytram> don't you be no taking a look at my pucks
[02:16:30] <AzumaHazuki> i've been watching a LOT of tiny-house and shed builds on Youtube. It looks stupidly easy to do standard floor and wall framing
[02:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, yeah, but you're always making essentially the same thing. a rectangle.
[02:16:48] <AzumaHazuki> roofing, i need practice with. cutting the rafters with the "birdmouth" and all
[02:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> doors and windows are about the only complexity you ever see.
[02:17:13] <Bytram> 3:4:5 will take you far
[02:17:21] * AzumaHazuki has a long-term goal of making herself a tiny little 8'x12' somewhere...
[02:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> roofing ain't bad if you're in your 20s and don't burn easily
[02:17:55] <AzumaHazuki> eh...i'm 33 but people keep asking me what i'm studying in college, lol
[02:17:59] <Bytram> a tiny little 8'x12' as opposed to great bi 8'x12' ?? ;)
[02:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> if the roof's not complex, it's something most anyone could do
[02:18:28] <RandomFactor> roof.... must clean gutters.
[02:18:29] <AzumaHazuki> the hardest part, for me, might be getting the damn ground level enough to make a wooden "box" sort of foundation
[02:18:31] <Bytram> just need a... pitch... pipe?
[02:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> well mostly i mean it'll wear your ass out if you're not as young as you used to be or haven't been doing it forever
[02:18:47] <RandomFactor> interesting slant
[02:19:00] <Bytram> tilting at roof nails?
[02:19:11] <AzumaHazuki> brick on a concrete pad sounds nice, but probably expensive as hell
[02:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> shingles are heavy after about four hours of carrying them up a ladder. after eight you really, really want a cold beer.
[02:19:19] <RandomFactor> venting your frustrations?
[02:19:35] <Bytram> RandomFactor: s/^/in/
[02:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting them on's easy as pie though. the nails are tap-slam-done
[02:20:48] <AzumaHazuki> ...is it weird my first thought is to use screws rather than nails? like "what if i have to dismantle it and move?"
[02:21:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> shingles rip easily.
[02:21:05] <RandomFactor> Reduces resale value if you do
[02:21:16] <fyngyrz> plywood base, overlapped sheet metal sections. Easy peasy, done in hours, totqally hail and etc resistent
[02:21:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you mean take the house apart.
[02:21:27] <AzumaHazuki> maybe i just don't believe, deep down, i'll ever have stability...
[02:21:28] <fyngyrz> (for roofing)
[02:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> use screws anyway. less work and they hold better.
[02:21:52] <Bytram> fyngyrz: and the sound of anything hitting your roof will sound like an arcade on steroids
[02:21:54] <RandomFactor> pegs. Oldies but goodies
[02:21:57] <fyngyrz> built my music studio that way
[02:22:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> they make framing screws with torx heads. they rock my stripy socks
[02:22:05] <Bytram> RandomFactor: that was a pretty good song
[02:22:09] <Bytram> =g song peg
[02:22:10] <upstart> https://www.youtube.com - Steely Dan - Peg - YouTube
[02:22:15] <fyngyrz> no, only if you don't insulate your roof. Out here, we _insulate_
[02:22:41] <fyngyrz> the entire church here is sheet metal - it's quiet except when the hail gets to 1"
[02:22:45] <Bytram> and it doesnt sond like a barrel of marbles hitting your roof?
[02:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> remember though. if and when you go to hammer a nail. do not pinch it between thumb and forefinger. that's asking for a crushed thumb.
[02:23:03] <fyngyrz> nope, dead quiet
[02:23:12] <fyngyrz> barring really good sized hail
[02:23:14] <RandomFactor> bytram: tapping along
[02:23:17] <Bytram> must be some *thick* insulation
[02:23:19] <fyngyrz> but at that point, everything is banging anyway
[02:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hold it between your index and middle finger with the muscly sides facing the nail head
[02:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way if you hit your finger it hits the padded side and not the very ends.
[02:23:50] <Bytram> so if you slip, you hit the... mushy part of the finger tip?
[02:23:54] <fyngyrz> it's 12". followed by a peak of 16 feet, followed by another 12"
[02:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> one knuckle back
[02:24:13] <fyngyrz> the studio is the same way, but the peak is about 6 feet only
[02:24:21] <Bytram> depends on the shape of your fingers, I suspect
[02:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> finger tips hurt. the middle joint doesn't as much.
[02:24:45] <Bytram> the tip of my middle finger is one whole segment longer than either of the fingers on either side.
[02:24:49] <fyngyrz> also quiet. Needs to be, of course
[02:24:54] <Bytram> quite
[02:25:17] <fyngyrz> I just use screws. :)
[02:25:22] <fyngyrz> starheads FTW
[02:25:24] <RandomFactor> Yeah, the human body tends to develop what is used more
[02:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, you gotta be hella good at flipping people the bird
[02:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> fyngyrz, truth
[02:25:47] <AzumaHazuki> god, i am such a lesbian stereotype, being all into this
[02:25:57] * TheMightyBuzzard shrugs
[02:25:57] <fyngyrz> I type, play guitar, molest my lady... can't be hitting the fingers with hammers
[02:25:58] <AzumaHazuki> may come in handy later though
[02:26:04] <Bytram> well, it IS a friday night and my neighbors have been know to party... think I'll see if I can get to sleep before they start and maybe I'll be able to sleep through it.
[02:26:20] <fyngyrz> sleep tight
[02:26:31] <Bytram> Didn't have much to do with 'em. I got born and they came out like that.
[02:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> it does. small projects don't require a contractor. large projects you take on and really wish you'd called a contractor because you forget how much fucking work it is.
[02:26:38] <Bytram> yanno?
[02:26:51] <Bytram> mare see!
[02:27:08] <fyngyrz> you're stalll'ian
[02:27:29] <fyngyrz> gonna put a paddock on your door
[02:27:33] <RandomFactor> my neighbors had cars lined up and down the street. Hard to complain about a party with five year olds however. Its the teeneger up the street i have to resist strangling.
[02:27:45] <fyngyrz> I've gone barny
[02:27:57] <RandomFactor> can't take that much saccharin
[02:28:20] <fyngyrz> [poof]
[02:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> and, just so you can learn from my experience, if you ever think "i can install a french drain. there are plenty of youtube videos and i know all about plumbing anyway." start drinking alcohol and don't stop until you forget that you even wanted a french drain.
[02:29:08] <RandomFactor> barny = poof? I was thinking of purple dinosaurs
[02:29:17] <Bytram> is it too late to call in a cointractor?
[02:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. we can have it done soon enough.
[02:30:06] <RandomFactor> depends how annoyed you are at the mark, my uncle always used to say that...errr, wait, construction contractor...my bad
[02:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish we could find some day labor though. there's a shitload of rock to haul.
[02:30:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are NO out of work mexicans in TN. there is nothing but cars in the home depot parking lot.
[02:30:44] <Bytram> now if you could just shit bricks...
[02:31:03] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[02:31:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> found out why too
[02:31:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> they all have good jobs.
[02:31:30] <Bytram> and what was that creature we did a story on the shit block-shaped turds?
[02:32:05] <AzumaHazuki> some rodenty thing iirc
[02:32:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:32:22] * AzumaHazuki wonders if it hums the tetris song to itself while it drops a deuce
[02:32:25] <Bytram> =g cube-shaped turd
[02:32:26] <upstart> https://www.nationalgeographic.com - Why is wombat poop cube-shaped?
[02:32:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> "do you work" is a legitimate question in the south. but not so much among folks who moved to a whole nother country to make some money.
[02:32:36] <Bytram> On the first try!!
[02:32:54] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[02:33:06] <RandomFactor> hasta
[02:33:25] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[02:33:42] <RandomFactor> https://soylentnews.org
[02:33:43] <upstart> ^ 03Scientists Explain How Wombats Drop Cubed Poop - SoylentNews
[02:34:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'kinda fucked up. immigrants do way better around here than natives on average. too many people who just will not get or hold a job.
[02:34:53] <RandomFactor> Hardship provides a certain perspective
[02:35:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw. it's that they can get away with not working. like my neighbor had an asthma attack every friday (payday was thursday) until he got tired of working entirely and frauded his way onto disability.
[02:36:30] <AzumaHazuki> hopefully erie has more opportunity...i'm beginning to think cities aren't where it's at anymore. certainly not if poor
[02:36:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> friendly and helpful neighbor but i wouldn't want to employ him
[02:36:35] * RandomFactor shrugs
[02:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, they're not. it costs way less to live in small to medium towns. even considering gas to drive to the big city when you want something there.
[02:37:23] <AzumaHazuki> i can't drive. grew up poor in NYC. am hoping to learn out there
[02:37:36] <AzumaHazuki> it seems Madison is throwing me away, but you know, i never really felt at home here
[02:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> get a motorcycle. perfect excuse to wear leather.
[02:37:58] <AzumaHazuki> i am SO not a leather girl. lace all the way
[02:38:28] <RandomFactor> difference between NYC and the South. Here you have big wide shoulders to pull off on if there's a problem. NYC they have foot high curbs to bounce you back into play.
[02:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a bike then. lace don't prevent road rash very well. or stop bugs.
[02:39:32] <AzumaHazuki> maybe it's time for a change there too then. i don't know. the future is utterly hazy right now,and it's kind of a relief
[02:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> small toyota. yaris maybe. mine's got over 300k miles on it and i've not done much but change the oil and add gas.
[02:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> if ford or gm made a car that'd last like that, i'd get my patriotism on but they make shit by comparison.
[02:41:14] <RandomFactor> Every poke your nose over to Staten Island?
[02:41:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. past my bedtime. see yalls later.
[02:43:52] <AzumaHazuki> staten island, ugh. SI is what Jersey Shore people look down on
[02:45:30] <RandomFactor> Well, it IS crazy huge garbage dump in part
[02:48:11] <RandomFactor> Hello https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[02:48:12] <upstart> ^ 03Pioneering gene therapy could repair deadly heart attack damage
[02:48:47] <AzumaHazuki> that one interests me greatly. there is, um, a catch though, if you read the article..
[02:49:09] <RandomFactor> yep. But every guy that reads this is going to wonder the same thing about other applications.
[02:52:14] <RandomFactor> not on my side, but heart disease took out my father in law a few years back
[02:58:25] <RandomFactor> how come there are 8 times as many heart attacks in US as UK?
[02:59:17] <AzumaHazuki> shitty diet, shitty healthcare, shitty work culture...
[02:59:39] <AzumaHazuki> the US is an awful place by civilized standards
[02:59:56] <RandomFactor> work culture i'm good with. UK drinks more tho
[03:00:15] <RandomFactor> more obese generally too
[03:01:07] <RandomFactor> same smoking prevailance
[03:04:05] <chromas> maybe we don't drink enough then
[03:04:34] <AzumaHazuki> if i lived in london i'd be getting shitfaced too. how depressing
[03:04:51] <RandomFactor> Ahhh, but that's it - we drink coffee, Brits drink Tea. That's gotta be it. I'm always hearing how good for you Tea is
[03:05:08] <RandomFactor> :-p
[03:05:49] <AzumaHazuki> earl grey has done wonders for patrick stewart
[03:06:01] <AzumaHazuki> i do feel a lot better on tea than coffee, if it comes to that...
[03:06:59] <RandomFactor> Heh, you will not get closer than six inches in the presence of the Patrick Stewart. Thou shalt not physically contact the Patrick Stewart while taking your photograph.
[03:07:40] <RandomFactor> Give me smaller stars anyday.
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[04:12:42] <mrpg> https://gizmodo.com
[04:12:44] <upstart> ^ 03Congratulations to Uber, the Worst Performing IPO in U.S. Stock Market History
[04:13:53] <AzumaHazuki> couldn't happen to a nicer CEO
[04:14:05] <AzumaHazuki> i hope he ends up homeless and poor, driving an Uber for a living
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[05:58:18] <AzumaHazuki> late stage capitalism, ladies and gents
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[10:46:32] <FatPhil> travel-related websites are the shittiest websites in the whole fucking world.
[10:52:38] <FatPhil> Tallinn - Arlanda - Warsaw - Kaunas, 17 hours, 800e, is not a good way to do the trip, when a bus can do it in 9.5 hours and for 30e.
[10:53:46] <chromas> What if you want to see the sights and have too much money?
[10:54:28] <FatPhil> arlanda's in the middle of nowhere, there is literally nothing to see apart from the airport, and it's not even that pretty architecture.
[10:55:32] <FatPhil> warsaw was bombed to fuck during ww2, and as stalinist as hell itself, so whilst I might go there fore a beer or two hundred, I'll give it a miss.
[10:58:01] <FatPhil> the reason I was considering a flight is because I want to see the sights *after* kaunas. WAs thinking of Pakruojis and Panevezys on the way back.
[11:01:14] <FatPhil> We need to be in Kaunas on Sat/Sun, and want to be in Riga the next Friday, so are thinking of just touring .lt and maybe .lv between the two.
[11:01:30] <FatPhil> Alas, neither of us drive, so we're restricted to public transport.
[11:06:37] <FatPhil> https://www.nytimes.com
[11:06:38] <upstart> ^ 03How the U.K. Won’t Keep Porn Away From Teens
[11:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> "neither of us drive" see, that's just a foreign concept to me. you're foreign though, so that's okay.
[11:11:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:11:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4761
[11:19:08] <FatPhil> Did I mention the fact that public transport in town is free here?
[11:20:24] <FatPhil> OK, my non-driving is a choice, but the g/f's isn't. Don't you have blind people in the US any more? Or do you let blind people drive?
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[12:20:22] <fyngyrz> TheMightyBuzzard, question: Say user has soylent user ID "X", and that they are logged in as "X". Say also that I have user "X" on my foes list, and automodded to -6.
[12:21:33] <fyngyrz> Will that user, if when they post, they click the "Post Anonymously" checkbox, be automodded down by my foes -6 setting?
[12:22:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope
[12:22:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> the comment gets posted as AC's uid
[12:23:19] <fyngyrz> right, but will my automod affect them, sinc4e the system knows they're "X"?
[12:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> it doesn't know they're X
[12:23:33] <fyngyrz> too bad
[12:23:38] <fyngyrz> oh well
[12:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it does when they post but not when you render comments and that's when your modifier gets applied
[12:24:33] <fyngyrz> okay. I guess the only solution, really, is to automod the anons too
[12:25:01] <fyngyrz> which sucks
[12:25:04] <fyngyrz> :)
[12:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> for the moment. i kinda like two week or so foe-ing of ipids though. gives you time to get less annoyed but doesn't keep the ip silenced forever
[12:26:37] <fyngyrz> I'm trying to figure out the way to be least annoyed, all the time, as opposed to intellectually stimulated and having my ideas legitimatly challenged
[12:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> go fishing. being near a body of water regularly is shown to have a significant effect on mental health.
[12:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i rarely get riled up
[12:27:30] <fyngyrz> RDT's the poster child for this, and he kindly uses multiple sockpuppets *and* anon posts to spread his spewage
[12:28:12] <fyngyrz> ah. Well, fishing's not for me. Setting hooks in living things faces... really not for me. I get no pleasure from it.
[12:28:37] <fyngyrz> other than that, I am near a body of water. A pretty big one, in fact, and I go rock collecting out there. :)
[12:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing's a lot more humane than domesticating animals. a lot of their meat spoils on supermarket shelves. anything i catch i eat.
[12:36:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it gives them a fighting chance, unlike a cattle chute at a slaughter house.
[12:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i need me some nicotine. smoke break time.
[12:37:17] <fyngyrz> I'm not critisizing YOUR fishing
[12:37:28] <fyngyrz> it's jsut not for me
[12:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, just giving you the point of view of the fisherman
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[13:12:44] * FatPhil ponders his wounds and how much fun he had last night.
[13:13:02] <FatPhil> that was one angry rescue cat...
[13:15:39] <janrinok> lol - who won?
[13:41:29] <FatPhil> she thinks she did, and I think she's right.
[13:42:24] <FatPhil> i wasn't even play fighting her, she was just slightly psycho.
[13:56:04] <janrinok> I think that is the way cats show their affection - they rip the skin from your hands and, if you are still not convinced that they love you, they start on your face
[14:16:54] <Runaway1956_> #submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[14:16:55] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:17:20] <Runaway1956_> I thought that was EU mas anal retention
[14:17:21] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:19:43] <Runaway1956_> !weather
[14:19:51] <Runaway1956_> #weather
[14:19:51] <MrPlow> No location found for Runaway1956_
[14:20:06] <Runaway1956_> #weather Dallas
[14:20:06] <MrPlow> got http response code 401
[14:20:30] <Runaway1956_> Phhht - it's supposed to rain for the next six months I think
[14:24:05] <Runaway1956_> This site can’t be reached www.bbc.co.uk unexpectedly closed the connection.
[14:24:16] <Runaway1956_> Is it the start of WWIII?
[14:32:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Runaway1956_: works for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:41:24] <Runaway1956_> Thanks Andy
[14:42:40] <Runaway1956_> For some wierd reason, the browser is being directed to the RSS feed, instead of the BBC page
[14:44:14] <Runaway1956_> #submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[14:44:15] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:44:40] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:36] <Runaway1956_> #submit https://www.euronews.com
[14:47:38] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:48:03] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:48:54] <Runaway1956_> Time for a nap I think - maybe I find more potential stories later
[15:12:57] <pinchy> a nap, then guns a blazin in the comments section
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[16:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, i like the way you think.
[16:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[16:03:40] <Bender> karma - naps: 97
[16:16:45] <FatPhil> naps is Estonian for 'shot', from German schnapps
[16:16:52] <FatPhil> naps++ ;-)
[16:16:52] <Bender> karma - naps: 98
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[16:43:45] <FatPhil> ~gday AzumaHazuki
[16:43:48] * exec angrily drops a pipe of 💩 on AzumaHazuki
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[16:45:03] <AzumaHazuki> a square pipe?
[17:02:25] <RandomFactor> what? No it was square poop. We talked about this yesterday.
[17:02:51] <AzumaHazuki> how did you get cubical poo in a round pipe?
[17:03:10] <RandomFactor> much less smoke it
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[18:04:28] <AzumaHazuki> found frozen drumsticks for 88 cents a pound in ~2lb packages :) i'm set for broth and drumstick meat for well over a week. plus got some cheap hamhocks, so supper will be crockput split pea soup
[18:06:30] <chromas> Better...stock up
[18:07:30] <AzumaHazuki> cat sadtrombone.wav > /dev/dsp
[18:21:18] <FatPhil> darn, I've not eaten yet this evening - pea soup sounds very tempting.
[18:21:34] <FatPhil> Alas, the pub I'm now off to doesn't do any food at all.
[18:21:34] <chromas> I have Alsa
[18:22:07] <chromas> Bring Your Own Soup
[18:22:20] <AzumaHazuki> i had a huge lunch yesterday so i just came off a 24 hour fast. need to eat less now that i'm not as active
[18:23:12] <FatPhil> I could bring blocks of cheeses and salamis, and pots of olives and garlics, I guess, and just graze whilst sitting in the pub. That's what we were planning to do about now anyway.
[18:23:40] <FatPhil> But just got an SMS from a visiting Danish journalist, so off to meet him again.
[18:23:44] <RandomFactor> Think i'll share a can of vienna sausages with the dog.
[18:24:10] <FatPhil> I think I'll share a vienna lager with the journalist!
[18:24:25] * RandomFactor admits crushing defeat
[18:25:43] <FatPhil> He is a beer journalist, and we've been trying to show him one beer from all of the good .ee breweries. One notable gap is a brewery that does a rather good vienna, so it's a nice coincidence you mentioned that - thanks!
[18:26:18] <AzumaHazuki> wienerbier :v
[18:26:24] <FatPhil> the important question is - where are my goddamn underpants!?!?
[18:26:25] <RandomFactor> Synchronicity.
[18:27:49] <RandomFactor> You have a dog? Mine thinks such things are gold.
[18:29:12] <chromas> they smell like summer sausage
[18:29:14] <FatPhil> We only have one pet in the household, a rather badly behaved primate that my g/f keeps.
[18:29:55] <chromas> Careful calling it a primate. Met police will investigate you
[18:31:44] <FatPhil> Only if it files a complaint, but I probably won't.
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[19:24:13] <RandomFactor> That's like fun, only completely different.
[19:24:31] <RandomFactor> Maybe going several years between hedge trimmings isn't optimal.
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[20:49:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> two pounds for a week, yeesh. i'm going to have to use three pounds of hamburger just in tomorrow's soup.
[20:52:56] <RandomFactor> Chili
[20:53:50] <RandomFactor> not soup
[20:55:03] <Runaway1956_> Chili is for Texans and Mexicans, Okies get soup, the rest of you get gruel
[20:55:23] <RandomFactor> Raised in San Antonio :-)
[21:00:49] <RandomFactor> So yes, anything vaguely protien like can go on a taco
[21:02:04] <Runaway1956_> One thing I've never figured out is, why do they ruin good tortillas by making them hard and brittle?
[21:02:15] <Runaway1956_> Soft tacos FTW
[21:02:29] <RandomFactor> ^--- this
[21:02:54] <RandomFactor> It's a mystery. Flour Tortillas >> Corn/Hard
[21:07:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> RandomFactor, naw it's soup. hamburger n non-tomato vegetables.
[21:08:25] <RandomFactor> Onions are a non tomato vegitable, and they go in Chili
[21:08:37] <RandomFactor> Beans I'm not sure about
[21:08:55] <RandomFactor> Peppers of course
[21:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking more like green beans, onions, garlic, maybe peas.
[21:09:15] <RandomFactor> no peas
[21:09:23] <Runaway1956_> Well, yes, of course onions. It's not possible to cook without onions.
[21:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> also be smoking a brisket or pork butt at the same time though for the next day.
[21:09:47] <RandomFactor> mmmmm, briskit on soft tacos
[21:10:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> we ain't got manners that good. we just put it on a paper plate and eat it with a plastic fork.
[21:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you, you can cut it with a plastic spoon.
[21:11:16] <RandomFactor> Manners and TexMex? Mexican food is some of the best tasting, but worst engineered, food on the planet
[21:11:45] <Runaway1956_> Wait, wait, wait. Tacos aren't Mexican, they're Apache!
[21:12:01] <Runaway1956_> Cultureal appropriation!
[21:12:12] <RandomFactor> dunno, grew up with'em, they're mine now
[21:12:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> says you. mine get made by a black guy in TN
[21:13:03] <Runaway1956_> Best tacos ever were made by a little fat Apache woman
[21:13:04] <RandomFactor> Or a little machine that they go in a circle on until a tortilla drops out
[21:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> best tacos i ever had were in chicago
[21:13:51] <Runaway1956_> Mmmmm - Chicago - the worst bits of America, mixed up with some of the best bits
[21:14:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> stayed with a guy i worked with's family while we had a job in town. he was mexican, they was mexican, the food was amazing.
[21:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> then they gave me a pair of the right color shoes and we all went out to a birthday party for some chick what was in the gang they was members of.
[21:15:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> odd day but fun.
[21:15:54] <RandomFactor> Now while i miss the food, the color schemes were....terrible
[21:17:43] <RandomFactor> productive day. That hedge was getting crazy.
[21:17:58] <RandomFactor> Now it is only about 7' tall
[21:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> too rainy for me to do anything about the hedges
[21:18:30] <RandomFactor> wasn't raining, but all wet from raining last night
[21:18:33] <RandomFactor> very humid
[21:18:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i've been productive on borderlands 2 instead
[21:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, this is why you should think before making your sign. https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net
[21:20:47] <RandomFactor> Hah. On the flip side - 'cannot be silenced'
[21:20:58] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[21:21:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think that's more a statement of fact than a policy
[21:21:51] <RandomFactor> or more accurately, cannot be silenced without significant expense
[21:21:59] <Runaway1956_> She may be the sharpest tool in her family tree
[21:22:20] <Runaway1956_> but with cleavage like that, who cares?
[21:22:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> she ain't the sharpest bowling ball in the shed for sure.
[21:23:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, i forgot to set anything out for dinner tonight and i'm too lazy to run to the store and bump tomorrow's dinner to today. gonna start lobbying for pizza.
[21:23:54] <Runaway1956_> Pile of kittens, none of them can stand steady, or walk straight - but they are pouncing and swatting each other around
[21:24:10] <RandomFactor> you giving him suggestions for dinner?
[21:24:13] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++
[21:24:13] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 350
[21:24:14] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++
[21:24:14] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 351
[21:24:22] <FatPhil> love that gun/women thing
[21:24:28] <FatPhil> g/f didn't laugh
[21:24:43] <Runaway1956_> Nahhh, the little bastards are as bony as the worst fish
[21:24:45] <RandomFactor> Put a towel on her shoulders when she's annoyed
[21:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> embarrassed to share a gender with someone that dumb i expect.
[21:24:57] <RandomFactor> then tell her "Now you are SUPER annoyed"
[21:25:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hahahaha!
[21:25:22] <RandomFactor> just be aware, that can go one of two ways...
[21:25:32] * TheMightyBuzzard is so doing that to the next one of TR's kids who get crabby
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[21:29:04] <Runaway1956_> It's too early to be out of bed - the sun is still shining
[21:29:25] * Runaway1956_ making up with pillow
[21:29:31] <RandomFactor> "Nothing good comes of a day that starts with getting up in the MORNING"
[21:29:38] <AzumaHazuki> aaaaa-men, brother
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[21:36:47] <RandomFactor> I should go do something. but what.
[21:38:12] <AzumaHazuki> cooking!
[21:38:32] <RandomFactor> Normally a good call, but tummy full
[21:40:27] <AzumaHazuki> hmm...play with new distro in VM?
[21:40:41] <RandomFactor> hmmmm, that actually sounds decent
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[21:44:53] <RandomFactor> Why doesn't the show 'Sick Sad World' actually exist
[21:48:02] <AzumaHazuki> plot twist: it does, and we are the characters
[21:50:33] <RandomFactor> Hmmm, they're going to reboot Daria.
[22:03:55] <chromas> they should be rebooting things that sucked
[22:05:32] * chromas stands by for Hanson reboot
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[22:16:11] <FatPhil> Daria the Explaria?
[22:17:11] <chromas> Swiper noo.....[unnecessary pause] oh no, he got away before we finished talking!
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[23:09:33] <pinchy> i wonder when TMB is gonna invite everyone to his place for a big fish cookout?
[23:14:55] <AzumaHazuki> ugh...well, one of my fallback options isn't actuall an option now :/ i may end up abandoning a lease, which basically means i'll never be able to rent again anywhere
[23:15:04] <AzumaHazuki> good thing i'll be getting a house out of this anyway!
[23:19:08] <AzumaHazuki> this is really bad for my heart :/
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