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[00:57:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JCPenney Explains Why It Dropped Apple Pay - http://sylnt.us - another-nail-in-the-coffin
[00:58:44] <chromas> JCPenny's still a thing?
[00:59:01] <chromas> I thought they died along with Sears and Shopko
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[01:15:37] <FnordThe666th> no they're still plugging along. barely
[01:25:05] <Sulla> Shopko is still kind of alive
[01:32:21] <Sulla> Damn bank didn't lock in my mortgage rate and is now telling me they "don't have evidence of it" . Bastards
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[01:42:47] <Bytram> Sulla: don't you have your own copy of the mortgage docs that you signed and which *should* document the interest rate agreed to?
[01:43:34] <FnordThe666th> Presumably this is on a pending purchase?
[01:44:25] <Bytram> oh. that could be. I had assumed this was an after-the-purchase kind of infamy
[01:45:11] <Sulla> We had to push out the purchase by a month to wait for my uncle (seller) to get back to town. When I told the bank they said my rate would expire and that we would need to do a new one. Options were to pay 300 bucks to lock at 3.875 or get 300 to lock at 4.2. I opted to pay and gave him my CC info over the phone
[01:45:21] <Sulla> He said he would charge it when the time comes and so I didn't worry about it
[01:45:56] <Bytram> and it was all in ... speaking (aka not in writing), of course. :(
[01:45:57] <Sulla> I should have gotten it in writing but I fail to see that just because I wouldn't screw someone over doesn't mean the credit union wouldnt
[01:46:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:46:27] <Sulla> So he tells me "good news I can keep you at 4.375 that we started with"
[01:46:28] <Sulla> Fucker
[01:46:43] <Bytram> I'm dealing with a situation on a purchase where they keep agreeing to send me something, and then a few days later I see the order voided out.
[01:47:01] <Bytram> maybe look around for another lender?
[01:48:21] <Bytram> whatever happens, let me just say "that stinks", and if that is indicative of they way they are going to treat you in the future, it might end up being a valuable lesson to go and take your business elsewhere, while you still can
[01:49:37] <Sulla> No options because we have to sign next week
[01:49:45] <Sulla> So they know they have us over a barrel
[01:50:16] <Bytram> why do you have to sign next week?
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[01:51:15] <Sulla> Uncle is leaving country again
[01:51:30] <Sulla> What you are going through sounds like bullshit too
[01:51:43] <Sulla> Luckily is a sale within family and I am getting a sweet deal
[01:52:00] <Sulla> I'm not even too concerned about the higher rate, I'm mad that they are actively trying to screw me
[01:52:01] <Bytram> can he set up a power of attorney with someone to sign on his behalf? that is a relative simple doc that can be set up quick-like
[01:52:52] <Sulla> Other family are only willing to give me a good deal if he is present, drama. They will try to throw wrenches in it if he isn't around
[01:53:07] * Bytram *shudders*
[01:53:10] <Sulla> Have an excessively greedy and rich member of the family
[01:53:24] <Bytram> one begets the other, I assume
[01:53:28] <Sulla> Yeah
[01:53:32] <Bytram> sad
[01:54:20] * Bytram is reminded of Scrooge... new the price of everything but did not know the value of anything
[01:55:02] <Sulla> Yeah. One is a former chief of nursing, other a fire chief, have a 2m home paid off in the San Juan Islands, make 16k/mo in retirement
[01:55:13] <Sulla> Yet tried to screw me out of buying the home for 8k
[01:55:23] <AzumaHazuki> too bad you can't buy human decency huh?
[01:55:26] <Sulla> Even though they know it would make me unable to meet the loan reqs
[01:55:37] <AzumaHazuki> food for thought for the "let the free market sort it out" crowd...
[01:55:50] <Sulla> I enjoy because they lecture the rest of the family (republicans) for being greedy
[01:55:54] <Bytram> release the pyrhannahs (sp?)
[01:56:06] <Bytram> projection much?
[01:56:16] <Sulla> Yet they (outwardly far left) only care about "tax for thee but not for me"
[01:56:29] <Sulla> Makes holidays enjoyable
[01:56:40] <AzumaHazuki> show them just how Republican they actually are
[01:57:02] <Bytram> sorry, not quite following that, but it is late for me and I've been battling allergies and some kind of a bug for a few days.
[01:57:24] <Bytram> that reminds me...
[01:57:27] <Bytram> allergies--
[01:57:27] <Bender> karma - allergies: -27
[01:57:33] <Sulla> Allergies--
[01:57:33] <Bender> karma - allergies: -28
[01:57:40] <Bytram> and, for good measure,
[01:57:44] <Bytram> poutine--
[01:57:44] <Bender> karma - poutine: -430
[01:57:53] <Sulla> I wouldnt go that far
[01:57:54] <AzumaHazuki> wait, people don't like poutine?
[01:58:04] <Bytram> !whoup poutine
[01:58:04] <Bender> uppers of poutine are: chromas: 8, andrew: 6, crutchy: 4, NCommander: 3, FatPhil: 3, Bytram: 3, xlefay: 2, Mattiep: 1, SpallsHurgenson: 1, TheMightyBuzzard: 1, kobach: 1, MrBluze_: 1, fyngyrz: 1, juggs: 1, robinld: 1, drgibbon: 1
[01:58:12] <Bytram> !whodown poutine
[01:58:12] <Bender> downers of poutine are: kobach: -112, crutchy: -49, Bytram: -36, chromas: -24, xlefay: -23, FoobarBazbot_: -19, FatPhil: -15, stderr: -13, mrcoolbp: -12, andrew: -12, swiss: -12, Khyber: -11, mattie_p: -11, FoobarBazbot: -10, Ethanol-fueled: -9, SoylentMUD: -9, pbnjoe: -7, drcoolbp: -7, paulej72: -6, TheMightyBuzzard: -4, stdhell: -4, dx3bydt3: -4, takyon: -3, FunPika: - 2 more
[01:58:20] <AzumaHazuki> i admit i'd rather have tomato sauce than brown gravy but otherwise, mmmmh :9
[01:58:40] <Bytram> was a person on IRC who used that as his nick.
[01:58:50] <AzumaHazuki> ohhhh
[01:59:10] <Bytram> was... unpleasant... to deal with
[01:59:10] <Sulla> Wait, tomato sauce or gravy?
[01:59:13] <Sulla> Whatis poutine?
[01:59:20] <Sulla> Isnt that cheese on fries
[01:59:20] <Bytram> =g ooutine
[01:59:21] <upstart> https://www.linkedin.com - Ooutine Last - None - None | LinkedIn
[01:59:27] <Bytram> =g poutine
[01:59:28] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Poutine - Wikipedia
[01:59:34] <Bytram> mostly
[02:00:13] <Bytram> would love to stay and chat, but I'mmaking about as many spelling errors as actual correct worsw at this point
[02:00:28] <Sulla> You are like bnormal me
[02:00:40] <Bytram> !grab Sulla
[02:00:40] <Bender> Added quote 895
[02:00:48] <Sulla> I made a ravioli the other day and a homemade holondase sauce as its all I had
[02:00:51] <Sulla> Was not bad
[02:00:51] <Bytram> !quote 895
[02:00:51] <Bender> Quote 895 - <Sulla> You are like bnormal me
[02:01:18] <Bytram> that actually sounds tasty!
[02:01:23] <AzumaHazuki> Hollandaise sauce goes best on shiny hubcaps I'm told. No plates like chrome for the Hollandaise :v
[02:01:29] * AzumaHazuki runs like hell
[02:01:41] <Sulla> I don't even know what that means
[02:02:10] <Sulla> Glad you are alive though, escaped that 30-50% bad things happening the other day
[02:02:17] * Bytram screws up his eyebrows chewing on that one for a while... things start getting translated... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
[02:03:01] * Bytram was pondering AzumaHazuki's horribly bad pun (IOW.... I loved it)
[02:03:02] <Sulla> My rage from the bank has turned to happy drunk, so no chance for me
[02:03:21] <AzumaHazuki> "no place like home for the holidays"
[02:03:39] <Bytram> Sulla: be well-prepared to refinance and do so at your earliest convenience
[02:04:00] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: yes, I finally got it, but it took me about three read-throughs to get it.
[02:04:47] <AzumaHazuki> my girlfriend is even worse, lol. she says it's a sure sign we're made for one another that neither of us has hit the other with a two by four yet
[02:04:49] <Bytram> and with that, I really need to take my leave
[02:04:57] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[02:04:57] <Sulla> Puns are best humor
[02:05:00] <Sulla> Have a good one
[02:05:26] <Bytram> yuppers on puns! two-thirds of a "pun" is... P U
[02:05:42] <Bytram> read it out loud, if you must
[02:05:48] <AzumaHazuki> and the success of any pun is in the "oy!" of the beholder
[02:06:04] <Bytram> may be a localism, not sure.
[02:06:19] <Bytram> ouch!
[02:06:28] <Bytram> oy veh!
[02:06:32] <Bytram> =)
[02:06:37] <Bytram> laters taters!
[02:11:58] * AzumaHazuki wonders something...
[02:12:04] <AzumaHazuki> allergies-=3
[02:12:18] <AzumaHazuki> okay so karma only works in single-digit intervals
[02:17:10] <AzumaHazuki> oh, has anyone tried...
[02:17:11] <AzumaHazuki> C++++
[02:17:31] <AzumaHazuki> ...think I found a little buggie :3
[02:18:16] * chromas blames Python
[02:23:05] <AzumaHazuki> "cat shit > wall && grep shit wall" is shell for "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks"
[02:23:40] <AzumaHazuki> er, < wall I think. can't see in the dark
[02:26:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DNA From Medieval Crusader Skeletons Suggests Surprising Diversity - http://sylnt.us - life-finds-a-way
[02:38:19] <Sulla> Made tempura pork from scratch, spent a hour getting sauce right, wife says she will take over. Mixes both in bowl and drops it all over the floor
[02:38:27] <Sulla> Guess the dog will be eating like a king
[02:40:15] <chromas> Pick it up and eat it. Your immune system will help out.
[02:41:07] <chromas> Probably won't do much for the floor hairs though. That's just extra fiber
[03:01:37] <AzumaHazuki> man, that thread about south africa's light issues is going to shit even faster and uglier than i expected it to
[03:04:05] <AzumaHazuki> can we please just ship all the racists over there to "take up the white man's burden" like they so obviously (hurrrrrr) want to?
[03:18:58] <Sulla> SA has some major issues going back to the civil war when the africaaners took power
[03:19:08] <Sulla> Haven't read the SN article yet
[03:19:50] <Sulla> All the tribes appear to dislike eachother, but several (zulus is an example) like the africaaners more than the other tribes
[03:20:14] <Sulla> Just like everywhere else where Europe made arbitrary boundaries and Fucked everything up
[03:20:36] <Sulla> Rather than SA being many autonomous countries, it's a bunch of people who hate eachother fighting for control
[03:21:17] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. but a bunch of ACs, or maybe one obsessive racist, are shitting up the thread with barely-disguised variations on the theme of "nig-nogs gonna nig"
[03:21:52] <AzumaHazuki> their fundamental error is in attributing to genetic makeup what is largely a culture-bound syndrome...and one, as you've pointed out, mostly imposed from without
[03:25:51] <Sulla> Ugh paywalled sources suck
[03:29:02] <Sulla> Seems the Zulu are scared of what happened in Zimbabwe where when the lands were taken from the white farms the tribal farmers were unable to meet equivalent quotas and people starved
[03:30:04] <AzumaHazuki> this is, to put it mildly, a reasonable fear...starvation is a horrible, slow death
[03:55:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Accidental Discovery Makes A Coral Reef Grow 25 Times Faster - http://sylnt.us - well-that's-odd
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[05:25:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Huawei P30 Pro Found To Be Querying Servers In China - http://sylnt.us - free-backups
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[06:17:19] <chromas> Hm, most Android phones query servers in the US
[07:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MIT Scientists 'Work Out' Synthetic Hydrogels to Make Them Stronger - http://sylnt.us - do-you-even-lift-gel?
[08:38:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Hotspot Finder App Exposed 2 Million Wi-Fi Network Passwords - http://sylnt.us - definitely-a-hot-spot
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[10:07:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Self Driving Cars May Get a New (non LiDAR) Way to See - http://sylnt.us - take-me-to-Anchorage,-Alaska
[10:26:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:26:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4732
[10:49:10] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:49:12] * exec cohesively heaps a safespace of tofurkey on TheMightyBuzzard
[10:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[10:49:25] * exec curiously hurls a truecrypt volume of hacks at FatPhil
[10:49:30] <FatPhil> win!
[10:49:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[10:50:04] * TheMightyBuzzard got no luv for da soy
[10:50:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> only thing that bean's good for is sauce
[10:50:53] <FatPhil> agree with that
[10:51:49] <FatPhil> we have a new indian restaurant (dedicated indian, not mixed asian cuisine) in town, and I notice that there's no tofu in their menu. All veggie dishes are pulses.
[10:52:04] <FatPhil> alas, they cater for the local tastes, which is mild mild mild :(
[10:52:08] <boru> Veggie dishes? Sounds awful.
[10:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure extended exposure to it in any other form causes acute testosterone deficiency
[10:52:22] * boru chuckles.
[10:52:32] <FatPhil> a good chick pea curry can make a nice side dish.
[10:52:46] <boru> For what? Rabbits?
[10:53:14] <FatPhil> what would you prefer as a side dish?
[10:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin wrong with vegetables as sides. fried okra, fried squash, fried taters...
[10:53:26] <boru> I would prefer rabbits as a side dish.
[10:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it's duck season!
[10:53:41] <FatPhil> you're showing your poacher roots
[10:54:15] <boru> Pft, I'm no bloody poacher.
[10:54:39] <FatPhil> bhindi bhaji is a great side, agree with that.
[10:55:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, he's irish, they were more annoyingly violent folks who it was fun to kill for no particular reason than poachers. yall brit peasants was the poachers. =P
[10:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of annoyingly violent, i need to shoot lots of people inna face.
[10:57:44] * TheMightyBuzzard fires up borderlands 2
[10:58:02] <FatPhil> You're saying this to someone whose surname is "Carmody", who has a suspicious tint of red in his beard, and who absolutely cannot tan (unless red is a tan)
[11:02:48] * boru chuckles.
[11:21:47] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[11:21:48] <upstart> ^ 03RELENTLESS DOPPELGANGER \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/
[11:21:49] <exec> └─ 13RELENTLESS DOPPELGANGER \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ - YouTube
[11:27:56] <boru> That's quite amusing.
[11:38:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robot Authors Trying to Compete With George Orwell - http://sylnt.us - try-harder
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[12:57:46] <RandomFactor> if I tell them I am motivated can I leave the motivational meeting?
[13:06:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bug in French Government’s WhatsApp Replacement Let Anyone Join Élysée Chats - http://sylnt.us - that's-why-it's-called-a-beta
[13:18:01] <FatPhil> Tell them you're rotivated instead
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[13:33:56] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://www.wired.com
[13:33:56] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[13:33:58] <exec> └─ 13A 'Blockchain Bandit' Is Guessing Private Keys and Scoring Millions | WIRED
[13:34:02] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.wired.com
[13:34:04] <upstart> Submitting "A 'Blockchain Bandit' Is Guessing Private Keys and Scoring Millions"...
[13:34:04] <exec> └─ 13A 'Blockchain Bandit' Is Guessing Private Keys and Scoring Millions | WIRED
[13:34:26] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "A 'Blockchain Bandit' Is Guessing Private Keys and Scoring Millions" -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:26:26] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[14:26:28] <upstart> Submitting "OCR4all: Modern tool for old texts"...
[14:26:28] <exec> └─ 13OCR4all: Modern tool for old texts
[14:26:44] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[14:26:46] <upstart> Submitting "NIST tool enables more comprehensive tests on high-risk software"...
[14:26:46] <exec> └─ 13NIST tool enables more comprehensive tests on high-risk software
[14:26:50] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "OCR4all: Modern Tool for Old Texts" -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:27:08] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "NIST Tool Enables More Comprehensive Tests on High-risk Software" -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:35:10] <Bytram> time to get ready for work -- have a great day everyone!!
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[15:03:29] <Sulla> Tofu is best as a compliment to meat
[15:30:31] <Sulla> IT person came and win10'd my computer last night
[15:38:37] <boru> Nasty.
[15:59:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> windows 10 is better than windows 8.
[16:00:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> of course, a speak-n-spell is better than a computer with windows 8.
[16:12:54] <FatPhil> The last windows I used was NT4, back in the 90s. It was clear things were getting more and more the-r-worded even back then.
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[16:13:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> the default interface got exponentially more stupid up until Windows 8, then they corrected somewhat with Windows 10.
[16:14:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> Don't get me wrong, the interface is still VERY stupid - but at least it's not "I don't know if I want to be a tablet or a desktop when I grow up so I'm going to be BOTH" level stupid.
[16:17:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alphabet’s Wing Drones Get FAA Approval to Make Deliveries in the US - http://sylnt.us - on-a-wing-and-a-prayer
[16:39:36] <Sulla> Windows 10 being better than 8 is no reason to force me from 7
[16:39:46] <Sulla> Computer is operating at full fan force
[16:39:58] <Sulla> Also, no classic theme
[17:02:33] <Sulla> Holy fuck. You can turn sound off completely and outlook will still make noise
[17:04:19] <chromas> Wow, I can't believe you guys are hating on the Differently Abled™ like that. I'm tattling
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[17:04:51] <chromas> Wow, insta-Zucced
[17:05:02] * chromas blames the ™ character
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[17:14:53] <chromas> ~g'day Sulla
[17:14:56] * exec inadequately offers a megabyte of 🐔💨 to Sulla
[17:15:07] <Sulla> Wew rude
[17:15:16] <Sulla> ~g'day Chromas
[17:15:18] * exec problematically violates a far-flung galaxy of socketable gems with Chromas
[17:15:31] <chromas> So I sent a message to the channel and both you and Web_weasel disconnected. I wonder if you're both using the same irc client
[17:15:46] <Sulla> I'm like a god
[17:15:47] <chromas> ooh, gems
[17:15:57] <Sulla> I was switching from WiFi to non wifi
[17:16:06] <chromas> ah
[17:16:07] <FatPhil> let's fuzz the channel with utf-16!
[17:16:13] <Sulla> WiFi is the shitty for staying on irc
[17:16:18] <Sulla> Using revolution irc btw
[17:16:29] <chromas> Well are you related to Web_weasel at all? Maybe he's your secret alt that I don't need to know about
[17:17:30] <chromas> Just thought it's weird you both disconnected at the same time or the same reason.
[17:33:46] <FatPhil> Philthy Phil's now drinking Philter Lager
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[17:45:46] <Sulla> No idea, it's possible
[17:48:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Quietly Gives Up On Its “Sets” Tabbed Window Feature - http://sylnt.us - why-not-beta-for-some-years-before-tossing-the-idea?
[18:25:54] <Sulla> Oh God. Given assumptions as the basis on a project. Work on it day in day out for several weeks. End result not correct, find out the instructions I was given were false, must re-do from scratch
[19:16:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What’s Right and What's Wrong With the Music Modernization Act - http://sylnt.us - it's-not-perfect-but.....
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[20:02:42] <FatPhil> https://www.foxnews.com
[20:02:43] <upstart> ^ 03Pennsylvania woman killed following 'horrible' meat grinder incident: official
[20:02:44] <exec> └─ 13Pennsylvania woman killed following 'horrible' meat grinder incident: official | Fox News
[20:02:52] <Sulla> Ouch
[20:03:04] <Sulla> Shouldn't mince words on that one
[20:21:44] <RandomFactor> it was six feet off the ground
[20:23:43] <RandomFactor> she leaned in
[20:27:33] <FatPhil> there's prima facie evidence for her falling in head-first
[20:47:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Hackers are Targeting European Embassies, According to New Report - http://sylnt.us - not-sure-what-their-aim-is
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[21:22:14] <FatPhil> ~gday AzumaHazuki
[21:22:17] * exec readily launches a raid 4 volume of buttermilk toward AzumaHazuki
[21:23:39] * AzumaHazuki holds up a bowl of sourdough starter and catches it!
[21:23:40] <FatPhil> Redundant arrays of inexpensive dairy!
[21:23:51] <AzumaHazuki> LOL! Perfect :)
[22:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >beverage redundant arrays of inexpensive dairy
[22:00:02] <exec> added to beverages
[22:11:32] <FatPhil> ~gday >beverage dangly bits
[22:11:34] <exec> error: beverage already exists
[22:11:41] <FatPhil> I must have added that
[22:11:52] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[22:11:54] * exec cautiously drops cream of coffee stains on TheMightyBuzzard
[22:12:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[22:12:02] * exec democratically duplicates a beach bucket of pepper for FatPhil
[22:27:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Advance In Car T-Cell Therapy Eliminates Severe Side Effects - http://sylnt.us - always-improving
[22:32:44] <FatPhil> package sent from oz 11 weeks ago, by boat, expected delivery time 4-6 weeks. This morning, we went to the central post office to say "we were expecting a package, any ideas?" and the answer was "no clue - they don't use tracking numbers, so tough titty".
[22:33:13] <FatPhil> This afternoon, an SMS arrived: "there's a package to collect for you from Australia".
[22:33:18] <FatPhil> coincidence?
[22:33:30] <AzumaHazuki> likely not, IMO
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[23:09:01] <Sulla> Well, guess my days of cigar++ end on Jan 1
[23:09:32] <Sulla> They are ending the 50 cent tax on cigars and putting a 65% one in its place. Average 10 dollar cigar will be 16.50
[23:23:21] <Sulla> Currently the cigar only stores operate on a 25 cent margin/cigar. So my local shop, most sales on the west coast, will be closing on Jan 1
[23:58:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Discover Bizarre New Sea Squirt Stalking The Ocean Floor - http://sylnt.us - squirtel