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[05:56:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia Passes Law Requiring Social Media to Remove Content Within one Hour - http://sylnt.us - waiting-until-they-try-to-legislate-"abhorent"-text
[05:58:57] <Sulla> Cigar++
[05:58:57] <Bender> karma - cigar: 60
[05:59:31] <Sulla> I wonder what is worst, covering oneself in pesticides to make mosquitos alone or smoking a cigar to do the same.
[05:59:49] <Sulla> I suppose It won't matter if nicotine pesticide though
[06:00:52] <AzumaHazuki> citronella works well. i got some plain castille soap and put some citronella oil in it once, and that seemed to help a bit
[06:04:17] <Sulla> Ill check that out
[06:04:59] <Sulla> Sometimes like to sit outside, listen to frogs, and enjoy whisky. I don't always want a cigar but keeps the bugs away. Other options appreciated
[06:07:03] <Sulla> Really hope Snow follows your advice. He really needs to actually work at that relationship. He has said previously part of the reason he is in it is for his kid
[06:07:08] <AzumaHazuki> burning a citronella candle maybe
[06:07:19] <Sulla> Kind of pointless to stay in a relationship for a kid then be a bad role model anyways
[06:07:31] <AzumaHazuki> also eating a metric crapload (1.15 imperial craploads) of garlic
[06:07:51] <AzumaHazuki> yes. me too. i cannot tell you how much i hate him, to have so much going for him and not appreciate it
[06:07:59] <AzumaHazuki> i would kill, or at least seriously maim, for his kind of life
[06:09:10] <Sulla> I do a lot of garlic. Also seeing mint as useful. Can just rub some on my ankles and arms and might help too, tons growing in yard
[06:09:41] <Sulla> What does he do for a living, I don't recall
[06:10:11] <AzumaHazuki> no idea
[06:10:38] <AzumaHazuki> but at this point i hope he either cuts this shit out or gets divorced, gets his balls removed via his wallet, and learns what real suffering is
[06:11:50] <Sulla> Haha. He seems to do a lot of assuming what his wife is okay with
[06:11:55] <Sulla> But we don't see everything
[06:12:05] <Sulla> But assuming just leads to differing expectations
[06:12:35] <Sulla> If he thinks it's fine, and she thinks it's not, he will always be trying to fix the wrong thing, and it will all collapse
[06:12:52] <AzumaHazuki> you know, several people both here and on the forum have been calling me "Cassandra" lately
[06:13:00] <Sulla> why?
[06:13:10] <AzumaHazuki> it fits. i've always been like that. i say things, no one believes me, they happen, and i get flack for it somehow
[06:14:11] <Sulla> "Cassandra or Kassandra, also known as Alexandra, was a daughter of King Priam and of Queen Hecuba of Troy in Greek mythology. Cassandra was cursed to utter prophecies that were true but that no one believed. "
[06:14:29] <AzumaHazuki> That one. Difference being I never cheated on Apollo
[06:14:44] <Sulla> You still have time
[06:14:52] <Sulla> Would be difficult though I imagine
[06:15:04] <AzumaHazuki> right, since 1) he doesn't exist and 2) i'm gay :v
[06:15:27] <AzumaHazuki> Artemis, now...*fans self
[06:15:41] <Sulla> In this day and age Apollo might not necessarily be a guys name
[06:17:38] <Sulla> I was talking with my wife about bad pharmacy bosses. She said that If you can get into a place where you can pick up float hours at other locations (Safeway, fredmeyers, etc) you can sample management styles then try to transfer
[06:17:52] <Sulla> Wife just found one who posted a three month schedule
[06:18:12] <AzumaHazuki> i'm looking into a cert program. one where you get to learn and get paid, then pledge 2 years
[06:18:24] <Sulla> Nice
[06:18:47] <Sulla> Sounds like your state might be more strict on techs
[06:19:32] <Sulla> Oregon you typically get hired as a tech, then have six months or a year to go from no knowledge to pass state cert (100 bucks) then you become full certed tech
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[07:47:18] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[07:47:22] <exec> └─ 13A rasher of bacon 'ups cancer risk' - BBC News
[07:47:52] <AzumaHazuki> ...well, pizdec. i had bacon last week
[07:48:39] <FatPhil> I live in a "meat and potatoes" country. Life without cured meat is not life.
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[08:05:43] <chromas> hardware--
[08:05:43] <Bender> karma - hardware: -1
[08:06:04] <FatPhil> well, fuck, if it's like that
[08:06:08] <AzumaHazuki> ugh...the premonitions are getting worse. so much just shifted out under my feet ><
[08:06:09] <FatPhil> hardware--
[08:06:09] <Bender> karma - hardware: -2
[08:06:31] <FatPhil> that's not a premonition
[08:06:47] <AzumaHazuki> i swear it feels like my brain can't focus on one moment in spacetime. so many flapping fucking timelines are sleeting through it
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[08:07:17] <AzumaHazuki> i've had one foot in the grave since second or third grade and all sorts of spooky shit has been happening since then
[08:09:31] <FatPhil> You popped off channel to quickly a couple of days ago, I was going to, in my entirely non-expert view advise that you shrink your horizons, so that it's easier to focus on a smaller world.
[08:10:04] <AzumaHazuki> trying like hell. it's seriously difficult. i know too much about how reality works so i keep sort of, not seeing, but *experiencing* things as overlays of fields
[08:10:36] <AzumaHazuki> like, i know what the electric fields are doing. i know the actual nuclei of the atoms making up me and my bed aren't touching; it's mutual repulsion of electric fields
[08:11:12] <AzumaHazuki> i know light itself isn't actually visible: what we see is just the brain's interpretation of what happens when a photon with a given wavelength smacks a receptor just so...
[08:11:36] <FatPhil> This is a concept I try to raise with philosophers occasionally, they don't understand what I'm getting at.
[08:12:43] <AzumaHazuki> the real kicker was having the realization of the concept Buddhists call anatman or non-self. there is no "me" as a first order phenomenon. "me" is an emergent, second-order existence
[08:13:15] <AzumaHazuki> it's one thing to know that intellectually, but to actually experience and live it...
[08:14:02] <FatPhil> What you said a couple of days ago was more hindu than buddhist
[08:14:23] <AzumaHazuki> which thing in particular?
[08:14:43] <FatPhil> regarding reincarnation of your self
[08:15:06] <FatPhil> hindus have the self to reincarnate, buddhists do not
[08:15:11] <AzumaHazuki> reincarnation is maybe the wrong word. "rebirth" is closer. kind of like lighting a second candle from the guttering stump of the first
[08:15:36] <AzumaHazuki> keeping this emergent chain of second-order phenomena going. but there's so little point to doing that, which is why i don't want to
[08:16:08] <FatPhil> I like the buddhist view of oneself just being a source of ripples
[08:16:27] <AzumaHazuki> the world doesn't have much hold on me. maybe it never did. i feel the dirac sea calling, and it's getting stronger by the day...
[08:17:00] <FatPhil> but you have plenty more waves to make
[08:17:27] <AzumaHazuki> maybe so, maybe not. i can't tell. but the probabilities i'm reading kind of don't seem like that's the case
[08:17:48] <FatPhil> put down the binoculars
[08:17:52] <AzumaHazuki> and i'm going to die without ever understanding how the hell i'm doing any of this or even what it is i'm doing.
[08:19:16] <FatPhil> Some have said that those who understand their life must have a tragically simple life.
[08:19:45] <AzumaHazuki> there's a second way to read that, that someone who really understands it has to keep things simple or go insane...
[08:21:58] <AzumaHazuki> do you think it's possible to be "too sane?" Pratchett kind of explored that by calling Sam Vimes "knurd," like, inverse drunk, at negative-one drinks by default
[08:22:17] <FatPhil> I don't actually believe there is "sane"
[08:23:32] <FatPhil> I simply believe there's a noise floor below which the bubbling frothing issues that exist in every brain are small enough that there's no need to currently worry about.
[08:24:03] <FatPhil> plus other words to make that gramatically correct
[08:24:35] <AzumaHazuki> hm, interesting idea. unprovable and unfalsifiable
[08:25:11] <FatPhil> The counterargument is unfalsifiable too.
[08:25:35] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, it's running into the incompleteness theorem...can't tell whether a system of logic is consistent from within that system
[08:26:29] <FatPhil> I don't like mixing mathematics with philosophy - I;m a mathematician.
[08:26:59] <AzumaHazuki> mathematics is philosophy, sorry :v
[08:27:17] <FatPhil> "foundations" (logic + set theory) was the paper I got the highest marks in.
[08:27:38] <FatPhil> I never liked the philosophers muscling into my turf.
[08:28:00] <AzumaHazuki> they would say that you're on their turf, and a rather small piece of it at that
[08:28:23] <FatPhil> Philosophy is the metascience of the gaps
[08:28:46] <FatPhil> It becomes less and less relevant at science advances.
[08:28:48] * AzumaHazuki is beginning to think she ought not drink an entire pot of coffee at 3 PM...
[08:29:23] <FatPhil> Why didn't you give me advice like that when I was drinking an entire bottle of whisky at 3AM?
[08:29:41] <AzumaHazuki> you're drunk? o..o
[08:30:26] <FatPhil> I have genes that don't give me any negative feedback from drinking.
[08:31:05] <AzumaHazuki> ah, overproducer of aldehyde dehydrogenase enzymes?
[08:31:18] * AzumaHazuki is teetotal, has been drunk once, hates it
[08:31:31] <FatPhil> Sounds like my dad.
[08:31:39] <FatPhil> I got these genes from my mum
[08:34:17] <FatPhil> Back when I was in my teens, I did get hangovers, but that malfunction fixed itself some time in my 20s.
[08:34:32] <AzumaHazuki> weird o.o
[08:34:59] <AzumaHazuki> ...i used to be not-allergic to shrimp, but became deadly allergic after puberty. and somehow i can eat a few now with no ill effects
[08:35:25] <FatPhil> One bizarre situation about 5 years ago did lead to one. It caused me to apologise to all my friends as I briefly understood what they'd been talking about for so long.
[08:36:30] <FatPhil> Shrimp's one of those things where you can retrain your system. g/f's mum had the same story as you.
[08:36:54] <AzumaHazuki> huh, no kidding? good, because i fucking love fried shrimp :9 Ommmmmnomnomnom
[08:37:26] <FatPhil> yeah, g/f's mum too, she's happily up to a couple of shrimp now.
[08:39:32] <FatPhil> I do have a friend who went in the opposite direction though. From the islands in Finland - surrounded by seafood, and now she can't eat a bite.
[08:39:56] <AzumaHazuki> that sounds awful
[08:39:56] <FatPhil> We are dynamic systems, and we're not fully in control
[08:43:10] <boru> How did you find out about my experiments!
[08:43:24] <FatPhil> you as well?
[08:43:26] <boru> The clinical trials were supposed to be a secret.
[08:44:01] <FatPhil> g/f's a social anthropologist, and I'm not sure I'm not her post-doc
[08:44:03] <boru> But hold that thought; if I don't acquire coffee in the next few minutes, I am going to absolutely defenestrate my colleague beside me.
[08:45:33] <FatPhil> don't you have a bottle of whisk(e)y in your desk drawers?
[08:51:26] <chromas> If you don't drink your coffee, you can't have any whiskey. How can you have any whisky if you don't drink your coffee?
[08:52:15] <boru> I do, actually. I usually have a minimum of four bottles of whiskey under my desk.
[08:53:14] <boru> And some shite violated the serious coffee netiquette by emptying the pot and not setting up another one.
[08:53:21] <boru> This is sure to be a trying day.
[08:57:31] <FatPhil> chromas: dude, I did I mention I was playing Pink Floyd right now?
[08:57:47] <FatPhil> chromas++ for wall references
[08:57:47] <Bender> karma - chromas: 255
[08:57:58] <boru> Playing it on an instrument, or listening to it?
[08:58:30] <FatPhil> I paid good money for kit like this so that I don't have to make my own music!
[08:58:38] <FatPhil> (all 2nd had, obvs
[08:58:38] <chromas> You might decrement me for this, but the wall is the only album I've heard (and only one I buttpirated)
[08:59:58] <FatPhil> I have slightly unusual PF tastes, everyone's all /Wish You Were Here/, but I think that's only one of their very good albums, not one of the great ones.
[09:00:41] <FatPhil> /Animals/ is magnificent.
[09:01:11] <FatPhil> That's what I was just blasting out at disgustingly loud volumes.
[09:09:08] <FatPhil> ... and shelter ...
[09:09:15] <FatPhil> from pigs on the wing
[09:12:00] <FatPhil> n.p. George Bellas /Mind Over Matter/, because if some notes are good, more notes are better.
[09:13:31] <boru> I think Pink Floyd are awful, personally.
[09:13:35] <FatPhil> He's the kind of guy that plays a few chords occasionally, to break up the soloing.
[09:13:48] <FatPhil> the wonderful thing about tastes is that they're personal
[09:13:56] <FatPhil> and yours is terrible :)
[09:15:07] <boru> I agree. I am partially being contrarian, but I do think Pink Floyd and the likes of the Beatles are far, far overrated. I understand that people hold onto the 'they were first!' rhetoric, but musically, I think both bands are boring.
[09:15:39] <FatPhil> How many people do you know that think /Animals/ is their best album?
[09:16:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tired of those Medical Brace calls? Relief is on the way! - http://sylnt.us - you-may-qualify-for-a-FREE-jail-cell
[09:16:05] <boru> I try not to associate with Pink Floyd fans at all. A dreadful, smelly lot.
[09:17:28] <FatPhil> not all Floyd fans are the same
[09:17:36] <FatPhil> HOwever, I probably am smelly!
[09:17:38] <boru> I'm being serious, you eejit!
[09:17:44] <boru> Err, not being serious.
[09:17:54] <boru> I just wanted to wind you up.
[09:18:49] <FatPhil> I haven't had a haircut in >25 years, I tick the boxes!
[09:19:51] <FatPhil> I think there is a problem with "fans" generally though, it's not just Pink Floyd.
[09:20:01] <FatPhil> Yes, I am *determined* to take you seriously!
[09:24:28] * boru chuckles.
[09:24:32] <boru> How are you!
[09:24:37] <boru> Ugh, how dare you, even.
[09:24:55] <FatPhil> I'm fine, thank you!
[09:25:05] <boru> Oh feck off.
[09:25:42] <FatPhil> me puts on the same 20-year-old faded black t-shirt as yesterday, because fuck you, and heads out to lunch
[09:25:48] <FatPhil> +/
[09:26:34] <boru> Is it lunchtime already there?
[09:26:44] <boru> Oh, right, you're two hours ahead of us, right?
[09:26:44] <FatPhil> I'm half an hour late!
[09:27:24] <FatPhil> we have a new indian buffet in town that starts at 11:00, I reckon I'll be getting some early lunches
[09:28:31] <FatPhil> I try to keep OpenStreetMap up to date, but things change so frequently I'm tempted to call it "ClosedStreetMap"
[09:29:05] * chromas waits expectantly for the LibreStreeMap fork
[09:30:21] <boru> It's annoying how it sometimes seems to randomly not send tiles to the client.
[09:30:31] <boru> Which is frequent, ime.
[09:32:30] <chromas> Maybe the jawascript doesn't request it
[09:33:28] <FatPhil> the web front end does get pretty hammered occasionally
[09:34:44] <FatPhil> shitty clients gonna be shitty
[09:37:46] <boru> Sounds like a poor choice of technologies.
[09:39:11] <FatPhil> it's a webserver, what did you expect?
[09:41:22] <boru> Precisely.
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[10:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rebecca Twigg: Olympic Silver -- IT worker -- Homeless - http://sylnt.us - that-could-have-been-me
[12:26:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As Notre-Dame Burned, Alt-Right Figures Launched a Campaign on Social Media Falsely Blaming Muslims - http://sylnt.us - even-SN-is-vulnerable
[12:29:33] <boru> There should be a comedy nexus, like the politics one, especially for aristarchus submissions.
[12:29:49] <boru> Not sure why that one isn't filed under politics, either.
[12:33:21] <Bytram> boru: good point on nexus... changing
[12:34:42] <boru> Thanks man.
[12:35:02] <Bytram> on 2nd thought, just *addiing* politics as a nexus.
[12:35:14] <boru> Oh, is it not already?
[12:35:26] <Bytram> wasn't
[12:35:40] <boru> I thought the list of them was what was under preferences for what you want to see on the main page.
[12:35:43] <Bytram> is now... but give the caches a few minutes to get the changes
[12:35:58] <Bytram> is... weird
[12:36:02] <boru> Ah, they're 'sections', I guess.
[12:36:45] <boru> Or are nexus and section categories the same thing?
[12:37:21] <Bytram> the list of topics and sections and nexuses (there's a synonym in there somewhere but I'm not awake to remember which is which) all draw from the same 'master' column of choices... semantics and/or where-used determines which it is
[12:37:25] <boru> Anyway, that seems to have worked, so thank you.
[12:37:34] <Bytram> far from ideal but it's how it was done. :P
[12:37:44] <Bytram> hth
[12:37:56] <boru> It sure does. Thank you kindly.
[12:38:22] <Bytram> my pleasure!
[12:38:29] <Bytram> that reminds me... brb
[12:39:37] <Bytram> ugh.
[12:39:45] <boru> Oh dear, what I have done?
[12:39:51] <Bytram> have a user who created a new account but could not login...
[12:40:32] <Bytram> I reset the acct once, but did not seem to help... am waiting to see if a new reset worked... so far no email and it doesnot look like the acct was accessed since the creation date.
[12:40:48] <Bytram> !uid
[12:40:48] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7766, owned by Kapotthdet
[12:40:57] <boru> No email sent, or no email received? Could be a slow as hell MTA.
[12:41:06] <Bytram> not received
[12:41:13] <FatPhil> or greylisting
[12:41:13] <Bytram> they are on gmail
[12:41:15] <boru> I've had that with all of the major free crapmail providers.
[12:41:49] <boru> Yeah, I've seen that on gmail for certain. Goolag are probably doing a big user transfer to the NSA or some such, and that's soaking up all of their bandwidth.
[12:41:55] <Bytram> we have our own mail 'system' which (AFAICT) is well-handled and have not had issues with lost email in past.
[12:42:45] <Bytram> I copied the rest of the admin users on my email and got a bounce for one user on the list and that arrived quite quickly.
[12:44:26] <boru> On the note of goolag, someone sent this to me today when we were talking about pipe smoking: https://i.imgur.com
[12:44:45] <boru> Are they trying to imply that I am a national socialist for smoking a pipe?
[12:45:20] <Bytram> no eye deer
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[12:51:05] <Bytram> =g what we have here is a failure to communicate
[12:51:06] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got ...
[12:51:09] <exec> └─ 13Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got here is failure to communicate" - YouTube
[13:09:59] <Bytram> break time
[13:58:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Disgruntled Security Researcher Is Dropping Zero-Day Vulnerabilities On WordPress Users - http://sylnt.us - and-he-shall-rain-down-fire-and-brimstone
[14:00:56] <Sulla> Boro all smokers are Nazis, get with the times
[14:01:23] <Sulla> Us smokers (especially cigars) gas people with pesticides wherever they go
[14:02:12] <boru> They turned me into a newt!
[14:02:48] <boru> What's the US cigar game like these days? I've mostly switched over to the pipe now, full time, but still occasionally pick up a cab of Cubans.
[14:07:32] <Sulla> People who smoke a lot of cigars here in the states are not fans of cubans
[14:07:54] <Sulla> There are a couple brands that are good, but Cuban cigars lack consistently
[14:08:02] <Sulla> Consistency*
[14:09:03] <Sulla> Across the same box you can have varied levels of dryness, flavor profiles, draw, etc
[14:09:43] <Sulla> Expensive Cubans are from what I understand still the cream of the crop, but for continuous consistency and quality Nicaragua is where its at
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[14:13:16] <boru> Hmm, fair enough. What about home grown tobaccos?
[14:25:53] <Sulla> I grow my own, but mostly as a pesticide
[14:26:37] <Sulla> I have not been successful in aging it, and right now don't have a way to do a good aging setup
[14:27:08] <Sulla> What do cigars cost where you are at, say for a generic good quality churchhill?
[14:37:19] <boru> Far too much.
[14:37:40] <boru> I meant home-grown as in US tobacco in general, but that's neat that you're growing.
[14:38:19] <Sulla> In the US not much we have is used for cigars
[14:38:33] <Sulla> Some wrappers are made from US tobacco, but most goes to cigs
[14:38:53] <boru> Aye, pipe tobacco as well.
[14:39:45] <Sulla> I need to smoke more pipe
[14:40:11] <Sulla> A session of pipe smoking is a few cents vs 10-15 dollars
[14:40:39] <boru> Yeah, indeed. Far more economical. I've just picked up a bunch of blends here locally.
[14:40:58] <boru> I mostly smoke flakes, and generally latakia heavy.
[14:41:39] <Sulla> I have yet to try latakia, but need to
[14:42:05] <Sulla> I found pipes generally burn hotter smoke than I want
[14:44:14] <boru> Aye, I prefer a cooler smoke.
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[14:45:21] <boru> If you like latakia heavy blends, I'd highly recommend Cornell & Deihl's daVinci tobacco; 70% lat. I managed to find two tins of it back home in Ireland, but no one in Europe stocks it because of the import duties. That, and their Pirate Kake are good stuff.
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[15:00:53] <boru> And, in general, get yourself a pipe with the Peterson system. It's a vapour trap in the stem which will cool off your smoke even more, unless you want to go nuts and buy yourself a churchwarden pipe, but they're not very pocket-portable.
[15:11:50] <Sulla> I normally smoke a churchwarden but I'll check out peterson
[15:12:39] <boru> Peterson isn't a shape in the classic sense like a churchwarden, but a feature inside the pipe. Peterson do make pipes, as well, though. All of my pipes are Peterson's.
[15:12:56] <boru> Almost exclusively briar wood.
[15:13:38] <boru> And generally sandblasted or rustic finishes, such that they have more cooling surface on the bowl, and are easier to hold.
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[15:14:57] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://arstechnica.com
[15:14:58] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:14:59] <exec> └─ 13T-Mobile/Sprint merger is in danger of being rejected by DOJ | Ars Technica
[15:15:23] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:15:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia's Parliament Votes to Unplug Regional Network from the Internet - http://sylnt.us - an-internet-vs-The-Internet
[15:15:40] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://mashable.com
[15:15:40] <Sulla> I've been carving my own from walnut
[15:15:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:15:43] <exec> └─ 13Twitter secretly verified Jack Dorsey's mom and thousands of others despite 'pause'
[15:15:49] <boru> Impressive!
[15:16:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:07] <Sulla> Need an SN tobacco exchange
[15:18:16] <boru> I couldn't agree more.
[15:18:48] <boru> That C&D daVinci is great stuff.
[15:19:16] <boru> The blenders at the company are sound, as well. I had a few email exchanges with them trying to source their tobacco over on this side of the pond.
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[15:31:50] <Sulla> do I need to buy some and send it? Don't know how your government will react
[15:32:47] <boru> Indeed, I'd have to look into it. I'll be relocating again shortly, anyway.
[15:33:01] <boru> But if you _are_ interested in exchanging tobaccos, count me in.
[15:33:21] <Sulla> Yeah I'm down for it
[15:33:41] <Sulla> Long as it doesn't get stolen by the king
[15:33:53] <boru> Sound. We'll certainly figure something out once I get situtated again.
[15:34:21] <boru> Well, we'd probably be alright back home in Ireland, forget it for here in Scotland, but we might manage again once I get to Germany.
[15:35:15] <boru> I take it you tend to go for non-aromatic pipe tobaccos, being a fellow cigar smoker.
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[16:03:30] <Sulla> Actually really like aromatics as well
[16:03:45] <Sulla> I know little about pipe tobacco
[16:04:06] <Sulla> When I smoke I smoke a mix of lane 1a and cherry like Eisenhower
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[16:45:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Possible Evidence of an Extrasolar Object Striking the Earth in 2014 - http://sylnt.us - striking-development?
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[17:17:11] <Sulla_> https://www.npr.org
[17:17:11] <systemd> ^ 03Scientists Restore Some Function In The Brains Of Dead Pigs
[17:17:14] <exec> └─ 13Pig Brains Partly Revived By Scientists Hours After Animals Died : Shots - Health News : NPR
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[17:36:15] <Sulla> Cigar++
[17:36:15] <Bender> karma - cigar: 61
[18:32:19] <chromas> Never knew there was so much technology and design in pipes
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[19:11:06] <Sulla> https://pipedia.org
[19:11:07] <systemd> ^ 03A closer look at the famous Peterson Standard System Pipe - Pipedia
[19:11:09] <Sulla> Interesting
[19:11:13] <exec> └─ 13A closer look at the famous Peterson Standard System Pipe - Pipedia
[19:17:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Breaking Bad: Japan Prof 'Made Students Produce Ecstasy' - http://sylnt.us
[19:17:16] <Sulla> Think I'll try my hand at building one from walnut
[19:17:51] <chromas> Do you make it out of one piece? Or two that you stick together?
[19:18:16] <Sulla> Bowl could be one peice
[19:18:32] <Sulla> I should have all the bits I need for it,
[19:20:38] <chromas> The worst thing about Unicode is allowing those dirty foreigners to put their opening quotation marks at the bottom („)
[19:32:37] <Bytram> and the inverted "?" and "!" characters, too?
[19:33:27] <chromas> Those are okay. Only the quotes are bad
[19:41:00] <Sulla> Such bias, just be welcoming
[19:42:15] <AzumaHazuki> the worst part about Unicode is the emoji
[19:42:37] <FatPhil> The worst part of Unicode is anything over 0x7f!
[19:42:43] <AzumaHazuki> what the actual fuck. did no one watch Idiocracy? do we really want the Idiocacy hospital code control panel in our internationa standards?
[19:42:54] <Sulla> Crap. Have an appointment at an allergy clinic. Thought check in was at 1245, but it's 145
[19:42:58] * AzumaHazuki is just waiting for the "not for the faint of butt" emoji
[19:42:59] <Sulla> In general emojis are cancer
[19:43:22] <FatPhil> It's just the 'clipart' fad from the 90s all over again.
[19:43:53] <chromas> 😼
[19:45:18] <AzumaHazuki> ...why can i see that in IRSSI? *eyes Noto font packages suspiciously...*
[19:45:22] <chromas> Neat. There're even game sections. Mahjong tiles, dominoes
[19:46:18] <FatPhil> In my irssi, over ssh/tmux, I just see 22:46 <+chromas> ?
[19:46:24] <chromas> You can never get away from it. The glyphs are coming for you
[19:47:17] <chromas> It was U+1F63C, "cat with wry smile"
[19:47:35] <FatPhil> cat with rye whiskey
[19:47:36] <chromas> there are cat emotes
[19:48:52] <chromas> Unicode has cats. Linux has hostnamectl. You're right. The end is nigh.
[19:50:39] <chromas> Ooh, hostnamectl not only sets /etc/hostname but also lets me assign an icon to the host. Linux is big league now
[19:51:57] <AzumaHazuki> oh ye gods
[19:52:10] <AzumaHazuki> get that systemd crap off your system. artix linux is arch - systemd and it's amazing
[19:53:34] * AzumaHazuki is going to say fuck it and switch onto *BSD if this keeps up...
[19:56:44] <chromas> How're their graphic drivers and Steam support?
[20:08:08] <AzumaHazuki> no idea. i don't game and just run intel IGPs, so...
[20:08:38] <AzumaHazuki> what i'm more wondering about is disk encryption. they supposedly have it working in 12.0-RELEASE, but it looks a lot harder to set up than my current setup, LUKS FDE
[20:08:48] <AzumaHazuki> i don't even have anything to hide, i just like the idea of FDE :D
[20:09:13] <AzumaHazuki> it's even possible to combine it with Dracut and Plymouth to make a custom splash screen with the NSA logo, LOL
[20:11:00] <chromas> I installed Plymouth once. I must've done it wrong because I just got a blank screen for a bit before sddm
[20:12:23] <chromas> I did run btrfs over luks though. great combination. firefox would freeze up a lot
[20:12:54] <Bytram> You say that like it is a bad thing
[20:13:05] <Bytram> MDC++
[20:13:05] <Bender> karma - mdc: 2
[20:28:30] <FatPhil> Just found out today that an old Lithuanian friend died last week. He was younger than me.
[20:28:51] <FatPhil> He was the guy who first introduced me to traditional Lithuanian beer.
[20:35:47] <Bytram> FatPhil: labas!
[20:36:14] * Bytram has no idea if that is spelled correctly, but hopes it is phonetically "close enough"
[20:39:31] <Bytram> Heh! I *did* get it right... how about that? https://en.wiktionary.org
[20:39:32] <systemd> ^ 03labas - Wiktionary ( https://en.wiktionary.org )
[20:39:34] <exec> └─ 13400 Bad Request
[20:39:35] <exec> └─ 13labas - Wiktionary
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[21:03:39] <chromas> "60 People Charged For Roles in Illegal Prescription Opioid Crackdown"
[21:04:12] <chromas> I think they did the headline wrong. Were they in trouble for their role in the crackdown?
[21:08:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Restore Some Functions in a Pig's Brain Hours After Death - http://sylnt.us - Miracle-Max-the-Wizard
[21:13:32] <Sulla> Illegal crackdown?
[21:14:48] <Sulla> Gettin one of those allergy prick tests. Strawberries and peanuts reacting like direct histamine. Good times!
[21:17:30] <Bytram> !uid
[21:17:30] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7769, owned by Glasstyc
[21:27:13] <Sulla> Who eats pine nuts anyways
[21:27:21] <Sulla> Rich people, that's who
[21:28:19] <Bytram> =g earl gibbons
[21:28:20] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Euell Gibbons - Wikipedia
[21:28:22] <exec> └─ 13Euell Gibbons - Wikipedia
[21:35:37] <Bytram> nap time... laters, I think
[21:35:40] <Bytram> allergies--
[21:35:40] <Bender> karma - allergies: -22
[21:36:12] <Bytram> =submit https://scotthelme.co.uk
[21:36:14] <systemd> Submitting "Let's Encrypt to transition to ISRG root"...
[21:36:16] <exec> └─ 13Let's Encrypt to transition to ISRG root
[21:36:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Let's Encrypt to Transition to ISRG Root" -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:36:39] <exec> └─ 13Let's Encrypt to Transition to ISRG Root: SoylentNews Submission
[21:36:39] <Bytram> =g https://phys.org
[21:36:41] <systemd> https://phys.org - Study finds changing dissolved organic carbon in Maine lakes key to ...
[21:36:42] <exec> └─ 13Study finds changing dissolved organic carbon in Maine lakes key to maintaining drinking water quality
[21:36:43] <exec> └─ 13Study finds changing dissolved organic carbon in Maine lakes key to maintaining drinking water quality
[21:37:40] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[21:37:42] <systemd> Submitting "Study finds changing dissolved organic carbon in Maine lakes key to maintaining drinking water quality"...
[21:37:42] <exec> └─ 13Study finds changing dissolved organic carbon in Maine lakes key to maintaining drinking water quality
[21:37:56] <Bytram> =submit Mathematicians Discover the Perfect Way to Multiply
[21:37:56] <systemd> Submit failed: No title.
[21:38:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Study Finds Changing Dissolved Organic Carbon in Maine Lakes Key to Maintaining Drinking Water Quality" -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:38:06] <exec> └─ 13Study Finds Changing Dissolved Organic Carbon in Maine Lakes Key to Maintaining Drinking Water Quali: SoylentNews Submission
[21:38:44] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[21:38:46] <systemd> Submitting "Elusive molecule, first in Universe, detected in space"...
[21:38:46] <exec> └─ 13Elusive molecule, first in Universe, detected in space
[21:39:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Elusive Molecule, First in Universe, Detected in Space" -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:39:10] <exec> └─ 13Elusive Molecule, First in Universe, Detected in Space: SoylentNews Submission
[21:39:20] <Bytram> =submit https://threatpost.com
[21:39:22] <systemd> Submitting "Bug Allows HIPAA-Protected Malware to Hide Behind Medical Images"...
[21:39:22] <exec> └─ 13Ubiquitous Bug Allows HIPAA-Protected Malware to Hide Behind Medical Images | Threatpost
[21:39:33] <chromas> =submit https://www.cnet.com +https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-to-introduce-porn-age-checks-on-july-15/
[21:39:36] <exec> ├─ 13Porn block: UK to require age checks for adult content as of July 15 - CNET
[21:39:37] <exec> └─ 13UK to introduce porn age-checks on July 15 | ZDNet
[21:39:37] <systemd> Submitting "Porn block: UK to require age checks for adult content as of July 15"...
[21:39:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Bug Allows HIPAA-Protected Malware to Hide Behind Medical Images" -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:39:46] <exec> └─ 13Bug Allows HIPAA-Protected Malware to Hide Behind Medical Images: SoylentNews Submission
[21:39:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Porn Block: UK to Require Age Checks for Adult Content as of July 15" -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:39:59] <chromas> =nick upstart
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[21:40:02] <exec> └─ 13Porn Block: UK to Require Age Checks for Adult Content as of July 15: SoylentNews Submission
[21:42:04] <Bytram> .
[21:42:17] <Bytram> get your [old] game on... https://github.com
[21:42:18] <upstart> ^ 03historicalsource - Overview
[21:42:21] <exec> └─ 13historicalsource (Historical Source) / Repositories · GitHub
[21:43:44] <Bytram> '=submit https://www.quantamagazine.org
[21:43:46] <exec> └─ 13How the EverCrypt Library Creates Hacker-Proof Cryptography | Quanta Magazine
[21:44:27] <Bytram> .
[21:44:34] <Bytram> this time for sure!
[21:44:36] <Bytram> afk
[21:44:56] * chromas rubs off the '
[21:52:29] <Sulla> Dont be a rube, bin that boob!
[22:16:31] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://arstechnica.com from the harder-better-faster-stronger...sharper? dept.
[22:16:33] <upstart> Submitting "HD emulation mod makes “Mode 7” SNES games look like new"...
[22:16:33] <exec> └─ 13HD emulation mod makes “Mode 7” SNES games look like new | Ars Technica
[22:16:36] <AzumaHazuki> <3 <3 <3 <3
[22:16:55] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "HD Emulation Mod Makes “Mode 7” SNES Games Look Like New" -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:17:06] <AzumaHazuki> i had one of these as a kid, back when my family was still 1) lower-middle class and 2) y'know, a family
[22:17:27] <AzumaHazuki> soooo many good memories. FF4, FF6, Chrono Trigger, Rockman X, Super Metroid...
[22:24:00] <Sulla> I feel I missed out because we were not able to afford any of the systems
[22:24:32] <Sulla> Told my kids though they can play anything they want when they beat super pitfall
[22:24:55] <RandomFactor> First use of CRISPR <TO> treat US cancer patients
[22:25:00] <RandomFactor> *mutter*
[22:25:21] <AzumaHazuki> maybe i'm just showing my age here, but i think the games from the late 8 bit through early 32 bit era were the best. or, the best ones are from that era
[22:25:31] <RandomFactor> at least i avoided any 'rice crispr' cracks
[22:25:45] <AzumaHazuki> i didn't touch an NES game until age 17 or so, but fell in love instantly
[22:26:02] <RandomFactor> PC Gaming forever
[22:28:09] * AzumaHazuki emulates, so is doing console gaming on PC =P
[22:28:39] <RandomFactor> As much as it pains me, yes, newer games have been progressively less engaging over time. This is most likely part of becoming an old fuddy duddy no matter how much denial is involved.
[22:30:12] <chromas> Modern games are pretty great though. For example, when I die, I get to wait for the level to be reloaded into memory even though it's already there
[22:30:52] <chromas> or ones that don't, like Borderlands, spend 45 minutes on dying and reviving animation
[22:31:43] <RandomFactor> hmmm, better than sitting there looking at a book for ten minutes and hoping nothing kills you while your mana regenerates I guess
[22:33:00] <Sulla> Play dungeons and dragons these days, saves on electricity
[22:41:02] <RandomFactor> i swear i'm gonna go get 4th or 4.5th or 5th or whatever the hell it is my friends are playing just so i've got the damned rules one of these days.
[22:46:24] <Sulla> Fuck that
[22:46:28] <Sulla> 3.5 or older
[22:46:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Well Can Artificial Intelligence Help End Fake News? - http://sylnt.us - let-me-think-about-it-a-bit
[22:46:57] <chromas> Do the new ones have blockchain yet?
[22:50:38] <FatPhil> Play Zork I!
[22:51:40] <FatPhil> I just watched the Infocom mini documentary that was a bonus with the /Get Lamp/ documentary.
[23:50:20] <AzumaHazuki> it's finally warm enough for me to take the insulator strips down and open the window, air this place out a bit
[23:50:31] <AzumaHazuki> even my purifier can only do so much with no real external airflow....
[23:50:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> we're attempting to compile Zork I at the local LUG.
[23:51:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> AzumaHazuki: yay airing out!
[23:51:28] <AzumaHazuki> making some fresh bone broth too :) I got a good deal on beef feet at the local Asian market
[23:55:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> https://twitter.com
[23:55:51] <upstart> ^ 03Heather ⬢ Flowers on Twitter
[23:55:52] <exec> └─ 13Twitter