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[00:26:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Survey: As Many Americans Claim No Religion as there are Evangelicals, Catholics - http://sylnt.us - thank-you-jesus!
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[01:30:56] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://thehustle.co
[01:30:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:30:58] <exec> └─ 135-star phonies: Inside the fake Amazon review complex
[01:31:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:31:24] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://phys.org
[01:31:24] <MrPlow> got http response code 400
[01:31:26] <exec> └─ 13DIY gravitational waves with 'BlackHoles@Home'
[01:31:38] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://phys.org
[01:31:40] <upstart> Submitting "DIY gravitational waves with 'BlackHoles@Home'"...
[01:31:41] <exec> └─ 13DIY gravitational waves with 'BlackHoles@Home'
[01:31:59] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://motherboard.vice.com
[01:32:01] <exec> └─ 13How Amazon Helped Cops Set Up a Package Theft Sting Operation - Motherboard
[01:32:01] <upstart> Submitting "How Amazon Helped Cops Set Up a Package Theft Sting Operation"...
[01:32:02] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "DIY Gravitational Waves With 'BlackHoles@Home'" -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:32:17] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.wsj.com
[01:32:19] <exec> └─ 13The Secret Trust Scores Companies Use to Judge Us All - WSJ
[01:32:20] <upstart> Submitting "The Secret Trust Scores Companies Use to Judge Us All"...
[01:32:23] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "How Amazon Helped Cops Set Up a Package Theft Sting Operation" -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:32:31] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[01:32:32] <upstart> Submitting "Microsoft: Hackers compromised support agent’s credentials to access customer email accounts"...
[01:32:33] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft: Hackers compromised support agent’s credentials to access customer email accounts – TechCrunch
[01:32:41] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "The Secret Trust Scores Companies Use to Judge Us All" -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:32:46] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[01:32:47] <upstart> Submitting "Law enforcement taps Google's Sensorvault for location data, report says"...
[01:32:48] <exec> └─ 13Law enforcement taps Google's Sensorvault for location data, report says - CNET
[01:32:54] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Microsoft: Hackers Compromised Support Agent’s Credentials to Access Customer Email Accounts" -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:33:09] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Law Enforcement Taps Google's Sensorvault for Location Data, Report Says" -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:37:00] <Bytram> SoyCow1984: Bon Jour!
[01:37:05] <Bytram> Guten Tag!
[01:37:11] <Bytram> ~gday SoyCow1984
[01:37:13] * exec deviously steals a box of toaster leavins from SoyCow1984
[01:37:35] <Bytram> Well! Now that's a crumby fortune!
[01:38:47] <SoyCow1984> ~gday Bytram
[01:38:49] * exec carelessly crossbreeds a cache of Buttcoins with Bytram
[01:39:08] * Bytram would prefer the crumbs
[01:39:17] <Bytram> how ya be?
[01:39:29] <SoyCow1984> doing ok. yourself?
[01:39:51] SoyCow1984 is now known as fnord666_
[01:39:54] <Bytram> okay, thanks. Long-ish day at work, but quite productive, so no complaints!
[01:40:13] <Bytram> hold on a sec
[01:40:34] <Bytram> okaaaaay, maybe 2 or more
[01:40:41] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:40:43] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[01:40:44] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[01:40:50] <Bytram> congrats on over 2900 stories posted!
[01:41:07] <fnord666_> 'thanks
[01:41:18] <fnord666_> gunning for CMN's spot
[01:41:20] <Bytram> less than 100 more and you'll be in 3rd place....
[01:41:22] <Bytram> =)
[01:41:29] <fnord666_> ':)
[01:41:43] <Bytram> I will say the obligatory "You're Welcome" -- but in reality... thank YOU!
[01:42:10] <fnord666_> not exactly slacking off yourself
[01:42:27] <fnord666_> congrats on 4200!!
[01:42:44] <Bytram> in 3 days, I will celebrate the 5th anniversary of my becoming an editor for SN (and of my first story being posted here)
[01:43:01] <Bytram> nah, the 4200 is for JR
[01:43:20] <fnord666_> doh!
[01:43:25] <Bytram> spell my name backwards and you'll see I'm a bit higher than that
[01:43:29] <fnord666_> sorry to short change you there
[01:43:44] <Bytram> not a problem... I've had MUCH worse confusions happen
[01:43:47] <fnord666_> almost at 6900! That's crazy
[01:43:54] <Bytram> yes, I am.
[01:44:00] <fnord666_> =)
[01:44:51] <Bytram> I have at least another 5 more stories queued up atm
[01:45:17] <fnord666_> apparently my anniversary is 11/23
[01:45:19] <Bytram> another 11 stories and I'll have reached 2900 stories over the course of 5 years
[01:45:34] <fnord666_> my first story was posted on 11/23/2016
[01:45:37] <Bytram> sounds like thanksgiving-ish
[01:46:09] <Bytram> you've been moving along at a brisk clip!
[01:46:10] <fnord666_> so 2 1/2 years ago
[01:46:35] <Bytram> yup
[01:46:44] <fnord666_> time sure does fly
[01:47:24] <Bytram> you musta been having fun then!!
[01:47:46] <fnord666_> yup
[01:48:03] <fnord666_> work day today eh?
[01:48:17] <Bytram> yes, it was.
[01:48:28] <fnord666_> ugh
[01:48:34] <Bytram> s'ok
[01:48:42] <Bytram> worked yesterday, too
[01:48:50] <Bytram> one of the joys of working retail
[01:48:53] <fnord666_> off days during the week?
[01:49:15] <Bytram> generally; varies every week
[01:49:24] <fnord666_> makes sense
[01:49:26] <Bytram> shifts change, too.
[01:49:47] <Bytram> some days I'm in 1 hour before the place opens; others until 1/2 hour after it closes.
[01:50:13] <Bytram> is real fun when the open-the-store shift follows the close-the-store shife... can you say "clopen"
[01:50:34] <fnord666_> just curl up in the corner for the evening
[01:50:54] <Bytram> not so bad this time of year, but during the holidays, with extended hours, it can get... extreme
[01:51:28] <Bytram> so, I assume your health has improved?
[01:51:46] <fnord666_> getting there, yes. thanks for asking
[01:52:24] <Bytram> time takes... time. :/
[01:52:35] <fnord666_> it does, yes.
[01:52:45] <Bytram> here's hoping for a monitonically improving path for you
[01:53:11] <fnord666_> Thanks
[01:53:12] <Bytram> =g monotonically
[01:53:13] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Monotonic function - Wikipedia
[01:53:49] <fnord666_> =)
[01:54:59] <fnord666_> Getting ready to close on the sale of Dad's house at the end of the month.
[01:56:15] <fnord666_> So that's good as well
[01:56:17] <Bytram> absolutely the best wishes to you for a successful outcome on that.
[01:56:42] <fnord666_> thanks.
[01:57:35] <Bytram> definitely would like to stay and chat lnger, but I just about fell asleep at the kbd. Think it's a sign I should head to bed.
[01:57:43] <Bytram> *longer
[01:58:01] <fnord666_> no problem. Thanks for the chat and the support!
[01:58:19] <fnord666_> pleasant dreams and get some sleep
[01:58:30] <fnord666_> ~gnight Bytram
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[01:58:57] <Bytram> heh... that is the one and only nick I have blocked on IRC!
[01:59:27] <Bytram> thanks kind sir, much appreciate the suggestion. I think I will do just that.
[01:59:45] <Bytram> =g Bedtime for Bonzo
[01:59:46] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Bedtime for Bonzo - Wikipedia
[01:59:48] <fnord666_> chat with you later.
[02:00:00] <Bytram> looking forward to it!
[02:00:10] <Bytram> have a rgeat night.
[02:00:15] <fnord666_> you too
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[02:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oil-Eating Bacteria has Been Discovered in the Deepest Part of the Ocean - http://sylnt.us - science
[03:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lockheed Martin Proposes Streamlined Lunar Gateway for 2024 Manned Lunar Landing - http://sylnt.us - progress?
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[05:26:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DETOUR Bill Aims to Reign in Deceptive Social Media Practices - http://sylnt.us - click-here-to-agree-and-continue
[06:17:05] <Sulla> Azumahazuki how are your premonitions doing? Worse/better?
[06:17:49] <AzumaHazuki> bouncing all over the place. probabilities are shifting on an hourly basis. i believe i managed to tilt them somewhat in my favor
[06:19:55] <Sulla> That's good to hear because premonitions are messed up. I have for two years had the occasional feeling of dread of "gonna have a heart attack" only to be told by doctors that it's not going to happen. So I figure whatever you must be going through is hundreds of times worse
[06:28:19] <AzumaHazuki> i don't know what's going on or how i'm doing what i'm doing, only that it's been going on since early childhood
[06:29:11] <AzumaHazuki> it feels, for lack of a better way of describing this, like i'm a little defocused in spacetime. everything feels a little foggy, and i swear it's like i can pick up on possibilities before their wavefunctions collapse
[06:56:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Israel Will Build Another Lunar Lander - http://sylnt.us - little-country,-big-dreams
[07:53:28] <chromas> I remember an old gwbasic game where you land a LEM by toggling its thrusters using limited fuel
[07:54:03] * chromas smells a smartphone HD reboot
[07:55:06] <chromas> I'd like to see a movie adaptation of GORILLAS.BAS
[08:09:29] <FatPhil> I think that predates gwbasic
[08:10:15] <FatPhil> I also think every home computer had a version - it must have been one of the most popular games ever
[08:29:41] <chromas> gorillas or lem? Probably gorillas
[08:30:00] * chromas hucks exploding bananas around the channel
[08:37:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Metasurface Uses Sunlight to Clear Foggy Glass - http://sylnt.us - I-see-what-you-did-there-but-my-windows-fog-at-night
[08:41:02] <boru> That headline is a bit of a misnomer. It's not a photonic effect.
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[09:43:30] <chromas> rDT and aristarchus submitted the same story. The wave function is collapsing
[09:46:28] <chromas> I should use FatPhil's cloud photo link as the dept in the next cloud story
[09:58:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 5-Star Phonies: Inside the Fake Amazon Review Complex - http://sylnt.us - ★★★★★☆☆
[10:45:25] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:45:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4718
[10:47:50] <Bytram> chromas: I recall playing a lander game written in basic... in the early 1970s
[10:48:00] <Bytram> =g game lander basic
[10:48:01] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org(video_game_genre) - Lunar Lander (video game genre) - Wikipedia
[10:49:13] <Bytram> ^^^ "Lunar was converted to BASIC by David H. Ahl, who included all three versions in his 1973 101 BASIC Computer Games..."
[10:55:10] <Bytram> https://www.atariarchives.org
[10:55:11] <upstart> ^ 03BASIC Computer Games: Lunar LEM Rocket
[10:55:13] <exec> └─ 13BASIC Computer Games: Lunar LEM Rocket
[10:59:20] <Bytram> ^^^ http://www.moorecad.com
[11:01:06] <Bytram> there ya go! Just copy/paste that into a BASIC interpreter/compiler and you can play lunar lander in all its ASCII (UPPERCASE ONLY) goodness!
[11:02:53] <Bytram> FYI, got there from this page which shows a picture of the very first terminal I ever used (ASR-33 Teletype): http://www.moorecad.com
[11:02:54] <upstart> ^ 03basichome
[11:02:55] <exec> └─ 13basichome
[11:05:14] <Bytram> scroll down a bit and there are zip files that can be downloaded that it claims to contain a copy of all the games on that page -- original as well as ported to work under GW-Basic / QBASIC.
[11:36:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DIY Gravitational Waves With 'BlackHoles@Home' - http://sylnt.us - RTX-On
[12:13:47] <FatPhil> https://thehardtimes.net
[12:13:48] <upstart> ^ 03Opinion: Listen Up Fuckfaces, I'll Write Whenever The Goddamn Fuck I Want To
[12:13:49] <exec> └─ 13Opinion: Listen Up Fuckfaces, I'll Write Whenever The Goddamn Fuck I Want To
[12:55:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Will Spend $500 Million or More on Games for Apple Arcade (No Android Allowed) - http://sylnt.us - epic
[13:14:37] <Bytram> break time
[13:14:39] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:14:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4719
[13:18:28] <FatPhil> coffee++
[13:18:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4720
[13:18:35] <boru> coffee++
[13:18:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4721
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[14:16:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Law Enforcement Taps Google's Sensorvault for Location Data, Report Says - http://sylnt.us - it's-okay;-he-was-released-after-a-week
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[15:58:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Amazon Helped Cops Set Up a Package Theft Sting Operation - http://sylnt.us - soylentnews-special-investigations-bureau
[17:35:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 996.ICU: Chinese Activists Use GitHub to Organize & Protest - http://sylnt.us - banned-in-996-hours
[17:37:40] <Sulla> Waiting til the last day to pay my state taxes paid off. When I first filed they said I would get a refund of 500, turbotax f'd u
[17:37:59] <Sulla> Up and rejected it, instead saying I owed 500 and that I should hurry and refile
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[17:38:07] <Sulla> Today refined and only owned 275
[17:38:10] <Sulla> Take that oregon
[17:40:32] <FatPhil> Sulla: have you seen the /Adam Ruins Everything/ vids on tax payment & tax software?
[17:40:49] <Sulla> I have not
[17:41:01] <FatPhil> As a foreigner I kinda half laughed and half cringed.
[17:41:30] <Sulla> What I normally do each year is do my taxes by hand, then do them in TurboTax, then do them on taxact, I then submit whoever comes in lower
[17:42:11] <FatPhil> Nice one - I hope it's worth the effort!
[17:42:13] <Sulla> I'm a huge supporter of a flat tax of 10-15% of income with no deductions or loopholes
[17:42:13] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[17:42:14] <upstart> ^ 03The Real Reason Taxes Suck (And Why They Don't Have To)
[17:42:17] <exec> └─ 13The Real Reason Taxes Suck (And Why They Don't Have To) - YouTube
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[17:42:49] <FatPhil> With you on that - we're pretty much that here, but at 21%.
[17:43:21] <FatPhil> however, you might be paying several different layers, federal / state / whatever?
[17:43:48] <Sulla> Yeah. I'm in a Democrat state so high state taxes
[17:44:50] <FatPhil> We just complicated things, to may annoyance. It used to be X * 0% + (income - X) * 21%
[17:45:15] <FatPhil> now X is a variable, depending on income X-|
[17:45:53] <FatPhil> I need to pop into gnuplot and see what the curve actually looks like now.
[17:46:45] <FatPhil> I suspect it's 3 straight lines now, rather than 2.
[17:47:41] <FatPhil> from the equation, I've persuaded myself that it's monotonic, at least, which is what matters most
[17:48:09] <Sulla> My ideal tax system would be a federal tax of 10% for maintaining a smaller military for self defense, a larger NASA, foreign trade deals, border protection. Then high state taxes, upwards of 20% as necessary, for roads and healthcare
[17:48:12] <Sulla> It's all insanity
[17:48:19] <FatPhil> I think, however, that it's now neither concave up, nor concave down, it's level then steep then shallow
[17:49:03] <FatPhil> That's way way way too sensible, it will never catch on!
[17:49:50] <Sulla> The US had this weird thing where taxes would slowly crawl up to 25% when someone makes 332k/year then jump to 35% at 333k to 499k, then drop to 25% again
[17:50:19] <Sulla> Probably won't effect me, at least not in the next seven years, but is odd
[17:50:41] <Sulla> I'm very small government when it comes to federal, but willing to support big government local
[17:51:08] <FatPhil> Makes sense.
[17:51:17] <FatPhil> I'm similar WRT the EU.
[17:52:19] <Sulla> Oh good Notre Dame on fire
[17:52:27] <Sulla> Wonder who could be behind this
[17:54:32] <FatPhil> 'could be linked to renovation work.'
[17:54:41] <FatPhil> 'Last year, the Catholic Church in France launched an urgent appeal for funds to save the cathedral, which was starting to crumble.'
[17:54:47] <FatPhil> Insurance fraud!
[17:55:01] <Sulla> Nice, always a good racket
[17:55:50] <FatPhil> Can I wear a "Je Suis Dame" t-shirt?
[17:56:47] <Sulla> Hah
[19:17:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. National 5G Network Plans Killed Off, Funds Promised for Rural Broadband - http://sylnt.us - Public-Airwaves
[19:52:58] <FatPhil> To be honest, I actually expect Faux News[sic] to show a video of Palestinians or Syrians, or whoever they want to bomb tomorrow, celebrating in the street at the news of the fire.
[20:26:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Breaking News: Notre Dame Cathedral - Spire and Roof collapses as fire rages - http://sylnt.us - they-don't-build-them-like-they-used-to
[20:43:00] <chromas> And CNN will blame Trump ;)
[20:56:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Huawei Open to Selling 5G Modems to Apple - http://sylnt.us - All-the-better-to-hear-you-with
[21:35:49] <Sulla> Well ISIS has done two attempted bombings In three years
[21:35:57] <Sulla> Of notre dame
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[22:00:44] <Sulla> So on the seeing the earth from the dark side of the moon. If I take two pencils and tie them six inches apart with string. With one stationary and the other orbiting. If I draw a mark on a pencil hex facing away from the stationary pencil, it will never face the stationary pencil because the moon does not rotate
[22:04:23] <FatPhil> I hate distruction of ancient monuments, but I'm probably twice as pissed off by Taliban destruction of 1700-year-old Buddhas than I am of 850-year-old churches.
[22:04:47] <Sulla> 1000% agreed
[22:04:59] <FatPhil> However, if ISIS claim ND, then it might be a call to arms. Everyone ignored the Buddhas because it's "over there" and "not ours"
[22:05:01] <Sulla> Or like palyrma
[22:05:27] <Sulla> Destroying 10k year old "cities"
[22:05:35] <Sulla> Because "heathen monuments"
[22:06:24] <Sulla> https://en.m.wikipedia.org
[22:06:25] <upstart> ^ 03Destruction of cultural heritage by ISIL - Wikipedia
[22:06:26] <exec> └─ 13Destruction of cultural heritage by ISIL - Wikipedia
[22:07:04] <Sulla> >In May 2014, ISIL members smashed a 3,000-year-old neo-Assyrian statue from Tel Ajaja.[37] Later reports indicated that over 40% of the artifacts at Tel Ajaja (Saddikanni) were looted by ISIS.[38]
[22:07:20] <FatPhil> more recently, yes, that's tragic.
[22:07:52] <FatPhil> but "over there" and "not ours", so I'll pour myself another glass of wine.
[22:09:01] <Sulla> >ISIL has burned or stolen collections of books and papers from various locations, including the Central Library of Mosul (which they rigged with explosives and burned down),[70] the library at the University of Mosul, a Sunni Muslim library, a 265-year-old Latin Church and Monastery of the Dominican Fathers, and the Mosul Museum Library. Some destroyed or stolen works date back to 5000 BC and include "Iraq newspapers dating to the earl
[22:09:01] <Sulla> 20th century, maps and books from the Ottoman Empire, and book collections contributed by about 100 of Mosul’s establishment families." The stated goal is to destroy all non-Islamic books.
[22:09:19] <Sulla> Insanity
[22:09:38] <FatPhil> The only word for it.
[22:09:54] <Sulla> Really need to give iran blanket control of the region
[22:10:11] <FatPhil> They're saner.
[22:10:16] <Sulla> In exchange for preserving historical artifacts
[22:10:36] <FatPhil> But remind me the last time the west drawing borders in the middle east worked out well.
[22:10:37] <Sulla> Iran is a natural ally in the region
[22:10:57] <FatPhil> They're enemy of my enemy, nothing more.
[22:11:28] <Sulla> Ottoman Empire Emperor said if we broke up the empire and did not install a new one over whole region at end of WW1 this would be the result
[22:11:55] <FatPhil> we went chop chop chop
[22:12:11] <Sulla> I have real problems with religion, but Christians seem pretty tame these days and aren't messing things up too bad
[22:12:25] <Sulla> Islam needs a renaissance
[22:12:32] <Sulla> Iran probably only hope
[22:12:33] <FatPhil> Mostly agree. The louder US sects are still pretty scary.
[22:12:43] <Sulla> Agreed
[22:13:23] <Sulla> Things must be bad for Buddhists and Hindus to want to ethnically cleanse
[22:13:43] <Sulla> Modi is going full insane on that lately
[22:13:50] <FatPhil> Maybe it needs an inquisition first, to thin down both sides!
[22:14:04] <Sulla> Could work
[22:15:01] <FatPhil> who was it who said ~ "if the Germans are winning, back the Russians, if the Russians are winning, back the Germans"
[22:15:10] <FatPhil> FDR?
[22:15:44] <Sulla> Not sure on the exact
[22:15:54] <Sulla> Ike wasn't sure who to support - eisenhower
[22:16:12] <Sulla> He was considering letting the Russians and Germans break eachother then rolling all the way to Moscow
[22:16:25] <Sulla> But FDR was not a fan
[22:16:42] <FatPhil> That fits with the quote, certainly.
[22:16:46] <Sulla> Ike wanted to only fight the one war instead of postponing a second
[22:17:45] <FatPhil> Fighting one finite one, too. Perpetual war is the ultimate insanity.
[22:18:16] <Sulla> Interesting to think about. Had he done that and still won the presidency, we would likely not have the military industrial complex
[22:18:29] <Sulla> That he tolerated because of fears of communism
[22:18:54] <Sulla> Little unrelated to topic at hand, but I regard Ike as best president in past hundred years at a minimum
[22:20:06] <FatPhil> What he said at the end of his presidency makes me think that's likely to be true.
[22:20:59] <FatPhil> He was right, and everyone ignored him, and either were swept up or simply happily played their role.
[22:21:03] <Sulla> High taxes, wasn't bought and paid for, strong will, and ended the Korean war
[22:21:40] <Sulla> Kennedy may have opposed it, but didn't last long
[22:22:02] <Sulla> Johnson was probably the most corrupt politician since McKinney
[22:22:33] <FatPhil> Yeah, what a dick
[22:22:39] <Sulla> I have a lot of fondness for Nixon, but his paranoia was his downfall
[22:23:08] <FatPhil> It's funny, some can do a bunch of good stuff, but fuck up right royally too.
[22:23:15] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:23:29] <Sulla> My personal take from listening to 80% of his Whitehouse recordings
[22:24:07] <FatPhil> From a too-young-at-the-time-to-really-know, I'd say that Carter was pretty OK as he did *almost nothing*, so not much wrong.
[22:24:09] <Sulla> The RNC decided they wanted to insure the election, Nixon found out later and refused to admit the party made a decision he did not approve of, and decided to take the fall rather than be seen as weak
[22:24:22] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:24:25] <Sulla> Less is more
[22:25:16] <Sulla> Reagan was honest I think, but his people were not
[22:25:43] <Sulla> Bush 1 was competent as hell but not necessarily for our benefit
[22:25:53] <FatPhil> Remind me what "change" I was supposed to believe in with Obama?
[22:26:23] <Sulla> Not Bush?
[22:26:37] <FatPhil> I have Palestinian (arab, but christian) relatives, and they were reasonably happy with Bush 1.
[22:26:49] <FatPhil> Ah, yes, being not bush was a significant change.
[22:27:04] <FatPhil> Alas, it's not the presidents that make all the policies.
[22:27:14] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:27:31] <Sulla> Thank the Lord McCain is gone
[22:27:58] <FatPhil> Have you seen /Vice/? I'm thinking of borrowing it from the Swedish library.
[22:29:04] <FatPhil> I'm not sure McCain was any worse than some of the historical NeoCon hawks.
[22:30:52] <FatPhil> We've still got Bombton...
[22:31:54] <Sulla> Well, I dont have pictures of any presidents with ISIL members in Turkey like I have of mccain
[22:31:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> you mean mister "I wear a caterpillar where my moustache ought to be"?
[22:32:07] <Sulla> Not seen vice, no time
[22:34:01] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd - a slug, surely? https://www.youtube.com
[22:34:03] <upstart> ^ 03Blackadder - Major Star - Baldrick as Charlie Chaplin
[22:34:04] <exec> └─ 13Blackadder - Major Star - Baldrick as Charlie Chaplin - YouTube
[22:34:58] <Sulla> What year is Blackadder from?
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[22:38:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RNA Interference Therapy "Givosiran" Shows Promise for Treatment of Porphyria - http://sylnt.us - YADIDNKE-Yet-Another-Disease-I-Did-Not-Know-Existed
[22:38:45] <FatPhil> Blackadder Goes Forth is the fourth and final series of the BBC sitcom Blackadder, written by Richard Curtis and Ben Elton, which aired from 28 September to 2 November 1989 on BBC One.
[22:40:07] * TheMightyBuzzard fucking hates microsoft in fun new ways today
[22:40:20] <FatPhil> The original was from 1983, I barely remember it any better than I remember being groped by Buggs Bunny during my trip to Disneyland.
[22:40:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: show us on the model computer how microsoft hurt you
[22:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the butt
[22:41:05] <FatPhil> A kick right in the software
[22:41:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> what what
[22:42:50] <FatPhil> he didn't protect his mouse balls
[22:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR's girl child has a win10 doodad with 24GB of drive space. it kept storing so much bullshit in c:\recovery\whatever\bullshit that it couldn't update. so i fixed that. and it updated. and the update broke the keyboard and mouse.
[22:43:32] <FatPhil> progress!
[22:43:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> towards linux, yep
[22:44:15] <Sulla> I wish I was willing to spend the time doing linux
[22:44:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just got a new machine...Win 8.1 preloaded...gonna break out the big USB stick and a copy of CloneZilla so I can preserve the existing state of the HDD before I load Linux on it.
[22:44:26] <Sulla> Instead of being a worthless win7 slave
[22:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't spend time doing it and i run a gentoo-based distro
[22:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i know...
[22:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> boot from usb and clone the drive then install linux and put the shit she actually cares about back, pretty much just her firefox profile.
[22:46:36] <Sulla> Put winxp on an SD card and hard write protect it
[22:47:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> I came across my Win95 and Win98 a couple of days ago...want me to image them and upload them somewhere?
[22:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit no. that girl does nothing that don't require a network connection. i ain't putting an os that dated on anything connected to you fuckers.
[22:48:02] <FatPhil> hard write protect isn't hard write protect, just for reference.
[22:48:06] <FatPhil> No doesn't mean no.
[22:48:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well of course. no means i need two more drinks.
[22:49:08] <FatPhil> or just 2 sips: http://www.youtube.com
[22:49:10] <upstart> ^ 03Chalmers Reserve Event Wine - SNL ( https://www.youtube.com )
[22:49:11] <exec> └─ 13Chalmers Reserve Event Wine - SNL - YouTube
[22:56:44] <Sulla> I want a SN civ IV mail game
[23:01:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> get writing
[23:02:06] <Sulla> Well we can just play by mail, no writing required
[23:02:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can do it entirely in bash if you like. it ain't hard to send mail from bash scripts.
[23:02:22] <Sulla> Is a game function
[23:03:27] <Sulla> Or do a play by mail freeciv
[23:03:45] <Sulla> Then sometime in eight years someone will win bragging rights
[23:04:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd mean i have to keep the mail daemon working though. can't be having with that.
[23:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, need nicotine and gotta check the State of the Carrots.
[23:08:05] <Sulla> Nicotine++
[23:08:05] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 708
[23:10:48] <FatPhil> What's the Address of the State of the Carrots?
[23:13:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> still too crunchy. i blame the progtards
[23:13:57] * TheMightyBuzzard is making roast beast
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[23:17:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck it. ima shoot guys in the face until the carrots get done.
[23:19:27] <chromas> Shooty McFace
[23:29:23] <Sulla> Was going to make some curry tonight but the wife decided we are having "pigs in a blanket" - hotdogs inside some sort of bread, like a corndog but less good because no cornbread
[23:29:55] <chromas> make the curry sauce and pour it over the hotdogs
[23:30:00] <fyngyrz> "Shooty McShootface"
[23:30:07] <fyngyrz> get it right
[23:30:38] <fyngyrz> well, we sure think it is
[23:30:43] <fyngyrz> oops, wrong window :)
[23:38:09] <Sulla> Chromas++
[23:38:09] <Bender> karma - chromas: 254
[23:39:08] <Sulla> If three ingredients make a burrito can you make a egg, tortilla, bacon, wrap it in a tortilla and make a burrito?
[23:40:13] <chromas> Breakfast burrito?
[23:40:28] <chromas> I'd argue that it needs some cheese and maybe hotsauce
[23:41:27] <Sulla> Sacred burrito law requires three ingredients, trying to figure out if you can, in a pinch, put tortilla inside a burrito to meet the rule
[23:42:08] <chromas> Nested burritos? I'll allow it!
[23:42:46] <chromas> (mills_lane.mp4)