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[22:38:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Open Sources its Windows Calculator - http://sylnt.us - 5318008
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[20:56:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cookie Walls Don’t Comply with GDPR, Says Dutch DPA - http://sylnt.us - cookie-cutter
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[19:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 59 Craft Breweries Tell EPA Dirty Water Proposal Threatens Key Ingredient: Water - http://sylnt.us - water?-like-out-the-toilet?
[18:41:10] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:40:45] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:40:45] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.aljazeera.com
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[18:06:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk's Security Clearance Reportedly Under Review Due to Pot Use - http://sylnt.us - didn't-inhale
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[17:33:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't really feel like watching that, so I'll just ask: Does hearing it in context make it better, or worse?
[17:14:56] <upstart> ^ 03Ray Comfort on the Banana, in context [HQ] ( https://www.youtube.com )
[17:14:55] <FatPhil> http://www.youtube.com
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[16:42:00] <Bender> karma - rain: 3
[16:42:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> rain++
[16:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i also like naps. i think i'll take one now in fact.
[16:38:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like my isp.
[16:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, when i got here to tn four years ago, we signed up for a 25Mbps internet package. since then our isp doubled our speed twice without price increase, lowered the price once, and is about to 10x our speed without price increase. also, no data caps either hard or soft and i've never heard a word from them about how i use my connection.
[16:31:58] <FatPhil> Superhero "Captain Marvel" = I prepare menstrual havoc! (anagram)
[16:25:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smoke-Tainted Wine? - http://sylnt.us - fill-up-my-glass!
[16:02:15] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 695
[16:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[16:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[16:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> like that
[16:01:53] <exec> added to beverages
[16:01:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >beverage farticles
[16:01:18] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[15:57:40] <FatPhil> How do I add a noun to the gdaybot? Can you guess what noun I want to add...
[15:57:03] * FatPhil patents Brillo Tampons for International Women's Day
[15:52:36] <FatPhil> I did see deadpool, but don't remember the reference. deadpool was a bit throwaway.
[15:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i will never view IWD the same again after watching deadpool.
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[15:45:22] <FatPhil> Or is it better as "Lady's ... : man" ?
[15:44:22] <FatPhil> I'm good with words, though :)
[15:44:15] <FatPhil> International Women's Day = Man's new orientation: lady (anagram)
[15:42:45] <FatPhil> :(
[15:42:42] <FatPhil> I have a pedantic attention to detail, but absolutely no hand coordination skills. I can't make shit with shit.
[15:29:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i can figure out the proper set of jigs i can make most anything. getting them perfectly dialed in can take a lot of scrap wood though.
[15:28:37] <Fnord666_> But I respect the craftsmanship
[15:27:39] <Fnord666_> I hear ya TMB. I love looking at some of the beautiful Japanese joinery but I just don't have the patience
[15:26:57] <Fnord666_> attention to detail
[15:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ain't artistic about joinery but a few ocd tendencies and some bloody-minded stubbornness is a good substitute
[15:25:26] <Runaway1956> I always had 5 thumbs when it came to wire brads and stuff
[15:24:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> if a butt joint can hold up like that, anything with some actual structure to the joint is going to be unbeatable by fasteners.
[15:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, joinery ain't got no place for slop
[15:23:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> shop teacher once glued two 2x4 scraps end to end and had us all try to break the joint the next day. nobody could.
[15:23:09] <Runaway1956> Takes awhile to charge a pile of 18650 batteries - got 16 new ones, and none of them are charged more than about 25%
[15:23:08] <Fnord666_> Your tools do need to be dialed in to get nice joints though (or if you like hand fitting)
[15:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> glue joints are far stronger and prettier if you're good at joinery.
[15:22:03] <Fnord666_> gotcha
[15:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> or dowels or rabbits or dadoes or however i'm feeling like doing joinery that day
[15:21:14] <Fnord666_> Biscuits?
[15:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to like them for cabinetry back in the day but now i make them without metal except for the hinges/handles and screws thereof.
[15:19:36] <Fnord666_> yup. Love finish nailers once they're set correctly
[15:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i kinda like the finish nailers though. you don't screw up your trim like you can with a hammer.
[15:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bender, they are not. i blew the shit out of them wholesale back in the 80s.
[15:17:44] <Runaway1956> I used to drive 16d in three hits - some guys drove them in two
[15:17:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asteroids Are Much Harder To Destroy Than Scientists Originally Thought - http://sylnt.us - don't-believe-the-movies
[15:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could drive roofing nails all day long without getting so much as a twinge in my hand.
[15:17:10] <Runaway1956> nods
[15:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, nailguns for roofing are pointless. it only takes two hits with a hammer to sink a roofing nail. one to set and one to drive.
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[15:15:34] <cmn32480> agreed
[15:15:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, yeah, this is why you hide the beer until the compressor has been turned off and emptied for the day.
[15:15:15] <Runaway1956> they were pure shit back then
[15:15:09] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh - when I was in roofing, I could tell you immediately after a bad storm which houses had staples in the roof
[15:14:57] <cmn32480> and when you take the safety off it helps keep the kids in line
[15:14:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> not fantastic but good enough for framing.
[15:14:54] <SoyCow1984> so they finally nail it?
[15:14:48] <fyngyrz> the trick is to do it well, without kicking your own ass. Not fast. Fast is a lot more likely to == shitty
[15:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've been serviceable since i was in my 20s.
[15:14:33] <Runaway1956> NOW you can get barbed stabples, and coated staples
[15:14:31] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Sorry Amazon: Philadelphia Bans Cashless Stores" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[15:14:18] <Runaway1956> but they've improved over the years
[15:14:12] <Runaway1956> There was a time when I'd have shot anyone suggesting a nailgun
[15:14:09] <upstart> Submitting "Sorry Amazon: Philadelphia bans cashless stores"... Feel free to submit something while I wait for the obligatory 20-second delay.
[15:14:08] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://arstechnica.com
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[15:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> and nailguns are way, way faster than any sort of screw.
[15:13:48] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 13
[15:13:48] <fyngyrz> Runaway1956++
[15:13:37] <fyngyrz> neither do several sets of rotated power screwdrivers. :)
[15:13:36] <Runaway1956> Hammerers sometimes run out of juice though.
[15:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> fyngyrz, hammers don't run out of batteries.
[15:13:17] <Runaway1956> Whip it good!
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[15:13:00] <fyngyrz> there is no right nail. Nails are buggy whips
[15:12:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, we looked like hell for some mexicans. really, really, really could have used half a dozen of them yesterday. found zero.
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[15:12:42] <fyngyrz> the electrical stuff uses square drives, it's okay
[15:12:39] <Runaway1956> Old carpenter here, fyngyrz, I like nails - you gotta use the right nail for the job
[15:12:25] <fyngyrz> yeah, the star is better, but square is better than any kind of bloody slot
[15:12:05] <pinchy> isnt torx the star pattern? i remember theres one drywall screw with a square drive thats pretty good
[15:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, most of the disciples were fishermen. this leads us to the obvious conclusion that god is too. he must be. he made fish and made them delicious. so it's just solidarity.
[15:11:55] <Runaway1956> Shoulda hired a Mexican to build a Mexican drain, never hire a Frenchman
[15:11:52] <fyngyrz> another thing... "swinging a hammer" < "using a power screwdriver"
[15:11:22] <fyngyrz> I will never, ever use a nail again. :)
[15:11:21] <Runaway1956> Damned French can't even build a proper drain
[15:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoring up the walls of the french drain trench this week. tn ground is only technically dirt. it more closely resembles soup.
[15:10:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> CHECKMATE CHRISTIANS.
[15:10:37] <fyngyrz> exactly, Runaway
[15:10:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> the fact that the church didn't burn down around him the moment that TheMightyBuzzard walked in is proof that god doesn't exist.
[15:10:25] <fyngyrz> I built this entire interior, and my deck (which is huge) with torx... the results have been awesome
[15:10:05] <Runaway1956> One does not replace coated nails, LOL
[15:09:38] <fyngyrz> no, they aren't because replacing them, or trying to tighten them, is bullshit
[15:09:32] <pinchy> whats tmb hammering on? that old church he tried to de-christianize?
[15:09:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't have done it by hand if i could get a drill to fit where i needed it though
[15:09:19] <Runaway1956> Coated nails are almost as good as screws most places
[15:09:16] <Bender> karma - powertools: 1
[15:09:16] <fyngyrz> powertools++
[15:09:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin truth
[15:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> fyngyrz, got those too. sometimes a nail serves better though.
[15:08:56] <fyngyrz> handscrewign ANUYTHING --
[15:08:44] <fyngyrz> also
[15:08:41] <Runaway1956> There's no expendable crew member they can eat when they runout of foor
[15:08:38] <Bender> karma - torxheadscrews: 1
[15:08:38] <fyngyrz> torxheadscrews++
[15:08:33] <Bender> karma - nails: -1
[15:08:33] <fyngyrz> nails--
[15:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> what picture?
[15:08:25] <Runaway1956> Oh, wait, don't tell me!
[15:07:51] <Runaway1956> What's missing? An Australian drop bear?
[15:07:27] <pinchy> that nasa crew isnt diverse enuf
[15:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> so my early 40s ass has been putting in 8h days of hard, nonstop, manual labor.
[15:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> you and me both. there is no day labor in TN though. you go down to a home depot parking lot and the only things there are cars and shopping carts.
[15:04:33] <Runaway1956> I put a hydraulic hose in a machine two nights ago, 1 1/4" hose, 39 inches long - and it whipped my ass.
[15:03:42] <Runaway1956> I'm getting too old for that shit - nowadays I toss a few dollars at some kid. Twenty minutes of hard labor, and I'm done in.
[15:02:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> also had to hand-turn wood screws in and shovels to work yesterday too
[15:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, i have a most excellent hammer. i even know how best to swing it. i just had an absurd amount of nails that needed hitting.
[15:01:05] <Runaway1956> Doctor Runaway recommends quinine for muscle cramps. Gin and tonic, or just bitter assed tonic water, or quinine pills, still available on the interwebs if you search.
[14:56:00] <Runaway1956> FFS Buzzard, invest in a good hammer, like an Estwing
[14:21:42] <cmn32480> touche
[14:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, take your pick. we're a rioty bunch no matter the venue.
[13:36:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Origin and Species: Fighting Illegal Logging With Science - http://sylnt.us - scanning-logs
[13:02:17] * FatPhil sniffs more glue whilst pondering a solution
[13:02:04] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - riots here or on the site?
[13:02:03] <FatPhil> oh, shit, stuff that's not supposed to be stuck together is now stuck together
[13:01:40] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off for caffeine and nicotine top-offs
[12:59:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus my right hand's one big knot of visibly swollen, overused muscle from all the hammers and saws and such like yesterday. can't currently make a fist and mousing is annoyingly painful.
[12:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i won't be around much today either. lot of tail chasing and errands need took care of while they can be.
[12:53:18] <Bytram> may or may not make it back before heading to work.
[12:52:59] <Bytram> afk
[12:52:45] <upstart> ^ 03| NASA ( https://www.nasa.gov )
[12:52:44] <Bytram> https://www.nasa.gov
[12:52:32] <Bytram> ugh
[12:52:28] <Bytram> See aalso: comment
[12:51:21] <upstart> ^ 03NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
[12:51:20] <Bytram> try here: https://www.youtube.com
[12:51:00] <Bytram> BTW, Demo-1 SpaceX landing should be live atm
[12:50:22] <Bytram> granted, I think it is only at 32 colors??
[12:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> play the mental image again with Stayin Alive as soundtrack.
[12:50:04] * Bytram lobs a gallon of brain bleach too cmn32480
[12:49:57] <cmn32480> wow
[12:49:45] <Bytram> cmn32480: FYI: that little core duo can somehow drive my UHD TV at 2200x1200 !!
[12:49:36] * cmn32480 now wishes he had waited about another 10 seconds... the brain tatoo of bytram sauntering off to the showers swinnging his towel is just stuck... and disturbing
[12:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, everybody. we've been having entirely too few tpyos. folks are getting ready to riot.
[12:48:51] * Bytram saunters off to the showers; mission accomplished with a chuckling buzzard
[12:48:41] * cmn32480 is wondering who he pissed off
[12:48:26] <Bender> karma - puns: 5
[12:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> puns++
[12:48:22] * exec socialistically farts beach bucket of Walla Walla sweet onions at FatPhil
[12:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[12:48:19] <Bytram> we wouldn't want you getting board, now wood we?
[12:48:17] * exec almost incoherently merges a sack of cinnamon rolls with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:15] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:13] <Bytram> uggh
[12:48:07] <Bytram> ewwww
[12:48:03] <Bytram> we wouldn't you getting board, now wood we?
[12:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> like missing electrolytes cramps? bananananana fix it right up
[12:47:56] * FatPhil sniffs more glue (it's repairing stuff chores day)
[12:47:36] <Bytram> j/me just found out he has been scheduled to work a monday in the middle of his vacation (03/20 - 03/30) Grrrr.
[12:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're okay, if weak, today but i'd be carrying lumber and have to stop and take a knee or fall down and drop boards on myself.
[12:46:50] <Bytram> no. fun. at. all.
[12:46:17] <Bytram> funny that -- just started getting leg cramps in my thighs a couple days ago; until then had only been in feet or calves
[12:45:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun day. got to experience muscle failure in my thighs repeatedly the last couple hours. didn't even manage that in boot camp.
[12:45:20] <Bytram> ;)
[12:45:20] * Bytram looks for a wireless kbd & mouse for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:44:26] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> comfy chair not computer chair
[12:44:15] <Bytram> understood -- being human is not a character defect!
[12:43:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry i couldn't make it in yesterday evening. got done at the church and flopped down in the chair, only moving to go smoke.
[12:43:38] <Bytram> just in time
[12:43:34] * Bytram opens his umbrella
[12:43:24] * exec arrogantly hurls a trainload of peach juice at Bytram
[12:43:23] <Bytram> keep it clean!
[12:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:43:11] * exec quietly corrupts handbag of recycled toilet paper with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:43:09] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:42:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4648
[12:42:46] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:41:15] <Bender> karma - excedrin: 1
[12:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> excedrin++
[12:40:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4647
[12:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:40:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4646
[12:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:40:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4645
[12:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:40:44] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:40:44] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[12:38:23] <Bytram> LOL
[12:38:17] <Bytram> oh. nvm
[12:38:10] * Bytram once worked at a startup doing a special project for FIA; had press pass access at several race venues... Nuburgring, Silverstone, Monza
[12:37:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> And Bytram, this is Indy Car series - Formula 1 doesn't start for another week or two.
[12:37:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, St Petersburg, FL. Not the Russian one. :)
[12:37:17] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The Association Internationale des Automobile Clubs Reconnus (AIACR, English: .... In mid-2009, the FIA and the newly formed Formula One Teams Association ..."
[12:37:16] <Bytram> #g FIA Formula Association
[12:37:09] <Bytram> nope
[12:37:04] <FatPhil> Fla/?
[12:37:03] <MrPlow> https://www.fiaformulae.com - "Welcome to Formula E, the closest, most intense racing series on the planet. We bring unpredictable wheel-to-wheel combat to the city streets."
[12:37:02] <Bytram> #g FIA Formula
[12:36:46] <MrPlow> https://www.fia.com - "The FIA is the governing body of motor sport and promotes safe, sustainable and accessible mobility for all road users across the world. It works across three ..."
[12:36:45] <Bytram> #g FIA
[12:36:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> Fortunately I've got a good excuse for not getting much done today: The Grand Prix of St Pete is a few blocks away, so it's like trying to work inside a beehive.
[12:36:04] <Bytram> working at procrastinating -- that's the same thing, right?
[12:35:38] * AndyTheAbsurd is at work, procrastinating doing work
[12:35:18] <Bytram> stop calling me surly! ;)
[12:32:34] <FatPhil> you need to wilfully procrastinate a bucketful of not getting ready for work, surely?
[12:20:10] * Bytram procrastinates on getting ready for work.
[12:19:48] <Bytram> nested vms of films? doesn't sound too good.
[12:19:20] * exec single-candidly confiscates a hammerfs volume of the Zapruder film from FatPhil
[12:19:18] <Bytram> ~gday FatPhil
[12:18:08] * exec overratedly shoves a 55 gallon drum of nested virtual machines in Bytram
[12:18:06] <FatPhil> ~gday Bytram
[12:17:52] * FatPhil sniffs glue
[12:06:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dragon has Docked-But the Real Pucker Moment for SpaceX's Capsule Awaits [Updated] - http://sylnt.us - making-a-big-splash || Today's Good News Is That Whoever Has To Clean Up Solar System Will Have An Easy Job - http://sylnt.us - big-rocks-only
[12:03:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4644
[12:03:08] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:37:26] <upstart> ^ 03Two Hipsters Angrily Call Each Other 'Hipster'
[10:37:25] <chromas> https://local.theonion.com
[10:36:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hipster Whines at Tech Mag for Using His Pic to Imply Hipsters Look the Same; Wasn't His Pic - http://sylnt.us - do-you-see-what-I-see?
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[10:24:39] <FatPhil> "me eat the paper"
[10:24:07] <upstart> ^ 03Sesame Street: MacNeil Report
[10:24:06] <FatPhil> now I understand US politics: https://www.youtube.com
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[09:05:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Will Close 87 U.S. Retail Stores - http://sylnt.us - they-had-retail-stores?
[08:32:06] <FatPhil> Wait a sec? Manafort's defence lawyers were asking for a charitable 4 1/4 - 5 1/4 year sentence, when the max possible was about 20. So he ends up with less than 4 years!
[08:24:56] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Combatting Vaccine Misinformation" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[08:24:34] <upstart> Submitting "Combatting Vaccine Misinformation"... Feel free to submit something while I wait for the obligatory 20-second delay.
[08:24:33] <FatPhil> =submit https://newsroom.fb.com
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[07:27:21] <AzumaHazuki> sure they will. and i'm the pretty sailor-suited guardian of Jupiter's giant watery moon Europa.
[07:26:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Might Shut Down Phone Snooping Program, Whatever That Means - http://sylnt.us - believe-it-when-you-see-it
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[04:26:20] <Bytram> sleepy time -- catch y'all tomorrow
[04:25:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's New Privacy Initiative Legit and Yet Still a Problem - http://sylnt.us - Entrenching-Power
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[03:15:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[03:14:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[03:14:40] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.whitehouse.gov
[02:47:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A New Method for Developing Artificial Ovaries - http://sylnt.us - hope-for-the-future
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[01:06:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Code Jumper Gives Blind and Visually Impaired Children the Tools to Code - http://sylnt.us - plug-and-play
[00:16:28] <MrPlow> http://www.codetable.net - "Symbol Name: Latin Capital Letter A With Diaeresis. Html Entity: &Auml;. Hex Code: &#xc4;. Decimal Code: &#196;. Unicode Group: Latin-1 Supplement ..."
[00:16:28] <Bytram> #g unicode &#xc4;
[00:16:02] <MrPlow> https://www.fileformat.info - "Unicode Data. Name, LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS. Block, Latin-1 Supplement. Category, Letter, Uppercase [Lu]. Combine, 0."
[00:16:02] <Bytram> #g unicode latin a diaresis
[00:15:53] <MrPlow> https://www.fileformat.info - "Combine, 230. BIDI, Non-Spacing Mark [NSM]. Mirror, N. Old name, NON-SPACING DIAERESIS. Index entries, above, double dot. Version, Unicode 1.1.0 (June, ..."
[00:15:52] <Bytram> #g unicode a diaresis
[00:06:24] <MrPlow> http://www.codetable.net - "Symbol Name: No-Break Space. Html Entity: &nbsp;. Hex Code: &#xa0;. Decimal Code: &#160;. Unicode Group: Latin-1 Supplement ..."
[00:06:24] <Bytram> #g unicode &#160