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[00:07:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> monopolies stop putting any effort in. they don't have to cater to customers because wtf else are they going to do?
[00:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not really here, btw. i'm in the livingroom pounding down bud light as fast as my stomach will accept more without bitching. extremely physically demanding day today. i didn't get to sit in my computer chair, the livingroom chair, on the fishing dock, OR in my boat.
[00:11:40] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[00:12:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though, eight hours of shoveling mud while standing in it. tired.
[00:12:28] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off
[00:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Digital Exam Invigilator Used in Denmark - http://sylnt.us - taking-a-look
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[01:49:33] <Sulla> What should I use instead of Gmail?
[02:15:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why 'ji32k7au4a83' is a Remarkably Common Password - http://sylnt.us - deep-seated-insecurities-and-paranoia
[02:15:44] <dioxide> shrug. protonmail?
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[02:19:24] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.wired.com
[02:19:26] <upstart> Submitting "Hack Brief: Google Reveals 'BuggyCow,' a Rare MacOS Zero-Day Vulnerability"...
[02:19:48] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:19:54] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.wired.com
[02:19:55] <upstart> Submitting "How Amazon's Algorithms Curated a Dystopian Bookstore"...
[02:20:17] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
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[03:56:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Distracted Drivers 29 Times More Likely to Wreck in a Highway Work Zone - http://sylnt.us - stay-alert-stay-alive
[05:25:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Soon, Hundreds of Tourists Will Go to Space. What Should We Call Them? - http://sylnt.us - fortunate
[05:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> "idiots"
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[06:45:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel CPUs Afflicted With Simple Data-Spewing Spec-Exec Vulnerability - http://sylnt.us - Intel-illness
[08:25:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US NSA Announces Open Source Availability of GHIDRA Software Reverse Engineering Framework - http://sylnt.us - I'm-not-gonna-try-it...YOU-try-it!
[09:07:06] <FatPhil> Bloody redwashing!
[09:07:16] <FatPhil> fxck Hollywood!
[09:07:37] <FatPhil> One of the guys in Don Shirley's Band in "Green Book" is actually Estonian, in movie they made him Russian.
[09:09:08] <chromas> All wypipo look alike
[09:11:12] <FatPhil> Oi! Don't confuse ugri-mugris with slavs!
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[09:19:12] <FatPhil> https://translate.google.com
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[09:20:29] <FatPhil> and that's a terrible translation, googoo doesn't give a shit about minority languages for practical reasons.
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[11:27:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Genetic Factors Influence Human Brain Expansion - http://sylnt.us - that's-what-I-thought
[12:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:04:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4639
[12:05:05] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[12:05:05] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:05:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> The Roomie is a homophobic transphobic racist literal hitler
[12:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i told him i identified as a trans woman lesbian today. he said i have to come help dig again anyway.
[12:35:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yep... "trans woman lesbian" just means you want to be a woman who has sex with women but acts like a man. Which means you LIVE TO USE YOUR BIG MUSCLES.
[12:52:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i wanted to go all femme and do laundry instead
[12:53:20] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:53:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4640
[12:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:53:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4641
[12:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:53:39] * exec brazenly throws a bathtub of santa's semen at Bytram
[12:53:42] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:53:44] * exec overratedly poops a hint of Mrs. Lovett’s meat pies for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:53:52] <Bytram> we both lost
[12:54:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:54:09] <Bytram> how ya feelin? Hopefully a bit better.
[12:54:31] <Bytram> is amazing how much better I feel after getting a good night's sleep!
[12:54:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even slightly. shoveled mud while standing in it all day yesterday.
[12:54:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:55:23] <Bytram> needed a Binford-5000 Super Duper Mud Vacuum
[12:55:52] <Bytram> where is Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor when you need him?
[12:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:56:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Graphite Offers Up New Quantum Surprise - http://sylnt.us - surprise-or-not-surprise
[12:58:08] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[12:58:08] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:58:15] <Bytram> lol
[12:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[12:58:18] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:58:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, they must have finally turned off the api
[12:58:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather North Pole
[12:58:30] <MrPlow> Fucking Cold.
[12:58:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather uranus
[12:58:36] <MrPlow> 98.6F and windy.
[12:58:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather South Pole
[12:58:41] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:58:51] <Bytram> #weather miami
[12:58:51] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:58:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Schenectady, NY
[12:58:54] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:59:03] <Bytram> It's dead, Jim!
[12:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> they been threatening to turn off the api since someone bought weatherunderground
[13:00:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> That was IBM
[13:00:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> OpenWeather's API is still up, but it sucks.
[13:00:39] <Bytram> #g weatherunderground
[13:00:40] <MrPlow> https://www.wunderground.com - "Weather Underground provides local & long range weather forecasts, weather reports, maps & tropical weather conditions for locations worldwide."
[13:00:52] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[13:00:53] <exec> 10Miami, FL - currently 55°F / 13°C, sunny, wind N at 15 mph, humidity 58% - Wednesday sunny (55°F:72°F / 13°C:22°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (67°F:76°F / 19°C:24°C), Friday scattered showers (70°F:78°F / 21°C:26°C), Saturday partly cloudy (73°F:80°F / 23°C:27°C)
[13:00:58] <Bytram> or... google
[13:01:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> IIRC, Yahoo still has a weather API.
[13:01:09] <Bytram> ~weather presque
[13:01:12] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME - currently 2°F / -17°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 0 mph, humidity 70% - Wednesday mostly cloudy (-10°F:20°F / -23°C:-7°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (-3°F:15°F / -19°C:-9°C), Friday mostly cloudy (9°F:27°F / -13°C:-3°C), Saturday partly cloudy (-5°F:29°F / -21°C:-2°C)
[13:01:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 12345
[13:01:19] <exec> 10Schenectady, NY 12345 - currently 11°F / -12°C, mostly sunny, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 63% - Wednesday partly cloudy (9°F:23°F / -13°C:-5°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (12°F:26°F / -11°C:-3°C), Friday mostly cloudy (17°F:36°F / -8°C:2°C), Saturday mostly sunny (21°F:39°F / -6°C:4°C)
[13:01:32] <Bytram> ~weather 01776
[13:01:34] <exec> 10Sudbury, MA 01776 - currently 15°F / -9°C, sunny, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 51% - Wednesday partly cloudy (9°F:26°F / -13°C:-3°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (13°F:28°F / -11°C:-2°C), Friday mostly cloudy (21°F:37°F / -6°C:3°C), Saturday sunny (20°F:40°F / -7°C:4°C)
[13:01:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Someone asked a sci-fi writer "where do you get your ideas?" The writer replied "Oh, there's a PO in Schenectady that we all write away to for ideas".
[13:02:01] <Bytram> IIRC there was a bit of a 'negotiation' to get that zip code
[13:02:09] <Bytram> lol
[13:02:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> err..."PO Box".
[13:02:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I also grew up nearby.)
[13:02:28] <Bytram> #g woodstock schenectady
[13:02:28] <MrPlow> https://webstore.trailways.com - "Search Trailways for the lowest fares on all available Adirondack Trailways bus schedules, and departure times from Schenectady, NY to Woodstock, NY."
[13:02:40] <Bytram> #g woodstock concert schenectady
[13:02:41] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Woodstock '94 was a music festival organized in 1994 to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the original Woodstock festival of 1969. It was promoted as \"2 ..."
[13:03:54] <Bytram> ~weather humboldt
[13:03:55] <exec> 10Humboldt County, CA - currently 46°F / 8°C, rain, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 93% - Wednesday rain (34°F:50°F / 1°C:10°C), Thursday partly cloudy (32°F:49°F / 0°C:9°C), Friday mostly sunny (34°F:48°F / 1°C:9°C), Saturday showers (33°F:49°F / 1°C:9°C)
[13:04:02] <Bytram> ~weather humboldt, TN
[13:04:04] <exec> 10Humboldt, TN - currently 19°F / -7°C, sunny, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 80% - Wednesday sunny (19°F:40°F / -7°C:4°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (42°F:50°F / 6°C:10°C), Friday showers (51°F:56°F / 11°C:13°C), Saturday thunderstorm (43°F:65°F / 6°C:18°C)
[13:04:30] <Bytram> that's quite a warm up!
[13:05:00] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: I might or might not have gone to college nearby
[13:06:21] <Bytram> break time
[13:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, the warm up would be nice but the rain makes it completely unuseful.
[13:30:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> I am *so* tired of Microsoft thinking that they can write software that's smarter than I am.
[14:12:07] <FatPhil> It looks like you're writing a rant, would you like help with that?
[14:26:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Reveals 'BuggyCow,' a Rare MacOS Zero-Day Vulnerability - http://sylnt.us - cow-a-buggy-dude
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[15:11:45] <FatPhil> ~gday AzumaHazuki
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[16:22:51] <cmn32480> so apparently it is gonna be one of THOSE days
[16:23:09] <cmn32480> HVAC system failed couty inspection
[16:23:21] <cmn32480> mail server just shut itself off for no f**king reason
[16:23:55] <cmn32480> dog crapped on the carpet
[16:24:26] <cmn32480> check engine light came on in the car on my weay to the office...
[16:24:40] <cmn32480> I think I ought to just go back to bed and try again tomorrow!
[16:25:19] <cmn32480> or start drinking... that'll make it better.
[16:25:37] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[16:25:39] * exec mistakenly embiggens a tumbleweed of stahhhp! with TheMightyBuzzard
[16:25:41] <cmn32480> coffee++
[16:25:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4642
[16:26:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'd say "at least $something hasn't happened" but then $something WOULD happen and I'd be to blame.
[16:26:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> So: sorry your day sucks.
[16:26:32] <cmn32480> yer swell AndyTheAbsurd... now I don't even know what to be on the lookout for!
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[16:27:00] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://thehackernews.com
[16:27:01] <upstart> Submitting "New Google Chrome Zero-Day Vulnerability Found Actively Exploited in the Wild"... Feel free to submit something while I wait for the obligatory 20-second delay.
[16:27:06] * cmn32480 peers around a corner for $something
[16:27:23] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "New Google Chrome Zero-Day Vulnerability Found Actively Exploited in the Wild" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:29:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> flat tire? power outage? leaky roof? pets got fleas? don't let you kids climb trees?
[16:29:54] <cmn32480> From the Exchange event log: "The last shutdown's success status was false. The last boot's success status was false."
[16:30:10] <cmn32480> boot status was false... NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
[16:30:16] <cmn32480> How about a WHY????
[16:33:05] <FatPhil> Hmmm, looks like the MicroSoft Software status is True, that might be part of the problem
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[16:33:22] <cmn32480> FatPhil - AGREED
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[16:44:00] <SoyCow1984> \=submit https://www.fastcompany.com
[16:44:02] <upstart> ^ 03Here are the data brokers quietly buying and selling your personal information
[16:44:13] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.fastcompany.com
[16:44:16] <upstart> Submitting "Here are the data brokers quietly buying and selling your personal information"... Feel free to submit something while I wait for the obligatory 20-second delay.
[16:44:38] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Here are the Data Brokers Quietly Buying and Selling Your Personal Information" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:45:25] <FatPhil> Moderator: [00:32:42] Thank you. Our next question comes from Chuck Tannert with Forbes.
[16:45:28] <FatPhil> Chuck Tannert: [00:32:47] Good afternoon. What is that Tesla's profit margin on each and every $35,000 Model 3 sold?
[16:45:38] <FatPhil> Elon Musk: [00:32:57] Yeah. We're not going to answer questions like that. Next question.
[16:46:02] <FatPhil> So, is he making a loss on every sale, but gonna make up for that in quantity?
[16:46:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> in other words, it's somewhere between "vanishingly small" and "negative".
[16:46:33] <SoyCow1984> Nah, they'll make it up on the oil changes
[16:48:02] <FatPhil> "This is all on the record. But, please do not publish the recording or transcripts of this call." -- oops, too late
[16:49:17] <fyngyrz> There are reasonable explanations for losing on this model, you know
[16:50:06] <fyngyrz> as long as it isn't a lot, they may be able to make it up from the higher priced versions, and from other models. The concept of a "loss leader" has been around for a very long time
[16:50:30] <fyngyrz> What they get out of it is more Teslas, perhaps a lot more, and considerable buzz
[16:50:38] <fyngyrz> just speculating
[16:53:39] <FatPhil> loss leaders only make sense if you're selling a whole lot more to them as soon as possible.
[16:54:37] <FatPhil> the people you're selling one model to, you're probably not also selling a higher priced model to.
[16:55:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> what if he's planning on selling a Model 3R to rental agencies at a higher price?
[16:56:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I'd imagine that the 3R would have the weakest available motor, and the largest available battery pack. Plus GPS that reports back to the rental agency where it is, in case it's not returned on time.)
[16:57:08] <FatPhil> why doesn't it just drive back to the rental agency!
[16:57:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> because self-driving cars still suck at dealing with real life driving situations
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[17:14:28] <fyngyrz> FatPhil: car buyers tend to return to the seller when they're happy. Conversion is a thing.
[17:14:58] <fyngyrz> Perhaps they're not just thinking one quarter ahead (still just speculating)
[17:15:48] <fyngyrz> For example, I've been buying Chevy vehicles for decades, because I've been happy with them. The chevy I own now is *much* higher end than the Chevy I started with.
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[17:55:01] <pinchy> hello honda man
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[23:06:24] <FatPhil> fyngyrz: yeah, but that's not a loss leader, that's brand loyalty. It does nothing for the bottom line (in a company that's not exactly turning a profit).
[23:07:05] <fyngyrz> well, in the sense that it's low priced (below cost), it is one. But it's distribted over more time.
[23:07:24] <fyngyrz> and sure it will do something for the bottom line. Just not this quarter.
[23:08:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Groundbreaking Ketamine-Derived Treatment for Depression Approved by the U.S. FDA - http://sylnt.us - depression-sucks
[23:10:15] <FatPhil> my god, you do buy into the "yes we sell it for a loss, but make up for that in quantity" school of business?!?!??
[23:14:05] <FatPhil> It's definitely penetration pricing, whether it's a loss leader remains to be seen. There's not much brand tie-in, so any other competitor could steal the future sale by using its own penetration pricing campaign.
[23:18:35] <FatPhil> =submit http://www.ox.ac.uk
[23:18:37] <upstart> Submitting "Social media and internet not cause of political polarisation (new research suggests)"... Feel free to submit something while I wait for the obligatory 20-second delay.
[23:18:59] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Social Media and Internet Not Cause of Political Polarisation (new Research Suggests)" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[23:37:51] <fyngyrz> lol no FatPhil. But I certainly buy into "low introductory pricing" school of business. Methinks you didn't read what I actually wrote.
[23:38:21] <fyngyrz> In this I was suggesting they were introducing the brand (and keeping a promise, though late)
[23:39:25] <fyngyrz> There are many things businesses do for free, or less than cost, in order to collect, and keep, customers. That's all I was suggesting.