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[01:41:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Idea for the basement: set up a target shooting range =)
[01:42:03] <Bytram> Or, install a pool and have indoor fishing. =) =)
[01:43:43] <Bytram> #g current price of gold
[01:43:44] <MrPlow> https://www.moneymetals.com - "Find out the spot price of gold per ounce updated every minute. Investors use our interactive charts to make informed bullion market decisions every day..."
[01:53:33] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[01:53:38] <exec> 1150 stories loaded
[01:53:39] <exec> attempting to submit story: "In new Starship details, Musk reveals a more practical approach"
[01:54:09] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:54:15] <exec> 1150 stories loaded
[02:08:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vice Media Will Reorganize and Lay Off 10% of Staff - http://sylnt.us - so-long-and-thanks-for-nothing
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[02:24:12] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[02:34:36] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://krebsonsecurity.com
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[02:36:36] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://arstechnica.com
[02:36:36] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:36:44] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://krebsonsecurity.com
[02:36:45] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[02:36:51] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://torrentfreak.com
[02:36:51] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:37:02] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:37:05] <chromas> You can try = again. the bot's back
[02:37:09] <chromas> or ~ for exec subs
[02:37:27] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:39:11] <SoyCow1984> @submit https://torrentfreak.com
[02:39:26] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://torrentfreak.com
[02:39:27] <upstart> Submitting "Waterworld 'Fan-Edit' Gets Official Blu-ray Release, a Decade After Pirate Bay Premiere - TorrentFreak"...
[02:39:35] <SoyCow1984> thanks!
[02:39:49] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:39:53] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://krebsonsecurity.com
[02:39:54] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[02:40:01] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://krebsonsecurity.com
[02:40:03] <upstart> Submitting "Courts Hand Down Hard Jail Time for DDoS — Krebs on Security"...
[02:40:25] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:40:59] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://torrentfreak.com
[02:41:01] <upstart> Submitting "Movie Piracy 'Alternative' UltraViolet is Shutting Down - TorrentFreak"...
[02:41:22] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:43:42] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[02:43:43] <upstart> Submitting "Foxconn says Wisconsin factory plans are back on after talk with Trump"...
[02:44:05] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:46:27] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:46:28] <upstart> Submitting "Statin therapy reduces risk of major cardiovascular events irrespective of age"...
[02:46:50] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:47:33] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:47:34] <upstart> Submitting "New computational method reduces risk of drug formulation"...
[02:47:56] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
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[03:13:10] <AzumaHazuki> I have another qyestion: can we please start Spam modding Eth? He's not even trolling any longer. He doesn't add anything to the discussion.
[03:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, not if he's arguably on topic. that's the metric we use for rDT's garbage posts. they may be stupid but if they're on topic they're on topic and thus not spam.
[03:47:01] <AzumaHazuki> "$TOPIC is the Jews' fault!!!1111one" is not on topic
[03:47:15] <AzumaHazuki> you people really need to start handing out bans.
[03:47:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd be the end of the site if we did. nothing we could do would kill us as a site quicker.
[03:48:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, shit, look at how much passion we get just discussing moderation
[03:49:27] <AzumaHazuki> then some of these mods need to have a stronger effect. cumulative Troll mods, for example
[03:49:45] <AzumaHazuki> we have people who contribute less than jack shit, whose presence actively diminishes the site
[03:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they did in overall opinion, their karma would be negative and they wouldn't be able to post. personal karma's a really terrible metric for most anything but positive or negative is still a valid measurement.
[03:51:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> just foe him and adjust foe karma if you don't want to read his silliness. that's why we kept the system.
[03:52:14] <AzumaHazuki> granted, i can see why you in particular would not want anything much more extreme than that... :D
[03:52:18] <AzumaHazuki> but yeah, may as well
[03:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd likely be in the same boat, so it's worth taking a less biased look at it.
[03:55:28] <chromas> "Your personal Google+ account is going away on April 2, 2019" :'(
[03:55:28] <AzumaHazuki> er, no. one of us takes on trolls and posts informative posts. the other...is staff, but basically has nothing more than stale libertarian memes and ADHD segues about how great it is to be a grown-ass adult in a roommate situation doing sod-all but fishing and whacking off
[03:56:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, we'd have to hire someone to do the mods. none of the current staff are so inclined as to say whose speech we approve of so they get to speak and whose we don't so they get silenced.
[03:56:51] <chromas> Nothing wrong with whacking off
[03:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> you say that like it's a bad thing instead of every guy's idea of retirement
[03:57:36] <AzumaHazuki> really? i guess i really don't understand men
[03:58:10] <chromas> We're really not that hard
[03:58:15] <chromas> unless we're whacking off
[03:58:47] <poutine> they made it april 2nd so people wouldn't think it was an april fool's joke
[03:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> cliff notes version: we like comfort that's the same tomorrow as it was yesterday
[04:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you'll never hear a guy wondering where a relationship is heading. if we're happy with it now, we're happy with it forever.
[04:00:15] <chromas> gmail was released on an april 1, wasn't it?
[04:01:58] <AzumaHazuki> seems kind of unthinking. nothing in this world is truly stable...
[04:02:21] <AzumaHazuki> maybe it's just because of my background but i don't take *anything* for granted. not love, not shelter, not food, not even peacetime
[04:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> possible. it's also a common female trait to not understand that way of thinking though. just like we don't have any idea why things need to change when they're already good.
[04:04:36] <chromas> Is Poettering Secretly a Woman? Click here to find out!
[04:05:03] <AzumaHazuki> NIH Syndrome doesn't seem gender limited...
[04:05:23] <chromas> Yeah but pulseaudio wasn't really nih was it?
[04:05:43] <poutine> pulseaudio solved a problem that needed to be solved
[04:05:58] <poutine> alsa/oss and others were a mess
[04:06:04] <chromas> The problem of distros not enabling dmix by default
[04:06:12] <AzumaHazuki> ^ this
[04:06:19] * chromas derails
[04:06:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine, pulseaudio is just a frontend for alsa
[04:07:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, how many times in the past five years has your furniture in your livingroom been changed or moved?
[04:07:52] <chromas> Is chromas secretly a woman? Click here to find out!
[04:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a trap!
[04:08:09] * chromas puts his furnitures back
[04:08:30] <AzumaHazuki> er...a least 4 times, given i've moved a lot and also built a desk and a bedframe
[04:08:50] <AzumaHazuki> i've never really had a stable home
[04:09:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, mine's still the same furniture in the exact same position as when we unloaded it off the moving truck four years ago. it never even occurred to me to change it.
[04:10:34] <AzumaHazuki> maybe this is more an economic than a gender thing?
[04:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't feel economic. lack of the ability to be satisfied isn't really any different between poor and upper middle class.
[04:12:13] <AzumaHazuki> bleh. hopefully this pharmacy tech thing evolves into the stable, normal life i've always wanted and never really had
[04:12:36] <AzumaHazuki> i'm checking out apartments for August already, planning to lock a cute little one-bedroom just a block away from the pharmacy in if possible
[04:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be differing statistical numbers but i've been the same about it dirt poor and with more money than i need.
[04:12:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice. save on gas.
[04:12:57] <AzumaHazuki> > implying i could ever afford a car
[04:13:03] <AzumaHazuki> grew up poor in NYC. Can't drive.
[04:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh most anyone can afford a car. the folks in the projects have cars. often with very expensive wheels.
[04:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nyc not having a car is an option. most other places it's not.
[04:14:17] <AzumaHazuki> well i'm doing something wrong then. maybe the whole "always employed, so making juuuuust a little too much for aid" thing
[04:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you just buy a $500-2k used car when you're broke-ass.
[04:15:52] <AzumaHazuki> need to learn how to drive first. that's been on my list for a while.
[04:16:03] <AzumaHazuki> it can't be THAT hard. 16 year olds do it
[04:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> strange fact, you could make damned good money buying used cars in TN and selling them in OK without doing a thing to them.
[04:17:14] <AzumaHazuki> ... *makes note of this, for no particular reason*
[04:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not hard at all. just RTFM through a time or two and it's cake. go practice in go-karts if you're nervous.
[04:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> parallel parking's annoying and takes practice but if you put your seatbelt on and check your mirrors regularly you'll probably pass the test
[04:19:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, if ethanol-fueled can do it...
[04:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, time for me to bugger off to bed being as it's an hour past my bedtime and i've got lots of walls to tear apart and remove tomorrow.
[04:36:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI, Air Force Investigators Mapped North Korean Botnet to Aid Shutdown - http://sylnt.us - lat-1-long-2
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[09:05:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Foxconn May Drop Plans to Build Flat Screens in Wisconsin - http://sylnt.us - fox-wisconn
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[11:36:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Consumer Electronic Device" Renders Key Fobs Inoperable - http://sylnt.us - color-me-wireless
[13:28:58] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:28:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4582
[13:29:23] <Bytram> well! You lot have been chatty since I was last here!!
[13:32:29] <Bytram> ~tell AzumaHazuki Any tool which can be employed to suppress what is said by someone you don't like can be used by someone you don't like to suppress what you want to say... If "troll" is inappropriate as a moderation, choose something else. If there is a genuine gap in our system, please provide concrete links and a suggestion as to what new mod would handle it.
[13:35:40] <Bytram> ~tell AzumaHazuki http://www.quotationspage.com "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."
[13:38:44] <Bytram> ~tell AzumaHazuki https://quoteinvestigator.com "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
[13:54:59] <Bytram> ~tell AzumaHazuki There are postings here with which I disagree, but I have come to trust the *community* to moderate their comments appropriately. Eventually, their comments need to stand on their own merit(s) and they will bear the consequences. Recent meta stories are about trying to deal with one corner case I did not see addressed, a loophole if you will, and trying to deal with it in a fair and unbiased way.
[13:57:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Lawyer is Suing Apple Over the FaceTime Eavesdrop Bug - http://sylnt.us - sosumi
[15:45:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Judge Blocks Yahoo Data Breach Payout - http://sylnt.us - not-such-a-good-deal
[16:58:23] <fyngyrz> Lately, when I've run into a RDT post, I just hit the [-] button and it collapses. Problem solved, at least as far as I'm concerned.
[17:00:38] <fyngyrz> yes
[18:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Statin Therapy Reduces Risk of Major Cardiovascular Events Irrespective of Age - http://sylnt.us - keep-the-ticker-ticking
[20:17:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook loses Snopes as a fact-checker - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-fact
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[22:36:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - San Francisco Could Ban Facial Recognition Technology, Becoming First US City to Do So - http://sylnt.us - don't-look-at-me-that-way
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[23:50:24] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, 16°C/61°F, 3:50 pm PST, Saturday, 2 February 2019
[23:50:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Sixty-one goddamn degrees, it's freezing!
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