#Soylent | Logs for 2018-12-26

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[00:54:34] <chromas> Not that he's here anymore, but try taking the "amp" off the url
[00:54:51] <chromas> #smake google amp
[00:54:51] * MrPlow smakes google amp upside the head with wonderment
[00:57:20] <Bytram> chromas: which amp are you talkin about?
[00:58:08] <chromas> oh, in SoyCow's sub a few messages up
[00:58:35] <Bytram> aahhh, now I see it. tx!
[00:58:49] <Bytram> whereto? https://goodereader.com
[00:58:49] <upstart> Error: Title is empty
[00:58:53] <chromas> Dang
[00:59:06] <Bytram> whereto? https://goodereader.com
[00:59:09] <chromas> AMP is Google's thing for mobile sites to run "lightweight" but requires stupid things like hiding the page for 8 seconds if no javascript
[00:59:12] <upstart> ^ 03Kindle Voyage 2 will be released in 2019 ( https://goodereader.com )
[00:59:17] <Bytram> LOL!
[00:59:39] <Bytram> ~blame The kid's still got it!
[00:59:41] * exec points at Bytram
[01:01:28] <chromas> Wow, that page has a buttload of embedded css. That's efficient
[01:02:55] <chromas> it does have the text and title though
[01:03:00] <chromas> #smake upstart
[01:03:00] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with a creampie
[01:15:02] <pinchy> TMB vs Asuzuki on xmas day
[01:15:12] <pinchy> the thread went way off the right of the screen
[01:15:41] * Bytram looks around for a screen extension
[01:37:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Huawei's Equipment Removed from UK Telecom BT's Network for Emergency Services - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-switch
[03:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> pinchy, that wasn't even a fight. that was her trying to get one going and me just being sad for her.
[03:25:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Hit With FTC Complaint Over ‘Inappropriate’ Kids Apps - http://sylnt.us - apps-for-inappropriate-kids?
[03:55:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gavle Gears Up to Defend their Goat - http://sylnt.us - Pitches-and-forks-time-lads
[05:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cell and Embryo Development Being Tracked in Unprecedented Detail - http://sylnt.us - big-brother-x-10
[07:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Domain Registrar Can be Held Liable for Pirate Site, Court Rules - http://sylnt.us - injunction-for-thinking-the-lyrics
[09:08:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Using Molten Salt to Store Electricity Isn’t Just for Solar Thermal Plants - http://sylnt.us - works-for-clearing-sidewalks-too
[10:56:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sunrun Outpaces SolarCity in U.S. Residential Solar Panel Sales - http://sylnt.us - future-looks-bright
[12:45:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grab is Messing Up the World’s Largest Mapping Community’s Data in Southeast Asia - http://sylnt.us - end-of-the-world
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[13:25:13] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Deucalion] by Aphrodite
[13:25:14] <exec> welcome Deucalion: London, UK, 10°C/50°F, 1:25 pm GMT, Wednesday, 26 December 2018
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[14:08:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:08:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4516
[14:27:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gävle, Sweden Gears Up to Defend their Goat - http://sylnt.us - Pitches-and-forks-time-lads
[14:29:33] <Fnord666> Good morning Bytram!
[14:30:34] <Bytram> buenos dias mon ami!
[14:30:41] <Bytram> :)
[14:30:48] <Fnord666> noice
[14:30:56] <Fnord666> ciao
[14:31:04] <Fnord666> and hola
[14:31:18] <Bytram> question for ya, while you are here?
[14:31:26] <Fnord666> sure
[14:31:33] <Bytram> I'm looking at this sub: https://soylentnews.org
[14:31:34] <upstart> ^ 03Free PVS-Studio for those who develops open source projects: SoylentNews Submission
[14:31:50] <Bytram> On the one hand, it is being made freely available (good thing)
[14:32:06] <Bytram> on the other hand, who knows if it will remain that way, and if so, for how long?
[14:32:10] <Fnord666> yes, author of sub appears from time to time to sell his wares
[14:32:20] <Fnord666> yes
[14:32:24] <Bytram> and on the gripping hand, it looks lime a Soyvertisement.
[14:32:51] <Bytram> so, even though on the face of it, it looks like a good thing, I'm thinking to bin it.
[14:33:11] <Bytram> "I'm sorry, but we do not accept self-promoting stories on this site."
[14:33:17] * chromas ctrl-Ws upon hearing about Bytram's gripping hand
[14:33:24] <Fnord666> I'm of two minds as well.
[14:33:39] <Fnord666> well, at least two but that's beside the point
[14:33:47] <Bytram> Zaphod Beeblebrox??!!!!
[14:33:56] <Fnord666> :)
[14:34:02] <Bytram> did I spell that write?
[14:34:05] <Fnord666> A distant cousin
[14:34:07] <Bytram> #g Zaphod Beeblebrox
[14:34:07] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Zaphod Beeblebrox is a fictional character in the various versions of the humorous science fiction story The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams."
[14:34:13] <Fnord666> yes you did
[14:34:13] <Bytram> yays!
[14:34:26] <Fnord666> bytram++
[14:34:26] <Bender> karma - bytram: 119
[14:34:36] <Bytram> are you okay with the sentiment, and phrasing, of the delete message?
[14:35:11] <chromas> So he just needs to re-sub as a different persona ;)
[14:35:15] <Bytram> KISS; shortening it to: We do not accept self-promoting stories on this site.
[14:35:21] <Fnord666> The usual submission is "open source project X has bugs. We know this because our product found them. See our shiny product!"
[14:35:32] <Bytram> yes, I remember those!
[14:36:06] <Bytram> s/he has already seen enough notices to prior submissi0ons to be aware of the policy
[14:36:13] <Bytram> s/0//
[14:36:15] <exec> <Bytram> s/he has already seen enough notices to prior submissions to be aware of the policy
[14:36:32] <Fnord666> Last one I binned I suggested that he submit a third party review or article about his/her product instead
[14:36:37] <Bytram> Speak now or it's going in the bin.
[14:37:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Signs Legislation to Boost Quantum Computing Research With $1.2 Billion - http://sylnt.us - both-signed-and-did-not-sign
[14:37:31] <Bytram> Oh, doh... now I see that there was an Editor's Note from you... didn't realize it at first 'cause you left off the '666' of your nick!
[14:37:36] <Bytram> buh buy!
[14:38:14] <Bytram> Fnord666: annnd, it's official! Congrats on posting 2700+ stories!! https://soylentnews.org
[14:38:22] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[14:38:45] <Fnord666> aw shucks.
[14:39:44] <Fnord666> thanks!
[14:40:03] <Fnord666> pushing the 6200 mark yourself
[14:40:21] <Fnord666> quite an achievement as well
[14:40:42] <chromas> Get some confetti for the 6502 mark
[14:40:48] <Fnord666> I saw that mrpg broke 1000 recently too!
[14:41:48] <Fnord666> So how has everyone's holidays gone so far?
[14:43:20] <Bytram> chromas: That would be **AWESOME** My very first computer had a 6502. Many fun-filled hours using that box and teaching myself assembler.
[14:43:45] <Bytram> Fnord666: much-needed quiet.
[14:44:01] * Bytram is currently procrastinating a bit before getting ready to head in to work.
[14:44:43] <Fnord666> No rest for the weary eh?
[14:44:46] * Bytram is treating himself with a new toy for Christmas: https://www.staples.com
[14:45:18] * Bytram is hoping to install Linux on it; maybe following: https://h30434.www3.hp.com
[14:45:40] * Bytram or maybe this oneL http://thepurdman.com
[14:46:36] <Bytram> Fnord666: I'm actually not scheduled to be at work until early afternoon, but overtime is permitted atm, so make hay while the sun shines!
[14:46:37] <chromas> or how about gentoo? :D
[14:46:54] <Bytram> is that the one that needs to be compiled from source?
[14:47:05] <chromas> yeah
[14:47:06] <Fnord666> Can't argue with that
[14:47:17] <Fnord666> re overtime
[14:47:18] * Bytram pictures how long that tiny little proc would churn on THAT task, never mind where it would store the source.
[14:47:42] <Bytram> only has 32GB eMMC with 4 GB SDRAM
[14:47:59] <Fnord666> Bytram that link is for a tablet rather than the laptop, but maybe it will still work?
[14:48:11] <Bytram> ugh... which one?
[14:48:21] <Fnord666> The HP Stream 7 tablet
[14:48:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:48:44] <Fnord666> https://www.amazon.com
[14:48:45] <Bytram> tab closed.
[14:49:08] <Bytram> the new lappy is already on order, should get it sometime early in Jan.
[14:49:27] <Fnord666> I'm gonna keep that tab open since I have one of those tablets gathering dust around here somewhere
[14:49:27] <Bytram> will cost me about $85 out-of-pocket.
[14:49:37] <Fnord666> sweet!
[14:49:40] <Bytram> Hey! Really? Noice!!!!!!!!
[14:50:47] <Bytram> yeah, we just started carrying some electronics (prolly just for the holiday season), and they had more capable boxes for sale, but always had some bone-headed shortcoming (besides the ludicrously uninformative "specs" they provided)
[14:52:14] <Bytram> Am also getting a 10-inch tablet that, as far as I can tell, comes with a carrying case and keyboard, as well as over-the-ear headphones, which works out to something under $40 to me.
[14:52:39] <Bytram> prolly has an old version of Android on it, but if nothing else, can use it for media consumption.
[14:52:46] <Fnord666> That sounds like a heck of a deal too
[14:53:42] * Bytram checks... $42.99 - 20% discount is...
[14:53:59] <Bytram> under $35.00
[14:53:59] <Fnord666> I've seen that laptop in stores before. Seems like it's built well
[14:54:10] <Bytram> good to hear! (umm, read!!!)
[14:54:19] <Fnord666> :)
[14:54:35] <Fnord666> Probably last forever on a charge too.
[14:54:42] <Bytram> only 1024x768 resolution but... has an Intel UHD 600 chip so can drive UHD display.
[14:54:52] <Bytram> nice port selection if I can believe what I've seen.
[14:57:19] <Fnord666> are you sure about the resolution? Most of the listings I'm finding are 1366x768
[14:57:24] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[14:57:24] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[14:57:32] * Bytram is prolly misremembering
[14:57:52] <Bytram> https://store.hp.com
[14:57:53] <upstart> ^ 03HP Stream - 11-ah110nr| HP® Official Store
[14:58:27] <chromas> Bytram's got a nice selection of ports coming in to pair with tmb's skittles
[14:58:27] <Bytram> ==> 11.6" diagonal HD SVA anti-glare WLED-backlit (1366 x 768)
[14:58:31] <Fnord666> From that listing
[14:58:32] <Fnord666> 11.6" diagonal HD SVA anti-glare WLED-backlit (1366 x 768) [10]
[14:58:40] <Bytram> ninja'd!!
[14:58:44] <Fnord666> yup
[14:58:57] <Fnord666> and you get office 365 free for a year!!!!!!
[14:58:57] <Bytram> I do appreciate the effort, though.
[14:59:05] <Bytram> No. Thank. You.
[14:59:11] <Fnord666> lol
[14:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno if i told you lot yet but i'm out for a week or so starting tomorrow. will be available by phone and will have my ssh keys with me but i'll have to find a computer to borrow if there's an emergency.
[14:59:40] <Bytram> I utterly fail to understand what practical reason MS went with the ribbon in MS Office.
[15:00:06] <chromas> Everything else has tabs, why not the toolbar?
[15:00:08] <Bytram> except they had big companies paying big $$ each year for maintenance so they had to give 'em *something* for all those monies!
[15:00:22] <Fnord666> for sure
[15:00:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Don't recall it, hope everything is okay?
[15:01:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, just vacation
[15:01:24] <Bytram> oh, good good!
[15:01:26] <Fnord666> Ice fishing?
[15:01:42] <chromas> Remember, now that you're occupying a church, you have to fish for men now
[15:01:46] <Bytram> yep, rod, reel, and an ice cube tray.
[15:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit no. i live below the mason-dixon line. water don't freeze here unless it's in a bucket.
[15:02:07] <Bytram> how you hook an ice cube, though... that is beyond me.
[15:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i hook myself every now and then. that count?
[15:02:18] <Fnord666> Ah. That will make a difference, yes.
[15:02:32] <chromas> Do you bite your worm though?
[15:02:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> old and fat and not very flexible anymore
[15:03:09] <chromas> 'old'
[15:03:10] * Bytram has gone icefishing when the ice was 18 inches thick... boring holes was not a lot of fun.
[15:03:20] <Bytram> what chromas said.
[15:03:33] <Bytram> it'll only get worse as you get older.
[15:03:58] <Bytram> okay, really gotta skoot... catch you lot later!
[15:04:13] <Fnord666> Have an ok day Bytram
[15:04:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> have one of those hp stream things in the house. painful to use for anything but browsing really.
[15:04:36] <Fnord666> TheMightyBuzzard you able to put linux on it?
[15:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me. it's TR's boy child's.
[15:05:21] <Fnord666> ah, ok.
[15:05:33] <Fnord666> Thought maybe you had futzed around with it a bit
[15:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't wanna support it so i don't put anything on it that requires my level of expertise.
[15:05:47] <Fnord666> Solid thinking there my friend
[15:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's saving up for a real laptop though cause that one don't play the games he likes all that well.
[15:06:41] <chromas> Roblox?
[15:06:46] <Fnord666> Unless he really likes solitaire or minesweeper, then no
[15:07:02] <Fnord666> i'm guessing minecraft
[15:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> the new one will likely be dual boot. it's just safer for a teenage boy to only browse from linux.
[15:07:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly.
[15:07:12] <chromas> Might be able to to Steam streaming
[15:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> also roblox though.
[15:07:52] <Fnord666> What? He might visit "dodgy" sites? No way!
[15:08:31] <Fnord666> TheMightyBuzzard Do enjoy your vacation!
[15:08:32] <chromas> Friends don't let friends surf without noscript
[15:08:40] <chromas> or umatrix. whatever
[15:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> near certainty i'd say. i'm half tempted to give him some reputable streaming urls so i don't have to fix anything.
[15:09:38] <Fnord666> "But you didn't get them from me"
[15:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ed zackery
[15:11:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, time to go see if there's any decent sporting goods sales happening today. pick me up some cheap fishin stuffs maybe. yall take care.
[15:11:50] <Fnord666> take care TheMightyBuzzard and good luck on the deals
[15:13:01] <Fnord666> I should probably head out as well and actually get soemthing accomplished today.
[15:13:21] <Fnord666> laters
[16:25:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oslo Puts Up a Stop Sign - http://sylnt.us - whoa-nellie
[18:06:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Year's Resolutions - http://sylnt.us - What's-wrong-with-the-old-year?
[18:30:47] <pinchy> whoa nellie indeed
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[19:36:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Congress Approves Act that Opens US Government Data to the Public - http://sylnt.us - information-wants-to-be-free
[21:13:53] <chromas> In Russia, Congress open public to government data.
[21:15:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Widespread EFTPOS Outage is a Stumble for an Aussie Cashless Society - http://sylnt.us - All-your-credits-are-belong-to-us
[21:19:10] <pinchy> loading and decrunching
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[22:56:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Installs Surveillance Network - http://sylnt.us - Trust-your-neighbors-dept
[22:59:45] <chromas> What if we're the totalitarian state and everything bad we know about China is just propaganda?
[22:59:59] * chromas takes a big, Elon-Musk-style non-inhaling hit
[23:03:50] <Sulla> That would be quite the work of propaganda
[23:04:20] <chromas> Maybe. For all I know, you're all Murican bots
[23:12:17] <Sulla> I mostly get annoyed at the liberals I come across who assume that China must be all flowers and puppy dogs because they think America is the greatest evil out there
[23:14:28] <chromas> China and Islam are the only thing standing between the World and White Colonialism
[23:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i think a bot would write better sub-bot code than MrPlow's.
[23:15:28] <chromas> That's just what the fed wants me to beliebe
[23:16:38] <chromas> MrPlow's probably the one behind it all
[23:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> frankly, i think a drunken monkey would do a better job if it gave a shit. it would certainly have that up on me.
[23:17:32] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to watch some more tv and smoke some more cigarettes
[23:17:33] <chromas> Need a drunk bot coding contest
[23:17:52] <chromas> "How's it going, fellow humans?"
[23:22:25] <Sulla> If I started talking about Tiananmen Square every thread would I just get modded spam or banned?
[23:22:35] <Sulla> gotta make sure no chinese nationals read our threads secrets
[23:23:31] <chromas> Just slip it in the middle of your comments meow and see if anyone notices
[23:27:15] <Sulla> Good call. we can weed out the chinese agents
[23:30:06] <Sulla> Ive been enjoying the pro-china proganda articles recently
[23:30:22] <Sulla> I think it was CNN that had one about how Chinese hedgemony wouldn't be that bad and that America should just accept it
[23:39:57] * Deucalion propels to warm corner by fart expulsion, sprouts have much to answer for.
[23:45:51] <Deucalion> <Sulla> I mostly get annoyed at the liberals...blah something... define your terms please. We should have a wiki page that we all get to define our terms on, a paragraph per definition per person. You can't have a discussion about anything unless all parties agree terms.
[23:47:14] <Deucalion> I'm socialist. You're communist. We're liberal conservatives. etc.
[23:47:50] <Sulla> I define liberal as west coast hippy
[23:47:51] <Deucalion> Means nothing unless you exist in a very small bubblesphere
[23:47:52] <Sulla> if thats any better
[23:48:00] <Sulla> west coast being usa
[23:48:27] <Deucalion> Quelle surpise and thanks for the demonstration
[23:48:31] <Sulla> I rarely use liberal in the correct british way
[23:49:07] <Sulla> For that I would state classical liberal
[23:49:50] <Deucalion> there is no correct, that was not my point. We use words in different ways hence my suggestion of agreed lexicon for discussion purposes.
[23:50:08] <Sulla> I'm for it
[23:53:42] <Deucalion> "west coast hippy" for me just says.... someone stuck in their way for 40 years or more shaking fist at the clouds for moving in the sky.
[23:54:53] <Deucalion> Vent vent vent own frustration at those goddamn MJ smokers who no longer exist. It's like a ghost in the system.
[23:56:57] <Deucalion> I am all for the lexicon though. I'll no longer have any political or socio discussion with any US based personage because even the words we use have been malformed, misused, turned into triggers.
[23:59:25] * Deucalion makes Konomi Communist