#Soylent | Logs for 2018-11-16
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[00:01:28] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[00:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> been fighting gentoo package conflicts for three days now. almost got it licked
[00:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i could update dev while i'm at it.
[00:16:30] <Bytram> sounds like a puzzler
[00:16:38] <Bytram> good luck!
[00:16:42] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:16:44] <exec> Friday, 16 November 2018 @ 12:16 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[00:56:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australian MyHealthRecord Opt Out Period Extended Until January 31, 2019 - http://sylnt.us - Honeypots'r'Us-dept
[00:56:55] <Bytram> #g nobody goes there any more it's too crowdd
[00:56:55] <MrPlow> https://quoteinvestigator.com - "Aug 29, 2014 ... Nobody Goes There Anymore, It's Too Crowded. Yogi Berra? Rags Ragland? Suzanne Ridgeway? John McNulty? Ukie Sherin? Anonymous?"
[00:56:56] <upstart> ^ 03Nobody Goes There Anymore, It’s Too Crowded – Quote Investigator
[01:59:19] <Bytram> =g Iter
[01:59:20] <upstart> https://www.iter.org - ITER - the way to new energy
[01:59:29] <Bytram> =g Iter wikipedia
[01:59:30] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - ITER - Wikipedia
[02:02:24] <Bytram> =g tokamak
[02:02:25] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Tokamak - Wikipedia
[02:09:13] <Bytram> =g site:Soylentnews.org "Other OS"
[02:09:14] <upstart> https://wiki.soylentnews.org - HowToAcceptSelfSignedCertsForHttps - SoylentNews
[02:09:26] <Bytram> =g site:Soylentnews.org "Other OS" Sony
[02:09:27] <upstart> [0 results]
[02:09:41] <Bytram> =g site:Soylentnews.org Sony PS3 lawsuit
[02:09:42] <upstart> [0 results]
[02:09:47] <Bytram> =g site:Soylentnews.org Sony PS3
[02:09:47] <upstart> https://soylentnews.org - Facebook Launches Oculus Go, a $200 Standalone VR Headset ...
[02:10:16] <chromas> Were you looking for this sub? https://soylentnews.org
[02:10:17] <upstart> ^ 03PS3 Other OS settlement checks delivered: SoylentNews Submission
[02:10:18] <exec> └─ 13PS3 Other OS settlement checks delivered: SoylentNews Submission
[02:10:28] <chromas> Or looking for older stuff to reference?
[02:12:01] <Bytram> I saw the new sub in the queue
[02:12:09] <Bytram> and was looking for something to flesh itout with
[02:12:19] <Bytram> thought for sure we must have covered it before
[02:12:50] <Bytram> came up empty on those searches, so must have been mistaken
[02:14:02] <Bytram> found one! https://soylentnews.org
[02:14:04] <upstart> ^ 03PlayStation 3 "OtherOS" Class Action Settlement Claims End on April 15 - SoylentNews
[02:14:04] <exec> └─ 13PlayStation 3 "OtherOS" Class Action Settlement Claims End on April 15 - SoylentNews
[02:14:54] <Bytram> chromas: be my guest if you would like to run the story.
[02:18:01] <chromas> Probably will in a bit, if it's still unused
[02:18:23] <Bytram> all yours... I'm working on trying to sub a story
[02:18:27] <Bytram> should be ready in a fe wminutes
[02:27:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Remarkable' Decline in Fertility Rates - http://sylnt.us - not-so-many-men-are-having-children-either
[02:27:31] <Bytram> chromas: sub is on its way
[02:36:06] <chromas> Damn startups, taking industry jerbs
[02:36:38] <Bytram> chromas: s/ t/ m/
[02:36:40] <exec> <Bytram> <chromas> Damn startups, making industry jerbs
[02:38:10] <chromas> on your laptop story...does it have to be a laptop?
[02:41:11] <chromas> You could get more computer for the same $ with a desktop, and still have the lap for portability
[02:41:47] <Bytram> I have thought of that... but then I run into the issue of where is the authoritative copy of something?
[02:42:03] <Bytram> with a lappy, everything is with me, in one place.
[02:42:23] <Bytram> know messing around with the cloud (other people's computers) and the attendant security issues.
[02:42:30] <Bytram> s/know/no/
[02:42:32] <exec> <Bytram> no messing around with the cloud (other people's computers) and the attendant security issues.
[02:43:25] <Bytram> then again, I can offload a large chunk of storage (pics and vids) to a USB drive... cheap spinnyrust
[02:43:43] <Bytram> but, I do like to keep all my music in one place
[02:43:57] <Bytram> and I've got a few music vids now, too.
[02:44:03] <chromas> You can run your own 'cloud' on the desktop :)
[02:44:15] <Bytram> I tether my phone to get online
[02:44:32] * chromas lowers hat over heart
[02:44:37] <Bytram> and, though it has its problems, I get a new IP addy nearly every time I connect, which
[02:44:46] <Bytram> gets me some security by obscurity, too.
[02:45:00] <Bytram> interesting story: https://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:45:00] <upstart> ^ 03Trump in Spaaaaaaace: Washington DC battles over who gets to decide the rules of trillion-dollar new industry
[02:45:02] <exec> └─ 13Trump in Spaaaaaaace: Washington DC battles over who gets to decide the rules of trillion-dollar new industry • The Register
[02:45:35] <Bytram> not the usual El Reg piece... goes into quite a bit of detail on departmental rivalry and shenanigans
[02:47:04] <Bytram> chromas: BTW, I think I subbed most of the Upstart subs, so I shouldn't really push those out. But,
[02:47:35] <Bytram> if you were to make a first stab at 'em, I'd be happy to take a shot at a solid 2nd pass and help push em out onto the released list.
[02:48:43] <Bytram> break time; back in a few minutes
[02:48:51] <chromas> Can we have two polls at once?
[02:49:00] <chromas> Main poll plus a story poll
[02:49:04] * chromas tries on dev
[03:08:49] <Bytram> good question
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[03:12:21] <chromas> We can create a poll and attach it to the ps3 story and it only shows up there
[03:13:09] <Bytram> on the ps3 story?
[03:13:50] <chromas> oh, the sub suggested it could be a poll, so I checked to see if that part of rehash works
[03:14:48] <Bytram> well, never saw it used before, nor have I tried it myself, but does seem to work!
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[03:14:52] <Bytram> kewel1
[03:14:54] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 12°C/54°F, 7:14 pm PST, Thursday, 15 November 2018
[03:14:54] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 12°C/54°F, 7:14 pm PST, Thursday, 15 November 2018
[03:15:11] <Bytram> mechanicjay: Hiya!
[03:33:55] <Bytram> ~weather Mandora, australia
[03:33:57] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[03:34:14] <Bytram> ~weather west roebuck, australia
[03:34:17] <exec> 10Roebuck WA, Australia - currently 94°F / 34°C, sunny, wind W at 11 mph, humidity 52% - Friday mostly sunny (80°F:95°F / 27°C:35°C), Saturday sunny (81°F:93°F / 27°C:34°C), Sunday sunny (80°F:90°F / 27°C:32°C), Monday sunny (80°F:90°F / 27°C:32°C)
[03:34:48] <Bytram> ~weather australia
[03:34:50] <exec> 10Sydney NSW, Australia - currently 67°F / 19°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 14 mph, humidity 69% - Friday partly cloudy (58°F:67°F / 14°C:19°C), Saturday showers (60°F:67°F / 16°C:19°C), Sunday partly cloudy (58°F:67°F / 14°C:19°C), Monday partly cloudy (58°F:69°F / 14°C:21°C)
[03:35:01] <Bytram> ~weather perth
[03:35:03] <exec> 10Perth WA, Australia - currently 88°F / 31°C, sunny, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 34% - Friday mostly sunny (64°F:95°F / 18°C:35°C), Saturday partly cloudy (61°F:76°F / 16°C:24°C), Sunday partly cloudy (52°F:72°F / 11°C:22°C), Monday cloudy (50°F:69°F / 10°C:21°C)
[03:35:22] <Bytram> https://www.eldoradoweather.com
[03:35:23] <upstart> ^ 03World Daily High and Low 24 Hour Temperatures with Maximum World Rainfall in Fahrenheit and Inches ( https://www.eldoradoweather.com )
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[04:08:01] <Bytram> #g bedtime for bonzo
[04:08:02] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Bedtime for Bonzo is a 1951 American comedy film directed by Fred de Cordova, starring Ronald Reagan, Diana Lynn, and Peggy as Bonzo. It revolves around ..."
[04:08:03] <upstart> ^ 03Bedtime for Bonzo - Wikipedia
[04:08:12] <Bytram> Have a great night everybody!
[04:08:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Senate Report on CIA Torture is One Step Closer to Disappearing - http://sylnt.us - defer-deflect-deny-destroy
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[05:36:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ranked-Choice Voting Delivers a House Seat in Maine - http://sylnt.us - raises-a-challenge-only-after-votes-were-cast
[07:15:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How 'Miniature Suns' Could Provide Cheap, Clean Energy - http://sylnt.us - startup.wav
[08:57:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PS3 Other OS Settlement Check Delivered - http://sylnt.us - Shriveled-fruits-of-the-legal-system
[10:36:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber Posts $1 Billion Loss in Quarter as Growth in Bookings Slows - http://sylnt.us - taking-investors-for-a-ride?
[11:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:25:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4443
[11:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'm out for the day i expect. busy busy busy.
[12:13:59] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:13:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4444
[12:14:10] <Bytram> palindrome... and then some!
[12:16:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Canada Faces Cannabis Shortages - http://sylnt.us - supply-went-Up-In-Smoke
[13:56:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google's Waymo Plans to Launch a Self-Driving Car Service in December - http://sylnt.us - we-know-where-you-are-and-are-going-to
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[16:24:33] <pinchy> https://i.imgur.com
[16:32:36] <Bytram> =g MyCroft
[16:32:37] <upstart> https://mycroft.ai - Mycroft – Open Source Voice Assistant - Mycroft
[16:32:46] <Bytram> =g Mycroft moon is a harsh
[16:32:47] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress - Wikipedia
[16:32:56] <Bytram> =g Mycroft harsh
[16:32:57] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress - Wikipedia
[16:33:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> Mycroft was a HOLMES IV.
[16:33:16] * Bytram is trying to remember the full name of mycroft
[16:33:31] <boru> Mycroft Holmes?
[16:33:44] <Bytram> boru++ winner!
[16:33:44] <Bender> karma - boru: 27
[16:33:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Oh! Manny gave him that name because "Mycroft Holmes" was the name of Sherlock Holmes' brother in the Arthur Conan Doyle stories.
[16:33:56] <boru> The HOLMES IV thing was an homage.
[16:34:02] <boru> Yeah.
[16:34:11] <Bytram> yuppers
[16:34:20] <Bytram> has to be one of the best SF stories I've ever read
[16:34:45] <boru> It's certainly up there, probably top 10.
[16:34:49] <boru> (For me, I mean)
[16:34:54] <Bytram> same here
[16:35:54] <Bytram> before he went all Xanth-crazy, Piers Anthony had a most interesting series with his Incarnations of Immortality... really made me rethink many things.
[16:36:07] <Bytram> ditto with Asimov's rules of robotics
[16:37:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> I didn't find much of Asimov memorable
[16:38:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> His novels weren't bad in the moment, but I don't think I could tell you plot details or character names from *any* of them.
[16:38:19] <Bytram> hmmm
[16:38:39] <Bytram> good point, but
[16:39:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> But it's probably been 5 years since I last read The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, and I can still tell you that the main character is named Manny, his love interest is named Wyoming Knott, and his English gets better throughout the book.
[16:39:35] <Bytram> for example, with the I Robot series, though I remember very little (almost none, actually) if the story or dialog, I came away with a very strong sense of being careful wioth what look iron-clad safety policies that can come around and bite you
[16:39:52] <Bytram> Wy?
[16:39:54] <Bytram> ;)
[16:40:20] <Bytram> yes, the characters and circumstances are much more vividly portrayed in TMIAHM
[16:40:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> His nickname for here is "Wyo", because she says she'd be insulted "Wy Knott".
[16:40:42] <Bytram> I remember that
[16:41:13] <Bytram> maybe: heinlein painted a picture; asimov told a story?
[16:41:48] <Bytram> =g thomas covenant unbeliever author
[16:41:48] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - Wikipedia
[16:42:12] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:42:13] <upstart> ^ 03Stephen R. Donaldson - Wikipedia
[16:42:13] <exec> └─ 13Stephen R. Donaldson - Wikipedia
[16:42:46] <Bytram> the first three books were some of the most vivid I ever recall reading... the portrayal of the health of the area was so lush and verdant.
[16:43:02] <Bytram> much like what I felt when I saw Avatar in 3D
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[16:58:00] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 11°C/51°F, 8:57 am PST, Friday, 16 November 2018
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[17:08:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia Just Can't Grab a Break. Revenues up, Profit Nearly Doubles... and Stock Down 20% - http://sylnt.us - scapegoat
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[20:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Report Ranks Holiday Tech Gifts by Considering Privacy and Security - http://sylnt.us - watch-out-for-who-is-watching-you
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[23:35:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Giant Meteor Crater Found Under Greenland Ice Cap - http://sylnt.us - I-knew-I-shoulda-taken-that-left-turn-at-Albuquerque
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[23:41:34] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, 21°C/69°F, 3:41 pm PST, Friday, 16 November 2018
[23:42:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Ahh, I'm sure glad I voted Trump.
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[23:53:51] <chromas> Yes, we needed a good laugh. Soon we'll be back to our regularly scheduled politicians. In six years.
[23:55:36] * chromas can't decide if incompetent boob who's spending all his time playing golf and tweeting, or bringing on a transmisogyslamophobic dick tater ship