#Soylent | Logs for 2018-10-28
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[01:07:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twelve Mind-Bending Perceptual Illusions - http://sylnt.us
[03:35:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - One Out of Five Would Ditch a Business After a Data Breach - http://sylnt.us - perception-is-reality
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[06:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Study Sets a Size Limit for Undiscovered Subatomic Particles - http://sylnt.us - must-be-taller-than-this-sign
[08:38:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Around 62 Percent of All Internet Sites Will Run an Unsupported PHP Version in 10 Weeks - http://sylnt.us - what's-in-your-website
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[09:39:17] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:39:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4404
[09:47:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Around 62 Percent of All Internet Sites Will Run an Unsupported PHP Version after December 31, 2018 - http://sylnt.us - what's-in-your-website
[10:04:23] <Bytram> =submit https://blogs.scientificamerican.com
[10:04:25] <upstart> Submitting "The One Personality Trait That is Ripping America (And the World) Apart"...
[10:04:47] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:05:51] <Bytram> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[10:05:53] <upstart> Submitting "Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate | SecurityWeek.Com"...
[10:06:12] <Bytram> hmmm, will it resolve the redirection from the link?
[10:06:16] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:06:26] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[10:06:27] <upstart> ^ 03Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate | SecurityWeek.Com ( https://www.securityweek.com )
[10:07:02] <Bytram> Nope!
[10:07:12] <Bytram> =submit https://www.securityweek.com
[10:07:14] <upstart> Submitting "Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate | SecurityWeek.Com"...
[10:07:36] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:08:40] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[10:08:41] <upstart> ^ 03Hyperloop startup says construction on Abu Dhabi track will commence in Q3 2019 ( https://arstechnica.com )
[10:09:29] <Bytram> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[10:09:31] <upstart> Submitting "Hyperloop startup says construction on Abu Dhabi track will commence in Q3 2019"...
[10:09:53] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:11:00] * chromas reads every declined sub email for the bot
[10:19:48] <Bytram> =g decline verb
[10:19:48] <upstart> https://www.merriam-webster.com - Decline | Definition of Decline by Merriam-Webster
[10:24:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:24:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4405
[10:51:01] <Bytram> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[10:51:03] <upstart> Submitting "He moved to a jungle in India to escape his giant student debt — and he's not alone"...
[10:51:25] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:52:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> valuable lesson there. don't take out student loans. ever.
[10:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> any other kind of debt you can declare bankruptcy to get out from under, so take out another kind of debt, find a way to not take out any debt, or don't go.
[10:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Low Cost, Energy-saving Radiative Cooling System Ready for Real-World Applications - http://sylnt.us - cool!
[10:57:19] <Bytram> =submit
[10:57:19] <upstart> Submit text to SN. URLs will be replaced with blockquotes. +URLs will be added to "also at" clause.
[10:57:22] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theatlantic.com
[10:57:25] <upstart> Submitting "Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure"...
[10:57:47] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[11:01:22] <Bytram> =g paul vixie
[11:01:23] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Paul Vixie - Wikipedia
[11:03:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> radiative cooling?
[11:04:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what about it?
[11:05:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Low Cost, Energy-Saving Radiative Cooling System Ready for Real-World Applications - http://sylnt.us - cool!
[11:05:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf is radiative cooling? you can't radiate cold.
[11:05:42] <Bytram> Umm, you get the cooling by radiating heat
[11:06:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> this terminology offends my certified hvac guy sensibilities
[11:07:03] <Bytram> it's an adjective. It's a "cooling system". Oh? What kind? It does its cooling by radiating heat; it's a "radiative cooling system"
[11:08:07] <Bytram> as opposed to one that cools by conduction or convection, etc.
[11:08:19] <Bytram> =g types of heat transfer
[11:08:19] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Heat transfer - Wikipedia
[11:08:32] <Bytram> =g heat transfer radiation convection
[11:08:33] <upstart> https://www.machinedesign.com - What's the Difference Between Conduction, Convection, and ...
[11:08:56] <Bytram> yes, I did remember 'em!
[11:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it doesn't though. it's using convection unless they have it actively emitting em. "heat" cannot radiate.
[11:11:03] <Bytram> those two statements are in opposition to each other. Actively emitting EM *is* radiating energy aka heat.
[11:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but em is not heat
[11:11:30] <Bytram> I dare's ya to stand in front of a microwave horn for a while
[11:11:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> IR causes heat when it hits matter but it isn't heat in and of itself.
[11:12:02] <Bytram> okaaay, what IS heat?
[11:12:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> random molecular energy
[11:12:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinetic
[11:12:49] <Bytram> and how does that differ from temperature?
[11:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it doesn't
[11:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> you asked what heat was
[11:13:18] <Bytram> so you are saying heat == temperature?
[11:13:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> more or less, yes
[11:14:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> temp's how we measure heat
[11:14:21] <Bytram> that's like saying volts == amps
[11:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no...
[11:14:37] <Bytram> temp is to volts as heat is to amps
[11:14:45] * TheMightyBuzzard head desks
[11:14:58] <Bytram> 85 degrees is one thing; 20 calories is another
[11:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> temp is to heat as volts is to electronic potential difference
[11:16:05] <Bytram> volts IS electric potential difference...
[11:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're talking different aspects of heat/temp. temperature and calories measure two different aspects.
[11:16:19] <Bytram> no difference, no volts.
[11:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yes, that's why i said that.
[11:17:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> temperature literally is the volts of heat
[11:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> calories is the joules
[11:17:56] <Bytram> I can touch something at 5000F but if it is really tiny, have no problem. Ditto with a drop or two of liquid nitrogen. But, spend 48 hours in an ocean at 40F, and I could likely die of hypothermia
[11:18:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, see the above two lines for why
[11:19:32] <Bytram> so... we are in furious agreement?
[11:19:35] <Bytram> =)
[11:20:22] <Bytram> well, today is yet another work day for me. time to grab another coffee and get ready to head out the door.
[11:20:30] <Bytram> nice chatting with ya this AM.
[11:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> except for the difference between em and the random kinetic energy of molecules/atoms, ya
[11:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, enjoy
[11:20:38] <Bytram> lol
[11:21:14] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles and starts updating 142 damned packages on his system
[11:21:17] <Bytram> point some em at some container of gas and watch the molecules move around faster
[11:24:55] <chromas> NERD FIGHT!!!!
[11:26:16] <Bytram> chromas: gmorning! wish I could stay and chat, but I gots to get ready to go to work...
[11:26:50] <Bytram> I threw in some subs (using upstart... yay!) after posting a couple stories... hope the rest of ya can hold down the fort for the rest of the day and into the night
[11:27:01] <Bytram> ok, really gtg.
[11:27:04] <Bytram> ciao for now
[11:27:07] <chromas> =g'day Bytram
[11:27:08] * upstart genuinely copies an ExFAT volume of peanut butter & pickle sandwiches for Bytram
[11:27:14] * chromas will do some after dog loop
[11:27:32] <Bytram> =gday chromas
[11:27:32] * upstart unknowingly sodomizes a cloud of shadow bans with chromas
[11:28:05] * Bytram shoulda changed the pickle to jelly
[11:28:33] <chromas> =gday >beerage peanut butter & jelly sandwiches
[11:28:33] <upstart> Not a command
[11:28:34] <Bytram> hmm, on 2nd thought... that does not sound entirely bad. depends on the kind of pickle, methinks.
[11:28:41] <Bytram> anyway, laters.
[11:28:43] <chromas> derp
[11:28:44] <chromas> see ya
[11:28:50] <chromas> =gday >beverage peanut butter & jelly sandwiches
[11:28:50] <upstart> Added beverage: peanut butter
[11:28:59] <chromas> that's not right
[11:29:17] <chromas> probably because of the web script
[11:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, chromas, lemme steal your article text slurping code from upstart
[11:33:40] * TheMightyBuzzard wants to lazy rather than reinvent wheels
[11:43:08] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to get some vidya on while all the linux boxen in the house do weekly updates
[13:14:10] <FatPhil> now drinking Fuller's Vintage 2018 - wow!
[13:16:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Overtakes Amazon as Second Most Valuable U.S. Company - http://sylnt.us - money-money
[13:30:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: it's not bery good but I can paste it somewhere
[14:04:56] <chromas> https://paste.ofcode.org
[14:04:57] <upstart> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[14:22:37] <chromas> firefox--
[14:22:37] <Bender> karma - firefox: -15
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[15:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias, chromas
[15:11:38] <chromas> Hopefully you can make something of the mess :)
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[15:48:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paul Vixie on the Benefits of Running DNS Services Locally - http://sylnt.us - do-you-know-where-you're-going-to?
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[18:06:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Might Reading Make Myopic? - http://sylnt.us - everyone-switch-to-the-VT220-theme
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[20:27:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Americans Flee Student Debt... and the Country - http://sylnt.us
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[22:35:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Acquires Red Hat - http://sylnt.us - big-purple
[22:41:38] <Bytram> =g single system image
[22:41:39] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Single system image - Wikipedia
[23:20:14] <Teckla> https://www.cnbc.com
[23:20:15] <upstart> ^ 03IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion
[23:52:10] <Bytram> =g CSB
[23:52:11] <upstart> https://www.csb.gov - U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board | CSB
[23:52:18] <Bytram> =g CSB consumer
[23:52:19] <upstart> https://www.csbsju.edu - Consumer Information – CSB/SJU
[23:52:34] <Bytram> =g CSB consumer OS/2
[23:52:35] <upstart> https://www.csb.gov - U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board | CSB