#Soylent | Logs for 2018-10-12
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[00:46:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proof of Concept Attack Escalates MikroTik Router Bug to ‘As Bad As It Gets’ - http://sylnt.us - route-666
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[02:13:09] <Bytram> #g NIST
[02:13:12] <MrPlow> https://www.nist.gov - "NIST promotes U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing measurement science, standards, and technology in ways that enhance economic ..."
[02:13:19] <Bytram> #g NIST national
[02:13:22] <MrPlow> https://www.nist.gov - "NIST promotes U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing measurement science, standards, and technology in ways that enhance economic ..."
[02:13:33] <Bytram> #g NIST national science technology
[02:13:34] <MrPlow> https://www.nist.gov - "NIST promotes U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing measurement science, standards, and technology in ways that enhance economic ..."
[02:13:51] <Bytram> #g what is the NIST?
[02:13:53] <MrPlow> https://www.nist.gov - "Jan 5, 2015 ... The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) was founded in 1901 and is now part of the U.S. Department of Commerce. NIST is ..."
[02:16:24] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:16:28] <exec> 989 stories loaded
[02:16:28] <exec> story not found
[02:16:36] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:16:47] <chromas> #smake charter
[02:16:47] * MrPlow smakes charter upside the head with a dreidel
[02:16:50] <chromas> oh
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[02:19:45] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:19:46] <upstart> Submitting "Nice people finish last when it comes to money: Agreeable people who place less value on money at a financial disadvantage, study says"...
[02:20:08] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:20:40] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:20:42] <upstart> Submitting "3-in-1 vaccine against traveler's diarrhea"...
[02:21:04] <Bytram> from the Montezuma Endorsed! dept
[02:21:04] <upstart> Submit failed: This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.
[02:22:59] <Bytram> from the Montezuma Endorsed! dept
[02:23:01] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:23:03] <upstart> Submitting "3-in-1 vaccine against traveler's diarrhea"...
[02:23:25] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[02:26:12] <Bytram> #g movie "First Man"
[02:26:15] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(film) - "First Man is a 2018 American biographical drama film directed by Damien Chazelle and written by Josh Singer, based on the book First Man: The Life of Neil A."
[02:26:16] <upstart> ^ 03First Man (film) - Wikipedia
[02:26:37] <Bytram> #g movie "First Man" IMDB
[02:26:40] <MrPlow> https://www.imdb.com - "Ryan Gosling in First Man (2018) Dave Karger and Damien Chazelle at an ..... In the footage from 1968, unlike the movie, the LTV is seen coming to the ground."
[02:26:44] <upstart> ^ 03First Man (2018)
[02:33:33] <chromas> Was it good?
[02:37:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Military Grounds All F-35 Jets - http://sylnt.us - we'll-just-wing-it
[02:51:04] <chromas> https://arstechnica.com
[02:51:05] <upstart> ^ 03After throttling firefighters, Verizon praises itself for “sav[ing] lives”
[03:19:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleeps now. may be around some tomorrow but won't saturday.
[03:26:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI just created the 359th account on dev... and then hit the formkey limit again. will get ya some more tomorrow.
[03:26:28] <chromas> Bytram: create a cron job
[03:27:28] <Bytram> nah, is easier to just move my phone to a dead zone in my apartment for a couple minutes and then I get issued a new IP addy, and I'm good to go for another bunch
[03:27:40] <Bytram> good idea, though.
[03:28:28] <chromas> I can run your script too if you like
[03:28:59] <Bytram> the downside to that is that it also breaks my putty sessions, so I then need to re-login and re-kinit never mind ssh and so a few more commands to get access to the DB
[03:29:14] <Bytram> you got a windows box?
[03:30:03] <chromas> no
[03:30:10] <Bytram> it's a mishmash of windows batch along with ported versions of sed, grep, gawk, printf, and maybe a couple other things
[03:30:39] <chromas> are you scraping the html form?
[03:31:21] <chromas> Ah, looks like the api doesn't do new users
[03:31:24] <Bytram> I basically use wget to pull down a copy of the login page from which I can get a formkey; then I use curl to post a specially-crafted string with the details needed to create a new account
[03:31:55] <Bytram> s/login page/create account/
[03:31:56] <exec> <Bytram> I basically use wget to pull down a copy of the create account from which I can get a formkey; then I use curl to post a specially-crafted string with the details needed to create a new account
[03:32:04] <Bytram> s/login page/create account page//
[03:32:11] <Bytram> s/login page/create account page/
[03:32:12] <exec> <Bytram> I basically use wget to pull down a copy of the create account page from which I can get a formkey; then I use curl to post a specially-crafted string with the details needed to create a new account
[03:32:46] <chromas> Is it too complex to just modify the tables?
[03:32:46] <chromas> or write a server-side script that calls the new-user function
[03:33:33] <chromas> s/./💩/g
[03:33:35] <exec> <chromas> 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
[03:33:50] <Bytram> I *could* do the tables manually, but not entirely clear at all what tables get hit and with what values. users, users_info, and prolly others, too.
[03:34:14] <Bytram> so, I prefer to do it as similarly to what the system does so as to minimize issues/surprises
[03:36:02] <chromas> Have you gotten into PowerShell at all?
[03:36:14] <chromas> I noticed it takes at least 10 seconds to start up
[03:36:28] <chromas> oh yeah, I do have a windows box
[03:36:41] * chromas herps
[03:38:50] <Bytram> chromas: with what I've given you here, it would prolly be easier for you to write your own, from scratch, than to try and port what I wrote to linux. :(
[03:39:44] <Bytram> I very much DO appreciate the thought and interest, though!!
[03:39:48] <Bytram> chromas++
[03:39:48] <Bender> karma - chromas: 229
[03:39:48] <chromas> good point
[03:39:51] * chromas clicks the sauce
[03:44:39] * Bytram notices the time and wonders what he is doing up and still awake this late at night while he's on vacation, no less.
[03:48:38] * chromas wonders if there's a wait time between formkey and submit
[04:16:16] * Bytram decides it IS late enough to hit the sack
[04:16:21] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[04:16:23] * exec cantankerously deletes a caravan palace of the truth from chromas
[04:16:54] <chromas> ~g'night Bytram
[04:16:56] * exec unnecessarily rubs a tinfoil hat of spew on Bytram
[04:17:00] <chromas> Not my truths!
[04:17:21] <Bytram> !uid
[04:17:21] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7140, owned by popeyelmarino
[04:18:48] <Bytram> ~time x
[04:18:49] <exec> Friday, 12 October 2018 @ 4:18 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[04:19:17] <Bytram> laters taters!
[04:26:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Percentage of Young U.S. Children Who Don't Receive Any Vaccines Has Quadrupled Since 2001 - http://sylnt.us - vax>x86
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[04:31:59] <SoyCow1984> #submit https://motherboard.vice.com
[04:31:59] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[04:32:25] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[04:32:26] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
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[06:06:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemical Spills Put Italy's Underground Physics Lab in Jeopardy - http://sylnt.us - peligro
[07:14:42] <chromas> =submit https://techcrunch.com +https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/11/music-modernization-act-signed-into-law/ +https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/11/17963804/music-modernization-act-mma-copyright-law-bill-labels-congress +https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/11/music-industry-hails-passage-of-the-music-modernization-act/
[07:14:46] <upstart> Submitting "Copyright compromise: Music Modernization Act signed into law"...
[07:15:08] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[07:16:16] <upstart> me++
[07:16:17] <Bender> karma - me: 0
[07:17:36] <boru> I've taken to just buying music on sites like bandcamp. Not only is it orders of magnitude cheaper, but you get music equivalent of demos and shareware, and the quality is generally cheaper.
[07:18:05] <boru> Err, the quality is generally better, the prices are cheaper.
[07:18:08] * boru kldload coffee.ko
[07:19:43] <chromas> is kldload the bsd equivalent of linux's modprobe?
[07:20:01] <chromas> or is it linux from an older era?
[07:20:22] <chromas> internet says yes
[07:23:05] <boru> It's a FreeBSD special.
[07:23:20] <boru> It replaced the original kld.
[07:23:27] <boru> Err, lkm.
[07:27:08] <chromas> kldload systemd-bsdd
[07:27:41] <chromas> New poll idea: Favorite BSD
[07:29:05] <boru> Or favourite Unix-like.
[07:29:11] <boru> Guaranteed flamewar.
[07:29:32] <chromas> Then later, Favorite flamewar:
[07:29:42] <boru> I'll need to make some new user accounts though -- solaris_is_best, aixfan etc.
[07:46:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NIST Answers Whether or Not You Really Need A Blockchain - http://sylnt.us - Betteridge-knows-the-answer
[07:48:26] * chromas needs to speed up his sql searches
[08:09:28] <FatPhil> Favourite BSD? Dead!
[08:09:47] <FatPhil> mornin' all
[08:10:46] <boru> Actually, a good one for the favourite BSD poll would be putting crapintosh in there.
[08:11:26] <FatPhil> A particularly bizarre adaptation of BSD
[08:12:12] <FatPhil> g/f created the admin account on the mac when it arrived, as I was working away at the time. When I got home, it was *impossible
[08:12:22] <FatPhil> * for me to change the accounts username
[08:12:40] <FatPhil> the actual username was the primary key for everything, not the uid.
[08:13:13] <FatPhil> Solution - create a new account, copy everything over, delete the old account.
[08:13:30] <FatPhil> Wasn't fixed until about 10.5 or something.
[08:13:55] <FatPhil> So basically I hated OSX from within about 20 seconds of powering up into it.
[08:14:32] <FatPhil> On BSD - 'vipw' (or equivalent) - tap-tap-tap - bosh! - done.
[08:27:07] <boru> Crapple products are a walled garden.
[08:27:15] <boru> Where you are on the outside.
[08:29:26] <FatPhil> I did like the general idea of "an app is a directory" encapsulation.
[08:30:11] <FatPhil> other unixes splattering their shit all over /etc/, /var, /usr/bin, /usr/share, etc. is pretty crappy.
[08:32:06] <FatPhil> perl -e 'print("@INC")'
[08:33:54] <FatPhil> my new website is being developed on an ancient RasPi with a terribly slow filesystem, and perl hunting for libraries was a measurable part of the runtime.
[08:34:22] <FatPhil> Now using lua for critical scripts.
[08:38:35] <boru> Not sure why people use raspberry poos for anything, really.
[08:39:49] <boru> And, in the case of unix directory usage, if people actually followed the intent of those locations, it'd be fine.
[08:51:01] <FatPhil> how's the intent of /opt different from the intent of /usr/local
[08:51:21] <FatPhil> A house that is built on sand is destined to be pretty shaky.
[09:15:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Review: "First Man" -- In US Theaters Starting October 12 - http://sylnt.us - out-of-this-world
[09:17:14] <boru> /opt is a linux FHS special.
[09:17:25] <chromas> You don't need a good reason for a pi. It's supposed to be irrational
[10:10:40] <FatPhil> I first met /opt on some big-box box.
[10:19:00] <chromas> Are you using fastcgi?
[10:49:18] <FatPhil> nginx proxy -> starman-spawned plack-based perl dancer app
[10:49:53] <FatPhil> However, those web-pages are just a front end to a system of information management that could be invoked from anywhere
[10:51:36] <FatPhil> So basically, everything can be managed from the command line if need be. But an irc bot could be my interface, or mail, or - shock horror - the web!
[10:52:29] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:52:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4364
[10:52:39] <FatPhil> Yes, I am highly influenced by Dan Bernstein, and his separation into layers and different responsibilities.
[10:53:44] <FatPhil> boru: I'm not a RasPi fanboi by any means, quite the opposite. But the only other fanless credit-card sized SoC-based device I bought refused to boot.
[10:54:11] <FatPhil> I find booting to be a very useful feature in a computer. Not too often, of course, ideally just once.
[10:54:38] <FatPhil> All 3 of my Pis just worked great out of the box.
[10:55:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Take Off on the Longest Non-Stop Flight - http://sylnt.us - your-worst-nightmare
[10:55:46] <FatPhil> I'm pretending to be professional in my development - I develop and test on one Pi (the slowest one), and only when I'm convinced everything's good and stable do I upgrade the live machine (whihc is about 6 times faster)
[10:56:17] <Bytram> FatPhil: Good Morning!
[10:56:40] <Bytram> was wondering what 'speed' SD card you were using... have you found it makes a difference?
[10:56:55] * Bytram *thinks* it should
[10:58:50] <FatPhil> Bytram: Both are using the cheapest slowest uSDs I could find.
[10:59:07] <FatPhil> They were both just an experiment, but I kept using them
[10:59:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[10:59:17] <chromas> Need two SD cards in a RAID0
[10:59:34] <FatPhil> The plan is to buy a bigger faster branded uSD for the faster Pi
[10:59:35] * Bytram tunes his RADIO
[10:59:43] <Bytram> nodnod
[10:59:52] <Bytram> 3B? is that the latest?
[11:00:11] <FatPhil> I think I'm on a 3, dated 2016 I think
[11:00:39] <Bytram> k
[11:00:58] <Bytram> #g RPi GHz
[11:00:59] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The Raspberry Pi is a series of small single-board computers developed in the United Kingdom .... The Raspberry Pi 3+ uses a Broadcom BCM2837B0 SoC with a 1.4 GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 processor, with 512 KB shared L2 ..."
[11:01:01] <upstart> ^ 03Raspberry Pi - Wikipedia
[11:01:05] <FatPhil> [ 0.000000] Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Rev 1.2
[11:01:25] <Bytram> FatPhil: thanks!
[11:04:30] <chromas> What's the correct place to put files like sockets and my bot's cookie jar?
[11:04:42] <chromas> I had it in /run/ but it got deleted on reboot I guess
[11:05:14] <FatPhil> /var/ for 'variable data' so cookies go there
[11:05:21] <chromas> ah. thanks
[11:05:23] <chromas> FatPhil++
[11:05:23] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 32
[11:05:33] <FatPhil> sockets are runtime things, so in any tmpfs would be perfect
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[11:08:26] <chromas> =rehashctl login
[11:08:28] <upstart> k
[11:08:45] <chromas> woohoo++
[11:08:45] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 18
[11:12:11] <Bytram> !woop
[11:12:11] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[11:13:42] * chromas sneaks a 'naughty' dept in
[11:17:35] <chromas> Happy birthday, LSD!
[11:18:58] <FatPhil> ~submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:19:25] <FatPhil> #overthrowthebots #killallbots
[11:19:31] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[11:19:41] <chromas> We wish we could get their zaniness in the comments
[11:20:02] <FatPhil> A bot, a woman, a walnut tree - the more you beat them, the better they be.
[11:20:36] <FatPhil> -- trad.
[11:21:54] <chromas> only one nuts when you beat it though
[11:25:09] <chromas> Microsoft just can't win with the updates
[11:32:16] <FatPhil> oh, is the BSOD thing a different update?
[11:32:27] <FatPhil> if so, remove my comment
[11:33:00] <FatPhil> I thought updates were only once per month, and we had an october one only last week
[11:33:02] <chromas> KB4464330
[11:33:32] <Bytram> #g KB4464330
[11:33:32] <MrPlow> https://support.microsoft.com - "2 days ago ... Learn more about update KB4464330, including improvements and fixes, any known issues, and how to get the update."
[11:33:36] <chromas> There was the file deletion, then they re-released it only to have BSODs
[11:34:07] <Bytram> and it seems like a bunch of HP systems can't get a break (well, ARE getting broken), too
[11:34:14] <FatPhil> Javascript is disabled
[11:34:14] <FatPhil> Please enable javascript and refresh the page
[11:36:21] <Bytram> hrrm, what's that saying about incredible claims require ... support or something like that?
[11:36:30] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:36:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4365
[11:36:55] <chromas> Incredible claims require javascript to be enabled
[11:37:26] <Bytram> #g incredible claims require
[11:37:27] <MrPlow> https://rationalwiki.org - "Apr 27, 2018 ... \"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence\" was a phrase made popular by Carl Sagan. Its roots are much older, however, with the ..."
[11:37:31] <upstart> ^ 03Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - RationalWiki
[11:38:09] <FatPhil> I always get RationalWiki and EncyclopediaDramatica mixed up - which one's the funny one?
[11:38:46] <chromas> RationalWiki's the SJW one
[11:39:36] <chromas> Forked from Conservapedia for being too conservative, which was forked from Wikipedia for not being conservative enough
[11:40:20] <chromas> There's also Uncyclopedia if you like your humor with less raunch dressing
[11:53:34] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:53:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4366
[11:58:57] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:58:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4367
[11:59:05] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[11:59:08] * exec spontaneously pesters a container of Satya Nadella's anus with cmn32480
[12:00:26] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[12:00:27] * exec insensitively deletes a bootload of smoked salmon from bytram
[12:00:50] <Bytram> well, that's okay. The only kind of fish I really like is the kind that says "Moo"
[12:01:05] <cmn32480> lol
[12:01:09] <Bytram> Moofish, I call it.
[12:01:15] <cmn32480> I like the kind that comes battered in a bag in the freezer
[12:01:28] <cmn32480> and sushi
[12:01:35] <Bytram> One fish, two fish, red fish, moo fish... right?
[12:01:57] <cmn32480> that'd work
[12:02:07] <Bytram> howz thngz?
[12:02:17] <cmn32480> tired
[12:02:20] <cmn32480> verra tired
[12:02:28] <Bytram> #g vera bradley
[12:02:28] <MrPlow> https://www.verabradley.com - "Shop quilted bags and backpacks from Vera Bradley. In exclusive patterns, our colorful products add organization and fun wherever you carry them."
[12:02:32] <upstart> ^ 03Vera Bradley
[12:02:34] <cmn32480> but I get to take my oldest camping this weekend.. so that helps
[12:02:36] <cmn32480> howz you?
[12:02:40] <Bytram> Nice!!
[12:02:46] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[12:02:48] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD - currently 58°F / 14°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 13 mph, humidity 62% - Friday sunny (50°F:64°F / 10°C:18°C), Saturday scattered showers (46°F:61°F / 8°C:16°C), Sunday cloudy (56°F:63°F / 13°C:17°C), Monday showers (54°F:72°F / 12°C:22°C)
[12:02:56] <cmn32480> cool... but not awful
[12:03:00] <cmn32480> and maybe some rain
[12:03:05] <cmn32480> it'll be good
[12:03:09] <cmn32480> nice to get away
[12:03:13] <cmn32480> unplug for the weekend
[12:03:31] <Bytram> nice to get away? I'd say at times it is *necessary*
[12:04:26] <cmn32480> yes
[12:04:33] <cmn32480> I'm at boarderline necessary
[12:04:45] <cmn32480> necessary to have me comitted
[12:04:49] <Bytram> lol
[12:05:09] <cmn32480> "I'd liek to reserve a nice room over looking the courtyard, prefereably covered in foam rubber, pplease"
[12:05:47] <Bytram> there's a lot to be said for taking a fifteen-minute to an hour's walk. It probably won't fix everything, but can make a big difference in how I look at things
[12:05:58] <cmn32480> yep
[12:06:06] <cmn32480> and a weekend off will do my attitude wonders
[12:06:24] <Bytram> The most painful experiences have proven to be the most rewarding.
[12:06:36] <Bytram> yep, just beware of expectations.
[12:06:46] <cmn32480> that I'll sleep?
[12:06:49] <Bytram> "An expectation is a pre-arranged resentment."
[12:07:12] <Bytram> That *any* thing will go in a particular way.
[12:07:40] <cmn32480> my expectation is that I will sleep in a tent and (if I am lucky) get to have a campfire
[12:07:47] <cmn32480> thats it
[12:08:13] <Bytram> Be open to seeing that which has gone smoothly, seek the benefits that might arise from the current circumstances, and realize that whatever is going on, it, too, shall pass.
[12:08:19] <Bytram> that sounds about right.
[12:08:34] <Bytram> can always sleep (uncomfortably) in the car, if need be
[12:09:05] <cmn32480> if it comes to that.. I'm driving the 20 minutes to my bed!
[12:10:13] <Bytram> btw, firestarters made of rolled up corrugated cardboard in a tuna can and filled with wax work great! Was able to start a fire in the pouring rain with one, once.
[12:10:23] <Bytram> that's the attitude!
[12:11:34] <cmn32480> I have used those
[12:11:34] <Bytram> Scout camp. Counselor did not want to get out of bed in morning. Scouts carried bed AND him to the mess hall. Brought him breakfast in bed. And then left him there.
[12:11:55] <cmn32480> also paper eg cartons with dryer lint and wax
[12:12:04] <Bytram> good one
[12:12:30] <Bytram> the counselor thought everything was going great until he realized he was not wearing any pajamas, or anything at all, for that matter
[12:12:35] <cmn32480> there4 are a million of them
[12:12:40] <cmn32480> and some of them eve work!
[12:12:52] <cmn32480> lol
[12:12:56] <cmn32480> that's a great story
[12:13:00] <Bytram> heck with a fire then, just bring a million fire starters!
[12:13:33] <Bytram> It was at least a half mile walk back to his cabin. =)
[12:13:52] <Bytram> laughter++
[12:13:53] <Bender> karma - laughter: 1
[12:14:08] <Bytram> ~simpsonsdude
[12:14:54] <cmn32480> ~nelson
[12:14:56] <exec> 03: HA! HA!
[12:15:21] <Bytram> ~nelson
[12:15:22] <exec> 03: HA! HA!
[12:15:30] <Bytram> thanks
[12:15:41] <Bytram> scrollback and logs are SO useful!
[12:16:28] <Bytram> I may not remember the exact details of how I did something before, but once I've done it, there's a darn good chance I've logged what and how I did it, so I can more easily do it the next time!
[12:16:49] <Bytram> break time and...
[12:16:51] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:16:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4368
[12:17:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: Good chatting with ya, hope your day goes well and you get a few laughs along the way!
[12:17:24] <cmn32480> thanks bytram
[12:17:31] <cmn32480> yo have provided at least 1 good laugh so far
[12:17:36] <cmn32480> so things are looking up!
[12:17:36] <Bytram> was a pleasure!
[12:17:40] <Bytram> YAYS!!!!
[12:17:48] <cmn32480> have a good day.
[12:18:31] <Bytram> It's up to me how I choose to look at things. Some days I just want to wallow in my perceived misfortune. Otherdays, the buggers just cannot get me down. It's often the same kinds of stuff, just how I *look* at it that changes.
[12:18:42] <Bytram> mare sea!
[12:18:47] <Bytram> you two!
[12:18:50] <Bytram> umm
[12:18:53] <Bytram> ewe to!
[12:18:56] <Bytram> urhh
[12:19:02] <Bytram> woo woo!
[12:19:06] <Bytram> moofish++
[12:19:07] <Bender> karma - moofish: 1
[12:19:07] <cmn32480> lol
[12:19:16] <Bytram> success++
[12:19:16] <Bender> karma - success: 1
[12:19:16] <cmn32480> moofish++
[12:19:16] <Bender> karma - moofish: 2
[12:19:21] <Bytram> ROFL!
[12:19:39] <Bytram> What color is YOUR moofish?
[12:20:09] <Bytram> I don't know, but I've got too of them!
[12:20:18] <Bytram> ba dum, tish!
[12:20:26] <Bytram> laters
[12:20:44] <cmn32480> lol
[12:20:51] * cmn32480 giggles
[12:26:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Feds to Judge: We Still Think We Can Put GPS Trackers on Cars Entering US - http://sylnt.us - think-different
[13:56:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - James Murdoch Tipped to Lead Tesla Board - http://sylnt.us - tipped-20%
[14:04:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> any relation to Rupert Murdoch?
[14:11:30] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Strange! When I first read about the announcement, I thought it *was* Rupert! Was wondering what they were thinking when making that choice. Thanks for asking!
[14:11:56] <Bytram> #g "Rupert Murdoch" "James Murdoch"
[14:11:57] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "James Rupert Jacob Murdoch (born 13 December 1972) is a British-Australian businessman, the younger son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch, the chief ..."
[14:11:59] <upstart> ^ 03James Murdoch - Wikipedia
[14:12:20] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Looks like there is a relationship.
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[16:11:12] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[16:11:16] <exec> 849 stories loaded
[16:11:16] <exec> story not found
[16:11:33] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[16:11:35] <upstart> Submitting "Clues that suggest people are lying may be deceptive, study shows"...
[16:11:58] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[16:57:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mice With "Two Mothers" Can Survive to Adulthood and Produce Their Own Offspring - http://sylnt.us - trials-and-tribadism
[17:04:45] <Bytram> #g mars rovers
[17:04:45] <MrPlow> https://www.wikipedia.org - "A Mars rover is an automated motor vehicle that propels itself across the surface of the planet Mars upon arrival. Rovers have several advantages over stationary ..."
[17:04:48] <upstart> ^ 03Mars rover - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[17:05:11] <Bytram> #g mars curiosity
[17:05:12] <MrPlow> https://mars.nasa.gov - "Mars Science Laboratory rover curiosity exploring the planet mars - information, videos and pictures."
[17:05:13] <upstart> ^ 03Mars Science Laboratory
[17:05:48] <Bytram> #g mars curiosity XKCD
[17:05:49] <MrPlow> https://xkcd.com - "< Prev · Random · Next > · >|. Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com"
[17:05:49] <upstart> ^ 03xkcd: Spirit
[17:05:51] <upstart> ^ 03xkcd: Spirit
[17:06:30] <Bytram> #g Curiosity XKCD
[17:06:31] <MrPlow> https://xkcd.com - "< Prev · Random · Next > · >|. Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com"
[17:06:33] <upstart> ^ 03xkcd: Spirit
[17:06:34] <upstart> ^ 03xkcd: Spirit
[18:35:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - C-Section Birth Rates Increase by 75% in 15 Years - http://sylnt.us - labor-of-love
[20:18:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Avoids Talking About Android at Pixel 3 Event - http://sylnt.us - what-would-Commander-Data-say?
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