#Soylent | Logs for 2018-10-05
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[00:00:34] <chromas> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[00:00:37] <upstart> Submitting "Elon Musk isn’t on his Twitter leash yet, so he’s taunting the SEC"...
[00:01:00] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[00:01:04] <chromas> dangit
[00:01:17] <chromas> Well, next time it errors, it'll either say why or it'll crash maybe
[00:04:21] <chromas> #smake Bytram
[00:04:21] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a halfbrick
[00:04:24] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[00:04:26] <upstart> Submitting "Successful mouse couples talk out infidelity in calm tones"...
[00:04:27] <Bytram> ~blame
[00:04:28] * exec points at Bytram
[00:04:36] <chromas> I just saw the note on the fema sub
[00:04:36] <Bytram> and thanks for all the fish!
[00:04:46] <chromas> Check yo calendar, dawg
[00:04:48] <upstart> Submit failed:
[00:05:02] <Bytram> much bettah?!!?
[00:05:13] <Bytram> chromas: you talkin to me?
[00:05:14] <chromas> empty string?
[00:05:17] <Bytram> nod nod
[00:05:17] <chromas> Bytram: yes
[00:05:30] <Bytram> ~date x
[00:06:30] * chromas looks back 4 days to find October 30
[00:07:20] <Bytram> looks like exec has gone pining for the fjiords
[00:07:27] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:07:28] <exec> Friday, 5 October 2018 @ 12:07 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[00:07:54] <Bytram> chromas: So... what's wrong with the note I added to the story? I don't get it.
[00:08:13] <Bytram> ugh... typo
[00:08:29] * Bytram must have been taking subconscious typoing lessens from cmn32480
[00:09:11] <Bytram> #g ISS cost
[00:09:12] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The International Space Station (ISS) is a space station, or a habitable artificial satellite, in low .... 12 Orbital debris threats; 13 End of mission; 14 Cost; 15 International co-operation; 16 Sightings from Earth. 16.1 Naked eye; 16.2 ..."
[00:09:14] <upstart> ^ 03International Space Station - Wikipedia
[00:11:17] <Bytram> 500 error;
[00:11:19] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:11:21] <exec> Friday, 5 October 2018 @ 12:11 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[00:11:32] <Bytram> and, sure 'nuf... twas 10 minutes after midnight
[00:11:35] <chromas> The note had a typo too
[00:11:47] <Bytram> Internal Server Error
[00:11:47] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[00:11:47] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, admin@soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[00:11:47] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[00:11:49] * chromas = pedandick
[00:12:02] <chromas> I wonder if that affects the api too
[00:12:21] <Bytram> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[00:12:23] <upstart> Submitting "Doctor Who begins this Sunday: Here's what to know"...
[00:12:40] <Bytram> just got another server error
[00:12:49] <upstart> Submit failed: HTTP request returned status code 500 (Internal Server Error)
[00:13:13] <Bytram> looks like it does
[00:13:27] * Bytram tries another preview
[00:13:34] <Bytram> THAT one worked
[00:13:43] <Bytram> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[00:13:45] <upstart> Submitting "Doctor Who begins this Sunday: Here's what to know"...
[00:14:08] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[00:14:27] <FatPhil> any ideas how I might get root on my NAS? I've managed to create this setuid program, but it doesn't get me root:
[00:14:30] <FatPhil> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 462560 Oct 5 02:54 busybox
[00:14:51] <Bytram> is the volume encrypted?
[00:15:35] <FatPhil> busybox has the su app in it, and it behaves differently from the one in /bin
[00:15:45] <FatPhil> NAFAIK
[00:15:54] <chromas> boot a thumbdrive and put real su in
[00:16:17] <Bytram> I was thinking boot a thumb drive and rewrite/update the password file
[00:17:13] <Bytram> ISTR there are linux distribution(s) intended to assist with forensics / testing / hacking
[00:19:29] <FatPhil> i'm not sure it will USB boot. I could of cource just use a screwdriver tophysically mount it where I control it
[00:20:48] <FatPhil> i noticed that when mounted over nfs, I can chmod/chown any files I can see, but alas, I can only see one directory
[00:21:04] <chromas> can you chown .. ?
[00:21:20] <Bytram> ls -ltr ..\*
[00:21:33] <FatPhil> however, as a non-privileged user, I can ssh in, and copy world-readable things (such as busybox) into that nfs export
[00:21:44] <Bytram> k
[00:22:03] <chromas> Are you sure? Check your privilege.
[00:22:12] <FatPhil> chromas++
[00:22:12] <Bender> karma - chromas: 228
[00:22:29] <FatPhil> ooooooooh, that was good, and I hate you for it
[00:22:34] <chromas> Just tell it you're white and it'll let you do what you want
[00:23:03] <chromas> Can you pull out the storage and put it into a pc?
[00:23:06] <Bytram> so, if you wiped the drive, would that be white washing things?
[00:23:37] <chromas> Only if you write all FFs
[00:23:46] <FatPhil> chromas - that requires busting some friction welds, but is kinda doable at a push.
[00:23:53] <Bytram> foxy!
[00:24:08] <chromas> it's welded together? is it an ibox?
[00:24:21] <FatPhil> friction welds = plastic
[00:24:26] <chromas> oh
[00:24:33] * chromas doesn't know things
[00:24:44] <chromas> it's friction welded together? is it an ibox?
[00:24:53] * Bytram gets out a soldering iron
[00:25:03] <FatPhil> watch a youtube vid on friction welding - it's cool!
[00:25:06] <chromas> Does it have firewire?
[00:25:26] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[00:25:27] <upstart> ^ 03'Desperate' North Korea turns to bank hacking sprees to rake in much-needed dosh ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[00:25:31] <chromas> (assuming firewire even still exists)
[00:25:34] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:25:36] <upstart> Submitting "'Desperate' North Korea turns to bank hacking sprees to rake in much-needed dosh"...
[00:25:49] <FatPhil> don't think so, it's a pretty simple (cheaparse) nas
[00:25:58] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[00:26:31] * chromas should add randomized success strings
[00:28:10] <FatPhil> i have forgotten why i wanted root now, i think i'm going snile
[00:28:39] <chromas> sudo du
[00:28:43] <chromas> sudo su
[00:29:15] <FatPhil> yeah no sudo on it, alas
[00:30:45] <FatPhil> there is a binary called suphp, but only the webserver account can run that, and I've not worked out how to get php running on it
[00:30:51] <chromas> Does it have systemd?
[00:31:24] <FatPhil> i suspect systemd wouldn't even build for this, the kernel is ANCIENT
[00:31:45] <chromas> Time to upgrade to the latest, shiniest, CoCiest
[00:32:19] <FatPhil> Linux DiskStation110j 2.6.32.12 #5967 Fri Nov 3 17:20:31 CST 2017 armv5tel GNU/Linux synology_88f6281_110j
[00:32:35] <FatPhil> 2.6 - anyone remember that?
[00:34:18] <chromas> Back when slashdot was still a thing
[00:41:05] <chromas> Tree Style Tabs on Firefox is kinda sucky now. Must be time for pale moon
[00:44:08] * Bytram is on PM 28.1.0 (latest) right now... seems stable, but a bit sluggish
[00:45:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Podcasts Creator Program Aims to Increase Diversity in Podcasting - http://sylnt.us - maximum-strength
[00:53:04] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[00:53:05] <upstart> Submitting "Species-rich forests store twice as much carbon as monocultures"...
[00:53:28] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[00:55:10] <Bytram> whereto? https://twitter.com
[00:55:11] <upstart> ^ 03Dewayne Smith on Twitter
[00:55:21] <Bytram> whereto? https://twitter.com
[00:55:22] <upstart> ^ 03Dewayne Smith on Twitter
[00:59:58] <Bytram> #g dope
[00:59:59] <MrPlow> https://www.dope.com - "Premium streetwear designed in Los Angeles. Shop the latest Dope snapbacks, Dope tees, pullovers, and more from DOPE."
[01:00:00] <upstart> ^ 03DOPE | Shop Los Angeles designed Dope hats and Dope clothing
[01:00:36] <Bytram> that's a nope
[01:02:42] <FatPhil> derp
[01:03:19] <Bytram> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[01:03:21] <upstart> Submitting "House passes bill to require minimum standards for airplane seat size, legroom"...
[01:03:22] <chromas> yay, firefox tab crashed again while reading that ttweat
[01:03:43] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[01:03:45] <chromas> Why are there seats anyway? Just put the people into little cubby holes
[01:04:02] <Bytram> just roll 'em on in
[01:04:09] <Bytram> #yt rawhide theme
[01:04:09] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:04:11] <upstart> ^ 03Frankie Laine - Rawhide (Original 1958 Single Version)
[01:07:55] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:07:56] <upstart> Submitting "Newly detected microquasar gamma-rays 'call for new ideas': Cosmic accelerator in the Milky Way could help explain more extreme events at the centers of distant galaxies"...
[01:08:18] <upstart> Submit failed:
[01:08:32] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:08:33] <upstart> Submitting "Newly detected microquasar gamma-rays 'call for new ideas': Cosmic accelerator in the Milky Way could help explain more extreme events at the centers of distant galaxies"...
[01:08:56] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[01:09:38] <Bytram> =submit https://blog.adafruit.com
[01:09:39] <upstart> Submitting "The Apple II Source Code for the LOGO Language Found"...
[01:10:01] <upstart> Submit failed:
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[01:10:59] <Bytram> ~arthur 074390
[01:11:04] <exec> 1166 stories loaded
[01:11:04] <exec> attempting to submit story: "The Apple II Source Code for the LOGO Language Found"
[01:11:04] -!- arti|work has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
[01:11:35] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:11:42] <exec> 1165 stories loaded
[01:12:16] <Bytram> I think that's gonna do it for me.
[01:12:24] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!!!!!!!!
[02:18:09] <chromas> no
[02:18:26] * chromas turns his head to the side
[02:37:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blue Origin Plans to Deliver Several Tons of Cargo to the Moon's Surface - http://sylnt.us - the-gorgotron-approaches
[04:25:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SoftBank and Toyota Form Joint Venture for Self-Driving Car Services - http://sylnt.us - autonomous-automatic-automobiles…as-a-service
[06:55:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM's Latest Attempt at a Brain-Inspired Computer - http://sylnt.us - the-scarecrow-claims-dibs
[09:17:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Operations at the International Space Station Could Continue Until 2030 - http://sylnt.us - after-$150-billion,-what's-a-few-billion-more?
[10:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:12:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4348
[10:21:53] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:21:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4349
[10:21:57] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:21:59] * exec almost incoherently evolves a purse of cream pie from TheMightyBuzzard
[10:22:18] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[10:22:19] <upstart> ^ 03Researchers can now measure DNA we 'shed' to solve crimes ( https://www.cnet.com )
[10:23:36] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedirect.com
[10:24:00] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.abc.net.au
[10:24:00] <upstart> ^ 03How much DNA criminals 'shed' could unlock vital information
[10:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[10:24:21] * exec romantically pours a raid 6 volume of CoC for Bytram
[10:24:29] <Bytram> you win
[10:24:33] <Bytram> '!uid
[10:24:36] <Bytram> !uid
[10:24:36] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7136, owned by FarzinFarokhzadeh
[10:25:16] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Good morning!! Been meaning to ask ya... how's the remodeling going? Are the bees gone yet?
[10:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, got another week or two before the bloody beekeeper can get them gone.
[10:32:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> got the place decarpeted and working on making the stage go away but having to pull every nailed down hardwood flooring board up one at a time so as to save them is slow going.
[10:36:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[10:37:02] * Bytram is reminded of Henry David Thoreau's on Walden Pond where he saved all the nails
[10:39:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nails are hopeless but the floorboards are damned nice if they can be salvaged.
[10:41:06] <Bytram> well, yes. I meant it reminded me of the waste-not-want-not kind of thinking
[10:42:29] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[10:42:31] <upstart> Submitting "Publisher drops Tronc name, reverts to Tribune Publishing"...
[10:42:53] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:43:01] <Bytram> ~arthur http://www.abc.net.au
[10:43:05] <exec> 847 stories loaded
[10:43:05] <exec> story not found
[10:43:43] <Bytram> ~arthur
[10:43:45] <Bytram> ~arthur 24ba2c
[10:43:50] <exec> 847 stories loaded
[10:43:51] <exec> story not found
[10:43:52] <exec> 847 stories loaded
[10:43:53] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Researchers can now measure DNA we 'shed' to solve crimes"
[10:44:22] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[10:44:28] <exec> 846 stories loaded
[10:44:45] <chromas> Does it reload the stories every time it subs one?
[10:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's one of those "i have a lot more time than i do money at the moment" things, so i spend the time rather than the money.
[10:46:15] <Bytram> nod nod -- I fully understand the desire to save money
[10:46:22] <chromas> Taking all the fun out of the building
[10:46:35] <chromas> You could be making the kids do plays and stuff
[10:47:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the baptismal with the plexiglass front is still there for public bathing
[10:47:54] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[10:47:56] <upstart> ^ 03Rubik's Cube Manipulation Using a High-speed Robot Hand
[10:48:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been saying we need a two lane bowling alley downstairs. we have the room.
[10:48:15] <Bytram> and a shooting range?
[10:48:27] <chromas> Nah, the school's that-a-way
[10:48:29] <Bytram> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[10:48:33] <upstart> Submitting "Imagine What This One-Handed, Rubik's Cube-Solving Robot Could Do With a Deck of Cards"...
[10:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, no teenagers come up close enough. it's at the end of the street.
[10:48:56] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:49:05] <Bytram> start shooting and they will come? /sarc
[10:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> well someone worth shooting would, i expect
[10:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned revenooers
[10:49:56] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:49:59] <upstart> Submitting "Weak passwords to be banned in California"...
[10:50:21] <upstart> Submit failed: This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.
[10:50:26] <Bytram> from the correct-horse-battery-staple dept
[10:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> governmental involvement in system administration... what could possibly go wrong?
[10:50:37] <Bytram> chromas: ^^ huh what?
[10:50:41] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:50:44] <upstart> Submitting "Weak passwords to be banned in California"...
[10:50:47] <chromas> Rehash output
[10:51:06] <upstart> Submit failed: You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later.
[10:51:15] <Bytram> yeah, but if you just got the reskey, and it is already invalid... or is there an initialization error there?
[10:51:18] <chromas> If you don't wait for whatever random long enough time, it gets the same reskey as before
[10:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you require more lesbian gas
[10:51:44] <Bytram> so, just check if it came back same as before and, if so, wait a sec and try again; repeat as needede
[10:51:52] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:51:55] <upstart> Submitting "Weak passwords to be banned in California"...
[10:51:58] <Bytram> scrollback++
[10:51:58] <Bender> karma - scrollback: 2
[10:52:11] <chromas> I could make it try to getting a reskey over and over until it's a new one
[10:52:17] <upstart> Submit failed: You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later.
[10:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you cache the reskeys?
[10:52:39] <chromas> nope
[10:52:42] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:52:44] <upstart> Submitting "Weak passwords to be banned in California"...
[10:52:48] <Bytram> ~bytram
[10:52:54] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[10:52:55] <chromas> but that last one sounds like a new key but 21 sex wasn't enough wait time
[10:53:06] <upstart> Submit failed: You must wait a little bit before using this resource; please try again later.
[10:53:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause MrPlow *always* gets a new one
[10:53:49] <Bytram> btw, my new 43" tv is working out pretty well as a new monitor, all things considered... would be nice if I had a 4K source for it, but works fine for 1920x1280p
[10:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> even during testing i never got it to give me the same one twice
[10:54:06] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:54:09] <upstart> Submitting "Weak passwords to be banned in California"...
[10:54:20] <Bytram> upstart: s/passowrds/bots/
[10:54:25] <Bytram> upstart: s/passwords/bots/
[10:54:31] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[10:54:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, check your hdmi cable. it may not be a high enough version to support 4k
[10:54:38] <Bytram> go figger
[10:54:46] <Bytram> oh yea, sure did
[10:54:56] <Bytram> ditto for the DisplayPort to HDMI adapter
[10:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[10:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> just can't get the vid card to output the correct resolution?
[10:55:20] <chromas> Does your vidya card have enough ram?
[10:55:25] <Bytram> but an NVIDIA Quadro NTS 160M (IIRC) doesn't have the grunt to do more than that
[10:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[10:55:47] <Bytram> main proc is a core 2 duo, if that gives you some idea
[10:55:53] <chromas> I thought Quadros were made for multiple displays, like 4–6
[10:56:11] <Bytram> later models, maybe, and this is a *mobile* part
[10:56:33] <Bytram> coffee++ back in a bit
[10:56:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4350
[10:56:39] <chromas> in your lap?
[10:56:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yep, it can do higher analog resolution but 1920x1200 is max digital
[10:56:54] <FatPhil> coffee*=1.4 https://www.bloomberg.com
[10:56:56] <Bytram> some day, the coffee counter will catchup with the number of stories that I have posted
[10:57:11] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[10:57:17] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[10:57:33] * TheMightyBuzzard leches some of FatPhil's coffee
[10:57:45] * Bytram hopes to break 6k by year's end, time permitting. Is gonna be challenging with the holiday season coming and extended hours.
[10:58:44] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I mentioned it before, but it bears repeating, I'm on vaca next week and then gonna be comparatively scarce as the holiday season proceeds. If there's something you want me to break, get it in the queue sooner than later.
[10:58:45] * TheMightyBuzzard hopes to break the site instead
[10:58:50] <Bytram> ~blame
[10:58:51] * exec points at Bytram
[10:58:53] <Bytram> *I* can do that!
[10:59:12] <chromas> He's gonna have you try to break your vacation
[10:59:20] <Bytram> that would be a break
[10:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nothing that i can get done enough to warrant testing by then, though there is some stuff that needs doing very badly.
[10:59:57] <Bytram> k
[11:00:28] <Bytram> otoh, if there's something that I can get better info on how it goes sideways (cover the truth table, so to speak/write) I'd be happy to help with that...
[11:00:47] <Bytram> am alreay planning to look into the loss-of-focus-after-moderation issue
[11:01:08] <Bytram> oh, /me never refreshed his coffee...
[11:01:09] <Bytram> biab
[11:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically we need to create another table or three to be on-disk tables rather than in-memory tables, so we can store untold numbers of comments/stories without worry and have smaller, faster indexes on the in-memory groups
[11:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> rotate all the archived stories/comments into the on-disk tables as they become archived and rework the code so that it checks the on-disk tables if necessary.
[11:03:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> also want to put a few more indexes on some of the tables so our most common lookups are faster.
[11:04:09] <chromas> There's a better way to do it
[11:04:24] <chromas> Instead of fixing bugs, why not rewrite? How about node.js?
[11:04:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if the storage format is xml
[11:05:14] <chromas> xml isn't cloudscale. You need mondo db
[11:05:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> to store the xml in, yeah
[11:05:40] <chromas> Good point
[11:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, time to fuck off and do stuff. i'll see about breaking things later.
[11:36:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cyanobacteria Found Deep Underground - http://sylnt.us - life-will-find-a-way
[11:48:32] <FatPhil> oooooops: https://answers.microsoft.com
[11:48:33] <upstart> ^ 03windows 10 (October 2018 update) (version 1809) deleted all my files
[12:02:03] <chromas> Good Guy Microsoft
[12:04:49] <Bytram> and time for me to get cleaned up and off to work.
[12:05:09] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!!!!!!! (Unless you made other plans?)
[12:09:17] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:09:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4351
[13:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Virtual Vloggers "Taking Over" YouTube - http://sylnt.us - animated-participants
[14:33:14] <FatPhil> coffee++
[14:33:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4352
[14:33:31] <FatPhil> I hear that haggis is now extremely cheap in britain... https://www.bbc.com
[14:33:34] <upstart> ^ 03Criminal probe over body parts 'pile-up'
[14:35:29] <boru> Kebab, morelike. Haggis is made in Scotland, whereas kebab shop owners in England have actually been charged with disposing of rape/abduction victims by mincing them up into kebab meat.
[14:37:18] <boru> Well, charged, not actually convicted, iirc, since the UK's judiciary system is a farce and are afraid to be 'racist'.
[14:38:42] <boru> Having said that, food controls in the UK are famously poor, so NHS clinical waste could well be in circulation.
[14:44:11] <FatPhil> we just had a salmonella scare in the 2nd largest egg company in the country, and the chickens from 7 farms are all being trucked down to Poland for incineration. (insert joke here.) As soon as I read that I said "expect cheap lasagna from Romania, via Holland, to reach the UK shelves in a couple of months"
[14:44:40] <FatPhil> we have a reputation to uphold, after all.
[14:45:22] * boru chuckles.
[14:45:40] <boru> Reminds me a bit of that foot & mouth disease lark 10 years or so ago.
[14:46:15] <boru> Millions of taxpayer's money put to all manner of mitigations, but still import beef from Brazil, where there are no such regulations.
[14:46:47] <boru> The EU CAP was a terrible idea, and cost us Atlantics our fisheries.
[14:47:06] <boru> Now, most of the edible Atlantic fish are going extinct because of overfishing by the meds.
[14:48:06] <boru> Too bad idiots across the EU voted in the Lisbon treaty in droves.
[14:48:27] <boru> Well, voted it in again.
[14:49:17] <FatPhil> I never understood why meat that was raised in the antipodes cost less than the same animal from 100km up the M4. There's something fundamentally wrong somewhere in the system.
[14:49:22] <boru> The Irish people "didn't understand what they were voting for, when the majority voted 'no', so let's vote on it again" *cue hundreds of thousands of euros spent on a FUD campaign to get people to vote yes*
[14:49:42] <boru> Indeed there is.
[14:51:09] <FatPhil> Then again, there are trucks containing nothing but rolls of toilet paper - so even if fully laden, still rather light - trundling though Estonia every day going from Poland to Finland. That's not the most stupid part, which is that that toilet paper is made from Finnish lumber.
[14:52:01] <boru> Poland seems to be pivotal in all of this; everyone else in Europe seems to be propping up their economy.
[14:52:10] <boru> Ireland buys potatoes from Poland, FFS.
[15:22:56] <pinchy> muh global economy
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[19:30:46] <chromas> That decrement had better be because of the singing and not the fat, ya bigot
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[23:51:55] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[23:54:00] <Bytram> #g calciphylactic
[23:54:01] <MrPlow> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov - "J Pathol. 1984 Jan;142(1):7-13. Cutaneous calciphylactic reactions in the mouse and the rat and the effects of diphosphonates on the reaction in the rat. Miller S ..."
[23:54:02] <upstart> ^ 03Cutaneous calciphylactic reactions in the mouse and the rat and the effects of diphosphonates on the reaction in the rat. - PubMed - NCBI
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