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[00:46:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ‘Stop BEZOS’ Bill to tax Amazon for Underpaying Workers - http://sylnt.us - corporations-are-people-too
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[01:15:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Food for the City – from the City - http://sylnt.us - I'd-eat-it
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[02:45:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Tests Extension Recommendations (again) in Firefox Nightly - http://sylnt.us - I-can-recommend-them-something:-don't
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[04:17:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Carbon in Color: First-ever Colored Thin Films of Nanotubes Created - http://sylnt.us - I'd-watch-them
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[04:26:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Carbon in Color: First-Ever Colored Thin Films of Nanotubes Created - http://sylnt.us - I'd-watch-them
[05:57:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Urban Wind Turbine Wins UK James Dyson Award - http://sylnt.us
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[07:25:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Augmented Reality' Tools to Help Health Care Workers Save Lives in War Zones - http://sylnt.us - headset-screen-display
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[09:06:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Theranos to Dissolve in a Pool of Blood - http://sylnt.us - positive
[10:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:23:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4272
[10:38:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Space Chief Vows to Find "Full Name" of Technician Who Caused ISS Leak - http://sylnt.us - laika
[12:28:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Adds 32 GB UDIMMs to Memory Lineup - http://sylnt.us - thanks-for-the-memories
[12:29:42] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:29:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4273
[12:29:47] <Bytram> humidity--
[12:29:47] <Bender> karma - humidity: -9
[12:29:53] <Bytram> !uid
[12:29:54] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7093, owned by RICO
[12:30:00] <Bytram> #g RICO
[12:30:01] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for ..."
[12:30:02] <upstart> ^ 03Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act - Wikipedia
[12:30:13] <Bytram> this is not looking so good... ;)
[12:31:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> #g popehat it's not RICO
[12:31:28] <MrPlow> https://www.popehat.com - "Jun 14, 2016 ... I mean, not literally never. But I can say with a very high level of confidence that if you're asking me, it's not RICO. But it's an important case!"
[12:31:29] <upstart> ^ 03Lawsplainer: IT'S NOT RICO, DAMMIT
[12:38:29] <Bytram> lol
[12:39:50] <Bytram> brb laundry
[12:39:54] <Bytram> .aundry
[13:04:46] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: enjoy https://gitlab.com
[13:04:47] <upstart> ^ 03datetime_to_epoch() ($1751728) · Snippets
[13:19:40] <Bytram> clicky
[13:20:07] * Bytram enables gitlab
[13:20:11] * Bytram enables gitlab-static
[13:21:36] <Bytram> hrrrm
[13:22:49] * Bytram is curious what happens with: 2018-11-04 01:30:00
[13:23:25] <Bytram> seeing as, in the USA, there will be TWO of those as *local* time when folk turn their clocks back for DST: https://www.timeanddate.com
[13:23:25] <upstart> ^ 03Daylight Saving Time 2018 in the United States
[13:23:34] <Konomi> it just does what it says xP
[13:24:00] <Bytram> so, ya gets to see the same epoch twice, just wait an hour and... there it is AGAIN!
[13:24:29] * Bytram HOPES he is misunderstanding somewthing
[13:24:34] <Bytram> s/w//
[13:24:36] <exec> <Bytram> HOPES he is misunderstanding something
[13:25:41] <Konomi> change the date times if you want a different one...
[13:25:44] <Bytram> another good test local date/time would be (the non-existent) 2018-05-11 02:30:00
[13:26:06] <Konomi> did that handles it
[13:26:12] <Bytram> spring forward from 02:00 to 03:00 and that whole hour (in local time) does not exist
[13:26:23] <Konomi> though should probably move more of the code into the eval and be lazy
[13:26:40] <Bytram> or provide a TZ environment variable or something
[13:26:44] <Bytram> #g tz
[13:26:44] <MrPlow> https://www.tz.de - "Das Nachrichtenportal der tz, Münchens führender Kaufzeitung. Aktuelle News aus München, zum FC Bayern, TSV 1860 München sowie zu Politik, Wirtschaft, ..."
[13:26:47] <upstart> ^ 03Nachrichten aus München und Bayern - tz online
[13:26:47] <Bytram> lol
[13:26:54] <Bytram> #g tz time zone variable
[13:26:55] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "This is a list of time zones in the tz database release 2017c. The list is derived from the zones, ... Zone name used in value of TZ environment variable. # 4."
[13:26:56] <upstart> ^ 03List of tz database time zones - Wikipedia
[13:31:38] <Bytram> but, even then, it is non-deterministic which of the two passes through the "Fall Back" hour one is in. (Imagine a machine resuming from hibernation at a point 30 minutes before or midway between those two endpoints)
[13:34:48] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[13:34:50] <exec> 10Humboldt, TN - currently 77°F / 25°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 86% - Thursday scattered thunderstorms (70°F:87°F / 21°C:31°C), Friday scattered thunderstorms (71°F:89°F / 22°C:32°C), Saturday thunderstorm (69°F:86°F / 21°C:30°C), Sunday thunderstorm (64°F:80°F / 18°C:27°C)
[13:35:20] <Bytram> #g Tropical Depression Gordon
[13:35:20] <MrPlow> https://www.cbsnews.com - "1 day ago ... DAUPHIN ISLAND, Ala. -- Tropical Storm Gordon never became a hurricane but it was deadly all the same, killing a baby by blowing a tree ..."
[13:35:21] <upstart> ^ 03Florida baby killed by falling tree as Gordon slams Gulf states
[13:36:47] <Bytram> looks like buzz will be spared a direct hit from the storm... yay!
[13:38:48] <Bytram> https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com
[13:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i'm inland enough it's just a bunch of rain if it hits me.
[13:46:56] <Konomi> here you go Bytram xP
[13:46:57] <Konomi> https://gitlab.com
[13:46:58] <upstart> ^ 03datetime_to_epoch() ($1751728) · Snippets
[13:47:21] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:47:36] <Konomi> lazy eval go
[13:48:36] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: no thoughts ;p
[13:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. i need to set up a cron job for cert monkeying on my lan.
[13:49:09] <Konomi> why would anyone use anything but letsencrypt now ;p ?
[13:49:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i've no issue with it for a personal script. you'd need a good smake for distributing it though. =P
[13:49:25] <Konomi> eh why?
[13:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do use le but it's a pain to pass one cert around to multiple boxen
[13:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> eval
[13:49:43] <Konomi> can;t be helped
[13:49:59] <Konomi> not without an excess amount of validation on the input
[13:50:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly. production code should use the validation.
[13:50:46] <Konomi> also eval is perfectly fine on perl ;p
[13:50:57] <Konomi> since it's not even named propertly anyway
[13:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> for a personal script there's nothing wrong with it though
[13:51:07] <Konomi> also a lot of modules that use other modules have eval in them
[13:51:17] <Konomi> seen it a lot in popular modules on cpan
[13:51:25] * TheMightyBuzzard is anal about production code
[13:51:40] <Konomi> simply because a lot of modules love to die die die
[13:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> warn and return undef would be preferred to die
[13:52:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> in most cases
[13:52:26] <Konomi> I didn't write Time::Local or localtime so ~
[13:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:52:44] <Konomi> the core perl team did lol
[13:53:07] <Konomi> I'm guessing they use die because the data would become tainted if they didn't
[13:53:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably has something to do with me having to maintain rehash here. very specific error messages are my friends.
[13:53:16] <Konomi> but that should be up to the person writing it shrug
[13:53:32] <Konomi> oh I have to deal with perl 5.10 sometimes TheMightyBuzzard that so fun
[13:53:47] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind using old perl but it does require some rejiggering of the brain.
[13:54:07] <Konomi> where there is no Time::Piece
[13:54:09] <Konomi> that was fun
[13:54:43] <Konomi> or was it Date:: something
[13:54:48] <Konomi> either way that was annoying
[13:55:15] <Konomi> some dirt old centos server that my boss likes keeping dirt old
[13:55:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> first billing/accounts system i did was for a game back in the 90s when perl5 was shiny and new. had to write most of my own modules.
[13:55:47] <Konomi> actually no now I recall
[13:56:00] <Konomi> the version of centos that has perl 5.10 just lacks certain core modules
[13:56:09] <Konomi> even though they were supposed to be with that version
[13:56:14] <Konomi> I was very pissed at the time
[13:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cpan fwt
[13:56:31] <Konomi> oh that reminds me
[13:56:46] <Konomi> I wonder if IO::Socket::SSL fixed their compiling on Strawberry Perl
[13:56:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idear
[13:58:49] <Konomi> odd apparentrly my efi has virtualisation off byt defualt
[13:58:52] <Konomi> brb ;p
[14:05:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The U.S. Geological Survey is Beginning to Take a Serious Look at Asteroid Mining - http://sylnt.us - making-claims
[14:14:05] <Konomi> hey it works now
[14:14:33] <Konomi> Building and testing IO-Socket-SSL-2.059 ... OK
[14:14:33] <Konomi> Successfully tested IO-Socket-SSL-2.059
[14:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, got to talk business on the phone. back later.
[14:17:33] <Konomi> have fun *hides*
[14:20:03] <Konomi> hmm might be that my pc just doesn't hae the race condition needed now
[14:20:05] <Konomi> https://github.com
[14:20:06] <upstart> ^ 03t\verify_fingerprint.t occasionally hangs when run via `nmake test` · Issue #30 · noxxi/p5-io-socket-ssl
[15:21:33] <Konomi> https://gitlab.com
[15:21:34] <upstart> ^ 03datetime_to_epoch() ($1751728) · Snippets
[15:21:36] <Konomi> messed around more ~
[15:35:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The History of a Security Hole - http://sylnt.us - Security-is-hard,-mmmmkay?
[15:35:57] <cmn32480> coffee++
[15:35:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4274
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[17:26:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kratom – an Emerging Herbal Drug - http://sylnt.us - more-science-needed
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[18:55:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Biologists Report 8,000 New Antibiotic Combinations Surprisingly Effective - http://sylnt.us - a-small-ray-of-hope
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[19:07:53] <Bytram> afk
[19:29:51] <cmn32480> Sarah Sanders accused an Anonymous Coward of the NYT op-ed...
[19:29:59] * cmn32480 starts checking the AC lists...
[20:37:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Snap Gives Spectacles a Face Lift to Look More Like Traditional Sunglasses - http://sylnt.us - loo'd-adventures
[20:40:30] * Bytram notes his AC is not working... ~90F and 90% humidity atm
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[22:17:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Hospitals Band Together to Form Civica Rx, a Non-Profit Pharmaceutical Company - http://sylnt.us - sudden-outbreak-of-common-sense?
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[23:56:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Navy Looks to "Artificial Blubber" to Protect Divers - http://sylnt.us - krypton-ite