#Soylent | Logs for 2018-09-05
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[01:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NordVPN Responds to Privacy and Ownership Allegations - http://sylnt.us - eyerim
[01:29:30] * Bytram shambles in and takes a look at the story queue... lookslike it needs help
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[03:39:15] <chromas> https://www.yaktrinews.com
[03:39:16] <upstart> ^ 03Police arrest man for sexually assaulting beaver in Columbia Park
[03:39:20] <chromas> https://www.facebook.com
[03:39:23] <upstart> ^ 03Michael Yon
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[04:38:10] <chromas> sol? Is it sunny there?
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[09:17:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Antioxidant Reduces Risk for Second Heart Attack, Stroke - http://sylnt.us - pom-wonderful
[10:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4268
[10:46:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Harvard Business School Professor: Half of American Colleges Will Be Bankrupt in 10 to 15 Years - http://sylnt.us - will-Harvard-be-one-of-them?
[11:14:27] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:14:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4269
[11:21:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:21:52] * exec irrevocably imagines a bunch of Ray's cysts with Bytram
[11:22:05] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:22:07] * exec nonchalantly instantiates a wad of phantom power for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:22:16] <Bytram> I lost
[11:24:55] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:24:55] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[11:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i needs more coffees this morning
[11:25:09] <Bytram> !uid
[11:25:09] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 7091, owned by pai9909
[11:25:19] <Bytram> a new one!
[11:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:25:36] * TheMightyBuzzard does some db digging
[11:25:51] * Bytram goes to update the beg-o-meter
[11:28:13] <Bytram> legcramps--
[11:28:13] <Bender> karma - legcramps: -2
[11:29:04] <Bytram> looks like I had already update the beg-o-meter... we are up to date.
[11:29:08] <Bytram> nvm
[11:33:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like around 2K registered users have used the site while logged in in the past year.
[11:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea how many have used it anonymously. there's no way to tell given that everyone has multiple computing devices nowadays.
[11:37:58] <Bytram> neat!
[11:43:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Silly question about your new place... have you checked what kind of electrical service you have? 200 amp? Hmmm, come tothink of it, you prolly have 20-amp lines to all the receptacles given it was "commercial" construction... that'd be a plus!
[11:44:36] <Bytram> (Though, depending on how old it is, I could see how all the lines in the basement might be surface mount.)
[11:45:06] * Bytram spent a summer long ago working as an electrician's helper -- fantastic learning experience!
[11:45:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> 200 amp. we will definitely need an additional panel eventually and pretty much all the circuits are going to have to be rerun given the amount of remodeling happening.
[11:45:21] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:45:30] <Bytram> hmm, what was that called again?
[11:45:34] <Bytram> #g BMX cable
[11:45:34] <MrPlow> https://www.sourcebmx.com - "Products 1 - 52 of 52 ... BMX Brake Cables and Gyro Cables and Gyros with the best prices and huge stocks. Lots of popular options and colours available Free P ..."
[11:45:40] <Bytram> nope
[11:46:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> not an issue though. TR worked as an electrician for almost 20 years before he got this job.
[11:46:13] <Bytram> Noice!!
[11:46:25] <Bytram> #g BX cable
[11:46:26] <MrPlow> https://www.thespruce.com - "Mar 17, 2018 ... Guide to the basics of metal clad, armored BX cable and wiring and comparing it to Romex style, or NM, cable."
[11:46:26] <upstart> ^ 03BX Cable: Comprehensive Guide to Armored Electrical Wire
[11:46:30] <Bytram> Ta dah!
[11:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea how he's going to want to do the runs but i'm not going to argue with him about it.
[11:49:11] <Bytram> wow... that was back in the late 1980's! /me is amazed he actually remembered that!
[11:49:40] <Bytram> well, either way... best of luck to ya!
[11:49:52] <Bytram> time to gets me ready for work
[12:17:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Pioneer a New Way to Turn Sunlight Into Fuel - http://sylnt.us - artificial-chlorophyl
[12:24:44] <Bytram> and... we're off!
[12:24:50] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[12:50:38] <cmn32480> ~gday the
[12:50:40] * exec inadequately scissors a trunk of turducken for the
[12:50:42] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:50:44] * exec defiantly cropdusts dumpster full of procedural shits over TheMightyBuzzard
[12:50:49] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:50:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4270
[12:54:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:54:23] * exec curiously reverse-engineers a shitload of buck feta from cmn32480
[12:54:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you win
[12:54:37] <cmn32480> apparently
[12:55:02] <cmn32480> hows thigns in your world?
[12:55:23] <cmn32480> reasonable facsimile of decent/
[12:55:27] <cmn32480> ?
[12:58:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff i spose. bout to go sweat my ass off for a few hours working on the church.
[13:00:32] <cmn32480> nice
[13:00:37] <cmn32480> sounds like a fun way to melt
[13:05:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> not especially. hard work saves money but i've never found it especially fulfilling.
[13:08:10] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off to sweat lots
[13:45:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Admits iPhone 8 Production Issue, Offers to Fix Broken Phones - http://sylnt.us - iWhoops
[14:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> lucked out. no sweating this morning due to scheduling difficulties.
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[16:39:46] <cmn32480> I hate people
[16:40:17] <cmn32480> "I need you to create an account adn email for <insert new person here>
[16:40:18] <cmn32480> "
[16:40:28] <cmn32480> Me: "When do they start?"
[16:40:41] <cmn32480> Idiot: "Yesterday"
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[16:45:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> cmn32480: ugh.
[16:46:05] <cmn32480> yeah
[16:46:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that sucks.
[16:46:38] <cmn32480> I politely told her that IT requires at least a wekes notice as the computer often requires additional updates adn needs to be set up for new users
[16:47:06] <cmn32480> and I CC'd her boss on it
[16:47:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> we're still working on getting a defined onboarding process for new devs here, but we generally can get them an AD account, e-mail, and company computer on their first day, because we are not morons.
[16:47:29] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles
[16:47:42] <cmn32480> ]this is replacing a person who got canned in May.
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[16:47:48] <cmn32480> at whcih point they turned off the computer...
[16:47:54] <cmn32480> and it hasn't been updated since.
[16:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> it takes a week or two to get a new SN staff member all lined out but only because we're lazy and not paying much attention.
[16:49:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> and occasionally forget how to do it in the first place if you want to be picky about it.
[16:49:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, and is anybody getting paid to do that work?
[16:50:07] * TheMightyBuzzard just gave himself a 500% raise
[16:50:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> let's see, zero times zero...carry the zero....
[16:50:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup, still bupkis!
[16:50:47] * TheMightyBuzzard cuts AndyTheAbsurd's consultant fees by 75%
[16:51:41] <cmn32480> so I have the credential screadted..
[16:51:48] <cmn32480> and then the comedy of errors starts
[16:52:06] <cmn32480> I went to release all the patches for this maching that hasn't been on in like 5 months.. .
[16:52:20] <cmn32480> and I dind't specify that it was supposed to be ONLY FOR THAT MACHINE
[16:52:27] <cmn32480> so I released ALL the patches...
[16:52:30] <cmn32480> for all the machines
[16:52:34] <cmn32480> including the servers
[16:52:39] * TheMightyBuzzard bwahahahas
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[16:53:02] <cmn32480> and now my exchange server is crawling along... like molasses in winter...
[16:53:13] <cmn32480> trying not to become a smoking puddle on the floor
[16:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry to laugh but your pain is quite funny
[16:54:38] <cmn32480> yeah
[16:54:42] <cmn32480> the CFO thought so too
[16:55:13] <cmn32480> mail is flowing...
[16:55:17] <cmn32480> very very VERY slowly
[16:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> blame microsoft. it's their fault anyway for making updates so cocktacular.
[16:56:09] <cmn32480> no kidding, right?
[16:57:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean about the worst possible update in the linux world is a very old gentoo box (unless you use slackware, then gods help you) and that may take a while but it won't stop the box from operating properly while performing the update and it will need at most one reboot.
[16:57:59] <cmn32480> it has just had the CPU pegged...
[16:58:09] <cmn32480> though for the life of me I can't figure out why
[16:58:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably the malware scan
[16:59:02] <cmn32480> nah.. it already looked for updates
[16:59:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[16:59:39] <cmn32480> but diab;ig the virus scan is a good idea.. if I can get it to respond long enough to do it
[16:59:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mean windows defender, i mean the used to be an individual update malware scan that comes out every month.
[17:00:14] <cmn32480> malicious software update tool or some crap
[17:00:21] <cmn32480> that doesn't get applied
[17:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's the pancake
[17:00:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[17:00:39] <cmn32480> gets manually Not approved EVER
[17:01:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's still a separate update instead of lumped in with the big ole bulk update?
[17:01:19] <cmn32480> yep
[17:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder why.
[17:01:57] <cmn32480> so that admins can not apply it
[17:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that would contradict the brilliance of lumping all other system updates together.
[17:02:41] <cmn32480> true
[17:03:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it's just to confuse the fuck out of everyone
[17:03:07] <cmn32480> a fair point
[17:03:53] <cmn32480> oooo bank robbery in the town where I live
[17:04:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> either way, not being able to "nice -n 20 $update_cmd" is shit
[17:04:12] <cmn32480> "suspect escaped on a bicycle"
[17:04:19] * TheMightyBuzzard blinks
[17:04:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> are your cops on skateboards or something?
[17:04:56] <cmn32480> Segways
[17:05:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Conservative Web Development - http://sylnt.us - less-is-more
[17:06:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i want one of those but with a lift kit, mud-grip tires, a dixie horn, a brush guard, and longhorn horns for handlebars
[17:06:43] <cmn32480> Confederate Flag on the mud flaps?
[17:07:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> chrome trucker chick
[17:07:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> cmn32480: better than "a bank robbery in the building where I work" which is thing that happened to me once.
[17:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm a traditionalist
[17:08:09] <cmn32480> agreed on both counts
[17:08:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Yosemite Sam "Back Off" flaps would also be acceptable
[17:09:38] <cmn32480> Foghorn Leghorn?
[17:10:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> never seen flaps with him on it
[17:13:10] <cmn32480> Amazon dones't carry them... they must not exist
[17:15:04] <cmn32480> CPU is unpegged!
[17:15:11] * cmn32480 does the happy dance
[17:15:47] <cmn32480> and I jsut got an emial that was sent at 10:26 this morning
[17:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[17:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[17:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[17:17:52] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 651
[17:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> good warmup and now...
[17:26:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[17:26:24] <Bender> karma - naps: 86
[17:26:32] <SemperOSS> coffee++
[17:26:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4271
[17:26:54] * SemperOSS yawning when looking at TMB's napping
[17:27:39] <Konomi> tea++
[17:27:39] <Bender> karma - tea: 589
[17:29:41] <SemperOSS> Konomi: What's today's blend then?
[17:31:22] <Konomi> french earl grey
[17:31:45] <Konomi> want to try my new blend but I have a lot of tea waiting already
[17:31:55] <Konomi> need to get some more containers
[17:32:29] <SemperOSS> Educate me: What's the difference between French Earl Grey and the English (black tea with bergamot oil)?
[17:33:57] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:33:58] <upstart> ^ 03Earl Grey tea - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[17:34:07] <Konomi> "There are variations available including such ingredients as jasmine, as well as various flowers.[18] A blend with added rose petals is known as French Earl Grey."
[17:34:28] <SemperOSS> Ah, I see
[17:34:36] <Konomi> it gives it a more fruity taste
[17:35:26] <SemperOSS> I'm fairly OK with jasmine and rose petals but when it comes to fruits like blueberry, strawberry and such, I'm not so keen
[17:35:40] <SemperOSS> In tea, that is
[17:36:08] <Konomi> variety I get has "Black tea, flavouring, hibiscus, sunflower petals, rose petals, mallow flowers"
[17:38:44] <SemperOSS> I'm moving shortly, becoming "trailer trash" ... possibly without too much "trash". I'll have to cut down on my belongings and be careful with my selection of teas, so I'm interested in hearing about other people's experiences at the mo.
[17:39:22] <SemperOSS> And I seriously need to cut down on the coffee lifeline
[17:40:34] <SemperOSS> I wonder what the not-so-precise term "flavouring" covers in your French Earl Grey?
[17:46:09] <Konomi> I do wonder too I'll have to inspect the box sometime
[17:49:14] <SemperOSS> If it is listed in descending order of content, it's the second largest pot of ingredients
[17:51:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid internet. made me waste like 20m worth of nap time by distracting me.
[17:52:00] <SemperOSS> internet--
[17:52:00] <Bender> karma - internet: 1
[17:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, i have a technical question for you
[17:52:10] <Konomi> hmm?
[17:52:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> why do women feel the need to keep more than two or three kinds of tea around the house?
[17:53:20] <Konomi> um I like to try different flavours from time to timem
[17:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not something that bothers me but it does mystify me
[17:54:22] <Konomi> I mean it can lead to some regretful purchases but discovering new flavours is good
[17:54:35] * TheMightyBuzzard nods thoughtfully
[17:55:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> so like a literal teetotaler liquor cabinet then.
[17:56:26] <Konomi> also I normally have French earl grey at night and standard during the day
[17:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'about the only product i can think of that guys collect more than two or three flavors of
[17:56:44] <Konomi> I like night more less idiots and stuff to deal with
[17:56:52] <Konomi> so I use the better tea then
[17:57:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i dig earl gray and have it around the house but the jug in the fridge is always lipton. hot vs iced.
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[18:05:17] <Konomi> I suddenly feel like I did a flimsy job of explaining my tea hoarding oh well
[18:13:59] <Konomi> anyway, sleeping so I can code more c#
[18:45:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Could Bring New Features to Mid-Range Smartphones Before Flagships - http://sylnt.us - whatever-it-takes
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[21:00:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[21:00:40] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 96
[21:01:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> 8008135++
[21:01:15] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 97
[21:01:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> 8008135++
[21:01:17] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 98
[21:01:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> 8008135++
[21:01:18] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 99
[21:01:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> alright, that's a good number to leave it at.
[21:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's kinda boobs-with-tassles shaped
[21:18:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> also, you'd have gotten annoyed with me if I pushed all the way up to 1001. :)
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[22:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Announces CO2 Conversion Challenge, With Up to $750k Awards - http://sylnt.us - Potatoes?
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[22:18:13] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 24°C/75°F, 3:18 pm PDT, Wednesday, 5 September 2018
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[22:56:41] <everdred> How do mod points regenerate these days?
[23:31:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> everdred, ten points at ten after midnight UTC for anyone who's been registered a month or more
[23:33:09] <everdred> TheMightyBuzzard, thanks! Had glanced around the wiki but maybe not enough.
[23:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh we're lazy about updating that thing so it may be wrong anyway
[23:37:14] <everdred> I can't imagine it's that important today
[23:37:24] <everdred> versus when the site was getting going
[23:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not really. people just ask in comment/journal or in irc mostly.
[23:44:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> we try to keep it from being horribly outdated but not very hard
[23:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably because we used to have someone who was in charge of the wiki but don't now. if you feel like taking on the largely thankless task of keeping it up to date, welcome to it.
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[23:58:15] <everdred> I will... carefully consider it.