#Soylent | Logs for 2018-08-06
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[00:02:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Parker Solar Probe Set to Launch Next Week on its Journey to the Sun - http://sylnt.us - brilliant!
[00:16:27] <pinchy> fake news!
[01:36:44] <chromas> “I don’t know what we offered Amazon in terms of financial incentives, but I believe Amazon wants to see the biggest incentive package that any city will offer them,” said Leslie Pool, a member of the Austin City Council.
[01:37:12] <chromas> I wish I could offer things to people without knowing what I'm offering
[01:40:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When Your Uber Driver is a Spy - http://sylnt.us - do-you-speak-geek?
[01:41:03] <Bytram> It may not be quite as dumb as it appears... someone else was tasked with the financial incentive calculations while she, for example, worked on the infrastructure incentives.
[01:42:58] <chromas> According to the (racist) NYT, the negotiations are secrets
[01:44:01] <Bytram> #yt heatwave linda rondstadt
[01:44:02] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:44:03] <upstart> ^ 03Linda Ronstadt - Heat Wave - YouTube
[03:14:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Stunned as Medical Non-Profit Group Abruptly Ends Research Grants - http://sylnt.us - sad-news
[04:17:24] <pinchy> #yt yo momma so fat jokes
[04:17:25] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[04:17:26] <upstart> ^ 03100 YO MAMA SO FAT JOKES - Can You Watch Them All? - YouTube
[04:51:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Fakers Get Better at Covering Tracks, Security Experts Say - http://sylnt.us - cat-and-mouse
[06:19:52] <SoyGuest49257> ~weathe Tallinn
[06:19:58] <SoyGuest49257> ~weather Tallinn
[06:19:59] <exec> 10Tallinn, Harju County, Estonia - currently 66°F / 19°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 64% - Monday cloudy (60°F:70°F / 16°C:21°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (55°F:73°F / 13°C:23°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (65°F:80°F / 18°C:27°C), Thursday mostly sunny (70°F:87°F / 21°C:31°C)
[06:31:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Default OpenSSH-Portable RSA Private Key Encryption is Poor - http://sylnt.us - send-money?
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[06:39:12] <boru> Ed25519 for great justice.
[08:02:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Just Measured the Drought that may have Brought Down the Ancient Maya - http://sylnt.us - it-was-the-melange
[09:44:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wages and Benefits are Rising at the Fastest Pace in a Decade - http://sylnt.us - positive-news
[09:44:08] <SoyGuest49257> https://i0.wp.com
[09:50:27] <SoyGuest49257> hmmmm, maybe that should be an SN poll?
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[11:21:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fortnite's Android Version Bypasses Google Play to Avoid 30% "Store Tax" - http://sylnt.us - Just-give-it-a-couple-weeks
[11:33:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday y'all
[11:33:51] * exec theoretically crossbreeds an animated gif of Soylent Newds with y'all
[11:34:21] <boru> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[11:34:23] * exec irrevocably pours a 55 gallon drum of utils for AndyTheAbsurd
[11:36:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> so, I have been set an unusual task at work: a trivia game for my co-workers. I've decided that my topic will be etymology - the origin of words.
[11:37:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> So far, I've "yacht", "mesa", "okra", and "aardvark", but I want at least one more that has a well-attested non-English source.
[11:37:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> Got any suggestions?
[11:41:24] <boru> Hmm.
[11:41:48] <boru> Does slang count?
[11:42:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm in charge, I get to decide. What you got?
[11:42:35] <boru> Dig, as in the slang to understand.
[11:44:02] <boru> It's origin is 'tuig', the Gaeilge word to 'understand'; it's origin is supposedly from Irish immigrants in the United States living/working in the same neighbourhoods as black people, and picking up some of the language.
[11:45:02] <boru> For scifi credit, you could try 'robot' as well.
[11:45:23] <boru> i.e. the Asimov connection.
[11:45:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...dude I'd totally forgotten that "robot" came from the Czech word for "to work".
[11:45:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's definitely it. Anyone working in IT should know that, right?
[11:46:14] <boru> I thought it was more arduous than work, more like 'to slave' over something.
[11:46:39] <boru> Oh, on the note of Irish words, you could do 'whiskey' as well.
[11:46:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> wiktionary says "drudgery, servitude" so you are correct.
[11:47:17] <boru> It's an anglicised version of 'uisce' for water; uisce beatha, literally 'water of life', is the Irish for whiskey.
[11:47:46] <boru> Anyway, I've got to go to a meeting. I'm sure I'll think of more.
[11:49:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> cool....I'm doing this last-minue, the meeting it'll be part of starts in just under two hours, but I think I've got enough.
[11:54:10] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:54:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4215
[11:55:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ah, I've been given a reprieve - the person who was originally scheduled for this week left the company, but apparently left something behind to be used for this purpose.
[12:20:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:20:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4216
[12:21:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:21:58] * exec implicitly reticulates just the tip of prizes, prizes, pr'zises! for cmn32480
[12:22:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[12:22:01] * exec ambivalently throws a cache of TopKek at AndyTheAbsurd
[12:22:03] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:22:04] * exec deviously snatches a ramdisk of procedural shits from TheMightyBuzzard
[12:22:08] <cmn32480> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[12:22:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:22:12] * exec amazingly twerks a powerpoint presentation of pecan sandies for AndyTheAbsurd
[12:22:13] * exec ironically penetrates a bunch of Win 10 with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:22:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, definitely a monday
[12:22:45] <cmn32480> lol
[12:35:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> or at least a day ending in y
[13:01:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Computer Virus Affects TSMC's Factories and Fabrication Tools - http://sylnt.us - not-so-fab-ulous
[13:09:06] <chromas> All days end in "y", but how many end with the word "day?
[13:28:14] <cmn32480> fuck... 30 course for manufacturer certs... 2 hours each
[13:28:18] <cmn32480> please kill me
[13:34:40] <chromas> He's a sufferin'
[13:34:51] <chromas> Sorry Old Yeller...
[13:35:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> so 60 hours of courses?
[13:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, switch to tic-tacs or mentos then
[13:36:52] <pinchy> what are the medical bills like for delivering a baby? are they in the 10s of K range or what?
[13:37:22] <chromas> In Australia?
[13:37:38] <pinchy> i figure you in the hospital for couple of days or so?
[13:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> varies widely. you can go from near zero from home delivery without a medical professional at all to more than a college education.
[13:37:53] <pinchy> but im sure csection would be like major surgery and $$$
[13:37:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> pinchy: last time I saw a bill for that in the US, it was ~30K - or about as much as buying a cheaper brand-new BMW.
[13:38:20] <pinchy> for typical natural birth hospital delivery?
[13:39:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm sure it was in-hospital and no unusual complications, but I've forgotten the rest of the details.
[13:40:10] <pinchy> in 2017 i was in the hospital for apendicitis and had complications after surgery. was in for 2 weeks. I got a bunch of relativly small bills where insurance paid a majority of it
[13:40:27] <pinchy> i had to pay like 1K here 500 there for several dif things
[13:40:35] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: In case you were unaware of it... check out: https://www.etymonline.com
[13:40:36] <upstart> ^ 03Online Etymology Dictionary
[13:40:51] <pinchy> prolly 4k out of pocket. i think one bill was like 20K but insurance covered a good chunk of it
[13:40:54] <chromas> Yeah but unlike the BMW, your baby will come with a working turn signal.
[13:41:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> pinchy: https://www.theguardian.com
[13:41:03] <upstart> ^ 03Why does it cost $32,093 just to give birth in America? | US news | The Guardian
[13:41:08] <pinchy> but then like 4 months later i got this bill for 65K
[13:41:12] <pinchy> and it was insurance pending
[13:41:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> IIRC, that was my source - I then looked up the cost of the BMW on my own, because I was curious how it compared.
[13:41:35] <pinchy> i did they good old "sheeeeeeeeeeit"
[13:41:59] <Bytram> oh, nice! etymonline auto-redirects to httpS: https://www.etymonline.com
[13:42:00] <upstart> ^ 03Online Etymology Dictionary
[13:42:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, there's a weird thing in the US where the doctors are "independent contractors" and bill you separately from the hospital, then the hospital bills you for your actual stay (possibly plus medications and supplies used by nurses)
[13:42:36] <pinchy> i called them and they said it was in the system and finally just last week i got the bill back and insurance covered all except 1K or so
[13:42:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> gotta run to a meeting.
[13:42:44] <pinchy> i was like "wheew" haha
[13:42:55] <pinchy> took them almost a year to move on it
[13:44:52] <pinchy> The hospital charged her family $877,000 in total.
[13:45:00] <cmn32480> pinchy - our 3 Csections were about $20k each
[13:45:15] <pinchy> it doesnt make sense from a basic energy standpoint
[13:45:27] <pinchy> u can build a new wing on the hospital for that much
[13:45:32] <cmn32480> my total out of pocket was about $1000, but it depends on the insurance and the deductables
[13:45:56] <cmn32480> and all my kids were pre-Obamacare
[13:46:00] <pinchy> it was wierd that the biggest expense was the damn ambulance ride
[13:46:02] <cmn32480> when I had good insurance
[13:46:08] <pinchy> they didnt cover any of it
[13:46:16] <Bytram> pinchy: yep, ran into similar situation, though not such a long delay. Wish there were some kind of rule that if you intend to bill for something, you must post such an intention within, say, 7 days of the occurrence... otherwise it's free.
[13:46:21] <pinchy> was close to about 2K
[13:46:43] <Bytram> that way, I'd at least know that everything had been submitted and could keep track of what was still pending.
[13:47:43] <cmn32480> HA!
[13:47:52] <pinchy> iirc the highest single charge was the room for 2 weeks. 12K.
[13:47:56] <cmn32480> we were still gettting bills for the kids birth around their first birthday
[13:48:10] <pinchy> surgical stuff was like 1K-3K several times
[13:48:10] <cmn32480> it was freaking rediculous
[13:49:09] <pinchy> cmn32480: every kid was delivered csection? thats crazy
[13:49:24] <cmn32480> nah.. pretty normal actually
[13:49:53] <cmn32480> after you have 1 csection... you can try a VBAC but mostly after the first CSection they are all Csection
[13:50:16] <cmn32480> VBAC - Vaginal Birth After Cesarean
[13:52:16] <cmn32480> my kids all have big heads
[13:52:33] <cmn32480> and the smallest one was 8lbs 12 oz
[13:52:43] <Bytram> OUCH!!!!!!!
[13:53:34] <cmn32480> i dind't feel a thing
[13:54:15] <cmn32480> :-)
[13:55:44] <cmn32480> biggest baby was the last one at 9lbs 8oz
[13:56:58] <Bytram> Zoinks!!!
[13:57:59] <Bytram> ugh. Sad face. have a co-worker who recently gave birth to an extreme preemie... few weeks in NICU... found out last week that it didn't make it.
[13:58:22] <cmn32480> ugh
[13:58:25] <cmn32480> that's awful
[13:58:38] <cmn32480> and the worst fear of every parent
[13:59:20] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:59:44] <Bytram> Hasn't really "hit" me yet... I dunno why.
[14:00:12] <Bytram> I'll prolly get all busted up when I next see her... is on a LOA atm, so don't know when that will be.
[14:01:16] <cmn32480> I am blessed to have 3 very healthy from the start kids... attitudes on them not withstanding
[14:01:47] * Bytram wonders where they get THAT from? =)
[14:02:04] * cmn32480 points at the wife
[14:05:19] <cmn32480> she is also at fault for the head size
[14:07:18] * Bytram ain't gonna go *there*, tempting as it may be.
[14:32:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astronomers Discover a Nearby Free-Range Planet with Incredible Magnetism - http://sylnt.us - photogenic-chicken
[14:34:20] <chromas> Free-range? But is it organic and pesticide-free? Gluten-free?
[14:35:06] <Bytram> gtg, biab.... maybe.
[14:40:47] <cmn32480> is it animal magnetism? or just the garden variety kind
[16:12:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What You’re Really Agreeing to When You Sign Up for 23andMe Research - http://sylnt.us - How-do-anonymize-DNA?
[17:51:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Congress Votes to Force Software Makers to Say When Foreign Governments Peep Their Code - http://sylnt.us - we-want-to-look-at-who-is-looking-at-you
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[19:21:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Portugal's Skies Turn Orange as Desert air Sends Temperature Soaring - http://sylnt.us - shades-of-things-to-come?
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[20:12:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Portugal's Skies Turn Orange as Desert Air Sends Temperature Soaring - http://sylnt.us - shades-of-things-to-come?
[21:00:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - France's EDF Halts Four Nuclear Reactors due to Heatwave - http://sylnt.us - https://www.youtube.com
[22:03:37] <chromas> Poor Alex Jones. Who will I buy water from now?
[22:04:36] <chromas> !fight Alex Jones vs Mother Jones
[22:05:08] <chromas> ciri says he lost there too
[22:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> who's alex jones?
[22:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g alex jones site:wikipedia.org
[22:12:14] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Alexander Emric Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American radio show host and conspiracy theorist. He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas, ..."
[22:12:15] <upstart> ^ 03Alex Jones - Wikipedia
[22:12:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, bleh.
[22:21:03] <chromas> I've poisoned your mind
[22:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> buzzards are largely immune to poison
[22:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> consider their diet
[22:26:48] <chromas> Oh yeah? Maybe the standard poisons don't work, but you can't be immune to everything! How about this?
[22:26:57] * chromas stuffs Python into TheMightyBuzzard's pants
[22:27:39] <chromas> Not just any python either. It's got mixed tabs and space
[22:27:45] <chromas> s
[22:28:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> distasteful but not poisonous
[22:28:57] <chromas> It also deletes your fishing toys
[22:41:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Open Source Effort "Disclose.io": Legal Code to Make Reporting Security Bugs Safer - http://sylnt.us - here,-let-me-help-you
[22:54:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it makes nice boots that you can sell for all new fishing toys
[22:54:55] * TheMightyBuzzard waits impatiently another 15m for his corned beef to be ready
[22:55:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[22:55:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[22:55:02] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 639