#Soylent | Logs for 2018-08-01

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[01:30:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Disputed Alzheimer's Study Links Decrease in Amyloid Levels to Reduction in Cognitive Decline - http://sylnt.us - I-had-a-dept-for-this-but-I-forgot...what?
[01:56:36] <chromas> Hehe, one of the poll comments reminds me, maybe the next poll should be about whitespace
[01:56:48] <chromas> Spaces, tabs, elastic tabstops, ...
[01:57:52] <chromas> What would you call a system that has no tabs or spaces in the files, but the editor renders the text as if it does, according to your rules?
[01:57:59] <chromas> Probably using regexml
[02:09:30] <chromas> or maybe Favorite Tool Replacement by systemd
[02:24:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> regexml++
[02:24:40] <Bender> karma - regexml: 1
[02:29:48] <chromas> Ooh, another Day of Chromass (and mostly takyon)
[02:29:48] <chromas> on the site
[02:37:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need a Make Anal Greek Again hat
[02:39:25] <chromas> Would the hat be brown?
[02:39:29] <chromas> With a red drip
[02:39:45] <chromas> Maybe a red tassle
[02:40:03] <chromas> s/(l)(e)/\2\1/
[02:40:23] <chromas> s/(l)(e)/$2$1/
[02:40:23] <chromas> #smake upstart
[02:40:23] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with the homerow
[02:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> milo needs a Make Anal Gay Again hat though
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[02:57:31] <chromas> If girls can have penises then guys can receive without gay
[03:02:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Electron Microscope Pixel Array Detector Can Visualize Atomic Bonds - http://sylnt.us
[03:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> das cultural appropriation
[03:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're stealin their buttseks
[03:03:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh. it's past bedtime. smoke then pillow.
[03:06:46] <chromas> Not appropriation because gaywads are a more privileged class than wymyns
[04:23:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Telemedicine Prescriptions Could Undermine State Abortion Restrictions - http://sylnt.us - fetus-deletus
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[06:01:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pizza Physics: Why Brick Ovens Bake the Perfect Italian-Style Pie - http://sylnt.us - pizza≠pie
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[07:21:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google: No More Than Two Notches Per Android Phone - http://sylnt.us - common-sense-notchctl
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[09:11:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - [Updated] Defense Distributed Releasing Gun Plans, President Trump "Looking Into" It - http://sylnt.us - when-the-second-meets-the-first
[09:30:13] <chromas> shoul've updated the title
[09:30:17] * chromas shurgs
[10:41:33] <chromas> Coffee--
[10:41:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4203
[10:41:36] <chromas> >:)
[10:43:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Steam Game Pulled from Store After Allegations of Cryptocurrency Mining - http://sylnt.us - hm...Windows-Update-uses-enormous-amounts-of-CPU...
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[11:59:29] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:59:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4204
[12:02:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla is Rebranding Firefox and Wants Your Opinion - http://sylnt.us - change
[12:02:31] <FatPhil> #submit https://wattsupwiththat.com
[12:02:32] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:02:57] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:07:51] <pinchy> mozilla wants ur opinions but not really
[13:08:02] <pinchy> kind of like how they threw out boaty mcboatface
[13:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned anti-boat bigotry
[13:16:36] * TheMightyBuzzard stirs up some more shit
[13:16:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[13:24:12] <pinchy> TR must be codeword for azumasuzuki. that would be the most awesome plot twist if TMB and azumi where actually roomates
[13:25:10] <cmn32480> oh man... I would laugh so hard
[13:26:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds fun really
[13:29:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone who doesn't agree with me on most things to argue with and she's gotta be better looking than TR's fat, hairy self
[13:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> for scenery purposes that is. i mean none of the porn chicks are gonna bang me either but they're still nice to look at.
[13:33:43] <cmn32480> but on the upside, you coudl discuss hot chicks with her
[13:36:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i used to hang with a lesbian marine chick back when i was a 16 or so. she had really good porn and we could sit around talking about tits and drinking.
[13:37:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus she'd occasionally tell us about her adventures with her current girlfriend just to get us all wound up and cussing her
[13:41:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Activist Publishes 11,000 Wikileaks Twitter Direct Messages - http://sylnt.us - delete-this
[14:42:19] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:42:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4205
[14:43:34] <Bytram> chromas: I'm curious... which story did you max out the title/dept fields in?
[14:44:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:44:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4206
[14:44:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[14:44:56] * exec presumably allocates a lattice of 🖕 for Bytram
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[14:45:49] * Bytram finishes reading backscrool
[14:45:52] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[14:45:54] * exec mistakenly pesters sac of monostable multivibrators with TheMightyBuzzard
[14:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, i was hoping for some leeloo dallas multipass
[14:47:30] <Bytram> i dunno... "monostable multivibrators" sounds like it would be right up your alley, "Buzz"
[14:47:37] <Bytram> =)
[14:51:10] * AndyTheAbsurd considers doing /nick TheMightyVibrotron
[14:51:33] <Bytram> go for it
[15:12:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, i'm out for most of the day. errands to run and work to do.
[15:21:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Comes Under Fire by Chinese State Media for Not Doing Enough to Filter Prohibited Content - http://sylnt.us - not-good-enough
[15:21:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: laters!
[15:21:53] <Bytram> oh
[15:21:57] * Bytram looks at the time
[15:22:04] <Bytram> seems like I should be going, too!
[15:22:19] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[15:37:13] <bacterium> wouldn't it be great to get reincarnated as a midrange laptop?
[15:37:47] <bacterium> reincarnation++
[15:37:47] <Bender> karma - reincarnation: 1
[15:37:51] <bacterium> coffee++
[15:37:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4207
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[15:59:08] <pinchy> is there a way to escape the <> redirect symbols in echo?
[15:59:39] <pinchy> what if i wanted to echo a string that contained < and > into a named pipe?
[16:00:02] <pinchy> like echo "blah </tmp/a >/tmp/b" >/tmp/c
[16:00:33] <pinchy> someway to echo the entire string literal into some other ">"
[16:02:04] <hopdevil> single quote not an option?
[16:02:08] <Bytram> pinchy: what os and/or shell are you using?
[16:02:32] <Bytram> on bash:
[16:02:35] <Bytram> echo '>'
[16:02:56] <Bytram> on windows, in a cmd.exe window:
[16:03:00] <Bytram> echo ^>
[16:03:26] <Bytram> that is a carat symbol (shift+6 (usually) followed by the greater than char
[16:03:34] <Bytram> that is a carat symbol (shift+6 (usually)) followed by the greater than char
[16:04:02] <pinchy> bash on debian
[16:04:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:04:18] <pinchy> ok so echo takes single quoted strings as one chunch?
[16:04:33] <pinchy> let me try that. I thouhgt i tried it before
[16:04:40] <Bytram> if you do not want to quote the entire thing with single quotes (which means: perform no replacements in here)
[16:04:50] <Bytram> you can also escape the character like this:
[16:04:53] <Bytram> echo \>
[16:05:06] <Bytram> pinchy: yes!
[16:05:42] <pinchy> huh well ill be durned. i must have done something wrong first time around
[16:05:56] <Bytram> seems like this should work, too:
[16:05:58] <Bytram> echo ">"
[16:07:53] <Bytram> here's some more fun:
[16:07:57] <Bytram> foo=this
[16:08:01] <Bytram> echo $foo
[16:08:05] <Bytram> echo "$foo"
[16:08:10] <Bytram> echo '$foo'
[16:08:18] <Bytram> echo $foo $foo
[16:08:22] <Bytram> echo "$foo $foo"
[16:08:38] <Bytram> echo '$foo $foo'
[16:09:01] <Bytram> pinchy: hope that helps!
[16:09:04] <hopdevil> if you want to really be fancy, echo -e "\x3C \x3e"
[16:11:34] <Bytram> oh... that outputs: less-than-character, space, and then a greater-than character
[16:14:11] <pinchy> hmm i noticed that if u echo 'blah ' >/tmp/foo that it wont return until you do cat /tmp/foo in another window
[16:14:35] <pinchy> is there something to tell it to echo and return?
[16:15:48] <hopdevil> where /tmp/foo is a pipe of some sort?
[16:16:14] <pinchy> yea made with mkfifo
[16:16:55] <pinchy> im trying to control openssl s_cleitn from 2 seperate terminal windows
[16:17:20] <pinchy> openssl s_client -connect 127.0.0.1:8080 </tmp/test1 >/tmp/test2
[16:17:29] <pinchy> test1 and test2 are named pipes
[16:17:56] <pinchy> then i was planning on cat test2 in one terminal and echo stuff into test 1 on another terminal
[16:18:43] <pinchy> to start it i got another pipe test3 that i echo the openssl cmd into
[16:18:58] <pinchy> then i do /bin/sh /tmp/test3
[16:19:49] <pinchy> the openssl runs as long as u dont add the redirects <test1 and >test2 in the original command
[16:22:36] <hopdevil> hmm, for something like that I would use socat
[16:22:57] <Bytram> pinchy: yeah... that one is out of my league. I can help ya with files, but have not really done anything at all with redirected pipes :(
[16:23:01] <hopdevil> openssl/s_client tends to be annoying to work with
[16:23:09] <Bytram> time for me to be going, anyway.
[16:23:13] <hopdevil> ta ta
[16:23:27] <Bytram> best of luck to you!!! (and it looks like you are in good hands, too!!!)
[16:23:37] <Bytram> hopdevil++
[16:23:37] <Bender> karma - hopdevil: 1
[16:23:42] <Bytram> and one to grow on
[16:23:44] <Bytram> hopdevil++
[16:23:44] <Bender> karma - hopdevil: 2
[16:23:47] <Bytram> diao!
[16:23:49] <hopdevil> *yay*
[16:23:50] <Bytram> ack
[16:23:51] <Bytram> ciao!
[16:27:13] <hopdevil> pinchy: are you trying to get something like a multiplexed shell over tls?
[16:28:41] <pinchy> well im trying to call openssl from a plain C program and read and write stdout
[16:28:47] <pinchy> calling execve
[16:29:00] <pinchy> and i can read write to the pipes with open()
[16:29:53] <pinchy> i guess a better question would be how to call execve on openssl and get handles to the stdin /stdout of it?
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[16:36:17] <hopdevil> ah, that is relatively easy. http://tldp.org seems most helpful
[16:36:24] <upstart> ^ 036.2.2 Creating Pipes in C
[17:00:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber Shutting Down Self-Driving Truck Division - http://sylnt.us - ☑Embrace-☑Extend-☑Extinguish
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[17:10:46] <Sulla> Anyone here use excel extensively? After application of recent patches by my IT department having extensive stability and corruption issues. Wondering if anyone else suffering this
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[18:42:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Political/Business Leaders Who Change Their Moral Stance are Perceived Not as Brave but Hypocritical - http://sylnt.us - title-field-should-have-the-right-to-more-characters.-on-second-thought,-no-it-doesn't...or-does-it?
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[19:40:42] <boru> Strange. My DNS isn't revolving the site.
[19:42:17] <boru> Drilling it at another server has cached it, so crisis averted temporarily, I suppose.
[19:48:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> If it helps with troubleshooting: via dig, local DNS for my VPS resolves it, 8.8.8.8 resolves it, 4.4.4.4 can't be reached from this host.
[19:49:54] <Bytram> you mean... https://www.youtube.com
[19:49:56] <upstart> ^ 03Which way to Millinocket - YouTube
[19:51:37] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: But seriously, what is it *exactly* that you are trying to resolve?
[19:52:15] <Bytram> and/or what are you doing and the symptoms you are seeing?
[19:52:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was responding to boru
[19:52:29] <Bytram> ooops
[19:52:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> who was attempting to resolve "the site" which I assumed meant "soylentnews.org"
[19:53:06] <boru> Yeah, I drilled another server, and dnsmasq has cached it. My default nameservers don't seem to know, though.
[19:53:25] <boru> So, local issue, nothing to see here.
[19:53:25] <Bytram> as would as I, but I prefer to not assume, so was trying to get better information, but pinged the wrong person.
[19:53:28] <Bytram> ~blame
[19:53:29] * exec points at Bytram
[19:53:33] * boru chuckles.
[19:53:40] * Bytram chuckles, too
[19:53:57] <Bytram> boru: so, were you trying to load the site in your browser?
[19:54:23] <boru> I was.
[19:55:18] <Bytram> and... what ahppened?
[19:55:56] * Bytram refreshes main page on his PC
[19:56:09] <Bytram> looks okay from my end
[19:57:19] * Bytram loads a couple admin pages... no problem there, either
[20:01:41] <boru> Yeah, local DNS resolution problem.
[20:01:48] <boru> No problem with the site, so far as I can see.
[20:02:01] <boru> I was just getting an empty DNS record.
[20:03:01] <Bytram> bummer!
[20:03:27] * Bytram is not really sure which dns server he using atm... set it up ong ago, and it "just works"
[20:21:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Employers Eager to Hire Try a New Policy: ‘No Experience Necessary’ - http://sylnt.us - what-will-I-do-with-my-25-years-experience-in-Swift?
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[20:59:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.wideopenspaces.com
[20:59:01] <upstart> ^ 03Confirmed: New World Record Black Crappie Caught in Tennessee
[21:02:42] <chromas> Bytram: the long one https://soylentnews.org
[21:02:45] <upstart> ^ 03Political/Business Leaders Who Change Their Moral Stance are Perceived Not as Brave but Hypocritical - SoylentNews
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[21:44:23] <mrpg> .
[21:51:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Tiny" Great Barrier Reef Foundation Awarded $443 Million Australian Govt. Grant, Inquiry Ensues - http://sylnt.us - corral-coral-cachet-cash,-eh?
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[22:13:16] <Sulla> #submit https://www.cnn.com
[22:13:17] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[22:13:43] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[22:13:44] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[22:22:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> kee-rist, ImageMagick has a lot of dependencies, doesn't it?
[22:32:29] <chromas> Yeah but I think you can compile it with fewer
[22:32:34] <chromas> like without X and stuff
[22:36:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> probably but it's in CentOS's repos so I'm just using that
[22:37:12] <chromas> Dunno about CentOS, but some distros have an x-less package. Mayeb third-party repo though
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[23:22:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - French Lawmakers Ban Smartphones in Schools - http://sylnt.us - bans
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