#Soylent | Logs for 2018-05-22

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[00:09:53] <Sulla> I would rather die from allergies and have to suffer it with constant mowing than listen to the wife bitch that the grass is brown
[00:22:22] <Sulla> Cigar++
[00:22:22] <Bender> karma - cigar: 46
[01:18:27] <chromas> Let it turn brown, then spray paint it
[01:26:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Plants Work Out Which Way is Up - http://sylnt.us - jiggling-statoliths
[01:46:13] <Sulla> Think I just got a position doing some freelance bookkeeping, negotating pay, no idea how to do that
[01:48:02] <Bytram> Sulla: negotiate. One approach is to always ask for more than you will settle for. That way, if they balk at the price, you can give up something and still "fall back to" what you want. If you ask up front for what you want, and they balk and talk you down... well you are down, too.
[02:04:31] <Sulla> I googled bookkeeper hourly range and for a hour a day gig I am okay with the bottom of the range (15-28) so its all up for me
[02:15:01] <Bytram> remember to include your own overhead... e.g. travel time and travel costs
[02:36:19] <Sulla> Good call
[02:37:01] <Sulla> Ill see what others are offering on craigslist locally as well
[02:55:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX's "Load-and-Go" Procedure "Viable" - http://sylnt.us - thunderbirds-are-go
[03:08:47] <Bytram> Sulla: mind, if you are in the USA at least, you can write some of those expenses off against your taxes... but you may not have enough income to make it worthwhile... talk to your tax advisor
[03:09:31] <Bytram> oh, and also consider other related expenses: billing (doing the calculations, sending invoice, sending reminder, etc.)
[03:23:15] <Bytram> time for some shuteye
[03:23:22] <Bytram> have a good night everyone
[04:27:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 30-Year Study Says Childhood Acute Leukaemia 'Partly Caused by Lack of Infection' - http://sylnt.us - germs-can-keep-you-well
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[06:08:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pupils Find Spellchecker 'Cheat' in Literacy Test - http://sylnt.us - school-made-them-smart?
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[07:46:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft, Google: We've found a fourth data-leaking Meltdown-Spectre CPU hole - http://sylnt.us - [...]
[08:26:03] <chromas> Bing does RSS feeds of search results
[08:26:12] <chromas> Bing > Google
[08:29:46] <boru> I agree.
[08:30:17] <boru> I've expressed as much on that article.
[09:15:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX to Launch 5 Iridium Next and 2 GRACE Satellites Today: Tuesday May 22 @ 19:47:58 UTC - http://sylnt.us - off-we-go-into-the-wild-blue-yonder
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[10:56:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Barcelona Is Leading The Fightback Against Smart City Surveillance - http://sylnt.us - by-the-people-for-the-people
[11:47:13] <Bytram> cmn32480: FYI -- it looks like exec is now 'pining for the fjiords'
[11:47:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:47:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4117
[11:47:45] <Bytram> ~time x
[11:48:01] <Bytram> Oh, doh! No exec :(
[11:55:08] <boru> Is idiot_king the same user aristarchus?
[11:55:23] <Bytram> idunno. linky?
[11:55:35] <boru> Just reading the comments on the poll, at the moment.
[11:55:57] <Bytram> ahhh... ok
[11:55:59] <boru> They seem to have the same empty-headed rhetoric.
[11:57:01] <Bytram> btw, we can never be *certain* that one user is another... IP address is not a person and all that, and even then we only have a substring of a hash of the IP address to go with
[11:57:20] <boru> Yeah, I just wondered if anyone had reached the same conclusion, reading their comments.
[11:57:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft, Google: We've Found a Fourth Data-Leaking Meltdown-Spectre CPU Hole - http://sylnt.us - [...]
[11:58:01] <boru> I wouldn't ask an SN op to breach protocol, like that, on principle.
[11:58:04] <Bytram> ugh. multi-time-zone math makes my head hurt
[11:58:51] <boru> You could write a script.
[12:00:29] <boru> TZ=Europe/Dublin; export TZ; expr `date ...` - $your_date # etc
[12:01:11] * Bytram wishes he had a real OS atm
[12:01:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> as long as you don't have to deal with Nepalese time...
[12:01:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...seems to me there's a couple of other funny ones, too.
[12:01:58] <Bytram> and, as to your question, I really don't see that much similarity between those comments by i_k and Ari.
[12:02:32] <Bytram> liek those that are a (x + 1/2 hr) off of UTC?
[12:03:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think there's one that's (x + 1/4 hr) off of UTC, I just don't remember what it is.
[12:03:32] <Bytram> would one of you fine folk be so kind as to check my math on the SpaceX launch story? https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:33] <upstart> ^ 03SpaceX to Launch 5 Iridium Next and 2 GRACE Satellites Today: Tuesday May 22 @ 19:47:58 UTC - SoylentNews
[12:03:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Well, Nepal *is* that, but I thought there was a second one, too.
[12:04:03] <Bytram> I addded that the launch should be about 11 hours from the time of that story... please confirm.
[12:04:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> New Zealand/Chatham Islands, UTC+12:45.
[12:07:32] <boru> I believe there are also locations where the timezone isn't the same every year.
[12:07:57] <boru> ISTR reading a story about the ISO TZ guy retiring due to endless litigation, and practically no one else knowing how it all worked enough to replace him.
[12:15:12] <Bytram> I heard about the retirement, but do not recall that it was about litigation... ISTR that it had more to it (maintenance) than first me the eye... especially wrt historical time zones -- both specifying location and amount of offset
[12:16:59] <boru> I vaguely recollect some astrology clowns litigating over some lunar ephemeris, or some such, and him voicing his weariness with the whole thing.
[12:17:10] <Bytram> for a bit of date trivia, take a look at: cal 1752
[12:17:33] <boru> Heh, interesting.
[12:17:34] <Bytram> oh, that *does* ring a bell.
[12:17:42] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:17:42] <upstart> ^ 03September - Wikipedia
[12:17:56] <Bytram> In 1752, the British Empire adopted the Gregorian calendar. In the British Empire that year, September 2 was immediately followed by September 14.
[12:18:30] <Bytram> try doing a date diff that straddles that period. ;)
[12:18:44] <Bytram> ugh... time for me to get ready for work.
[12:18:47] <Bytram> ciao for now
[12:19:15] <boru> Catch you later.
[12:27:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Businesses Join to Create Enterprise Standard for Blockchain Networks - http://sylnt.us - standards++
[13:56:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ontario Politician Withdraws Candidacy after Data Theft - http://sylnt.us - insider-threats
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[15:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Security Flaw Impacts Electron-Based Apps - http://sylnt.us - another-day-another-flaw
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[16:56:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Retrograde Jupiter Co-Orbital Asteroid May Have an Interstellar Origin - http://sylnt.us - we-have-company
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[21:35:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ossic 3D Headphones Startup Fails, $3.2 Million in Crowdfunding Gone (No Refunds) - http://sylnt.us - empty-wallet
[21:38:06] <Sulla> Why would 3d headphones need 3.2 million +
[22:38:38] <chromas> Aeron chairs and cloudscale technology.
[22:41:20] <mechanicjay> DEFINITELY cloudscale technology.
[22:41:45] <mechanicjay> and catered lunches
[23:05:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Acquires Semantic Machines - http://sylnt.us - it-knows-what-you-said