#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-24

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[00:59:08] <chromas> https://www.slashgear.com
[00:59:09] <upstart> ^ 03Uranus is full of gas that smells like rotten eggs - SlashGear
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[01:37:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Many Piracy Warnings Would Get You to Stop? - http://sylnt.us - bittpirate
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[03:27:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Johns Hopkins Performs the First Total Penis and Scrotum Transplant - http://sylnt.us - ♫detachable-penis♫
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[04:56:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Exascale System for Earth Simulation Introduced - http://sylnt.us - SimEarth
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[06:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aliens on 'Super-Earth' Planets May be Trapped by Gravity - http://sylnt.us - \
[06:33:41] <chromas> https://www.theatlantic.com
[06:33:42] <upstart> ^ 03James Fallows on the Reinvention of America - The Atlantic
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[07:47:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Students Learn Italian Playing Video Games - http://sylnt.us - Ciao!-Amore?-Grazi!
[09:04:43] <chromas> http://news.softpedia.com
[09:04:44] <upstart> ^ 03Happy 20th Anniversary to the Most Famous Windows BSOD in History
[09:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Swaziland's King Renames Country to "eSwatini" - http://sylnt.us - what's-in-a-name?
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[09:59:01] <BASHful_butcher> I <3 the red site
[09:59:06] <BASHful_butcher> I abhor the green site
[09:59:12] <BASHful_butcher> filthy baggins
[10:19:30] * chromas checks his pockets for missing rings
[10:19:52] * BASHful_butcher removes cock ring
[10:20:02] <BASHful_butcher> THE RING IS MINE!
[10:20:06] <BASHful_butcher> what are you doing
[10:20:09] <BASHful_butcher> throw it in the fire
[10:20:11] <BASHful_butcher> get rid of it
[10:20:21] <BASHful_butcher> oh i have a ring of fire alright, my friend
[10:21:43] <chromas> I've just never had spicy enough peppers, I guess
[10:22:18] <BASHful_butcher> nah
[10:22:32] <BASHful_butcher> i just let smeagol have his way with me for a week's worth of potatoes
[10:22:54] <chromas> potatoes?
[10:23:13] <BASHful_butcher> po tate toes
[10:23:31] <BASHful_butcher> smeagol loves them with the wriggling fish
[10:23:33] <chromas> boil 'em?
[10:23:36] <BASHful_butcher> yes!
[10:23:41] <BASHful_butcher> but he hates that
[10:23:47] <BASHful_butcher> so i just kiss each one
[10:28:47] <BASHful_butcher> smeagol was really an oppressed homosexual who was a sex slave of gandalf's for hundreds of years
[10:31:08] <BASHful_butcher> bilbo was bisexual
[10:31:30] <BASHful_butcher> the ring was just symbolism for them getting together in a boxing match like ring but not for boxing
[10:32:26] <BASHful_butcher> even his weapon was gay, named after an overrated musician who huffed spice
[10:32:29] <BASHful_butcher> and he had worms
[10:34:04] <BASHful_butcher> and don't get me started on the nazgul, each had painted clown faces and were very gay but they hid their faces in shame and squealed like pigs for communicatio
[10:34:10] <BASHful_butcher> communication*
[10:39:54] <BASHful_butcher> anyway, buck feta
[10:40:10] <BASHful_butcher> looks like reddit has a new SHITTY design
[10:40:16] <BASHful_butcher> why do they always have to fuck with things
[10:40:39] <BASHful_butcher> the secret is to access their site via: pay.reddit.com/r/whatever
[10:41:41] <BASHful_butcher> I don't know why but it works
[10:44:01] <BASHful_butcher> I guess everyone here is in dreamland
[10:44:07] * BASHful_butcher snores
[10:45:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Saudi Arabia Restricts Drones After Palace Incident - http://sylnt.us - that's-one-way-to-fix-it
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[11:38:55] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[11:38:57] * exec clumsily blows my butt of milk duds at #soylent
[11:49:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday cmn32480
[11:49:54] * exec transphobically twerks a sac of dumpster juice for cmn32480
[11:50:25] <cmn32480> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[11:50:27] * exec half-heartedly snatches a +1 mace of degradation from AndyTheAbsurd
[11:50:56] <cmn32480> double lose!
[12:15:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shellebrating Christmas Island's Extraordinary Nature With Street View and Google Earth - http://sylnt.us - just-a-few-crabs
[12:30:37] <pinchy> i like the social commentaries where they say something to the effect: "look at how that racial minority got off with a slap of the wrist, if it was a white dude they would have thrown the book at them"
[12:30:57] <pinchy> nothing but pure speculation
[12:31:01] <cmn32480> that commentary goes both way.
[12:31:50] <pinchy> one of the blah blah biases on wikipedia prolly
[12:34:24] <pinchy> woowoo these nabisco devil food cakes are fat freeeeee
[12:34:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah but then you get stroies like this: https://www.theroot.com
[12:35:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> where the black person gets the book thrown at them when the old white dude gets a slap on the wrist
[13:57:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Securing Wireless Neurostimulators - http://sylnt.us - brains-need-an-update-Tuesday
[14:06:59] <Ellenor> reddit shoud die
[14:07:11] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:07:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4074
[14:07:17] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[14:07:19] * exec abrasively postulates an F cup of spinning rust towards cmn32480
[14:07:24] <Bytram> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[14:07:26] * exec abnormally liberates a raid 10 volume of hash tables from AndyTheAbsurd
[14:09:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday Bytram
[14:09:16] * exec proverbially passes a handful of problematic principles to Bytram
[14:09:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday Ellenor
[14:09:20] * exec tediously cropdusts a +1 mace of hatred over Ellenor
[14:09:41] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: seems somewhat apropos for me
[14:09:44] <Bytram> ~blame
[14:09:45] * exec points at Bytram
[14:09:46] <Bytram> =)
[14:10:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ellenor: I think reddit is probably past its peak at this point. Upcoming UI change seems likely to drive a fair-sized user exodus, not sufficient to kill it but not healthy for them either.
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[14:24:27] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[14:24:29] * exec irrefutably scissors a diaper full of dogfart for bytram
[14:24:45] * Bytram rummages around for a clothespin
[14:24:58] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[14:25:02] <cmn32480> busy
[14:25:07] <cmn32480> work and kids are taking up all my time
[14:25:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:25:29] <Bytram> howz the puppy?
[14:25:51] <cmn32480> getting bigger every day
[14:26:00] <cmn32480> she's just a shade over 60lbs now
[14:26:11] <cmn32480> still very much a puppy
[14:26:45] <Ellenor> keekekekeeee
[14:26:47] <cmn32480> hasn't quite figured out yet that she is a really powerful dog and can pull the kids over pretty easy on the leash
[14:26:56] <Ellenor> lol
[14:27:00] <Ellenor> psychologically a puppy
[14:27:04] <Ellenor> physically a tug dog
[14:27:10] <cmn32480> it was funny as hell when she did it to my 9 year old in the mud
[14:27:27] <cmn32480> dragged him a couple feet before he let go
[14:27:54] <cmn32480> yeah... Newfies are known for being a bit stubborn too
[14:28:59] <cmn32480> and dear god.. the hair....
[14:29:01] <cmn32480> https://i.imgur.com
[14:29:18] <Bytram> ugh... just had a call out at work... so I need to head in before too long
[14:29:20] <Bytram> clicky
[14:29:33] <cmn32480> note... that is NOT a marble tub
[14:29:56] <Bytram> fiberglasssss?
[14:30:01] <Ellenor> I'm jonesing for coffee
[14:30:03] <Ellenor> and sleep
[14:30:40] <Bytram> cmn32480: just noticed you are at #2403 in the world on F@H: http://fah-web2.stanford.edu
[14:30:41] <upstart> ^ 03Team stats
[14:30:43] <Bytram> congratulations
[14:30:56] <cmn32480> thanks... I was in the 2390's the other day
[14:31:02] <cmn32480> some bastard passed me
[14:31:24] <Bytram> cmn32480: might want to invite fyngyrz to join the cause? IIRC, he has some compute power available that could help the team: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[14:31:25] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews.org - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[14:31:56] <cmn32480> standard compute doens't help much... it is the graphics cards that make the headway
[14:32:01] <fyngyrz> no thanks. :)
[14:32:12] <Bytram> drat!
[14:32:24] <fyngyrz> Sorry. Not my kind of charity
[14:32:29] <Bytram> we made a great run of it, but are not getting overtaken
[14:32:34] <Bytram> s/not/now/
[14:32:35] <exec> <Bytram> we made a great run of it, but are now getting overtaken
[14:32:51] <cmn32480> yeah... we passed all the people who stopped doing stuff but had minimal input...
[14:33:06] <cmn32480> we always said we woudl max out in the 200-300 range someplace
[14:33:17] <Bytram> mind you, being team #239 in the world is not too shabby for an outfit of our size!
[14:34:03] <Bytram> well, there were other teams that were still plugging along with more than neglible output, so there's that
[14:35:22] <Bytram> there's some new, more powerful graphics cards that have come out since we started (when *was* that?) but the crypto craze has eaten up a big chunk of that avaiilability
[14:35:32] <Bytram> what card do you have?
[14:36:02] <cmn32480> GTX970
[14:36:14] <cmn32480> still runs great.
[14:36:16] <Bytram> Noice!
[14:36:22] <Bytram> noice noice!
[14:36:23] <cmn32480> plays all the games I want...
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[14:37:00] <Bytram> like... lunar lander? ( https://en.wikipedia.org(video_game_series) )
[14:37:01] <upstart> ^ 03Lunar Lander (video game genre) - Wikipedia
[14:37:37] * Bytram first played that back in the early-mid 70's
[14:37:54] <Bytram> on a teletype
[14:43:53] <cmn32480> punch cards and tickertape
[14:44:38] <Bytram> punch cards are just very consistently sized pieces of computer tape
[14:44:44] <Bytram> ;)
[14:45:08] <Bytram> so, I got called in to work, so am going to have to get my tired self in gear, cleaned up, and on my way
[14:48:43] <cmn32480> good luck
[14:48:46] <cmn32480> take the $$ and run
[14:54:49] <pinchy> omg look at that evil dog pic
[14:54:59] <pinchy> go fetch the excorsist
[15:03:05] <Bytram> #g tubular bells
[15:03:05] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Tubular Bells is the debut album by English musician Mike Oldfield, released on Virgin Records on 25 May 1973. Apart from occasional vocal contributions, the album is essentially an instrumental record, consisting of two musical compositions in excess of twenty minutes each, one on each side of the original vinyl release."
[15:03:06] <upstart> ^ 03Tubular Bells - Wikipedia
[15:03:30] <Bytram> afk
[15:25:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Releases Internal Moderation Guidelines - http://sylnt.us - devil-in-the-detail
[15:44:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit http://www.bbc.com
[15:44:02] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:44:28] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:44:28] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:45:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit http://www.sciencemag.org
[15:45:46] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:46:12] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:46:12] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:48:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.npr.org
[15:48:42] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:49:07] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:49:08] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:50:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.telegraph.co.uk It takes a village to chase down a toddler.
[15:50:07] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:50:32] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:50:33] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
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[17:01:16] <Sulla> https://www.nationalreview.com
[17:01:16] <upstart> ^ 03Alfie Evans: Alder Hey Hospital Removes Life Support | National Review
[17:01:33] <Sulla> What is it with the british and killing kids rather than letting them leave the country for better treatement?
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[17:07:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dissecting The AVR Debugwire - http://sylnt.us - on-the-wire
[17:55:06] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[18:36:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Sip Safe Wristband Can Test Your Drink For Drugs - http://sylnt.us - safer-sipping
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[19:21:30] <pinchy> hmm a 5 sentence blog post is newsworthy?
[19:21:59] <pinchy> flat earth
[19:22:02] <pinchy> flat earth
[19:22:09] <pinchy> how i walk upon thee
[19:22:15] <pinchy> kaput
[19:22:24] <pinchy> theres my news submission for haiku
[19:22:47] <chromas> Can you post it in a blag?
[19:25:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> I thought the form of haiku was 5/7/5 syllables?
[19:26:14] <chromas> Perhaps he's got a very exotic accent
[19:26:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> haikus are quite strange / some do not make any sense / refridgerator
[19:26:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://idea-instructions.com
[19:26:59] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[19:27:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> ╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[19:27:46] <chromas> #tell TheMightyBuzzard: Add "og:description" to MrPlow
[19:27:46] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[19:28:23] <chromas> also "twitter:description", just in case
[19:29:10] <chromas> Oh, it might be because they put the content first and then the name of the tag. MrPlow may not know about that
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[19:31:29] <chromas> Nifty site
[19:31:42] <Sulla> "next time I see them"
[19:31:45] <chromas> So bogosort is just shuffle until it comes out sorted?
[19:31:51] <Sulla> is them a pronoun that won't offend the buzzard?
[19:31:52] <chromas> MrPlow doesn't assume gender
[19:32:02] <chromas> Or plurality
[19:32:05] <Sulla> Why not "it" then?
[19:32:12] <Sulla> ah
[19:32:21] <chromas> Because that's objectifying and therefore racist
[19:32:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I wonder if MrPlow can tell multiple people something?
[19:32:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> MrPlow: Tell AndyTheAbsurd and Sulla that MrPlow is a jerk.
[19:33:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> #tell AndyTheAbsurd and Sulla that MrPlow is a jerk.
[19:33:05] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[19:33:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> derped it up the first time.
[19:33:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> didn't work that way, I got a /query message [19:33:13] <MrPlow> <AndyTheAbsurd> and Sulla that MrPlow is a jerk.
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[19:55:47] <Sulla> 15k closing costs on a mortgage of 180k. Insanity
[19:56:02] <Sulla> Something needs to be done about the usurers
[19:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Iran To Trump: Stay In Nuclear Deal Or "Face Severe Consequences" - http://sylnt.us - not-sure-that-threats-will-work
[19:59:56] <Sulla> If severe consequences is going to war with Isreal it sounds like a win win
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[20:17:28] <AzumaHazuki> Microsoft is releasing a new Win10 SKU called "Windows 10 Lean." I thought this was amusing enough to let you know, in case someone wants to submit a story :D
[20:17:48] * AzumaHazuki wonders if the wallpaper will be purple, chopped, and screwed, with fizzy bubbles in it
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[20:34:46] <Sulla> what is this windows 10 lean?
[20:34:55] <Sulla> I just want XP back
[20:48:36] <AzumaHazuki> i hear it's a very slow but very calm version of Windows :v
[20:48:48] <AzumaHazuki> also extremely purple
[20:50:59] <chromas> Should be Lien
[20:51:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> "slow" is fairly redundant when speaking of windows
[20:51:33] <AzumaHazuki> no, lean, as in sizzurp or purple drank
[20:52:12] <chromas> Windows Jenkem
[20:52:27] <AzumaHazuki> lol, that's *all* of them
[20:53:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> windows: the 1970s Dodge Dart of operating systems
[20:54:54] <AzumaHazuki> ford pinto, perhaps :v
[20:55:51] <fyngyrz> I run XP in a VM under OS X. Neutered: it's not allowed on the network. Works great. I expect it will keep working great on into the indefinite future.
[20:56:51] <fyngyrz> All my old XP stuff is available to me to this day, and that keeps me from buying a lot of current, overweight, draggy-ass class-befuddled garbage
[20:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, lot of stuff is dropping support for it but if you don't need newer versions or newer software...
[20:58:03] <fyngyrz> I have awesome graphics software that runs comfortably under XP; some radio stuff... and I to dev testing there to make sure that my stuff works with older OS's as well as newer.
[20:58:03] <chromas> Have you tried running the applications in wine?
[20:58:22] <AzumaHazuki> Works good for my MIDI sequencer, though newer versions of Windows have newer MIDI softsynths (gm.dls) what should be backported
[20:58:33] <fyngyrz> I have tried wine several times, it always fell well short. They really don't do a good job of covering the Windows APIs
[20:58:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i only run virtualbox in wine
[20:59:27] <fyngyrz> for instance, there's a font API in Windows XP (and all three architecture builds of NT) -so it's old, and very stable - that wine doesn't address.
[20:59:37] <chromas> Inside that vbox-on-wine is Microsoft Linux inside Ubuntu on Windows, right?
[20:59:41] <AzumaHazuki> fyngyrz: Wine runs this one specific program called Super Jukebox really well. It's a Super Famicom (SNES) music player with an amazing visualizer.
[20:59:44] <fyngyrz> For graphics software, that's a real nail in the coffin
[21:00:18] <fyngyrz> I see. Well, playing music isn't something I use my computer for. Milage always varies with what we want to do.
[21:00:19] <AzumaHazuki> being as deaf as I am there's something really useful about being able to see not only spectrogram output but also what each channel is doing, ADSR envelopes, volume, sample number, etc
[21:00:22] <chromas> Wouldn't graphics software bring its own font rasterizer?
[21:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, of course. only for games though. nethack ftw.
[21:00:55] <fyngyrz> depends. This particular API does scaling, rotation, and skew and hands you a mask; that's a very handy API
[21:01:15] <fyngyrz> you give it a matrix, it gives you a mask. Really nice.
[21:01:49] <fyngyrz> There are two reasons to use an OS API as far as I'm concerned.
[21:01:51] <chromas> Time to invent libwindows
[21:02:03] <fyngyrz> one, if it does what you need and keeps you from adding cruft
[21:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, welcome to the club. i was the sort of brilliant teenager who laid on his bed using his home stereo speakers like headphones.
[21:02:20] <fyngyrz> two, if it's reliable
[21:02:33] <AzumaHazuki> i was born this way. same pattern as my mother has
[21:02:33] <fyngyrz> if those are met, I'm happy to use it
[21:02:58] <AzumaHazuki> ...well, it was, until mine got worse early this year :/
[21:02:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> full frequency range or specific?
[21:03:17] <fyngyrz> otherwise, yeah, add a rasterizer. But in an XP or other older environment, it's not really a great idea to duplicate existing functionality without a compelling reason. Lower memory bounds, less CPU power, etc.
[21:03:21] <AzumaHazuki> average 60dB, as good as 20dB around 200-600Hz, as bad as 70dB around 1.4KHz
[21:03:32] <AzumaHazuki> in plain english, vowels are mostly okay, consonants...not so much
[21:03:43] <fyngyrz> we will type to you
[21:03:45] <fyngyrz> :)
[21:03:53] <AzumaHazuki> yeah this is another reason i like IRC
[21:03:57] <AzumaHazuki> and why i type a good 150+ WPM
[21:04:09] <fyngyrz> especially as you tend to use your brain out there, unlike... some... of our posters
[21:04:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> you win then. mine is mostly an issue of hearing over the tinnitus.
[21:04:55] <AzumaHazuki> eh, i can deal with the brainless trolls...it's the ones who ought to know better that get me. Proving once again that INT and WIS ain't the same thing *sigh*
[21:05:19] <fyngyrz> lernign is easy. UNlearning. apparently not
[21:05:28] <fyngyrz> learning
[21:05:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> wisdom: the comb life gives you when your hair starts falling out
[21:05:29] <fyngyrz> duh
[21:05:36] <fyngyrz> oh yes, well said
[21:05:51] <fyngyrz> m gonna add that to the bot
[21:06:12] <AzumaHazuki> why is it one of the dumbest (WIS) motherfuckers we've got on here is old enough to be my father then? :/
[21:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for it. i stole it from a stall wall or some such.
[21:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> because stupidity that polished takes decades of practice.
[21:07:40] <fyngyrz> Well, you do have to have somewhere to *put* wisdom, or it doesn't work
[21:07:48] <fyngyrz> also...
[21:08:13] <fyngyrz> Learning is easy. Un-learning, apparently not.
[21:08:51] <fyngyrz> okay, it's in dict
[21:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> learning's hard. being taught is easy but prevents wisdom.
[21:11:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[21:11:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[21:11:25] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 614
[21:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> growl snarl
[21:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> me and TR's kids is havin us a come to jesus meetin over dish washing finesse when they get back from their mom's friday.
[21:16:32] <chromas> Say, have you got any jumper cables?
[21:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are three fucking mushrooms growing under the sink where cabinet meets floor
[21:17:11] <chromas> Sounds like they're saving you $3 in groceries
[21:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even back inside the cabinet. out in the damned kitchen.
[21:17:46] <fyngyrz> Buy them a deeper sink. A lot deeper. Then put them in it.
[21:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima institute a "if the floor's even slightly damp you have to sweep and mop on top of dishes" rule
[21:19:51] <fyngyrz> add mow the lawn, clean the catbox, and do 100 pushups. Then it'll only happen most of the time.
[21:20:10] <fyngyrz> because learning... we had that discussion already :)
[21:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn. ef really been workin his troll the past day or two. that's an impressive number of downmods i have to sift through to check for mod bombs.
[21:23:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nm. my eyes must not be awake from that nap yet. that was ef and runaway both together.
[21:24:15] <chromas> I need to shitpost more. I only lost one karma in the last couple years
[21:24:43] <Sulla> Too much work
[21:24:53] <Sulla> can we hire high energy trolls to shitpost?
[21:25:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ... it's a slow as hell week when i lose less than ten. that's without actually shitposting. or even trolling.
[21:25:33] <chromas> I don't think we can afford the Russians
[21:25:38] <Sulla> THE RUSSIANS
[21:25:46] <fyngyrz> **RUSSIANS** !!!
[21:26:37] <fungus> fyngyrz-> 04RUSSIANS
[21:26:38] <chromas> But maybe we can hire CTR
[21:28:19] * Sulla McCarthy
[21:28:24] Sulla is now known as McCarthy
[21:28:36] <McCarthy> I think CTR got broken at the end of the First Meme War
[21:28:42] <McCarthy> They are ShareBlue/ShariaBlue now
[21:28:46] McCarthy is now known as sulla
[21:29:04] <chromas> JIDF then?
[21:31:01] * chromas puts up an ICO for 10 trillion trollcoins
[21:31:18] <fyngyrz> mmm, trollcoins
[21:31:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd buy that for a dollar
[21:31:44] <fungus> fyngyrz-> which come in 04red or 11blue
[21:31:59] <sulla> Im down for some trollcoins
[21:32:10] <sulla> this Link has made me a buttload of money in the past couple of weeks and need a new scam
[21:32:11] <fungus> fyngyrz-> and 08yellow for ACs
[21:32:23] <chromas> The icon will be a Hanukkah gelt
[21:32:33] <fyngyrz> with a nazi cross rampant
[21:32:39] <AzumaHazuki> Runaway got a few -1 Trolls from me because he was being a troll :v but I haven't seen eth around recently
[21:32:59] <AzumaHazuki> also, there is something wrong with that guy. He sounds like he's either drunk or in a bad depressive/dissociative fugue half the time
[21:33:20] <chromas> Well, he does live in California
[21:33:40] <fyngyrz> As near as I can tell, he *is* drunk a good deal of the time he's posting
[21:33:40] <AzumaHazuki> no, Runaway. Eth just sounds like a garden-variety asshole, the human equivalent of goatse.jpg
[21:33:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> he don't have as much time to carefully craft trolls nowadays.
[21:33:46] <sulla> up to 96.42% positive moderating
[21:34:13] <fyngyrz> I've never seen one of those in my garden, I have to tell ya
[21:34:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no more sitting in class fucking around on sn or irc for him. had to fully join the working world.
[21:34:47] <fyngyrz> aw
[21:34:50] <AzumaHazuki> LOL! Serves him exactly right
[21:35:47] <sulla> "Come to think of it, we're also a hell of a lot further to the social right (authoritarianism) than to the social left (libtertarianism) too. Nice try, Sulla."
[21:35:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. thankfully i put the mental and physical effort into getting myself out of the hell of wage slavery.
[21:36:01] <sulla> i really like the square political allignment chart
[21:36:13] <chromas> Political compass
[21:36:22] <AzumaHazuki> Yeah, the one with the two axes. That's exactly the one i had in mind with that post
[21:36:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> all political arguments should involve at least two axes.
[21:36:59] <sulla> We typically run in the top half with i think most of soylent being in the bottom half
[21:37:11] <AzumaHazuki> i end up somewhere a bit left of center on the economic axis, and waaaaay over left (down, on that chart) on the libertarian/authoritarian axis. ...apparently Gandhi was around there?
[21:37:13] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[21:37:13] <Bender> Added quote 867
[21:37:33] <fyngyrz> 2: Not Enough Axis
[21:37:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The “Unpatchable” Exploit That Makes Every Current Nintendo Switch Hackable [Updated] - http://sylnt.us - unswitched
[21:37:47] * TheMightyBuzzard axes fyngyrz a question
[21:38:07] <AzumaHazuki> people do tend to conflate economic left/right with liberty left/right in political discussions though, and that's a real problem
[21:38:08] <fyngyrz> Knife of you to think of me. Edgy.
[21:38:33] <chromas> Will somebody please remove these cutleries from my knees?
[21:38:36] <AzumaHazuki> for my part, i realized as a child that "the fewest rules" does *not* lead to "the most freedom for the most people." And this seems to be too much for some people to comprehend.
[21:38:39] <fyngyrz> agreed
[21:38:49] <fyngyrz> I'll take a stab at it, chromas
[21:39:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> the main problem is neither party are even attempting to be on one side or the other of either axis. they're both fucking around on the lala land z-axis
[21:39:19] <fyngyrz> yeah, but the wrong rules don't get you there either
[21:39:58] <AzumaHazuki> agreed. i like the idea of regulating smarter, not harder. as simple as possible (but no simpler) and in ways that leave as little room for shiteating weasel-wording lawyer-torture of the rules as possible
[21:40:12] <fyngyrz> sounds good on its face
[21:40:16] <AzumaHazuki> also some kind of built-in defence against regulatory capture
[21:40:27] * TheMightyBuzzard tips hat
[21:41:08] <fyngyrz> Azuma: http://fyngyrz.com
[21:41:09] <upstart> ^ 03Should there be a law? &laquo fyngyrz
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[21:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'where i come from but i tend to err or the side of individual liberty if i haven't given an issue sufficient thought.
[21:42:03] <AzumaHazuki> fyngyrz, yeah, i've seen this before...roughly looks good
[21:42:20] <fyngyrz> can always use input
[21:42:22] * TheMightyBuzzard looks at the clock impatiently
[21:42:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt it's five o'clock somewhere
[21:42:33] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[21:42:34] <upstart> ^ 03Alan Jackson, Jimmy Buffett - It's Five O' Clock Somewhere - YouTube
[21:42:46] <AzumaHazuki> not sure how to improve this right now, TBH. this may actually *be* "as simple as possible but no simpler"
[21:42:56] <sulla> <AzumaHazuki> people do tend to conflate economic left/right with liberty left/right in political discussions though, and that's a real problem - Agreed
[21:43:04] <fyngyrz> also agree
[21:43:06] <sulla> I am pretty left when it comes to people doing whatever the hell they want to do
[21:44:08] <AzumaHazuki> i have this uncomfortable feeling that human laws don't scale too well...
[21:44:16] <Ellenor> regulate smarter, harder if necessary
[21:44:47] <sulla> Human laws or "western laws"?
[21:44:53] sulla is now known as Sulla
[21:44:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't, that's why we were supposed to be a union of nations instead of a single nation.
[21:45:20] <Ellenor> dunno
[21:45:23] <Sulla> #balkanize usa
[21:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if one got fucked up it didn't take the rest down with them.
[21:45:40] <AzumaHazuki> interesting idea, but we're stuck with the South anyway :v
[21:45:43] <Ellenor> psychodotardia
[21:45:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're also stuck with ny and cali though
[21:46:12] <AzumaHazuki> Sounds good to me :) Remember I'm from NYC, and as much as I dump on it, it's still home
[21:46:30] <Sulla> How can you live around that many people without going insane?
[21:46:38] <Ellenor> You can't.
[21:46:43] <AzumaHazuki> I managed it somehow
[21:46:52] <Sulla> I find eugene, OR to be too busy
[21:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but wall street's in nyc as well as the normal human areas
[21:46:59] <Sulla> and its not even a quarter million
[21:47:20] <AzumaHazuki> indeed it is. and i wouldn't mind that lot getting hit by a convenient asteroid, personally
[21:47:28] <AzumaHazuki> (Wall Street, not Eugene)
[21:47:51] <Sulla> Im not judging
[21:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn but this is a fun adhd afternoon. it's taken years for eight minutes to tick away.
[21:49:13] * TheMightyBuzzard is impatiently waiting till 5 to go get a pizza so he doesn't end up hungry again before bed
[21:49:25] <chromas> Just get two pizzas
[21:49:30] <Sulla> not yet three here, suffering
[21:49:46] <fungus> fyngyrz-> 🍕🍕🍕
[21:49:59] <fyngyrz> mmm, pizza
[21:50:13] <AzumaHazuki> shift two begins in 10 minutes...food service is so much fun when you're half friggin' deaf
[21:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, TR will be home tomorrow and i've already tortured his keto-dieting ass with pizza once this week.
[21:50:37] <AzumaHazuki> and yet i end up being the frontend girl most of the time because damn do we ever get a lot of Spanish speakers here and what language do Chinese *not* speak...?
[21:51:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, they can't even make up their mind what language chinese is. they gotta have two of em.
[21:51:36] <chromas> Just like Spanish
[21:51:40] <fyngyrz> way more than two
[21:51:52] <fyngyrz> you're thinking Mandarin and Cantonese. But there are many more.
[21:52:17] <AzumaHazuki> yeah there's over a dozen dialects
[21:52:33] <fyngyrz> Mandarin is government mandated and has been for some time... so that's the one to go for if you have to choose one.
[21:52:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's true of english as well though
[21:52:41] <AzumaHazuki> Putonghua (Standard Chinese) is basically stripped-down Beijing Mandarin without some of the more slangy bits
[21:53:02] <AzumaHazuki> really, China is a lot more like the EU than the US. Most dialects are almost completely unintelligible
[21:53:14] <fyngyrz> no, these are more like our Native American Indian languages; they're not really related to either Mandarin or Cantonese. Haklo, etc.
[21:53:21] <fyngyrz> right
[21:53:33] <fyngyrz> I speak some chinese.
[21:53:58] <AzumaHazuki> i can read some, but can't reliably make the tones @_@ Japanese is so much easier since it's not tonal. and there's a (couple of) syllabaries
[21:54:24] <fyngyrz> Mandarin. I find it very difficult. Romance languages come (relatively) naturally to me, but Chinese... ugh.
[21:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> my little brother does. i never wanted to learn. i should get back to rosetta stone japanese II though one of these days.
[21:54:32] <Sulla> I spent too long decided whether to learn Chinese/which dialect or Russian after I had finished with japanese. Ended up never deciding so not learning anything
[21:54:50] <fyngyrz> Japanese is very orderly; I don't have a problem with it.
[21:55:02] <AzumaHazuki> Mandarin for sure. we're all gonna be speaking it sooner or later anyway :v
[21:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> well so are the people. they're just also insane.
[21:55:15] <fyngyrz> oh, I hope not. I like plurals. :)
[21:55:20] <AzumaHazuki> i can curse in Russian a bit and read most words in it, but don't know what it means
[21:55:32] <fyngyrz> cyrillic
[21:55:49] <Sulla> I'll die before I have to learn or use Mandarin
[21:55:50] <AzumaHazuki> ...on the other hand neither do my co workers, so I can "idi nakhuy!" at the phone now and then without getting written up :v
[21:56:04] <Sulla> The whole "western vs eastern" rights thing pissed me off too much
[21:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> at the moment i can do about five languages badly (including english) and i'm working on badly for japanese
[21:56:26] <fyngyrz> a nice orderly alpha bet. Kind of like Korean. I can read Korean fluently; you ask me what it means, though, and if it's not martial arts related or a basic pleasantry, I'll just stare at ya. :)
[21:56:27] <AzumaHazuki> china's going to rule the planet pretty soon, Sulla :/ better get a head start on it. the Pax Americana is over
[21:57:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they'll have the same problems with russia that we did
[21:57:18] <mechanicjay> AzumaHazuki: "We're all gonna be speaking [Mandarin] sooner or later anyway" -- Isn't that we said about Japanese in the 80's?
[21:57:20] <chromas> We can teach our kids, but our generation probably only needs to learn engrish
[21:57:34] <AzumaHazuki> i don't know, Jay. I was born in 85. And actually *can* speak a little Japanese
[21:57:52] <AzumaHazuki> thought i was going to do business there, so I sound like a weirdly polite three year old
[21:57:56] <Sulla> Dont need or want to be a world superpower
[21:58:01] <Sulla> I just want to be soverign
[21:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i want to be batman
[21:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, wait, jimmy buffet
[21:58:31] <AzumaHazuki> Sulla, China might not allow that...these are people with 5000 years of history, and they probably have a "manifest destiny" complex that'll make 19th century America look benign
[21:58:48] <AzumaHazuki> i have a feeling they kind of naturally think they're the world's owners by virtue of being its oldest civilization still running
[21:58:57] <Sulla> Our worst case scenario is an ecomonic outlook like Russia
[21:59:01] <Sulla> Thats bs though
[21:59:16] <Sulla> if they hadn't burned all their records and vilified their pre-mao history then yearh
[21:59:17] <AzumaHazuki> okay, i better go...work beckons (again)
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[21:59:26] <Sulla> have the fun
[21:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto except pizza
[21:59:29] <fyngyrz> cheers
[21:59:41] <Sulla> need to get off work so i can have a cigar
[22:00:25] <Sulla> buddy and I bought some very exclusive Don Pepin My Father cigars that are hard to come by but I know a guy who knows Don Pepin
[22:01:06] <Sulla> We have ones for the end of the NK war, NK Peace, or new NK conflict. something needs to get settled or started so I can smoke em
[22:09:49] <Sulla> Chromas, I think you were telling me about the incredible amount of tax on cigars where you are
[22:11:17] <chromas> That sounds about right
[22:12:50] <Sulla> So what do cigars cost? Say a Don Pepin Blue, or a Red Dot, etc? so, cost of a "fine" cigar?
[22:13:19] * chromas doesn't actually know
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