#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-04

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[01:17:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - French Universities Cancel Subscriptions to Springer Journals - http://sylnt.us - do-they-get-their-money-back
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[02:38:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kepler Telescope Spots a Fast Supernova - http://sylnt.us - hot-and-transient
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[04:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FirstEnergy Solutions' Bankruptcy is a Cautionary Tale for Utilities, Investors, & Public Officials - http://sylnt.us - dirty,-expensive,-obsolete-technology
[04:40:48] <chromas> "A woman who shot three people and then took her own life at YouTube’s headquarters Tuesday had become angry at the company because it stopped paying her for videos she posted on the platform, her father told the Bay Area News Group Tuesday night."
[04:41:00] <chromas> Aha, so she was demonetized!
[05:56:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Unprecedented Contrast Agent to Measure the Age of Skin and Blood Vessels - http://sylnt.us - thin-skinned
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[07:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Want to Hack a Voting Machine? Hack the Voting Machine Vendor First - http://sylnt.us - get-yourself-elected
[08:58:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Admits a Load of its CPUs Have Spectre V2 Flaw That Can't be Fixed - http://sylnt.us - defect-closed-will-not-fix
[10:35:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Awards Quiet Supersonic Aircraft Contract to Lockheed Martin - http://sylnt.us - explain
[10:36:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:36:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4040
[11:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:04:52] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 590
[11:27:16] <Bytram> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[11:27:16] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:27:36] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:27:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4041
[11:27:41] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:27:43] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[11:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.ghacks.net
[11:28:51] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:28:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:29:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh, 404
[11:29:16] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:29:17] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[11:29:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure if we can survive without ~blame
[11:30:12] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:30:37] <Bytram> hmmm, who made the computer used in the movie with the Woppr computer?
[11:30:46] <Bytram> #g imsai
[11:30:46] <MrPlow> https://www.imsai.net - "The IMSAI Series Two Project - Some new potential of resources may bring this project back to life. Some important changes are possibly coming about that have the potential to reanimate this grand effort that has held so much promise and hope. For some background on our earlier attempt at this some ten years ago, the ..."
[11:30:48] <upstart> ^ 03The Official IMSAI Web Site
[11:30:52] <Bytram> nope
[11:30:56] <Bytram> #g imsi
[11:30:56] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The International Mobile Subscriber Identity or IMSI /ˈɪmziː/ is used to identify the user of a cellular network and is a unique identification associated with all cellular networks. It is stored as a 64 bit field and is sent by the phone to the network. It is also used for acquiring other details of the mobile in the home location ..."
[11:30:57] <upstart> ^ 03International mobile subscriber identity - Wikipedia
[11:31:01] <Bytram> nope
[11:31:11] <Bytram> #g imsi 8080
[11:31:11] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The IMSAI 8080 was an early microcomputer released in late 1975, based on the Intel 8080 and later 8085 and S-100 bus. It was a clone of its main competitor, the earlier MITS Altair 8800. The IMSAI is largely regarded as the first \"clone\" microcomputer. The IMSAI machine ran a highly modified version of the CP/M ..."
[11:31:12] <upstart> ^ 03IMSAI 8080 - Wikipedia
[11:31:20] <Bytram> huh! had it right the first time
[11:32:13] <Bytram> #g wopr
[11:32:14] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "WarGames is a 1983 American Cold War science fiction film written by Lawrence Lasker and Walter F. Parkes and directed by John Badham. The film stars Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, John Wood, and Ally Sheedy. The film follows David Lightman (Broderick), a young hacker who unwittingly accesses WOPR (War ..."
[11:32:14] <upstart> ^ 03WarGames - Wikipedia
[11:37:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima fuck off and get some vidya in this morning. after a smoke.
[11:38:03] <boru> Lucky you.
[11:38:18] <boru> I haven't had a day off in nearly two months, now.
[11:39:02] <Bytram> boru: Oy! {{{ boru }}}
[11:39:55] <boru> EPARSE.
[11:39:57] <boru> Say what?
[11:40:23] <Bytram> "Oy!" -- expression of suprise, astonishment, amazement... followed by a hug
[11:40:32] <boru> No touching.
[11:40:47] <Bytram> k
[11:40:49] <boru> Is that an ICQ thing, or something?
[11:41:02] <boru> I don't think I've ever seen that before.
[11:41:15] <Bytram> I dunno... have used in e-mails w/ fmaily memebers for many years
[11:41:25] <Bytram> family members, even
[11:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, perks of not being a wage slave. you set your own hours.
[11:46:38] <boru> Well, I do that, currently.
[11:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> down side of self employment is your boss tends to be a bigger slave driver than any wage slave's boss.
[11:46:46] <boru> It's self inflicted in this instance.
[11:47:02] <boru> One of the perks of this gig is unlimited time off.
[11:47:20] <boru> So, I'll probably just take a month or two off when things quiet down here, and go on hiatus.
[11:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like just the thing. i hear yall got some pretty good fishing on your island.
[11:48:23] <boru> If you're not fishing for salmon, then aye.
[11:48:58] <boru> The offshore netting is fecking up the salmon stocks. The Atlantic salmon will be extinct soon, if they don't do something, likely.
[11:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> are they as picky about when/how you fish for trout over there as they ared here?
[11:49:22] <boru> Plus cutting the nets of the fish farms to let the diseased fish out into the wild isn't helping.
[11:49:32] <boru> Trout's fine any time.
[11:49:58] <boru> Salmon is the only licenced fish, iirc.
[11:49:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> that actually is probably fine. diseases getting spread leads to a healthier population in the long run.
[11:50:10] <boru> Not with sea lice, alas.
[11:50:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, universally terminal diseases not so much.
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[12:07:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Everything a VR Studio Had to Do to Port to the Mac - http://sylnt.us - apple-port-of-call
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[12:34:37] <cmn32480> it's been so long since I started him with anything but an up arrow... I forgot the damn commands
[12:35:23] <boru> No history search in your shell?
[12:35:37] <cmn32480> dunno.. I close the shell accidentally
[12:36:02] <boru> With vi keybindings in ksh, for example, I can do `/badgers` to search for badgers in the shell history.
[12:36:05] <cmn32480> I also need to clean up the directory structure that he lives in..
[12:36:07] <boru> Should still be in your history file.
[12:36:12] <boru> What shell are you using?
[12:36:56] <cmn32480> honestly... NFI
[12:37:06] <boru> ctrl+r badgers (ctrl+r repeatedly to search next) or `history | grep badgers` etc.
[12:37:15] <boru> `echo $SHELL`
[12:37:26] <cmn32480> bash
[12:37:49] <boru> The later two ought to work then, assuming you haven't enabled vi keybindings.
[12:38:04] <cmn32480> highly unlikely that I'd have done that
[12:38:24] <cmn32480> ctrl+r works.
[12:38:35] * boru nods.
[12:38:41] * cmn32480 has learned something new... does that mean I get to go home?
[12:38:45] <cmn32480> Thanks!
[12:38:49] <cmn32480> boru++
[12:38:49] <Bender> karma - boru: 21
[12:39:00] <boru> You're welcome, and yes! You are now free!
[12:39:07] <cmn32480> WOOHOO!
[12:39:20] * cmn32480 does thae happy dance and packs up to go home
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[13:29:16] <SoyCow0245> #submit http://www.thedrive.com
[13:29:17] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:29:42] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:29:43] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[13:44:40] <SoyCow0245> #submit http://www.thedrive.com
[13:44:40] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:45:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:45:06] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[13:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DHS Finds Unauthorized Use of "Stingrays" (IMSI Catchers) in Washington, D.C. - http://sylnt.us - a-WOPR-of-a-story
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[15:15:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paper That Found CRISPR "Off-Target Effects" Retracted - http://sylnt.us - Science-at-work
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[15:23:32] <Sulla> ~submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[15:23:53] <Sulla> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[15:23:54] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:24:19] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:24:20] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:37:36] <chromas> #smake MrPlow
[15:37:36] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with a three wood
[15:37:40] <chromas> I don't see the sub
[15:40:27] <chromas> Yep; not even in MrPlow's sub history.
[15:57:18] <pinchy> its time for james damore to get some guns and mozy on over to google HQ
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[16:03:51] <Sulla> Only worried if demore is a registered democrat
[16:04:03] <chromas> The internet says he's jewish. OMFG! Google == anti-semites!
[16:06:51] <Sulla> Its another shoah!
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[16:15:08] <Sulla> So did the demore case in california fail yet?
[16:15:38] <chromas> If it did, are you gonna say "Oh, shoot!"
[16:16:04] <Sulla> Dont care either way
[16:16:37] <Sulla> Seems he was fired for expressing himself, but private corps are not the government and can do whatever they want
[16:17:24] <chromas> People are still writing articles shitting on him though
[16:19:13] <Sulla> This whole "men and women are the exact same" thing is weird
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[16:26:30] <chromas> https://www.documentcloud.org
[16:26:31] <upstart> ^ 0318 CIV 00442 ( https://www.documentcloud.org )
[16:26:58] <chromas> #tell Sulla https://www.documentcloud.org
[16:26:58] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[16:27:20] <chromas> Thanks for not assuming gender, MrPlow
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[16:55:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Orders Mandatory Recall of Triangle Pharmanaturals Kratom Products - http://sylnt.us - B-b-b-but-the-Salmonella-is-natural,-too!
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[19:27:23] <fyngyrz> $aa {tm}
[19:27:23] <fungus> fyngyrz: 132723
[19:27:42] * fyngyrz sez hello to my leetle bot
[19:27:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> what does your bot do?
[19:28:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> !uid
[19:28:01] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6916, owned by SANTABERNADET
[19:28:02] <fyngyrz> pretty much anything
[19:28:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> $help
[19:28:11] <fungus> Hi, I'm a bot. "/msg fungus 06$cmds" for a list of my commands, or see https://github.com for more general details.
[19:28:12] <upstart> ^ 03GitHub - lrstanley/Code: Code - Python IRC Bot
[19:28:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> Sweet, a user guide.
[19:28:31] <fyngyrz> it's a gateway to instances of my macro language,
[19:28:46] <fyngyrz> yeah, but no
[19:29:08] <fyngyrz> I should redirect that to what it does now
[19:29:47] <fyngyrz> Here's what it's doing:
[19:30:15] <fyngyrz> http://ourtimelines.com
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[19:31:58] <fyngyrz> there
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[19:32:21] <fyngyrz> $help aa
[19:32:22] <fungus> 06Help : aa text
[19:32:22] <fungus> 06Example: $aa text (where text will be processed by aa_macro)
[19:32:45] <chromas> Does it have $submit yet? :)
[19:32:47] <fyngyrz> right now, it's in admin mode, so it's only available to me
[19:33:23] <fyngyrz> Pretty sure implementing submit is trivial. If I knew what needed to be done to do a submit
[19:33:56] <fyngyrz> does the submit thing access a soylent api?
[19:34:23] <chromas> It does
[19:34:30] <fyngyrz> ok... pointer?
[19:34:42] <fyngyrz> api doc, I mean
[19:34:45] <chromas> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:34:47] <upstart> ^ 03ApiDocs - SoylentNews
[19:34:53] <fyngyrz> k, sec
[19:35:20] <chromas> Submitting is trivial; scraping pages is the hard part because there's no standards involved
[19:35:37] <fyngyrz> so submit doesn't do the scraping?
[19:35:37] <chromas> But if you had a tool like boilerpipe or the script firefox uses for its reader mode
[19:36:01] <fyngyrz> when I do a submit here, it gets some form of summary
[19:36:10] <chromas> arthur bot has a scraper or some sort. The other bots extract the summary meta tags from the html
[19:36:11] <fyngyrz> is that not in the API, but ahead of it?
[19:36:44] <chromas> Yeah. You can do whatever you want to get the article content, then use the api to do the submitting
[19:37:39] <fyngyrz> wow... and the API is a mess
[19:37:49] <fyngyrz> basically lego blocks
[19:38:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, if you want to rewrite rehash in Python, go ahead...
[19:38:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> :-P
[19:38:46] <chromas> That's just the way we like it around here. billy-madison-sloppy-joes.mp4
[19:39:46] <fyngyrz> it has nothing to do with python. It has to do with the api being fragmented
[19:40:25] <fyngyrz> well, doesn't matter. no need to reinvent the wheel; the scraping's already done somewhat
[19:40:41] <fyngyrz> that's not why I did this anywya
[19:42:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> well I'm assuming you don't want to fuck around with the Perl code that rehash runs on now
[19:42:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> I know I sure don't
[19:42:34] <fyngyrz> well, I may, but only to help with it, not to rewrite it
[19:42:48] <fyngyrz> in python, I mean
[19:43:09] <fyngyrz> I'm pretty good with perl. I just hate it, because it sucks
[19:43:24] <chromas> How about porting it to c#?
[19:43:30] <fyngyrz> and when it doesn't suck, it blows
[19:44:56] <fyngyrz> I have not looked into c#. I have written quite a bit of c and c++ though
[19:45:09] <fyngyrz> neither one is a great candidate for somehting like soylent
[19:45:15] <fyngyrz> imho
[19:45:34] <fyngyrz> Python definitely would be. BUt... as a rewrite? oy.
[19:45:50] <chromas> EF had a c♯ bot
[19:47:06] <fyngyrz> yeah, you could write a bot in anything. I just wanted to start with something in Python
[19:47:28] <fyngyrz> This one was very easy to get going and customize
[19:49:09] <chromas> I don't think we've had a java bot here yet
[19:51:33] <fyngyrz> $aa {tm}
[19:51:33] <fungus> fyngyrz: April 4th, 2018 1:51 PM MST
[19:51:37] <fyngyrz> there you go
[19:52:15] <fyngyrz> better
[19:52:21] <fyngyrz> $aa {dt}
[19:52:21] <fungus> fyngyrz: April 4th, 2018 1:52 PM MST
[19:53:16] <fyngyrz> mm. I should log this into test as well as the normal channels for fudging around
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[20:16:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Thermodynamics and Chloroform - http://sylnt.us - if-I-could-turn-back-time
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[20:36:13] <pinchy> https://pbs.twimg.com
[20:37:50] <chromas> Pushing Expanding Mind meme to its maximum
[20:38:10] <chromas> s/Mind/Brain/
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[20:41:32] <pinchy> https://github.com
[20:41:33] <upstart> ^ 03holeybeep/am_i_vulnerable.sh at master · holeybeep/holeybeep · GitHub
[20:43:18] * chromas doesn't have beep command
[21:19:56] <FatPhil> bad patch, if I were maintainer of beep, I'd ask for it to be rewritten.
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[21:37:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Valve Clears the Air on its Removal of the Steam Machine Section From its Store - http://sylnt.us - spring-steam-cleaning
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[23:08:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cryosat Used to Measure Retreat of Antarctic Glaciers - http://sylnt.us - science
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