#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-01

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[01:45:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australian Health Dept in Breach for Publishing Data of 2.5 Million People - http://sylnt.us - nothing-to-hide
[02:14:52] <Bytram> bed time for bonzo... have a great night, everyone!
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[03:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, out until i get home tomorrow afternoon. laters
[03:55:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Valve Removed the Steam Machine Section from Steam - http://sylnt.us - running-out-of-steam
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[06:17:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sopranica: an Open Source, DIY Cell Network - http://sylnt.us - call-me
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[06:52:53] <Ethanol-fueled> How ya doin' niggaz?
[06:53:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Nuthin like a big-bite hawt dawg with nacho cheeze!
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[08:02:20] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: a happy, touching, and heartwarming news story for you: https://www.zerohedge.com
[08:02:21] <upstart> ^ 03Boobs & Board Meetings: Tokyo 'Hooters' Now Offers Rental Work-Spaces | Zero Hedge
[08:02:37] <FatPhil> OK, it's simply a news story that mentions boobs
[08:26:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CRISPR Plants Won't be Regulated - http://sylnt.us - oh,-that's-not-crispy-plants
[09:23:44] <FatPhil> https://vimeo.com
[09:23:44] <upstart> ^ 03Man On The Curtain on Vimeo
[09:24:41] <FatPhil> from https://soranews24.com
[09:24:42] <upstart> ^ 03Japanese company makes virtual shadow boyfriends to help protect women who livepalone【Videos】 | SoraNews24
[10:47:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Exasperated Amazon Customer Films 62 FEET of Wrapping Paper Used to "Protect" Bag of Dog Food - http://sylnt.us - 19-meters
[11:34:52] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:34:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4032
[11:42:04] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org Try and read this without cracking your knuckles
[11:42:04] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[11:42:12] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[11:42:42] * Bytram taps exec on the shoulder
[11:42:46] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[12:25:31] <Teckla> Embarrassing question time: Is there a place in Soylent News you can go to see all the threads of conversation you've participated in?
[12:39:01] <FatPhil> Teckla: "you" "info"
[12:50:52] <Bytram> Teckla: Try this link: https://soylentnews.org
[12:50:53] <upstart> ^ 03Teckla - SoylentNews User
[12:51:35] <Teckla> Thank you both -- not sure where to go from there, though...
[12:52:50] <Bytram> I thought you wanted to see your comment posting history... load the link I just posted and scroll down. Unless I am mistaken, you should see them on that page.
[12:53:24] <Bytram> Teckla: ^^^
[12:53:53] <Teckla> Oh, Lord. I'm a dope. I didn't scroll down.
[12:53:56] <Teckla> Thanks!
[12:54:02] <Bytram> NP! HTH!
[12:54:07] <Teckla> Thanks FatPhil and Bytram :)
[12:54:39] <Bytram> btw, can you believe it's been over 4 years since you set up a nick on the site?
[12:56:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.bbc.com
[12:57:00] <upstart> ^ 03Misspelled Acomb sign proclaims 'Chris is Risen' - BBC News
[12:57:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Thanks upstart.
[12:57:32] <Bytram> and AMD is Ryzen ? ;)
[13:01:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> ....sure?
[13:01:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> Is the high point of Star Trek: Enterprise really that the captain has a cute beagle named Porthos?
[13:07:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Talented 87-Year-Old Grandmother Creates Incredible Works of Art Using Microsoft Paint - http://sylnt.us - it's-called-painting-after-all
[13:24:36] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Please! No spoilers!
[13:29:35] <Bytram> break time... afk
[13:33:51] <FatPhil> Shrine crisis ~ Chris is risen (anagram)
[13:35:10] <FatPhil> Yay, g/f's gonna bring back Krispy Kremes for me. How excited should I be?
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[15:26:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mummy Found in 'Empty' Coffin Could be Egyptian High Priestess - http://sylnt.us - are-you-my-mummy?
[15:58:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: I haven't started yet...and am considering not bothering with it.
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[17:42:23] <fyngyrz> No, the high point of Star Trek Enterprise is the relationship between T'Pol and Trip. Definitely. That, and watching captain Archer and placing bets on how wooden his acting can go
[17:47:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Orange Snow Created "Martian Landscape" at Russian Winter Olympics Resort - http://sylnt.us - as-long-as-it's-not-yellow
[17:51:27] <chromas> I just noticed the forced green theme. Is this April 1?
[17:52:37] <chromas> If the gradients were stripped out, it'd look just like Windows 10
[17:52:55] <chromas> (and the rounded borders)
[18:25:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It? - The New York Times - http://sylnt.us - IGNORE-ME
[19:06:05] <FatPhil> I'm vt100 theme, I got nothing special here
[19:07:51] <FatPhil> another site I use did quite a funny one (the website is part funded by an ABInBev offshoot now, so it's a bit on an in joke. https://www.ratebeer.com
[19:08:33] <FatPhil> it's basically an opportunity to let your hair down, crowd-sourced levity.
[19:26:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It? - http://sylnt.us - IGNORE-ME
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[20:07:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Visa Applications May Soon Require Five Years of Social Media Info - http://sylnt.us - quite-an-assumption
[21:25:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Festo's New Bionic Robots Include Rolling Spider, Flying Fox - http://sylnt.us
[22:09:31] <chromas> Next year, sn should allow users to embed images
[22:37:47] <boru> Turn the site into 4chan, you mean?
[22:38:08] <chromas> or imgur
[22:38:44] <boru> Binary adds a lot of storage requirements. One of my biggests regrets was enable binary on one of the NNTP servers I used to run.
[22:39:13] <boru> Granted, people were base64'ing binaries occasionally anyway, but still...
[22:40:09] <chromas> I was thinking more of just <img> tags though
[22:40:35] <chromas> I guess technically that's not embedding, but it's more than just an <a> tag
[22:40:36] <boru> Heh, right, I didn't mean warez.
[22:40:45] <chromas> Sure, wink
[22:41:18] <chromas> Or, keeping in tune with the images theme,
[22:41:20] <chromas> https://i.imgur.com
[22:41:29] <boru> Pft, Real Men™ steganographically embed their warez into images anyway.
[22:41:49] <chromas> Even realer men steganographically embed their images into warez
[22:41:56] <chromas> Ooh, looks like it's irc spam time again
[22:41:56] <boru> Pft, I'm not being entirely facetious.
[22:42:38] <chromas> Fortunately, these channels are speshul and don't get hit with the spam bots anymore
[22:43:08] <boru> Using various text formats to share rootkits and other fun bits was all the rage 20 odd years ago.
[22:43:09] <Bytram> chromas: yep, just saw a spam hit in #debug
[22:43:12] <boru> +s isn't really special.
[22:43:32] <boru> Sensible spammers would cache the channels from before the +s.
[22:43:32] <chromas> It's more special than the bot can handle
[22:43:56] <chromas> Pretty sure you let an oxymoron slip in there somewhere
[22:44:18] <boru> Heh.
[22:44:31] <Bytram> separately, we have Talos standing by and practicing its IRC Cop skillz
[22:45:05] <Bytram> .op
[22:45:05] -!- mode/#soylent [+o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[22:45:12] <boru> This ircd supports extbans, ergo, +q $~a.
[22:45:32] <chromas> But does it support regex bans?
[22:45:36] <boru> Yes.
[22:45:39] <chromas> Noice
[22:45:48] <boru> You can use regexps with exbans.
[22:45:50] <Bytram> does it support bans of marriage?
[22:45:54] <Bytram> ;)
[22:46:12] <chromas> Only straight marriage, otherwise it's bigotus maximus
[22:47:02] <boru> Extbans, even.
[22:47:10] <chromas> The real solution is to require first and last names on IRC
[22:47:19] <chromas> plus gov-issued ID
[22:47:34] <boru> Who needs names when you can use key fingerprints.
[22:47:34] <upstart> +1
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[22:47:56] <boru> And we can hold pubkey parties and drink together.
[22:48:13] <boru> That does require real IDs, though.
[22:48:31] * Bytram rummages around for some sandpaper and starts rubbing it against his fingertips
[22:48:46] <boru> Normally, I don't advocate crossing the streams, but PGP key parties were good fun.
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[22:49:11] <chromas> Crossing the streams? Sound like something from a lemon party
[22:49:20] <Bytram> #g cross the streams
[22:49:20] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Dec 17, 2009 ... Don't cross the streams."
[22:49:22] <upstart> ^ 03Cross the streams - YouTube
[22:49:38] <Bytram> brb
[22:50:08] <boru> Well, it's a Ghostbusters reference, originally.
[22:50:18] <boru> "Don't cross the streams"
[22:50:54] <Bytram> boru: yuppers! One of the funniest stories I have ever seen! I'd rate it right up there with Airplane!
[22:51:12] <boru> Man, the Airplane films are great.
[22:51:26] * chromas has XUL in the fridge
[22:51:37] <boru> Have you seen The Big Bus?
[22:52:20] <boru> If you like Airplane, and The Naked Gun films, you'll enjoy it.
[22:52:26] <chromas> If you mean Bang Bus, then sure
[22:53:05] * Bytram missed both of those two
[22:54:22] <boru> I think chromas needs someone to take him out to chase some tail.
[22:54:36] <chromas> Don't you think it's about time those movies got reboots though? :D :D :D :D
[22:54:52] * boru subjects chromas to scaphism.
[22:55:03] <chromas> Soft semi-reboot prequels
[23:01:40] <boru> Speaking of which, ISTR someone mentioning that they were making a series of Arthur C. Clarke's Chilhood's End.
[23:01:57] <boru> As horrified as I was, initially, I wonder what they've done to it.
[23:02:11] <boru> That's one of my favourite scifi novels.
[23:06:34] <Bytram> nod nod -- was a bit 'strange', as I've not re-read it since the original reading as a teen... but, it was one of the early ones that definitely got me hooked on sci fi back in the day
[23:07:04] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.aerospace.org
[23:07:04] <upstart> ^ 03Tiangong-1 Reentry | The Aerospace Corporation
[23:07:41] <boru> Good question. We're following it at work.
[23:07:56] <boru> It's definitely one of the defining classics, imho.
[23:08:03] <boru> None of that corny happy ending nonsense.
[23:08:07] <Bytram> seems to be a "good enough' link -- how are you tracking it?
[23:08:24] <boru> Ops system at work.
[23:08:52] <Bytram> ?? You have your own satellite monitoring system?
[23:08:53] <boru> We have a big crunchy rig for ephemeris/telemtry projections.
[23:09:02] <Bytram> o_O !!
[23:09:08] <boru> Yeah, for our stuff, but we can produce models for anything.
[23:09:14] * Bytram is jealous!
[23:09:39] <boru> Telemetry, even.
[23:09:47] * boru kldunload whiskey.ko
[23:09:48] <Bytram> so, your tracking is only for 'internal use', eh?
[23:10:32] <boru> In this case, yeah; but anyone can produce models.
[23:10:48] <Bytram> just ask Mattel, right?
[23:11:10] <boru> Heh.
[23:11:27] <boru> It's a very coarse model, in this instance; estimates of mass, drag etc.
[23:11:43] <boru> But the ephemeres are public.
[23:11:47] * Bytram has a theory about one of the scenes in one of the Toy Story movies
[23:12:02] <boru> Grab gpredict, add your own estimates.
[23:12:15] <Bytram> a bunch of 'em come around a corner and see a bunch of Barbie dolls all dancing to some rock-n-roll music...
[23:12:28] <boru> Anyone can estimate our stuff.
[23:12:45] <boru> As to down-to-the-second contacts, you'd need an antenna.
[23:13:26] <Bytram> I gotta think that somebody had a bright idea one night, all whacked out from a crazy day at work...yanno, it would not be that hard to animate a Barbie... and then... hey, if I have one Barbie, I can just clone it and make a bunch of 'em!
[23:13:55] <boru> That's the premise for the Chinese economy.
[23:14:06] <Bytram> so, ws probably done on a lark, got showed around, the gang loved it, and ended up being included in the movie.
[23:14:23] <Bytram> I have no idea if that is the way it worked out, but I would not be at all amazed if that were the case!
[23:14:44] <boru> I'm not sure if I'm following.
[23:15:52] <Bytram> I was wondering how that scene with a bunch of dancing Barbies came about... whether it was planned from the outset, or was done on a lark by a rogue programmer and things just snowballed from there.
[23:16:58] * Bytram favors the idea that it was not planned from the outset, but rather an artist thought it would be cool to do it with one Barbie and, havingg attained that, realized it would be trivial to instantiate a bunch of them, then coordinate with music and have 'em all dancing
[23:17:16] <boru> I'm not familiar with it, but I'd like to think some of my Easter eggs will live long beyond me, given the lifespan of the programs they are in.
[23:17:48] <Bytram> Heh, another meaning of 'Easter' Egg that I had never before perceived!
[23:17:55] <Bytram> boru++ insightful
[23:17:56] <Bender> karma - boru: 19
[23:18:02] <boru> Aren't you a programmer?
[23:18:20] <boru> Sheesh, how did I get so much karma in here?
[23:18:20] <Bytram> yeah, I've done some programming =)
[23:18:27] <Bytram> boru++ like this
[23:18:27] <Bender> karma - boru: 20
[23:18:30] <Bytram> =)
[23:18:41] <boru> Pft, I'm hardly so insightful.
[23:19:41] <Bytram> I always perceived of an Easter Egg as just a little extra something snuck into a program -- never had the idea of it being a means to have something live in perpetuity
[23:20:39] <boru> Heh, not perpetuity, but will outlive me.
[23:20:59] <boru> I've not beaten MEO...yet.
[23:21:11] <Bytram> so, from our own perspectives... essentially the same thing, right? =)
[23:21:14] <boru> But I've got two in MEO.
[23:21:23] <Bytram> #g MEO
[23:21:24] <MrPlow> https://www.meo.pt - "Adira à Fibra do MEO com TV, Net, Telefone e Telemóvel num só Pacote. Compre smartphones na Loja Online com promoções exclusivas e entregas grátis."
[23:21:29] <Bytram> lol
[23:21:32] <Bytram> #g MEO orbit
[23:21:33] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Medium Earth orbit (MEO), sometimes called intermediate circular orbit (ICO), is the region of space around the Earth above low Earth orbit (altitude of 2,000 km (1,243 mi)) and below geostationary orbit (altitude of 35,786 km (22,236 mi)). The most common use for satellites in this region is for navigation, communication, ..."
[23:21:33] <upstart> ^ 03Medium Earth orbit - Wikipedia
[23:25:15] <Bytram> boru: so... what time do you think that Tiangong-1 will have its re-entry?
[23:25:53] <boru> I told our current on-call ops bunch to ping me when the model finished.
[23:26:11] <boru> I've been working all day, so I CBA to check out the work IRC.
[23:26:41] <Bytram> this site I mentioned before ( http://www.aerospace.org ) is predicting: April 2 at 00;30 UTC +/- 1.7 hours
[23:26:57] <Bytram> ~time x
[23:26:58] <exec> Sunday, 1 April 2018 @ 11:26 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[23:27:31] <Bytram> so, they are saying just a bit over an hour from now.
[23:28:15] <Bytram> biab... afk
[23:28:16] <boru> Yeah, I've got an iterative Kalman filtering model on the go to estimate the impact site with far more granularity than that.
[23:28:19] <boru> Right oh.
[23:29:03] <boru> One of the crunchy weather model machines had some downtime, so I took advantage of it.
[23:47:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Case for Microbial Life in the Atmosphere of Venus - http://sylnt.us - this-space-for-rent
[23:48:14] <boru> I'd say that headline is a tough sell.
[23:48:25] <boru> Given the Venera probe observations.
[23:49:52] <boru> Venus is one of the most inhospitable planetary environments I can imagine.
[23:50:22] <boru> Sulphuric acid rain which evaporates before it reaches the ground.
[23:50:38] <boru> Rocky surface in a perpetual molten state.
[23:50:59] <boru> Tough going.