#soylent | Logs for 2018-03-27

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[00:48:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Waiter Asks: Is Being "French" a Protected Human Right? - http://sylnt.us - Oooh-La-La!
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[02:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Live Action Role-Playing Games Attempt Social Change - http://sylnt.us - larping-for-fun-and-understanding
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[04:16:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Craigslist Removes Personals Sections in the U.S. - http://sylnt.us - too-risky-to-keep-running-the-dept-generating
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[05:47:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Expected to Compete Against Chromebooks With Cheaper Education-Focused iPads - http://sylnt.us - cheaper-apple?
[07:16:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Georgia Anti-Hacking Dangerously Misses the Mark of Protecting People, Making Us All Less Safe - http://sylnt.us - Go-to-jail.⠀Go-directly-to-jail.⠀Do-not-pass-Go.⠀Do-pay-$5000
[08:55:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The NSA Worked to "Track Down" Bitcoin Users, Snowden Documents Reveal - http://sylnt.us - jsut-cause-you're-paranoid...
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[09:20:05] <Sulla> I think the problem with term limits is that we had to write it into law
[09:22:19] <Sulla> It was a sort gentleman's agreement that the most anyone would serve was two terms, possibly because Washington relinquished power after two
[09:22:50] <Sulla> It wasn't until we had a true pinko in office that things went wonky
[09:24:24] <Sulla> In some ways though I guess FDR was a good stress test on the system, he affirmed that the exec was the only branch that mattered. Supreme court wont violate the constitution? Tell them you will add more judges til it does.
[09:24:39] <Sulla> Thank god he died before he could become king
[09:39:37] <FatPhil> Every country needs a Kekkonen.
[09:39:59] <FatPhil> And I need a proper RDBME...
[09:40:15] <FatPhil> SELECT count(*) FROM foo ... LIMIT 3005
[09:40:18] <FatPhil> 3447
[09:40:20] <FatPhil> ?!??!?!
[09:42:24] <chromas> Row tax
[09:47:29] <FatPhil> it is limitting its output to 3005 lines, not the selection of data
[09:48:23] <FatPhil> there sooms to be no way of saying "stop counting when you reach X"
[09:48:26] <chromas> That makes sense
[09:49:49] <FatPhil> the weird thing is that it ought to be impossible for it to select more than 3005 anyway
[09:50:37] <FatPhil> query has a where clause that sets a range which only has room for 3005 in it
[09:52:23] <FatPhil> weird race condition mght permit a 3006th to creep in, if the clock's stepped forward, hence my limit
[09:53:25] <chromas> But count() only returns one row so it's under the limit
[09:55:43] <FatPhil> yeah, that's my comment at 12:48
[09:56:34] <FatPhil> there physically should not be more than 3005 rows available.
[09:56:48] <FatPhil> unless date comparison doesn't work
[09:57:01] <FatPhil> that's the next thing I'll look at
[09:57:02] <chromas> Maybe that query's wrong :)
[09:57:24] <Sulla> I forgot that whole part of new parenthood that is unable to sleep because sids is terrifying
[09:59:43] <FatPhil> query needs simplifying to properly debug, as it's got 8 joins, but none of them should change the number of rows returned.
[10:01:00] <Sulla> "Should"
[10:01:13] <chromas> There's probably an alt-right join in there, which is known to make counts seem bigger than they really are
[10:05:17] <Sulla> Doing testing at work looking at changes to queries between old and new versions of peoplesoft, can't find anything in update documentatin that would indicate why but some queries returning different data
[10:17:36] * FatPhil smacks himself viscously around the head
[10:18:03] <FatPhil> user incompetence
[10:25:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Existence of New Form of Electronic Matter - http://sylnt.us - what's-the-matter?
[10:38:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:38:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4020
[10:38:25] <FatPhil> lamb curry soup++
[10:38:33] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:39:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[10:39:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, 404
[10:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> #tell cmn32480 fix yo bot
[10:39:22] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
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[11:34:57] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:34:57] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[11:38:04] <fyngyrz> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's gonna be a good day i believe. think i got the dev vm almost done and about to stop monkeying with it and go fishing.
[11:43:03] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:43:11] <cmn32480> lol
[11:43:14] <cmn32480> well played!~
[11:43:15] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:43:41] * cmn32480 does the happy dance...
[11:43:56] * cmn32480 brought his puppy to the office
[11:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it weren't exec, i'd say we should move him to bery so i could write a bouncer script for him.
[11:44:47] * cmn32480 pokes exec
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[11:45:10] <cmn32480> but it _IS_ exec... so you don't wanna do that
[11:45:27] <cmn32480> 1~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:45:46] <cmn32480> looks like he crapped his pants between midngiht adn 1am
[11:46:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[11:46:16] * exec cautiously cyberbullies a trunkload of dogfart at cmn32480
[11:46:38] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:46:40] * exec flatulantly crossbreeds a pittance of extra cleverness with TheMightyBuzzard
[11:46:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, me and the pup ganging up on you
[11:46:43] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:46:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4021
[11:46:53] <cmn32480> pretty much
[11:46:59] <cmn32480> she loves it here at the office
[11:47:14] <cmn32480> practically dragged me across the lot when we got out odf the car
[11:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[11:48:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> couldn't do that with blow. cats don't do "sit still and be quiet" unless it's their idea.
[11:48:37] <fyngyrz> Even then, they do it creatively. Like on my keyboard.
[11:49:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> cats are furry murderous psychopaths
[11:49:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> which explains why I love them so much.
[11:49:23] <fyngyrz> yes, isn't it great?
[11:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto
[11:49:33] <cmn32480> lol
[11:49:45] <cmn32480> me three
[11:50:35] <fyngyrz> no, me three, you four
[11:50:53] <fyngyrz> your count(*) isn't working
[11:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i am in dire need of nicotine and a refill on my coffee then i think i'm going fishing. would stay and chat more but you lot aren't as much fun as catching lots of fish.
[11:51:47] <cmn32480> me four
[11:51:57] <fyngyrz> there you go
[11:52:05] <fyngyrz> enjoy your face-hooking
[11:52:06] <cmn32480> have fun buzzard
[11:52:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, perfect excuse to whip it out at work
[11:52:20] <fyngyrz> think of cats. They'd be cheering you
[11:57:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Pirate" Site Blocking in Japan and Elsewhere - http://sylnt.us - aaargggh
[12:01:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[12:01:22] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:01:47] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:01:48] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
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[12:04:16] <takyon> https://www.vice.com
[12:04:17] <upstart> ^ 03This Livestream of a Cat Stuck on a Pole Was Fucking Incredible - VICE
[12:05:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.scientificamerican.com Can I get a third arm fitted to improve my ski-boxing?
[12:05:43] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:06:08] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:06:09] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[12:06:11] <takyon> careful there doc oc
[12:06:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> No, it was a Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
[12:06:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Geez, get your nerd media straight.
[12:06:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> :)
[12:08:14] <takyon> https://www.npr.org
[12:08:15] <upstart> ^ 03Tumblr's Ban Of Russian Accounts Adds Detail To Targeting Of Black Americans : NPR
[12:10:37] <takyon> https://www.anandtech.com
[12:10:37] <upstart> ^ 03The Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ Review: Exynos and Snapdragon at 960fps
[12:34:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.engadget.com
[12:34:38] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:34:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> that one should rile some people up.
[12:35:03] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:35:04] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[12:48:03] <takyon> https://arstechnica.com
[12:48:06] <upstart> ^ 03One Strange Rock is a Cosmos for the Earth-bound that’s worth watching | Ars Technica
[12:48:30] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:48:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4022
[12:48:35] <Bytram> afk biab
[13:36:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Foxconn to Acquire Belkin International (Linksys) - http://sylnt.us - don't-jump-to-conclusions
[13:48:59] <cmn32480> ahhhh the assholery continues...
[13:49:16] <cmn32480> building maintenance guy just told me we are a non-pet friendly building
[13:49:31] <cmn32480> I ahve to get permission form the building owner to have my dog here...
[13:49:36] <cmn32480> JFC... seriously?
[13:50:02] <cmn32480> I think he's pissed I told him we don't have the space to store his crap for the building in the warehouse we are renting.
[14:02:43] <takyon> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[14:02:43] <upstart> ^ 03April FAIL as IETF's funny-but-dodgy draft doc arrives a week early • The Register
[14:02:46] <cmn32480> and the building owner just got back to me telling me it is a "liability issue"
[14:03:01] <cmn32480> god damn we need to move the f**k out of this office
[14:03:14] <takyon> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[14:03:14] <upstart> ^ 03Linus Torvalds says new Linux lands next week and he’s sticking to that … for now • The Register
[14:08:33] <takyon> https://www.theverge.com
[14:08:34] <upstart> ^ 03Huawei’s P20 Pro has a unique triple camera and a predictable notch - The Verge
[14:08:57] <takyon> what we need is 3 cameras on each side of the phone
[14:09:20] <fyngyrz> so... 18 of them?
[14:10:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> No, what we need is a phone that includes a bee-sized drone equipped with a 360 degree camera.
[14:10:49] <fyngyrz> There are a lot more degrees in a complete FOV than 360º. Just saying.
[14:11:15] <takyon> a drone that takes off and lands from the phone's battery case
[14:11:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> of course, that will only be available at Wal-Mart, since they're getting a patent on robotic bees: https://www.cnet.com
[14:11:18] <fyngyrz> Technically, a 360º camera gives you a plane.
[14:11:18] <upstart> ^ 03Walmart creates a buzz by filing a robot bee patent - CNET
[14:12:02] <takyon> what the heck kind of degree symbol is this: º
[14:12:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> You're right - we need two 360 degree cameras mounted at right angles to each other.
[14:12:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's a symbol that means "degree" in the temperature or trigonometric sense.
[14:12:55] <takyon> it has a line under it on hexchat
[14:12:58] <fyngyrz> and it's worth noting that the FOV of today's wide angle lenses is both incomplete and badly distorted (although software can fix that... why isn't such software commonly supplied?)
[14:13:32] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[14:13:33] <upstart> ^ 03Rylo: A $500 360-Degree Camera With Image Stabilization - SoylentNews
[14:13:48] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[14:13:50] <upstart> ^ 03Virtual Reality Audiences Stare Straight Ahead 75% of the Time - SoylentNews
[14:13:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> takyon: yeah, wikipedia says the character actually produced is "ordinal indicator" not "degree symbol"
[14:17:12] <fyngyrz> Interesting. It's called out as a degree symbol on the Mac. IT's handy, too - alt-zero.
[14:17:33] <fyngyrz> Also, there's no line under it here.
[14:17:47] <fyngyrz> (Mac client "LImechat")
[14:18:03] <fyngyrz> s/LI/Li/
[14:19:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm not sure if it's actually the same symbol ('cause I'm not in front of a properly set up Linux box right now), but you can get to a similar symbol with Compose, o, o on Linux.
[14:19:39] <fyngyrz> which one - the circle, or the underlined circle?
[14:20:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I suspect that depends on what font you're using, but it's always been just a circle for me.
[14:20:43] <fyngyrz> Are you running linix there now?
[14:21:08] <fyngyrz> s/linix/linux/
[14:21:58] <Bytram> "&deg;" == "°"
[14:22:20] <fyngyrz> yes, produces same as alt-0 for me
[14:22:26] <Bytram> == "&#x00B0;" == "&#176;"
[14:22:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm in front of Winders box; I've got a CentOS VM running on it but I haven't checked what the compose key is and I don't have my SSH key for the system I'm running irssi loaded.
[14:22:44] <fyngyrz> lesse what happens here: 360&deg;
[14:22:47] <fyngyrz> nope
[14:23:08] <fyngyrz> I got a literal ampersand, deg, semicolon
[14:23:14] <Bytram> ditto
[14:23:47] <fyngyrz> k, thx Andy
[14:24:27] <Bytram> maybe is sumthin we should get a bot to xlate for us? ~html &deg;
[14:25:37] <Bytram> and it would return all incarnations of that char: literal char, UNC, named char ref; hex char ref; dec char ref
[14:26:21] <Bytram> there's prolly a web site where one could submit one of these and get all the above returned... then just need to scrape the output. =)
[14:26:39] <Bytram> !uid
[14:26:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6904, owned by shanesmith150
[14:26:45] <Bytram> oh, a new one
[14:27:12] <Bytram> so far this month, we've added 24 nicks
[14:27:29] <Bytram> holding steady with our historical rate of ~1 per day
[15:05:46] <fyngyrz> Do you have a bot that tracks active users? Those that at least continue to log in?
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[15:06:30] <fyngyrz> because adding nicks is diminished by people who don't come back
[15:12:49] * Bytram has no bots... I have a small program that uses the SN api to do some queries and adds results to a flat data file
[15:13:01] <Bytram> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:13:02] <upstart> ^ 03ApiDocs - SoylentNews
[15:13:42] <Bytram> last access is a 'priviledged' item and is not generally available
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[15:15:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Largest Known Mass Difference Between Presumed Brown Dwarf and Companion Planet - http://sylnt.us - not-so-small-dwarf
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[16:47:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ultrathin Endoscope Captures Neurons Firing Deep In The Brain - http://sylnt.us - not-competition-for-Netflix
[18:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Schools in 4 Brazilian Cities Going Vegan Before 2020 - http://sylnt.us - no-bull
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[21:16:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Method Speeds Up Development Of Medication - http://sylnt.us - feeling-salty
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