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[23:56:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Last Male Northern White Rhino 'Sudan' Falls Ill as Species Edges Closer to Extinction - http://sylnt.us - sad-state-of-affairs
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[23:36:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Last Male Northern White Rhino Sudan Falls Ill as Species Edges Closer to Extinction - http://sylnt.us - sad-state-of-affairs
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[21:17:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI-Powered App Helps Physicians Spend More Time with Patients - http://sylnt.us - what-could-possibly-go-wrong?
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[18:48:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's Begun: 'First' IPV6 Denial-Of-Service Attack - http://sylnt.us - knock-knock
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[16:26:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GAO: James Webb Space Telescope Launch Date Likely Will be Delayed (Again) - http://sylnt.us - easier-to-correct-down-here
[15:54:55] * Bytram plinks
[15:51:54] * fyngyrz plonk
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[15:34:38] <janrinok> PM that is, not my tabs
[15:34:22] <janrinok> Mine updates automatically based on Steve Pusser's packages
[15:33:16] <janrinok> lol
[15:33:10] * Bytram restores 44 tabs
[15:32:55] <Bytram> someone enjoys playing keyboards?
[15:32:44] <janrinok> yup that's the one
[15:32:15] <janrinok> 8 desktops and 4 RaspPis
[15:32:11] <Bytram> fwiw (for posterity, this is Pale Mon v27.8.0)
[15:31:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:31:49] <janrinok> nope - linux on all machines
[15:31:34] <Bytram> are you on windows?
[15:31:02] <janrinok> I update yesterday - it works fine
[15:30:43] * Bytram notes the old copy has now shut down
[15:30:41] <janrinok> Lézardrieux comes from the ancient Breton “lez ar Dréo or Drew” which means “near the Trieux” or “les” meaning “château” or “cour”, “ar” meaning “near” and the name of the river.
[15:29:55] * Bytram crosses fingers and attempts to load newest version
[15:29:40] <Bytram> looks like there is a new version of Pale Moon...
[15:27:18] <upstart> ^ 03Category:Lézardrieux - Wikimedia Commons
[15:27:17] <Bytram> pictures: https://commons.wikimedia.org
[15:26:13] <Bytram> ;)
[15:26:06] <Bytram> would that make them lizard people?
[15:26:04] <janrinok> That's my home!
[15:25:44] <Bytram> well, for the 'lizard' one: in 2008 it had a population of 1,624
[15:25:23] <janrinok> and some of the locals insist on speaking Breton just to annoy other French people :)
[15:24:59] <janrinok> not as bad as some but they are really obscure
[15:24:44] <Bytram> yep, not quite obvious, agreed!
[15:24:04] <janrinok> Tre-gee-ye
[15:23:45] <janrinok> Ploo-a
[15:23:40] <Bytram> hmmm, no IPA on that. :(
[15:23:24] <upstart> ^ 03Lézardrieux - Wikipedia
[15:23:23] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Lézardrieux (Breton: Lezardrev) is a commune in the Côtes-d'Armor department of Brittany in northwestern France. The village is situated near the mouth of the estuary of the Trieux river - the suspension bridge (Pont de Lézardrieux) across the river at this point is a French national monument. There is a marina with ..."
[15:23:23] <Bytram> #g Lezardrieux,
[15:23:21] <janrinok> lez-ard-ria
[15:23:19] <MrPlow> Google search. #g <search query>
[15:23:19] <Bytram> #g
[15:23:00] <janrinok> not sure how I would write them
[15:20:31] <Bytram> and, for the non-locals, how ARE those pronounced?
[15:08:10] <janrinok> we have a little giggle each year when the tourist arrive trying to pronounce local names
[15:06:45] <janrinok> try Lezardrieux, Plouha or Tregier
[15:06:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3985
[15:06:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:06:17] <Bytram> biab =)
[15:06:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> only PETA thought that...and they're idiots, so...
[15:06:13] * Bytram obviously needs more coffee
[15:06:03] <Bytram> doh!
[15:06:01] <Bytram> I misread what you wrote. I thought you had "skill"
[15:05:50] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[15:05:35] <Bytram> cept of course, the one that mentions a water creature: Fishkill
[15:05:33] <janrinok> as soon as you told me it was Dutch I could pronounce it, I was trying to apply Russian rules to it for some reason that totally escapes me
[15:05:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, Dutch... also all of the place names around there that end in "kill", which is Dutch for "stream".
[15:05:00] * Bytram might, just maybe, know something about RPI
[15:04:40] <Bytram> lol
[15:04:36] <Bytram> is Dutch, IIRC
[15:04:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, Watervliet was right down the road! And still confuses my wife when we go up there.
[15:04:09] <Bytram> took me the better part of a few months before I could get the "vl" sound out of my mouth for "Watervliet"
[15:04:08] <janrinok> New Yorkers are weird!
[15:04:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Coxsackie" is pronounced "cook sack ee"
[15:03:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> Pronunciation of place names in upstate NY gets weird.
[15:03:40] <Bytram> seems no matter where I've been, there is always a local place name which serves to separate the locals from the outsiders
[15:03:18] <Bytram> yuppers
[15:03:13] <Bytram> call-aw-NEE
[15:03:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> not quite "colony"
[15:03:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> coll-oh-NEE
[15:03:04] <Bytram> hmm
[15:02:47] <Bytram> call-on-EE
[15:02:38] <Bytram> with the emphasis on the last syllable, amirite?
[15:02:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> Colonie, NY is where I grew up; living in Florida is almost always more pleasant from the beginning of October to the middle of April.
[15:01:45] <exec> 10Oymyakon, Sakha Republic, Russia - currently -17°F / -27°C, cloudy, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 59% - Sunday snow showers (-29°F:-3°F / -34°C:-19°C), Monday mostly cloudy (-25°F:3°F / -32°C:-16°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (-21°F:7°F / -29°C:-14°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (-35°F:8°F / -37°C:-13°C)
[15:01:43] <Bytram> ~weather Oymyakon
[15:01:40] <exec> 10Verkhoyansk, Sakha Republic, Russia - currently -23°F / -31°C, cloudy, wind W at 0 mph, humidity 74% - Sunday cloudy (-25°F:-12°F / -32°C:-24°C), Monday cloudy (-30°F:-3°F / -34°C:-19°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (-34°F:-4°F / -37°C:-20°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (-37°F:-8°F / -38°C:-22°C)
[15:01:39] <Bytram> ~weather Verkhoyansk
[15:01:30] <janrinok> that's where my daughter lives ...
[15:01:17] <exec> 10Doncaster, UK - currently 40°F / 4°C, cloudy, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 99% - Sunday showers (35°F:40°F / 2°C:4°C), Monday scattered showers (38°F:48°F / 3°C:9°C), Tuesday scattered showers (32°F:47°F / 0°C:8°C), Wednesday scattered showers (33°F:49°F / 1°C:9°C)
[15:01:16] <janrinok> ~weather doncaster
[15:00:59] <exec> 10Colonie, NY - currently 36°F / 2°C, cloudy, wind NW at 15 mph, humidity 69% - Sunday scattered showers (27°F:38°F / -3°C:3°C), Monday cloudy (23°F:40°F / -5°C:4°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (30°F:41°F / -1°C:5°C), Wednesday rain and snow (31°F:37°F / -1°C:3°C)
[15:00:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Colonie, NY
[15:00:50] <janrinok> snow all gone from here now but still bad in parts of the UK
[15:00:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> I still walked to breakfast in sandals, shorts, and a t-shirt, though.
[15:00:32] <exec> 10Paimpol, France - currently 53°F / 12°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 13 mph, humidity 60% - Sunday showers (41°F:53°F / 5°C:12°C), Monday rain (39°F:52°F / 4°C:11°C), Tuesday rain (40°F:50°F / 4°C:10°C), Wednesday scattered showers (42°F:48°F / 6°C:9°C)
[15:00:29] <janrinok> ~weather
[15:00:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, chilly by our standards.
[15:00:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> heh
[15:00:18] <Bytram> Brrrr!
[15:00:06] <janrinok> you wrap up warm now AndyTheAbsurd, it's down to 64F!
[14:59:44] <exec> 10Tampa, FL - currently 64°F / 18°C, cloudy, wind NE at 14 mph, humidity 38% - Sunday sunny (49°F:74°F / 9°C:23°C), Monday sunny (55°F:75°F / 13°C:24°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (61°F:77°F / 16°C:25°C), Wednesday scattered showers (50°F:69°F / 10°C:21°C)
[14:59:42] <Bytram> ~weather tampa
[14:59:39] * exec deliciously refactors a megabyte of dangly bits for AndyTheAbsurd
[14:59:37] <janrinok> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
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[14:59:21] <Bytram> yep, that's how I misread it every time
[14:58:57] <Bytram> for the interim, unless I hear a better suggestion, I tend to use "nobody"
[14:58:55] <janrinok> I don't know anyone who uses noone - as that would rhyme with 'moon'
[14:58:33] <Bytram> do you avoid using "noone"?
[14:58:28] <janrinok> we also use no-one - but of course that isn't any shorter
[14:58:12] <Bytram> I understand it is a shortening of "no one", but it still looks strange every time I see it , or go to use it
[14:57:43] <Bytram> this word "noone" bugs me to no end.
[14:57:33] <Bytram> btw, English question?
[14:57:17] <Bytram> yep
[14:57:10] <janrinok> don't say that
[14:57:08] <Bytram> at leat that I know about
[14:57:03] <Bytram> I have an acquaintance who has cancer, but otherwise noone I know
[14:57:01] <janrinok> S is in 2 minds about my inability to speak much. Course she likes the quiet - but she misses the regular conversation and banter
[14:56:15] <janrinok> until 18 months ago I didn't know anyone personally that had cancer. Now I know 3!
[14:56:02] <Bytram> you may be, but isn't she enjoying the (relative) quiet?
[14:55:43] <Bytram> for those following along, those were hugs
[14:55:35] <janrinok> S and I are doing OK, although I'm looking forward to getting my throat fixed.
[14:55:33] <Bytram> ((((( JR's daughter )))))
[14:55:25] <Bytram> ((((( JR )))))
[14:55:17] <Bytram> OUCH!!!!!!!!!!
[14:54:55] <janrinok> got some bad news during the week. My daughter has cancer of the thyroid - has an operation 5 days after mine but in separate countries
[14:54:31] <Bytram> and how about YOU and S?
[14:54:20] <Bytram> lol
[14:54:15] * janrinok thinks this might be a case of pot calling kettle but what the hell
[14:54:09] <Bytram> got something like 9 hours like night... first time in a long time
[14:53:55] <janrinok> get some rest - you need it!
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[14:53:45] <Bender> karma - naps: 73
[14:53:45] <Bytram> naps++
[14:53:38] <Bytram> tired... am on vacation this week and plan to *try* to getmore sleep
[14:53:21] <janrinok> I do it to piss the locals off
[14:53:10] <Bytram> kindly of you to use imperial units
[14:53:05] <janrinok> how's things my friend
[14:52:56] <Bytram> lol
[14:52:51] * janrinok spots a Bytram excuse from miles away
[14:52:47] <Bytram> makes me a light weight, eh?
[14:52:33] <janrinok> I see you are working at the speed of light again
[14:52:31] * Bytram just had a phone call and stepped away, all while he was trying to catch up on scrollback
[14:52:05] <Bytram> janrinok: Oh, hey!
[14:26:31] * exec faithfully spews a teaspoonful of puns on Bytram
[14:26:29] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram
[14:26:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3984
[14:26:18] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:06:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Experimentally Demonstrated A Toffoli Gate In A Semiconductor Three-Qubit System - http://sylnt.us - not-toblerone
[13:57:02] <Bender> karma - tea: 586
[13:57:02] <janrinok> tea++
[13:56:59] <janrinok> time for tea
[13:33:56] <janrinok> lol
[13:33:47] <chromas> savingsered
[13:25:37] <janrinok> *saved
[13:25:20] <janrinok> 'Just nouning the verbed noun' - so computes was the word you were looking for, and you could have save an additional letter!
[13:24:01] <janrinok> for me, it depends on how much sleep I managed to get the night before. Sometimes circumstances conspire to prevent me from getting enough so I have to have a bit of a rest during my day. But if I do that to much it spoils the sleep for the next night.
[13:22:51] <chromas> Nah, just nouning the verbed noun
[13:22:34] <chromas> That's no fun though. Plus I can't sleep on cue, so if I'm not sleepy enough I'll end up laying around doing nothing for an hour
[13:21:26] <janrinok> or is that simply a case of this old man not understanding the modern vernacular
[13:20:48] <janrinok> perhaps you should rest rather than 'computers'
[13:20:08] * chromas should goto sleep but computers instead
[13:19:40] <chromas> But only roosters get it in their name. That's cock privilege for ya
[13:19:15] <janrinok> all birds roost as far as I know
[13:18:59] <chromas> But I guess it's not only roosters who roost
[13:18:45] <janrinok> nm, it is not important
[13:18:43] <chromas> Cock -> rooster
[13:18:29] <chromas> Oh, oops. I was thinking of rooster
[13:18:18] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(unit)
[13:18:15] <janrinok> ~g kip
[13:17:55] <janrinok> based on your use of 'roost' before, I thought that you might be settling down for a sleep
[13:17:11] <janrinok> sleep, rest, doze, nod-off, snooze
[13:16:58] <chromas> The internet says untanned hide or sleep
[13:16:47] <exec> kip: unable to find definition
[13:16:41] <chromas> ~define kip
[13:16:33] <chromas> Dart, I think
[13:16:27] <chromas> hm, whatever happened to google's js replacement?
[13:16:06] <chromas> Needs a little js popup calendar
[13:15:33] <janrinok> the basis of the mistake last night was that the date changed, and whoever put in the new date reversed the day and month to use US rules. That confused the system no end
[13:14:19] <janrinok> you going to have a kip now?
[13:13:42] <janrinok> but that reinforces their view of your incompetence, so they tend to look more closely at everything you do. Trust me, I have tried various techniques to avoid the mocking, all to no avail
[13:12:47] * chromas roosts
[13:12:29] <chromas> Sounds like the trick is to just cock up a lot, so everyone else will forget the older ones
[13:11:57] <janrinok> not yet - but you won't forget them. I can remember most of mine and if I get close to forgetting one somebody will always remind me!
[13:11:22] <chromas> I guess the wiki's not being used much
[13:11:09] <chromas> Is there a table somewhere to enshrine my clockups?
[13:09:20] <janrinok> as it was middle of the night for me my attempts at fixing it were almost as bad as yours in the first place
[13:09:17] * exec points at Bytram
[13:09:16] <chromas> ~blame
[13:09:04] <chromas> Oops. I didn't recall messing with the time
[13:08:28] <janrinok> I decided 'not' and corrected the date time of release
[13:08:13] <janrinok> You and FNord had a good cock up over-night. You got the last story that was in the queue to jump 24 hours into Monday - I had to work out whether it was intentional or not
[13:08:12] * chromas hasn't paid enough attention to see how long interest a poll lasts
[13:07:43] <chromas> Polls seem to attract a trickle of comments, so I'll just have to check in every day :D
[13:07:16] <chromas> Slowly
[13:06:45] <janrinok> yup. How are you 'enjoying' your editorial contribution?
[13:05:56] <chromas> That's a weird title
[13:05:54] <janrinok> every story we publish goes out on our own feed too. So I have to be aware of that and make sure Arthur doesn't find them and resubmit them again. I'm now sure what kind of disaster might befall us if I don't ignore them :)
[13:05:35] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Poll | Which best describes how long until ...
[13:05:34] <chromas> \~submit https://soylentnews.org
[13:04:41] <janrinok> It alwas amuses me when potential submitters claim that they cannot find material to submit - we make it fairly easy for them
[13:04:32] <chromas> It was probably soylent
[13:04:25] <chromas> It'd be neat if more sites would include the whole articles in their rss feeds. I saw one site doing it
[13:03:24] <janrinok> If I think of something smart that solves another problem I will include it, but for now I'm content to let it go
[13:02:53] <chromas> The output I've seen has been pretty clean, so good job 👍
[13:02:45] <janrinok> but with 400+ stories to choose from each day, it is wasted effort to concentrate too much on the odd ball sites - if they want to be different I won't bother using them
[13:01:39] <janrinok> even the para definitions are littered with extra crap that we have to remove before it breaks our own site
[13:01:30] * chromas invents Deep Scraping
[13:01:19] <chromas> I wonder if you could train a neural net to find the parts you want
[13:00:48] <janrinok> yep, their are a couple I have found like that - God knows why they do it
[13:00:43] <chromas> And one that used the <article> tags, but only for the stubs they put at the end to entice you to click more
[13:00:21] <chromas> I think I found a major news site awhile back that used <br>s instead of <p>s
[13:00:12] <janrinok> But I can get rid of most of the stuff but it is still not really good enough to submit in some cases, say 10-20% are not up to scratch. So I have to delete some paragraphs manually before submission. I'm working on the automatic submission this afternoon, I've spent a few days cleaning up the product still further and using a different format to make editing easier.
[12:58:13] <janrinok> so, using lxml library, I can strip out everything except for paras, and start with that. Then you have to identify adverts and links to such things as Facebook, Twitter etc which are often also in a para.
[12:56:34] <janrinok> there is, I use a system of templates that are selected based on the URL, but even then it is not consistent. A site can have an amazing diversity of doing the same thing different ways, and as fast as I write a template they think of something else bizarre to do
[12:54:01] <chromas> Oh, I figured there was a per-site rule, like a regex or something
[12:53:24] <janrinok> Unless every web editor follows the same rules when using html - and they most certainly do not - then it will always be less than perfect.
[12:51:56] <janrinok> But it finds me up to 400 stories a day and cleans most of them up to a satisfactory level so I am happy with its performance
[12:51:11] <janrinok> The problems is that Arthur cannot tell a good story from a bad one, nor can it always provide a good clean story (i.e. without js, unwanted html etc) without human intervention
[12:49:38] <janrinok> one or two of the bots already use parts of Arthur
[12:46:20] <janrinok> *It loads
[12:46:09] <janrinok> I loads from any site it gets told about. Currently it scans the list that SN uses which is added to regularly, but I haven't actually counted the number
[12:45:02] <chromas> It'd be nifty if, when somebody ~submits, exec used arthur to load the article for sites arthur supports
[12:44:24] <chromas> How many sites does it support?
[12:43:46] <janrinok> I think the queues are good, but I'm working on Arthur at the moment.
[12:43:21] <chromas> Ooh, there was a suggested poll that never ran. Guess I could enqueue that
[12:41:56] * chromas checks in on the queue
[12:40:54] <exec> <chromas> But the math doesn't check out for rectangular pizzas though
[12:40:51] <sedctl> <chromas> But the math doesn't check out for rectangular pizzas though
[12:40:51] <chromas> s/c//
[12:40:47] <chromas> But the match doesn't check out for rectangular pizzas though
[12:40:06] <chromas> Looks like one reason could be that its circumference is 3.14 times its diameter. Hmm.
[12:39:34] <janrinok> perhaps they don't know what a real pie is?
[12:39:06] <chromas> Seems to be a northeastern us thing I guess
[12:38:55] * chromas doesn't eithr, but some people on tv do
[12:38:26] <janrinok> only in the US - we certainly don't
[12:38:09] <chromas> Okay at the moment. Just deep in an investigation. Researching why people call pizzas "pies"
[12:37:18] <janrinok> chromas - how's things?
[12:02:30] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off to winders
[12:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> make sure and get that source format RFC finished up with a week to spare
[12:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, screw it. ima play vidya till 8 or 9 then start on some code.
[11:56:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> that could be fun, yeah. they're far more annoying to commies than taxes, so maybe we could get us some smaller government.
[11:56:07] <chromas> [Stallman enters the channel]
[11:55:56] <chromas> Oh wait, that's printers
[11:55:46] <chromas> No no, see, the $20 was just to plug the nozzle in and get a starter gallon, but you can buy more with this DLC
[11:55:23] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[11:54:58] <chromas> We should replace all taxes with government-offered microtransactions
[11:54:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, those are unethical. it's only ethical if you take huge amounts of other people's money involuntarily. small, voluntary amounts are evil.
[11:54:16] * chromas wouldn't mind free shekels
[11:54:02] <chromas> oh, the other ubi
[11:53:38] <chromas> microtransactions?
[11:53:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> we need UBI.
[11:52:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i forgot how annoying working for a living was.
[11:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, i wanna play vidya but i got money-making work what needs doing.
[11:50:29] <upstart> k
[11:50:29] <chromas> 🌮disable sedbot
[11:50:09] <chromas> [a lawsuit approaches]
[11:49:57] <upstart> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clicker Heroes Maker Compares New Lawsuit From “Patent Troll” To Extortion - http://sylnt.us - trolls-я-us
[11:49:57] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clicker Heroes Maker Compares New Lawsuit From “Patent Troll” To Extortion - http://sylnt.us - trolls-я-us
[11:49:57] <chromas> Bender: s/r/я/9
[11:49:10] <chromas> Np backwards R?
[11:47:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clicker Heroes Maker Compares New Lawsuit From “Patent Troll” To Extortion - http://sylnt.us - trolls-r-us
[11:39:06] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 575
[11:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[11:37:51] <chromas> I think I'll add javascript support as well
[11:37:42] <chromas> tama brings up a good point: "We are indeed in the era of quantum browsing, where the page has been parsed and not parsed at the same time. Thanks, javascript."
[11:33:26] <chromas> When do you turn thirteen?
[11:33:08] * TheMightyBuzzard is old enough he doesn't need no steenkenk classes
[11:31:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but if he wants to sit through a half hour class he can drive mine. for that matter so can the girl child. there's no age limit on boat driving in TN.
[11:31:51] <upstart> k
[11:31:51] <chromas> 🌮enable sedbot
[11:31:12] <chromas> Does he get his own boat too?
[11:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, TR's boy child turns 13 this year. a very important milestone in a man's life, having to have your own fishing license.
[11:28:42] <exec> <chromas> More standards are always better. xkcd.png
[11:28:39] <sedctl> <chromas> More standards are always better. xkcd.png
[11:28:39] <chromas> s/s/d/4
[11:28:31] <chromas> More standards are always better. xkcs.png
[11:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> 13mm then, roger.
[11:28:19] <chromas> Both!
[11:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> metric or sae socket?
[11:27:50] <chromas> Linux is old hat. This is gonna be a socket-activated systemd unit
[11:26:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, making source code immutable sounds a whole lot like compiling it. why not save the bother of compiling it and just write a linux kernel module to support your format as an executable format like a.out or elf?
[11:26:40] <chromas> So like, if you want to assign something to a variable, you'd use an arrow (→) but for larger data, you make it bigger (🡆)
[11:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm....
[11:25:10] <chromas> In my language, unicode support is mandatory because it uses emojis for operators
[11:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> bonus points for every time you implement a standard in the format that conflicts with a supported language
[11:23:42] <chromas> And yet, you can modify your program at runtime just by having it append moar xml to itself while it's running. Neat, huh!
[11:23:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> everything in rust is immutable by default, yep.
[11:23:05] <chromas> Strings in Rust are immutable by default right? Well, let's take that further by making source code immutable!
[11:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, definitely.
[11:21:45] <chromas> Ooh, maybe I should write up a spec and submit it for april 1
[11:21:09] <chromas> However, for optimal version management, you would ideally give each segment (or line as they used to say in Þe dayes of olde) its own id
[11:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> especially for string literals
[11:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should make them illegal then
[11:19:36] <chromas> Well with my xml-based 'streaming' document format, you don't even need newlines!
[11:18:51] * TheMightyBuzzard tells chromas where he can put his newlines
[11:16:51] <chromas> It doesn't care about whitespace but it's kind of anal about where you put your newlines
[11:16:23] <chromas> e
[11:16:22] <chromas> Go lang sort of forces the K&R styl
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[11:13:17] <chromas> On the other hand, I just created a translingual programming design
[11:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell them you identify as a transexual black lesbian.
[11:12:42] <chromas> I'm probably not diverse enough to relate to mozilla though
[11:12:13] * boru chuckles.
[11:12:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you should join the rust community. troll them with idiotic rfcs. they'll probably implement half of them.
[11:12:00] <boru> I've given up coffee, alas.
[11:11:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3983
[11:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:11:02] <chromas> Damn. If I was smart enough to write a compiler, I'd totally implement something that stupid just for the fun of it
[11:10:18] <boru> You've thought of everything.
[11:10:04] <chromas> Okay, but see, it's got versioning built in, so instead of editing the line, I just create a new line that the compiler uses to revise the old one
[11:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't you hear? prototypes take too much extra effort for agile devops, so they've been done away with.
[11:08:38] <boru> Fix your code!
[11:08:33] <boru> Also, invalid prototype for main!
[11:08:22] <boru> I think java is in there as well.
[11:07:56] <Bender> karma - pythonxmlc: 1
[11:07:56] <chromas> PythonXmlC++
[11:06:54] <boru> I don't even know what language that is supposed to be!
[11:06:50] <chromas> dang, can't even finish typing out my shitpost
[11:06:35] <chromas> ah oh, Unexpected
[11:05:26] <chromas> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><sourcecode class="program"><line>import std.io;</line><line>void main() println("hello world");</line></program></xml>
[11:04:34] <boru> Tabs allow you to set your own tabstop!
[11:04:20] <boru> Also known as a tab.
[11:04:19] <SoyCow6505> The more the better
[11:03:24] <chromas> Also store source code in xml
[11:03:11] <chromas> Indent my line but don't store the indent in the file
[11:02:55] <chromas> Actually, why have any at all when the editor can just indent according to syntax or whatever rules I set up?
[11:02:05] <boru> More line noise to prevent someone quoting me.
[11:01:37] <boru> In a standard way, to boot!
[11:01:32] <boru> Why just have tabs, when you can have both?
[11:01:25] * chromas programs with graphical gooey interfaces in visual basic
[11:01:21] <boru> KNF or go home, imho.
[11:00:50] <chromas> Ya know, nothin' wrong with proportional fonts for programming, especially if you use tab indents
[10:59:48] <chromas> lol
[10:59:04] <boru> Prime trolling there.
[10:58:57] <boru> I just saw your poll on the site.
[10:58:52] * boru chuckles.
[10:52:09] <chromas> Well I was just thinking of 'ripping off' /. but we could totally us another geo-cities theme :D
[10:50:58] <boru> Or vice versa.
[10:50:53] <boru> Cyan on magenta, for extra eye torture.
[10:46:06] <chromas> We should have a cyan theme for April 1
[10:38:48] <SoyCow6505> Ta, muchly.
[10:36:20] <chromas> for us either, and our team worked non-stop for days to get Slashdot back online. With our new infrastructure in place, we will be dedicating a lot of time and resources this year to improving Slashdot."
[10:36:20] <chromas> "Obviously Slashdot has had some issues the past couple days. For those wondering, we inherited an aging hardware setup in the acquisition that was located physically far away from us. We made a big investment in a new hardware set up, and ran into sizable issues including a massive DDOS during the migration process. Going forward we expect much better uptime. If we inconvenienced anyone, we're sorry. If it's any consolation, it wasn't fun
[10:35:33] <upstart> ^ 03Slashdot Outage Update - Slashdot
[10:35:33] <chromas> https://meta.slashdot.org
[10:29:02] <boru> ...
[09:56:15] <SoyCow6505> Hi peoples. Sorry if off-topic or already discussed but does anyone know what's happening with the green site? I struggle to get response from their site and when it does respond I'm seeing 4 day old stories at the top of the list...
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[09:26:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ethereum Fixes Serious “Eclipse” Flaw - http://sylnt.us - eclipsing-security
[07:26:44] -!- mode/#soylent [+v janrinok] by Aphrodite
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[07:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 3D-Written Model To Provide Better Understanding of Cancer Spread - http://sylnt.us - 3d-jet-printing
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[05:55:11] <Ethanol-fueled> 'Sup.
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[05:07:25] <bacteria> but in reality is just some kind of meta-copypasta typo or something like that
[05:07:19] <bacteria> may be one day they built windows (they do every day i hear) and it was there, and everyone was like, mmm ok, ppl upstairs know what they are doing, i guess
[05:07:13] <bacteria> still, i wonder, is that the work of a single person or a committee? or a self-emergent feature?
[05:07:09] <bacteria> these are all rhetorical questions of course
[05:07:06] <bacteria> what is the point of that extra step, why not just start with the password prompt screen
[05:07:00] <bacteria> why do you have to press ctrl-alt-del to log into w$
[05:06:55] <bacteria> here's another great question for the ages
[04:45:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Is How Many Friends You Need to Be Happy - http://sylnt.us - I'm-still-a-few-short
[04:33:55] <chromas> Windows 95
[03:27:56] <bacteria> how did it come to this??????
[03:27:55] <bacteria> a standard keyboard has a windows logo on it
[02:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> just in time too. ima go grab a smoke and head to bed.
[02:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you have made my evening.
[02:53:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> lake poop?
[02:34:00] <upstart> ^ 03Lake Poopó - Wikipedia
[02:33:59] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Lake Poopó was a large saline lake located in a shallow depression in the Altiplano Mountains in Oruro Department, Bolivia, at an altitude of approximately 3,700 m (12,100 ft). Because the lake was long and wide (90 by 32 km, 56 by 20 mi), it made up the eastern half of the department, known as a mining region in ..."
[02:33:59] <Bytram> #g lake Poopó
[02:25:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Regulator Finds That Neonicotinoid Pesticides Threaten Bees - http://sylnt.us - time-to-act
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[00:18:15] <upstart> ^ 03Have you ever seen an angry unicorn ? - YouTube
[00:18:14] <pinchy> https://www.youtube.com
[00:14:32] <Sulla> Looks like a good batch, hopefully after clean resets they all work good. They seem almost new/unused
[00:14:07] <Sulla> Got the BlackBerry q10s in today
[00:12:01] <chromas> Well Google keeps firing people for calling out their racism, so maybe it's all projection
[00:11:18] <Sulla> Maybe the west coast/alaska is different in that way
[00:11:08] <Sulla> The problem I have with the priviledge thing is that I havent lived anywhere or met anyone (even racists) who would turn down a qualified/skilled/hard worker because of their sex or color of their skin
[00:08:50] <Sulla> Overlord season 2 is terrible
[00:08:02] <chromas> /g
[00:07:43] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Concludes that priviLege, not Talent or Smarts, Results in Wealth - http://sylnt.us - just-my-luck
[00:07:43] <chromas> Bender: s/(L|l)uck/privi\1ege/
[00:07:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i'm hungry. gonna go get food started.
[00:06:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Concludes that Luck, not Talent or Smarts, Results in Wealth - http://sylnt.us - just-my-luck
[00:02:01] <MrPlow> Roll the dice. #roll 3d6 throws=6
[00:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #roll 1dpi
[00:01:33] <MrPlow> pass 1: 10
[00:01:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #roll 1d12
[00:01:28] <Sulla> He seems to always hit though
[00:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> none. which is why he's still level 1
[00:00:58] <Sulla> What bonus does mrplow get to his attacks
[00:00:53] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[00:00:53] <chromas> sedctl:
[00:00:44] <upstart> ^ 03sed, a stream editor
[00:00:43] <Sulla> What was the result of the d12 roll? Did you do max damage
[00:00:43] <MrPlow> https://www.gnu.org - "sed is a stream editor. A stream editor is used to perform basic text transformations on an input stream (a file or input from a pipeline). While in some ways similar to an editor which permits scripted edits (such as ed ), sed works by making only one pass over the input(s), and is consequently more efficient. But it is sed 's ..."
[00:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g sed
[00:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sed
[00:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> where's my sedbot?
[00:00:27] <Sulla> Whats this s/ stuff
[00:00:20] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a d12
[00:00:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[00:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, s/ discipline//