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[00:13:16] <Bytram> #g IPO Input Process Output
[00:13:17] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The input–process–output (IPO) model, or input-process-output pattern, is a widely used approach in systems analysis and software engineering for describing the structure of an information processing program or other process. Many introductory programming and systems analysis texts introduce this as the most basic ..."
[00:13:18] <systemd-blockchaind> ^ 03IPO model - Wikipedia
[00:14:11] <Bytram> chatty bunch here...
[00:14:16] * Bytram reads scroolback
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[00:23:03] <Bytram> ahh, finally caught up with current time.
[00:23:31] * Bytram notices the time and decides to prepare dinner... biab
[00:23:38] <mechanicjay> I remember, back in the day, it was pretty much impossible to keep up with the scrollback.
[00:25:01] <Bytram> yep, kinda amazed me, too.
[00:25:14] <Bytram> at least, in this channel it was unpossible
[00:26:11] * Bytram experiments with detached channel window in hexchat and is pleasantly surprised at how amazingly useful it is... and how much more I'd like a larger than 1920x1200 display
[00:27:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Countries Most Likely to Survive Climate Change in One Infographic - http://sylnt.us - climate-refugees
[00:38:41] <Bytram> #g FPD2485W
[00:38:42] <MrPlow> https://www.cnet.com - "View full Gateway FPD2485W LCD Monitor specs on CNET."
[00:38:43] <systemd-blockchaind> ^ 03Gateway FPD2485W LCD Monitor Specs - CNET
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[01:06:49] <mrpg> My monitor turns on but there's no image, I have to wait like 20 minutes. Any ideas why?
[01:08:38] <chromas> Sounds like normal monitors
[01:09:04] <chromas> Maaybe not quite that long, but they usually take way longer than necessary
[01:10:01] <mrpg> This syncmaster 933 worked ok, It started to do this a few weeks ago.
[01:10:50] <chromas> Maybe the video connector connection is slightly off and it only starts working once the monitor heats up and it flexes a little.
[01:11:03] <chromas> What kinda connection?
[01:11:52] <mrpg> vga
[01:12:09] <mrpg> I wanted to try a diferent cable but I dont have another.
[01:13:05] <mrpg> What I do have is a CRT!!! Bu tI like this LCD.
[01:13:59] <chromas> CRTs had great color though
[01:14:13] * chromas tacks a 0 onto mrpg's electric bill
[01:14:24] <mrpg> Yes, good lightning from any angle.
[01:15:17] * chromas wonders how many more decades 'til LED displays go 'mainstream'. Or quantum dots
[01:35:50] <Sulla> Hard to find 40s gun price info
[01:37:57] <mrpg> Now more difficult https://www.cbsnews.com
[01:37:57] <upstart> ^ 03Parkland, Florida, school shooting: Suspect Nikolas Jacob Cruz charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder - live updating coverage - CBS News
[01:46:29] <Sulla> Well hes fucked
[01:47:13] <Sulla> Kind of sad the cops didnt just kill him, but whatever
[01:47:27] <Sulla> They need to quietly throw the kid in prison for life
[01:47:39] <chromas> it's cuz he be white
[01:47:41] <Sulla> And not do the whole attention bullshit that will spawn more repeats
[01:48:20] <Sulla> Spent four hours playing with the gun data since 1880
[01:48:26] <Sulla> Interesting stuff
[01:48:45] <Sulla> Was pretty proud of my post on death monkeys journal about it
[01:49:00] <Sulla> After clocktower there were aftershocks of wannabes
[01:49:06] <Sulla> Same with columbine
[01:49:16] <Sulla> Then we entered into this weird world of kids going mental everywhere
[01:49:58] * chromas passes the SSRIs
[01:54:12] <Bytram> mrpg: no idea about your monitor... only thing that comes to mind is maybe a bad connection at one end of the cable or the other... OR maybe something is a bit loose on the inside of the computer
[01:54:47] <mrpg> One end is a litle loose, I turned it the other way, still the same thing.
[01:54:53] <Bytram> last thought, maybe a voltage sag? too much stuff at the end of a long (or under gauge) extension cord?
[01:54:57] <Bytram> k
[01:55:56] <mrpg> it is connected to a ups. UPS looks more professional than ups. Looks like ops.
[01:55:56] * chromas gets into the Bytram problem solving queue
[01:56:14] <Bytram> 14 gauge wire is fine for short distances and light loads, but better off with 12 gauge on a power strip, and keep the cable length short, and don't have too much stuff plugged into the same circuit.
[01:56:22] * Bytram waves at chromas
[01:56:46] <mrpg> cable - noted, next
[01:57:01] <Bytram> CRT is tired.
[01:57:27] <mrpg> No, the LCD is the one with the problem. I havnt used the CRT in 2 years.
[01:57:49] <Bytram> that is 'tech speak' for I know there's a buncha stuff inside a CRT tube that could go sideways, but I do not know exactly what would cause that symptom.
[01:57:53] <Bytram> oh.
[01:58:06] <Bytram> there's even MORE stuff in an LCD that could go sideways.
[01:58:35] <Bytram> do you have another display you could swap with yours to help isolate the problem?
[01:58:59] <Bytram> if you get the same problem with a different display, then it's prolly the cable or the computer / card.
[01:59:12] <Bytram> if no problem, then try swapping out the cable... etc.
[01:59:37] <Bytram> oh, just noticed. yes a UPS is a VERY good idea.
[01:59:41] <chromas> I notice LCD displays are dumb. Turn it on, backlight turns on, displays logo, backlight turns off, backlight turns on, video
[02:00:07] <mrpg> Yes I have a CRT but it has the video cable attached so I cant see if it is the cable.
[02:00:16] <Bytram> allinone--
[02:00:16] <Bender> karma - allinone: -1
[02:00:23] <mrpg> I cant use the same cable for both.
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[02:00:48] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:00:49] <mrpg> I'll try the CRT tomorrow.
[02:01:09] <Bytram> sounds like you covered all the obvious bases
[02:01:35] <chromas> Do you have a multimeter? You could check continuity on all the cable pins while flexing the cable
[02:01:35] <Bytram> don't know if that helps, but at least there is nothing obvious that comes to mind that would explain it... so don't feel bad if it is still bugging ya.
[02:01:41] <mrpg> my kingdom for a cable!
[02:01:49] <Bytram> neigh!
[02:02:08] <mrpg> I hads a multimeter, I think I dont have it anymore, good call I'll look for it.
[02:02:47] <Bytram> at least with an LCD, I don't *think* there are dangerous voltages to worry about like in a cCRT.
[02:02:56] <Bytram> s/cC/C/
[02:02:56] <sedctl> <Bytram> at least with an LCD, I don't *think* there are dangerous voltages to worry about like in a CRT.
[02:02:58] <exec> <Bytram> at least with an LCD, I don't *think* there are dangerous voltages to worry about like in a CRT.
[02:03:02] <Bytram> lol
[02:03:05] <Bytram> ~sed off
[02:03:07] <exec> sed disabled for 10#soylent
[02:03:12] <Bytram> while I'm at it...
[02:03:18] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[02:03:19] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[02:03:28] <chromas> Older ones used fluorescent tubes for backlighting but I think they're all LED now.
[02:03:38] <Bytram> good... no chiming in from exec on that, at least
[02:03:41] <Bytram> chromas: true that
[02:04:43] <mrpg> Bitcoin: Big in investing, but still lousy for buying a sandwich - https://www.cnet.com
[02:04:44] <upstart> ^ 03Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies still aren't used much as currencies - CNET
[02:05:14] <Bytram> upstart: /still aren't used/aren't used as much/
[02:05:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt popeye theme
[02:05:17] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:05:18] <upstart> ^ 03Popeye The Sailor Man Intro Theme Song - Evergreen Cartoon Series of 1990s - YouTube
[02:05:37] <chromas> So what you're saying is cryptocurrencies need affirmative action
[02:05:41] <Bytram> ~sedon
[02:05:45] <Bytram> ~sed on
[02:05:46] <exec> sed enabled for 10#soylent
[02:05:48] <Bytram> upstart: /still aren't used/aren't used as much/
[02:05:57] <Bytram> nvm
[02:06:01] <mrpg> affirmative.
[02:06:05] * chromas tosses out an "s"
[02:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, obviously. the zeroes are being discriminated against in favor of the ones.
[02:06:26] <mrpg> because they are chubby.
[02:06:31] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: It's because you're fatshaming them
[02:06:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It Takes a Human to Screw Things Up Properly - http://sylnt.us - screw-you
[02:06:50] <Bytram> huh?
[02:07:05] <Bytram> #g "To err is human, but to really screw something up takes a computer"
[02:07:06] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[02:07:17] <Bytram> #g To err is human, but to really mess things up takes a computer
[02:07:18] <MrPlow> https://quoteinvestigator.com - "Dec 7, 2010 ... Dear Quote Investigator: I am reading your blog and that shows I am not a Luddite, but computers can be very exasperating. One of ... Like all good paragraphers, Bill Vaughan takes a whimsical view of his craft. ... I recall Paul Ehrlich saying: “To err is human but to really foul things up you need a computer.”."
[02:07:19] <upstart> ^ 03To Err is Human; To Really Foul Things Up Requires a Computer | Quote Investigator
[02:07:34] <Bytram> that's the one
[02:08:13] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[02:08:14] <upstart> ^ 03Oh sh-itcoin! Crypto-dosh swap-shop Coinbase empties punters' bank accounts • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:08:28] <mrpg> https://www.youtube.com
[02:08:29] <upstart> ^ 03Popeye - I'm Popeye the Sailor Man - Robin Williams Shelley - YouTube
[02:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrpg, just finished watching that
[02:09:00] <mrpg> what a coincidence.
[02:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> watched hook last night and remembered how much i dig robin williams movies
[02:10:38] <chromas> Is it also a coincidence that canned spinach looks just like old spinach?
[02:10:52] <Bytram> Good Morning... Never Never Land!!!!!!!
[02:11:34] <chromas> Kids in Vietnam also didn't grow up
[02:11:37] <chromas> morbid.jpg
[02:11:39] <chromas> :)
[02:11:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72 lost his crown. canned spinach is the butt.
[02:11:48] <Bytram> sad face
[02:11:55] <Bytram> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[02:11:55] <Bender> Added quote 858
[02:12:11] <chromas> Are there really that many grabs in here?
[02:12:23] <chromas> Did the db get fscked?
[02:12:26] <Bytram> !quote 833
[02:12:26] <Bender> Quote 833 - <AndyTheAbsurd> oh wait it's !grab isn't it. oh well, too late now.
[02:12:29] <chromas> !quote 632
[02:12:29] <Bender> Quote 632 - <SirFinkus> but nope, veto
[02:12:33] <chromas> !quote 451
[02:12:34] <Bender> Quote 451 - <arti> thank god you didn't go to that party
[02:12:40] <chromas> wao
[02:12:42] <Bytram> !quote chromas
[02:12:42] <Bender> Quote 111 - <chromas> I heard CentOS thrown around a lot. I believe it was NCommander's favorite
[02:12:46] <Bender> Also in quotes: 118, 124, 136, 141, 142, 143, 160, 168, 196, 197, 216, 237, 238, 239, 242, 269, 293, 297, 314, 315, 325, 326, 356, 358, 365, 378, 384, 394, 416, 428, 429, 439, 455, 472, 477, 487, 490, 495, 502, 525, 532, 541, 575, 578, 579, 589, 598, 610, 618, 622, 624, 625, 635, 654, 660, 662, 665, 670, 676, 680, 686, 688, 699, 707, 716, 725, 727, 732, 733, 735, 736, 738, - 1 more
[02:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, it just decided it would start being case sensitive on channel names after some python update or other.
[02:12:50] <Bytram> =)
[02:12:52] <chromas> !more
[02:12:52] <Bender> 751, 767, 768, 775, 781, 798, 799, 824, 830, 836, 840, 844, 847
[02:13:14] <Bytram> chromas: aren't YOU the popular/quotable one!?!!
[02:13:27] <chromas> I have a similar problem. My xmpp server can't authenticate with the db anymore after update
[02:13:38] * chromas blames python even though it's java
[02:14:00] * Bytram pictures someone trying to feed coffe to a snake
[02:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> python's always safe to blame. it almost certainly fouled something up somewhere along the way.
[02:14:19] <chromas> Don't step on snek
[02:14:42] <Bytram> is better to jump on it, instead?
[02:15:06] <Bytram> break time
[02:15:07] <mrpg> !quote 123
[02:15:07] <Bender> Quote 123 - <crutchy> yeah i've tried making eyes at aussie airport security but the most i got was an explosives scan
[02:15:17] <mrpg> !quote 321
[02:15:17] <Bender> Quote 321 - <TheMightyBuzzard> i got the loudest and hardest one i could find though
[02:15:24] <mrpg> wow
[02:15:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, hammer time
[02:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt hammer time
[02:15:32] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:15:33] <upstart> ^ 03MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This - YouTube
[02:16:53] <Bytram> ugh. barometer has dropped a full inch in the past 48-hours
[02:17:12] <chromas> Do your joints ache?
[02:17:19] <Bytram> oh, most definitely
[02:17:23] <chromas> …more than usual
[02:17:28] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[02:17:33] <Bytram> my muscles, too... maybe I need more... spinach?
[02:17:39] <Bytram> ;)
[02:17:48] <bacteria> elon musk must have the world's smallest member: https://apod.nasa.gov
[02:17:49] <upstart> ^ 03APOD: 2018 February 13 - Car Orbiting Earth
[02:17:51] <bacteria> please don't tell mr. usk i said that, he probably has assassins on retainer
[02:18:24] <bacteria> s/ usk/ musk/
[02:18:24] <sedctl> <bacteria> please don't tell mr. musk i said that, he probably has assassins on retainer
[02:18:24] <chromas> He doesn't need 'em. The collective internet will circlejerk you to death.
[02:18:27] <exec> <bacteria> please don't tell mr. musk i said that, he probably has assassins on retainer
[02:18:57] <mrpg> I live in the tropic, all days are the same, hot. I dont know the words snow, barometer, humidity. PEople are always complaining in the japan videos that I see, and in Europe.
[02:19:15] <mrpg> I had to google for "relative humidity" to learn about that.
[02:19:46] <mrpg> I walk 35 minutes to and from work daily, sun sun sun. stupid sun.
[02:19:57] <chromas> Do you have a parasol?
[02:20:02] <mrpg> Hopefully in 5 000 000 000 000 it'll explode. Serves good.
[02:20:15] <mrpg> No but I use sunblocker.
[02:20:24] <chromas> Get one. You can twirl it to look pretty.
[02:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. i can't remember the title of that animated mockery of sjws with numbers vid from half a year or so ago.
[02:20:53] <chromas> #ys windowlicker
[02:21:15] <mrpg> I like the transparent ones in Japan, I had one as a kid.
[02:21:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha, figures i'd find it soon as i say that
[02:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:21:38] <upstart> ^ 03How Binary Works - YouTube
[02:23:33] <mrpg> opera https://youtu.be
[02:23:34] <upstart> ^ 03pajaro loco AUDIO LATINO the barber of seville - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[02:23:42] <Bytram> well, I gots an early day ahead of me tomorrow... gonna call it quits soon
[02:23:49] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!!
[02:23:58] <chromas> ~g'night Bytram
[02:23:59] * exec democratically steals a cornhole of luck from Bytram
[02:24:07] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[02:24:09] * exec emphatically uninstalls a blerg of dank memes from chromas
[02:24:20] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:24:22] * exec irresponsibly terrorizes a staff of doobie snacks with TheMightyBuzzard
[02:24:22] <mrpg> bye!
[02:24:29] <Bytram> ~gnight mrpg
[02:24:30] * exec illegitimately duplicates a safespace of bacon for mrpg
[02:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[02:24:33] * exec inadequately impales a cloud of fresh-baked gender rolls on Bytram
[02:24:37] <Bytram> bacon++
[02:24:37] <Bender> karma - bacon: 333
[02:24:56] <mrpg> !quote 333
[02:24:56] <Bender> Quote 333 - <Ethanol-fueled_> Plus, she had my dad as a high-school teacher, so I was already in!
[02:25:01] <Bytram> exec: s/gender/ginger/
[02:25:01] <sedctl> <Bytram> <exec> inadequately impales a cloud of fresh-baked ginger rolls on Bytram
[02:25:05] <exec> <Bytram> <exec> inadequately impales a cloud of fresh-baked ginger rolls on Bytram
[02:25:22] <mrpg> It's late, bye all.
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[02:26:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, i feel better now
[02:30:12] <chromas> You can't go to sleep 'til you've watched all his videos
[02:35:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> all whose?
[02:35:22] <chromas> SyeTen
[02:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i already switched over to social distortion
[03:07:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, it's time for one episode of some anime or other then bed.
[03:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight idjits
[03:07:32] * exec single-handedly nudges a shoeful of herpes toward idjits
[03:07:48] <chromas> First they take my dank memes, then they give me herpes
[03:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[03:28:03] <Bender> Added quote 859
[03:31:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy shit, i got 90 comments on a journal entry.
[03:35:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Italian Anti-Corruption Authority (ANAC) Adopts Onion Services - http://sylnt.us - reason-for-being-an-AC
[03:48:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> boo-yah. i am tied for the most commented on journal entry in site history and i expect at least one or two more replies yet.
[03:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ari is in 2nd with https://soylentnews.org
[03:49:23] <upstart> ^ 03Journal of aristarchus (2645)
[03:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> or tied currently rather
[03:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> he has five of the top ten commented journal entries though. i only have one.
[03:51:32] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off to bed now for realz
[04:14:50] * chromas comments on aris' journal just to get him ahead
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[05:04:29] <Sulla> Kek
[05:04:35] <Sulla> Free arists winning journals!
[05:05:03] <chromas> We should give him an award
[05:05:12] <chromas> So he's got award-winning journalism
[05:05:21] <Sulla> Yes
[05:05:45] <Sulla> I have spent way too much time researching school shootings for the death monkey journal today
[05:06:17] * TheMightyBuzzard feels all the love in the room
[05:06:23] <chromas> So what's the verdict?
[05:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> guilty
[05:06:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick chromas
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[05:06:46] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[05:06:47] <chromas> I need a one or two sentence summary of your research so I can know what to think
[05:06:48] <chromas> :D
[05:07:35] <chromas> One day I will become staff so I can kick myself
[05:08:02] <Sulla> Just be like me
[05:08:09] <Sulla> I tell people irl im staff
[05:08:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> MrPlow used to let you but i didn't keep it when i moved him to C or rust
[05:08:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> or was it a local script?
[05:09:01] <chromas> It was definitely one or the other.
[05:10:00] <Sulla> Pretty much as far as I can tell is that people on prozac shouldnt have guns
[05:12:20] <chromas> My niece was on prozac for awhile. She started making friends so the doctor upped the dosage. Soon she was tearing grasshoppers apart and trying to jump off things
[05:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh screw that. shrinks getting to decide without oversight of any kind who gets to be armed and who doesn't?
[05:12:49] <Sulla> No I agree with you tmb
[05:12:51] <Sulla> F them
[05:13:07] <Sulla> But if I had a family member on prozac id be lockin up my guns
[05:13:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. a locked up gun is useless.
[05:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep it strapped to your hip as god intended
[05:14:28] <Sulla> Id carry but im not ready to get fired and sue my employer for firing me
[05:15:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like the bill i heard was floating around the TN statehouse a while back. you can put up a no firearms sign but you are completely responsible for the safety of everyone there if you do.
[05:15:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> as in legally liable
[05:16:27] <Sulla> That sounds like a good idea actually
[05:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Austria: The "Ashtray of Europe"? - http://sylnt.us - all-those-in-favour,-please-cough
[05:17:42] <chromas> I thought Syria was the ashtray of Europe
[05:18:09] <chromas> Or Europe was the ashtray of Syria
[05:18:28] <Sulla> I prefer the second
[05:20:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> syria's the asscrack of europe not the ashtray.
[05:20:43] <Sulla> Fuckin this common core math kek is getting my blood pressure up
[05:21:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> enhance your calm, john spartan
[05:21:10] <Sulla> If my kids dont get taught please excuse my dear aunt sally im gonna end up on the school board
[05:21:30] <chromas> What's that?
[05:21:47] <chromas> Oh, pemdas
[05:21:56] <chromas> I don't recall learning that in skool
[05:22:05] <Sulla> Its where a bunch of commies get together to decide on what marxist stuff your kids will be taught
[05:22:13] <chromas> But I may have dementia
[05:22:27] <chromas> oh I meant the dear aunt sally bit
[05:22:28] <Sulla> Removing "men" from "the axemen" and making valentines no longer a holiday because offends jehova witnesses
[05:22:30] <Sulla> Ah
[05:22:39] <Sulla> I figured but was already typing
[05:23:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, s'what you get for having kids. i got better sense than to bring any into this ate the fuck up world.
[05:23:33] <chromas> What will you do if your kids are taught they should take a back seat because they're white while the black kids get cupcakes and stuff?
[05:23:50] <Sulla> Homeschool
[05:24:12] <Sulla> Or private school
[05:24:22] <Sulla> Would suck but I can afford it mostly
[05:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> frankly, i think the feds need to get the fuck out of the education business.
[05:25:15] <Sulla> Yeah
[05:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> and every other business they're not told is theirs explicitly in the constitution.
[05:25:47] <Sulla> Sounds pretty terrorist, should probably report
[05:25:59] <Sulla> Next thing you will be telling us is you want a balanced budget
[05:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't bother. all vets are already on a watch list.
[05:27:17] * TheMightyBuzzard flips back to his anime
[05:28:01] <Sulla> Yeah I need to read me some adult mangas
[05:28:26] <Sulla> Wife told me to go read hentai and drink rye and stop grabbing her ass so she can do laundry
[05:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> not hentai tonight. catching up on back episodes of overlord.
[05:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should go help her. and grab her ass some more while you're helping.
[05:32:55] <Sulla> Rye is rye, figure ill bug her once ive enjoyed some
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[06:03:01] * chromas waits 45 minutes for windows to boot
[06:17:04] <Subsentient> chromas: Eww, Windows.
[06:19:38] <chromas> Yeah, but games
[06:19:50] * chromas downloads the mgs beta
[06:55:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Milky Way Ties with Neighbor in Galactic Arms Race - http://sylnt.us - twins
[06:59:49] <chromas> nougat neighbors
[07:25:03] <bacteria> what? can you please repeat everything since 18:18 est? we weren't paying attention
[07:25:22] <bacteria> we would scroll, but it takes joules
[07:26:36] <chromas> Valve is stupid. The Downloads section in steam doesn't show download percentage. I have to go to the library to see how much is downloaded.
[07:26:56] <chromas> Also the Half Life 3 thing
[08:00:28] <bacteria> brb, irssi bump
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[08:02:15] <bacterium> i am so alone
[08:02:26] <bacterium> and that despite all the sex
[08:02:40] bacterium is now known as bacteria
[08:02:52] <bacteria> j/k, mitosis ftw!!!!!!
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[08:26:16] <boru> ...
[08:26:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MeltdownPrime and SpectrePrime Attacks Likely Mitigated by Existing Patches - http://sylnt.us - joke's-on-you-I-only-have-one-processor
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[09:32:22] <chromas> My nephew's doing homework and has this problem:
[09:32:22] <chromas> Gravity
[09:32:22] <chromas> 1+1=2
[09:32:22] <chromas> Evolution
[09:32:22] <chromas> "It asks which is a theory"
[09:33:15] <chromas> It's not like a christian school or anything. is this what common core looks like?
[09:56:12] <FatPhil> anyone got any SQL smarts?
[09:56:54] <chromas> I typed some sql once, but I'm far from competent
[09:56:58] <FatPhil> As a hard scientist, I'd say that gravity's less well understood than evolution
[09:57:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PCI Council and X9 Committee to Combine PIN Security Standards - http://sylnt.us - cooperation++
[09:57:27] <FatPhil> evolution is like the laws of thermodynamics, it's a statistical thing
[09:57:47] <FatPhil> evolution is as true as "balls roll down hills".
[09:58:16] <chromas> by the transitive property, evolution = gravity
[09:58:42] * chromas doesn't even know if he used that term correctly
[09:58:49] <FatPhil> If all you mean by "gravity" is "where do balls on hills go", then yes.
[09:59:33] <FatPhil> However, gravity also has to explain black holes and galaxy rotation curves, and fit in with quantum field theory.
[10:00:01] <FatPhil> which it clearly doesn't. It's very much a work in progress theory.
[10:01:23] <FatPhil> Anyway, regarding SQL, I'm trying to come up with an elegant way of saying "this calendar quarter" in a query.
[10:02:01] <chromas> Does it need to be portable sql or can you use non-standard extensions?
[10:02:34] <FatPhil> ... sum(case when "table.date is the same calendar quarter as today" then table.value else 0) ... group by table.field
[10:02:48] <bacteria> perhaps gravity has evolved over time
[10:02:50] <FatPhil> only needs to work in mysql
[10:03:08] <FatPhil> bacteria: all scientific theories have evolved over time, fortunately.
[10:03:19] <bacteria> hi fatphil, u <3able h8r
[10:03:27] <chromas> Black Holes: Gravity Evolved
[10:03:42] <FatPhil> the scientific method is the fitness function.
[10:03:57] <bacteria> oh noes i means gravity as an interaction is itself an emergent property of evolving agents or some such
[10:04:45] <FatPhil> well, we're into metaphysics there - why? dunno, just does!
[10:05:24] <bacteria> oh noes this is not meta, this is testable, at least by means of seeing gravity change over time
[10:05:43] <bacteria> if we are lucky, of course
[10:06:01] <bacteria> what is luck? this should be in the common core
[10:06:34] <FatPhil> ah, so gravity is the expression of an underlying property which we don't yet know the behaviour of.
[10:06:59] <bacteria> yeah, we totally think that's at least a possibility
[10:07:21] <FatPhil> I don't have a problem with our "constant"s being non-constant, this is quite similar to that.
[10:07:39] <FatPhil> the speed of light pisses me off, it's so arbitrary.
[10:07:55] <bacteria> haha ikr talk aboutn cosmological "c"
[10:09:11] <bacteria> y? c=1, problem solved
[10:09:20] <FatPhil> I like the fact that some people have played around not just with the concept of negative mass, but also with *imaginary* mass.
[10:09:21] <bacteria> plank units
[10:09:34] <bacteria> like how imaginary
[10:09:57] <FatPhil> imaginary mass objects can happily travel faster than light without violating SR.
[10:10:19] <FatPhil> No idea how the laws of gravity would work though.
[10:10:42] <bacteria> there's something to ftl
[10:11:19] <FatPhil> there would have to be imaginary forces, so imaginary acceleration. You'd need complex space dimensions, and therfore complex time dimensions.
[10:11:46] <bacteria> we thinks the simplest explanation of entanglement is wormholes, meaning spacetime is not just flat or cuved, but completely fubar, and may be densely so, in a topological sense
[10:12:17] <FatPhil> And as long as we never encounter anything with complex mass or complex charge, we real-number flatlanders would never notice that our real-numbers view was not the real story.
[10:13:18] <bacteria> yah the maths we use really paint a lot of things into a corner
[10:13:44] <FatPhil> quantum mechanics fucks things up. Was it Feynman who said "if you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics"
[10:14:16] <bacteria> yup, and i think he exploded into glitter right after that
[10:14:19] <bacteria> we
[10:14:21] <bacteria> we think
[10:14:48] <bacteria> sorry, i have an issue with this whole plurality things
[10:15:28] <bacteria> sometimes we think i are the same individuals
[10:16:01] <chromas> select extract()
[10:16:01] <bacteria> most of us have forgotten who split from who
[10:16:47] * chromas tested on a table
[10:16:48] <chromas> select extract(quarter from date) from datetest
[10:17:34] <FatPhil> oooh, never encountered extract before
[10:17:42] <FatPhil> manpage ahoy...
[10:17:47] <FatPhil> chromas++
[10:17:47] <Bender> karma - chromas: 206
[10:17:59] <chromas> M'either. You can get all kinds of values from it.
[10:18:08] <chromas> https://www.postgresql.org
[10:18:09] <upstart> ^ 03PostgreSQL: Documentation: 10: 9.9. Date/Time Functions and Operators
[10:20:12] * chromas inappropriately touches one bacterium, asks if it's single
[10:21:36] <FatPhil> I've got a mate who knows not much about sql writing a new query each quarter, with hard-coded ranges in, trying to do a year-on-year comparison (so he generates 8 columns with 8 different case when ~...date in range..~
[10:22:08] <FatPhil> I'm trying to write one which will work for ever!
[10:27:16] * chromas wonders how turing complete sql is
[10:27:55] <chromas> Do you think SQL could be used to create a text editor? or an init replacement?
[10:28:29] <FatPhil> the language doesn't even have a stack, let alone addressible memory, and not even a stack is enough to be turing complete IIRC.
[10:28:41] <chromas> Oooo! What if I set init=/bin/postgresql and used tables for init scripts?
[10:28:55] <chromas> Well it's got functions
[10:28:56] <FatPhil> having said that, you can create tables to store your data
[10:29:05] <chromas> You can store functions in your tables
[10:29:21] <chromas> and #triggers
[10:29:28] <FatPhil> you can probably do a cellular automaton with **iggers
[10:31:57] <chromas> heh, there's even a sleep function
[10:34:10] <FatPhil> hmmm, you seem to be way beyond me in sql copage - I can't get this to work "SELECT ... as 'foo 1', ... as 'foo 2', 'foo 1' + 'foo 2' as 'sum of the foos', ...
[10:39:48] <chromas> Not working for me
[10:39:51] * chromas plays with it
[10:56:24] <FatPhil> I can just have unnecessary duplication to work around that.
[10:57:25] <FatPhil> can I do ... sum(...) as concat("Total ", year(table.date)), ... ?
[11:20:18] <FatPhil> looks like it's impoissible
[11:21:01] <FatPhil> so the backreferencing issue becomes the main one
[11:21:18] <FatPhil> This query's as clunky as fuck, I'm no sql programmer
[11:21:28] <FatPhil> ug have club, ug do query
[11:21:52] <FatPhil> query tables, query tables more until tables break
[11:22:12] <FatPhil> ug win, database was weak
[11:22:51] <chromas> Are you trying to create a table where each row shows the numbers + running total?
[11:23:29] <chromas> (or, create a query where the resulting table is that)
[11:24:29] <FatPhil> When I run the query in 2018, I want the columns to be Q1-2017, Q1-2018, ... Q4-2016, Q4-2017, where each colum is the sum of things that have the relevant date
[11:25:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Impact of Data Breaches on Corporations' Stock Values... None That Matters? - http://sylnt.us - ups-and-downs
[11:30:45] <FatPhil> i can't get ``... ORDER BY 'This Year' '' to work either. I have to use ... ORDER BY 10 ("This Year" is the name I've given the 10th column)
[11:36:16] <chromas> Try double quotes
[11:37:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:37:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3950
[11:38:21] <Bytram> maybe create a stored procedure which creates a temporary table, populate it with date ranges for each of the quarters, and then use the indexes into THAT to order/sum/whatevah your data?
[11:39:59] <Bytram> insert into temp_table values (1,20180101,20180331), (2,20180401,20180630),(3,20180701,20180930),(4,201801001,20181231)... ??
[11:41:05] * Bytram is undercaffienated and can't bring himself to create valid syntax for inserting stuff into tables, sorry.
[11:42:01] <chromas> Also, views are pretty nifty for breaking up your queries. It's like modules for sql
[11:42:11] <chromas> See, even sql has modules before c/c++
[11:42:22] <chromas> What a world, what a world
[11:42:26] * chromas melts
[11:45:39] <chromas> Has the Wizard of Oz been rebooted yet?
[11:45:52] <Bytram> #g the wiz
[11:45:52] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(film) - "The Wiz is a 1978 American musical adventure film produced by Universal Pictures and Motown Productions, and released by Universal Pictures on October 24, 1978. An urban reimagining of L. Frank Baum's classic 1900 children's novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz featuring an entirely African-American cast, The Wiz was ..."
[11:45:53] <upstart> ^ 03The Wiz ( - Wikipedia
[11:46:51] <chromas> That's a weird title output
[11:46:53] <chromas> #smake upstart
[11:46:53] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with a drop of snot in your twat
[11:57:05] <Bytram> btw, the example of quarter enumeration makes an assumption as to when a quarter starts/ends. E.g. Assumes a *calendar* quarter, not a *fiscal* quarter.
[11:58:34] <chromas> Good point. You might need to make your own quarter() function
[11:59:12] <Bytram> the GNU toolchain (e.g. gawk and IIRC, date) have parameters which can select day of week, and week number, depending on some parameters. May be unique to their implementation.
[12:00:18] * chromas invents SQshelL
[12:00:27] <Bytram> #g united states civil war years
[12:00:28] <MrPlow> https://www.civilwar.org - "Jefferson Davis, a former U.S. Senator and Secretary of War, was appointed President of the Confederate States of America. The United States thought that the southern states were wrong to leave the Union and initiated a war that raged across the country for four years. In 1865, the United States defeated the Confederate ..."
[12:00:31] <upstart> ^ 0310 Facts: What Everyone Should Know About the Civil War | Civil War Trust
[12:17:34] <Bytram> time for me to get ready for work... laters
[12:34:12] <Bytram> off to work I go.. have a great day everyone!
[12:47:47] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:47:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3951
[13:06:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peter Thiel Migrating From Silicon Valley to Los Angeles - http://sylnt.us - don't-let-the-door-hit-ya
[13:57:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:57:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3952
[14:35:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Suggests Attacking Motives of Scientists is Just as Damaging as Attacking the Science Itself - http://sylnt.us - character-assassination-for-dummies
[15:18:04] <pinchy> omg the civil war, ppl did things before i was even born! amazing!
[15:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> well they at least fucked, obviously.
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[15:44:56] * pinchy *shudders*
[15:45:35] <pinchy> note to self: dont goto another brazilian steak house for another 5 years
[15:45:44] <pinchy> OD on meat
[15:50:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, i had a pound and a half of 2+" thick ribeye last night myself.
[16:17:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - dtrace for Linux; Oracle Does the Right Thing - http://sylnt.us - GPL-FTW
[16:21:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[16:21:37] <upstart> ^ 03Journal of The Mighty Buzzard (18)
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[17:31:46] <pinchy> so the longer the journal entry the more responses u get?
[17:32:22] <pinchy> i ought to do a cut n paste a long alt-right post
[17:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> a good long ctrl-left post would probably get you more. they're a bigger actual danger to society because some major corporations actually take them seriously.
[17:48:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kepler's K2 Mission Going Strong With Another 95 New Exoplanets Confirmed - http://sylnt.us - not-the-mountain
[18:37:47] <bacteria> remember the mormons? they believe something pretty weird about planets i think, like they will need to colonize them all in teh afterlife or whatnot
[18:38:32] <bacteria> some sort of planet pokemon with jesus charging in the front in a tesla roadster
[18:39:26] <bacteria> also did you know their major prophet's name is moroni?
[18:39:30] <bacteria> #g moroni
[18:39:31] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(Book_of_Mormon_prophet) - "Moroni according to the Book of Mormon, was the last Nephite prophet, historian, and military commander who lived in the Americas in the late fourth and early fifth centuries. He is later known as the Angel Moroni, who presented the golden plates to Joseph Smith, who said he translated the plates upon which the Book of ..."
[18:39:32] <upstart> ^ 03Moroni ( - Wikipedia
[18:40:16] <bacteria> you just can't make up this shit
[18:40:39] <bacteria> unless your name is joseph smith hahahahahahaha!!!!
[18:42:31] <bacteria> prohet, historian, military commander... a perfect fit for the pence administration
[18:44:37] <bacteria> you who cracks me up????
[18:44:55] <bacteria> the soylent trump, he's hilarious :)
[18:45:38] <bacteria> 6614++
[18:45:38] <Bender> karma - 6614: 1
[18:45:46] <bacteria> sriracha++
[18:45:47] <Bender> karma - sriracha: 2
[18:50:20] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[18:50:21] <upstart> ^ 03Banned Mormon Cartoon - EXTENDED VERSION - YouTube
[18:51:07] <cmn32480> 8008135++
[18:51:07] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 55
[18:51:15] <chromas> The narrator's voice is sooo dramatic
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[18:59:46] <Sulla> TheMightyBuzzard: spent more time looking up random stats to prove your winning
[19:00:26] <chromas> Rabble rabble rabble!
[19:03:46] <mechanicjay> Holy Crap! https://motherboard.vice.com
[19:03:47] <upstart> ^ 03FCC Boss Ajit Pai’s Own Agency Is Investigating Him For Potential Corruption - Motherboard
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[20:46:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dark Matter Generates Tachyons in SN1987A - http://sylnt.us - catchy-name
[20:51:20] <bacteria> ^^^ pics or it didn't happen
[20:59:30] * cmn32480 waits for Goatse to make his appearance
[22:26:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Positive Result in Mice as Alzheimer's Drug Trials Fail and Regulatory Barriers Are Rolled Back - http://sylnt.us
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[23:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, wut?
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[23:29:58] <Deucalion> Ellenor - you around?
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[23:53:49] <Ellenor> yes, why?
[23:56:03] <Deucalion> Just checking :P
[23:57:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major New IOS Bug Can Crash iPhones and Disable Access to Apps and IMessages - http://sylnt.us - here-we-go-again
[23:59:21] <Ellenor> fuck?