#soylent | Logs for 2018-02-02
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[00:07:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - eBay Drops PayPal As First Choice For Payments - http://sylnt.us - done-with-the-pay(pal)ola
[00:24:29] <Teckla> Has anyone here read Artemis yet?
[00:48:13] <Sulla> Author?
[00:48:47] <Sulla> Andy weir?
[00:51:21] <Bytram> #g UHD monitor
[00:51:21] <MrPlow> https://www.bestbuy.com - "Shop at Best Buy for 4K ultra HD monitors. Experience four times the picture resolution of full HD with a UHD monitor."
[00:51:34] <Bytram> #g resolution UHD
[00:51:34] <MrPlow> https://www.cnet.com - "Jan 25, 2016 ... Is 4K twice is good as 2K? Is it different from Ultra HD? Is 1080p 1K? What do all these random numbers mean?"
[00:51:35] <upstart> ^ 03TV resolution confusion: 1080p, 2K, UHD, 4K, 8K, and what they all mean - CNET
[00:51:51] <Bytram> #g resolution UHD 3840
[00:51:52] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "4K UHD (2160p) has a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 lines (8.3 megapixels, aspect ratio 16:9) and is one of the two resolutions of ultra high definition television targeted towards consumer television, the other being 8K UHD which is 7680 pixels × 4320 lines (33.2 megapixels). 4K UHD has twice the horizontal and vertical ..."
[00:51:53] <upstart> ^ 034K resolution - Wikipedia
[00:51:55] <Teckla> Sulla: Yes
[00:52:09] <Teckla> Sulla: That is: Yes, Artemis by Andy Weir
[00:52:29] <chromas> Why is it that for HD, they use the vertical pixel count, but for 4K etc they use horizontal? Enquiring minds want to know!
[00:55:03] <mechanicjay> Because 4000 is waaaaay bigger than 1080.
[00:55:17] <Bytram> because, marketing and 4K sounds like moah than 2K
[00:55:18] <chromas> Well so is 1920
[00:55:32] <Bytram> mechanicjay: hiya!
[00:55:40] <chromas> They could call is "2K class"
[00:55:49] * mechanicjay shrugs and goes back to staring at a 4:3 CRT.
[00:55:55] <mechanicjay> Hey Bytram
[00:56:02] <Bytram> how ya doin?
[00:56:04] <chromas> At least CRTs had good color and viewing angle
[00:56:37] * Bytram remembers when the first flat-screen CRTs came out -- looked concave at first!
[00:57:04] <chromas> Those were great
[00:58:04] * Bytram once had THREE 20-inch viewsonic monitors that he ran at 1600x1200
[00:58:23] <Bytram> did those ever waft some heat into the room
[01:04:38] <Bytram> .op
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[01:06:06] <Bytram> .deop
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[01:14:55] <Bytram> break time
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[01:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Not Just Zika: Other Mosquito-Borne Viruses May Cause Birth Defects - http://sylnt.us - issues-that-bug-people
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[02:32:37] <Bytram> #g alice in wonderland
[02:32:37] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is an 1865 novel written by English author Charles Lutwidge Dodgson under the pseudonym Lewis Carroll. It tells of a girl named Alice falling through a rabbit hole into a fantasy world populated by peculiar, anthropomorphic creatures. The tale plays with logic, giving the story lasting ..."
[02:32:38] <upstart> ^ 03Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - Wikipedia
[02:33:28] <Bytram> #g Alice's Adventures in Wonderland "drink this"
[02:33:29] <MrPlow> http://tvtropes.org - "A description of tropes appearing in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. A parade of the surreal, with all the logic of a dream — and invoking the …"
[02:33:29] <upstart> ^ 03Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Literature) - TV Tropes ( http://tvtropes.org )
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[03:09:20] <Sulla> #g flamebait
[03:09:20] <MrPlow> https://www.urbandictionary.com - "1) Flame bait is a message posted to a public Internet discussion group, such as a forum, newsgroup or mailing list, with the intent of provoking an angry response (a \"flame\") or argument over a topic the \"troll\" (original poster provoking angry response) often has no real interest in, and finds humour, or entertainment in ..."
[03:09:22] <upstart> ^ 03Urban Dictionary: flamebait
[03:15:19] <chromas> And when you really, really enjoy it, you flamebate
[03:16:52] <chromas> SN needs a +0, wat mod
[03:16:53] <Bytram> chromas: s/ [^ ]*/flambe'/
[03:16:53] <upstart> <chromas> SNflambe' a +0, wat mod
[03:17:06] * Bytram was just a moment too slow
[03:17:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Patents A Wristband That Can Track Workers' Movement - http://sylnt.us - not-creepy-at-all
[03:17:48] <Bytram> put 10 of 'em on a dog's tail
[03:18:37] <chromas> I thought that's what Fitbit was for.
[03:18:55] <chromas> So I can graph my strokes-per-minute.
[03:19:21] <Bytram> chromas: s/min.*e/second/
[03:19:22] <upstart> <chromas> So I can graph my strokes-per-second.
[03:19:53] <Bytram> chromas: btw, have you been practicing reviewing and posting stories on dev?
[03:20:42] <chromas> Not lately
[03:20:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:21:24] <Bytram> I have a full day tomorrow and plan to do testing on sat/sun, but remind meon saturday (or one of the other editors on friday) to see if they can put up a couple stories for you to play with.
[03:21:32] <Bytram> s/meon/me on/
[03:21:32] <upstart> <Bytram> I have a full day tomorrow and plan to do testing on sat/sun, but remind me on saturday (or one of the other editors on friday) to see if they can put up a couple stories for you to play with.
[03:21:47] <Bytram> not enough hours in one day
[03:22:52] <Bytram> break time
[03:27:21] * chromas abuses the Author field
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[04:46:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JEDEC Publishes UFS 3.0 - http://sylnt.us - faster-selfies
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[06:18:14] <Sulla> Anything interesting going on?
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[06:27:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazingly, SpaceX Fails To Expend Its Rocket - http://sylnt.us - renew-reuse-recycle
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[07:55:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deep Brain Stimulation Could Treat Alzheimer's Disease - http://sylnt.us - there's-hope-for-the-graybeards
[09:26:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Reducing Year 2038 Problems in curl - http://sylnt.us - I-don't-wget-it
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[11:06:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anti-Missile Missile Misses Again, US Military Keeping Quiet Regarding Test - http://sylnt.us - 1-out-of-3-isn't-so-good
[11:08:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:08:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3914
[11:16:32] <chromas> We're still doing anti-missile missiles? What happened to the lazors?
[11:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> too many sharks wanting them for free. damned welfare state.
[11:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. i'm bored. time to check the fishing conditions today.
[11:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> pressure's dropping and it's barely gonna break freezing. not exactly ideal even in a boat.
[12:27:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> well if we ever get the anti-missile missiles working, someone's just going to invent anti-anti-missile missiles.
[12:28:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...in fact I should probably go patent the idea right now so that I can claim royalties when someone does. Probably only last a year or two once the anti-missile missiles are working, though.
[12:36:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google and 3M Join the Universal Stylus Initiative - http://sylnt.us - mightier-than-the-sword
[12:38:28] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:38:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3915
[12:38:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> Universal stylus you say. Interesting.
[12:43:58] * AndyTheAbsurd tries to decide between loading a 15K line JS library and writing his own JS time functions.
[12:47:22] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: FYI and FWIW, latest release of Pale Moon made a change to granularity:
[12:47:25] <Bytram> "Changed the performance timer resolution once more to a granularity of 1 ms, after evaluating more potential ways of abusing Spectre.
[12:47:28] <Bytram> This takes the most cautious approach possible lacking more information (because apparently NDAs have been signed over this between mainstream players), follows Safari's lead, and should make it not just infeasible but downright impossible to use these timers for nefarious purposes in this context."
[12:47:35] <Bytram> taken from: http://www.palemoon.org
[12:47:36] <upstart> ^ 03Pale Moon - Release Notes
[12:53:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, I saw that. Really should upgrade but haven't wanted to shut down my browser processes just yet.
[12:54:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:58:37] <Bytram> time to get ready for work...
[12:58:38] <Bytram> laters
[13:04:16] <chromas> Don't reinvent the wheel; use a framework that does.
[13:05:00] <chromas> You load up that 30MB JavaScript right now, mister!
[14:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First IllustrisTNG Universe Simulation Results Published - http://sylnt.us - approaching-42
[15:36:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Europa Landers Could be in Danger of Sinking Into a Porous Surface - http://sylnt.us - 'All-these-worlds-are-yours,-except-Europa.-Attempt-no-landing-there."
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[18:21:47] <Sulla> Memo released
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[18:35:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - India's Farmed Chickens Dosed With World's Strongest Antibiotics - http://sylnt.us - chicken-not-so-little
[18:44:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just read the memo
[18:45:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> basically is says "we're pissed that information that was paid for was used to get a FISA warrant" and "we hate that people have political opinions (especially ones that don't match our own)"
[18:45:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> so...my reaction is "meh" but it will probably the entire internet to explode in a rage.
[19:05:31] <Sulla> I found it interesting that the only reason the fisa warrents were granted were because of a dossier that comey thought was fake
[19:06:54] <Sulla> Im sure page had a sign of relief that the fbi would not have been able to wire tap him if it werent for the dossier
[19:17:18] <boru> What's this, now?
[19:20:38] <Sulla> Congressman Nunes memo on alledged fisa abuses
[19:23:12] <boru> I've got zero context on this. Pardon my ignorance.
[19:23:22] <boru> Who's he, what's fisa, what abuses?
[19:24:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> https://en.wikipedia.org
[19:24:59] <upstart> ^ 03Devin Nunes - Wikipedia
[19:26:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> FISA = Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which basically created a court for deciding if US agencies tasked with spying on foreign powers get to do wiretaps inside the US
[19:26:50] <Sulla> I dont have the link to the doc on my phone
[19:27:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's here: https://lawfareblog.com
[19:27:08] <upstart> ^ 03Document: Nunes Memo - Lawfare
[19:30:34] <boru> From a cursory read, I don't don't quite understand the implications here.
[19:31:12] <boru> The democratic party had a foreign surveilance body fund surveilance on a US citizen -- is this the bones of it?
[19:32:37] <boru> Domestic forieng surveilance body, I guess.
[19:32:52] <boru> Feh, modulo correct typing.
[19:36:35] <Sulla> I think it is more a problem for steele than anyone else
[19:37:10] <Sulla> Fbi/doj rubber stamped stuff that Nunes feels they should have caught
[19:37:34] <Sulla> McCabe must have felt the memo made him look bad because he took all his leave and retired
[19:38:39] <Sulla> I expect the dnc/rnc to try as much shit as they can to get elected. Skum does what skum does, but people like comey and the various doj people should have been more attentive
[19:39:01] <Sulla> Mccabe said the fisas would not have been granted but for the steele dossier
[19:39:24] <Sulla> Comey said steele dossier was salacious/whatever yet still signed off on the fisas
[19:40:25] <Sulla> Nothing wil change I think, but I would like it to be harder to get a fisa warrant against someone than a bad document and then citing a second source that the writer of the original document leaked illegally to have written
[19:43:02] <Sulla> "Salacious and unvarified" is enough to get the fbi director to sign off on a wire tap
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[19:43:35] <boru> Well, aren't bars for other agencies far lower than that there?
[19:44:12] <boru> Perhaps my sense of outrage has just been eroded by ever worse people in government.
[19:44:59] <Sulla> Gets worse every day
[19:45:25] <boru> Seems so, yes.
[19:45:53] <Sulla> And it wont get better. Every president demands more power for government, every congress/senate gives it to them.
[19:45:57] <Sulla> Repeat etc
[19:46:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> fbi is the chief law enforcement agency and the director is head cop. this basically says they dgaf about following the law for the sake of politics.
[19:46:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that this was ever a real question.
[19:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> the shit the government routinely does today makes watergate look like choir practice.
[19:56:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia to Allow ISS Tourists to Go on Spacewalks - http://sylnt.us - Yuri-would-be-proud
[19:58:53] <Sulla> Top story google news is mars rover selfies
[21:07:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California had 2,304 Self-Driving Car "Disengagements" Last Year - http://sylnt.us - what-could-possibly-go-rwong
[21:18:27] * cmn32480 wonders if the misspelling in the dpt line is on purpose...
[21:55:24] <Sulla> Just broke below 6% downmods
[22:09:29] <boru> I don't think I've ever been downmodded, but I tend to avoid political articles.
[22:09:57] <boru> And on an unrelated note, I think it is time for a glass of whiskey.
[22:12:04] <boru> whiskey++
[22:12:04] <Bender> karma - whiskey: 19
[22:13:49] <Sulla> Jelly, I keep wanting to go buy some whiskey but it requires going to the store
[22:14:12] <boru> Far to go?
[22:14:34] <boru> I've packed my pipe, as well. Thought it'd make a nice change from the Friday cigar.
[22:14:39] <Sulla> Just lazy. Only booze shops
[22:14:54] <Sulla> Within five miles have too small parking lots for my truck
[22:15:04] <boru> Ah. That's annoying.
[22:15:27] <boru> Those car parks designed for this cityboy hairdresser cars are silly.
[22:15:38] <Sulla> And are not in places I can park close either.
[22:15:40] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:15:54] <Sulla> Already smoked my friday cigars, probably smoke more tonight
[22:16:12] <boru> 5 miles is a fairly light march.
[22:16:39] <Sulla> Eh, rather not drink. Liver probably appreciates it
[22:17:07] <Sulla> I walk that far on my smokin jaunts but different direction
[22:21:57] <Sulla> What brand you drinking?
[22:22:25] <boru> I picked up a few bottles of Yellow Spot on my way back from home last week.
[22:23:21] <pinchy> https://youtu.be
[22:23:23] <upstart> ^ 03portable joystick system - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[22:23:42] <pinchy> its TMB and his new remote control combine
[22:23:45] <Sulla> Never had it but looks good
[22:24:15] <boru> It's a tasty drop. I don't buy it very often; normally go for Redbreast.
[22:38:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Shallowness of Google Translate - http://sylnt.us - c'est-vrai