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[00:26:48] <FatPhil> Sulla: tx for the poke. I popped my sleeping pill a while back, but can probably attack a couple to fill the gap.
[00:38:49] <FatPhil> takyon's live too, by the looks of it
[00:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your smartphone is making you stupid, antisocial and unhealthy - http://sylnt.us - short-attention-span
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[01:51:47] <chromas> YoUr SmArTpHoNe Is MaKiNg YoU sTuIpId, AnTiSoCiAl AnD uNhEaLtHy
[01:51:56] <chromas> spongebob.jpg
[02:27:05] <Sulla> Would like arist to post that race traitor story as a journal
[02:27:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient DNA Reveals a Completely Unknown Population of Native Americans - http://sylnt.us - Beringian-bridge
[02:27:25] <Sulla> I appreciate that it ruins his entire claim that all alt-rights are racist
[02:37:05] <Sulla> Also I want to level a complaint about using statements like "last thursday" in titles instead of using dates
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[03:47:46] <Sulla> When things like "x happened last thurs" are said its not necessarily in the same weekl that I read it
[04:08:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemists Outline How the Citric Acid Cycle Could Have Developed Before Life on Earth - http://sylnt.us - start-your-life-with-a-glass-of-fruit-juice
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[05:56:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When The Cash Register Doesn't Take Cash - http://sylnt.us - just-the-tip
[06:58:50] <chromas> Here's a classic https://www.youtube.com
[06:58:52] <upstart> ^ 03Anti-Gun Senator Kevin De Leon Makes a Fool of Himself - YouTube
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[07:36:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Academic Censorship on Trial in Wisconsin - http://sylnt.us - debating-whether-something's-debatable
[09:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GoPro Cuts 20% of its Workforce as It Exits the Drone Business - http://sylnt.us - see-ya
[10:46:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Barnes & Noble Reports Holiday Revenues Down - http://sylnt.us - pick-a-direction
[11:32:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://hackaday.com
[11:32:38] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:33:04] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:33:05] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[11:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:33:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3852
[11:48:53] <chromas> Need to start selling ARM laps and mini desktops
[11:49:13] <chromas> Though they'd have the same problem as Linux
[11:49:16] <chromas> No games
[11:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> says you. i would have answered sooner but i was playing vidya.
[11:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g endless sky
[11:51:18] <MrPlow> https://endless-sky.github.io - "Endless Sky is a 2D space trading and combat game similar to the classic Escape Velocity series. Explore other star systems. Earn money by trading, carrying passengers, or completing missions. Use your earnings to buy a better ship or to upgrade the weapons and engines on your current one. Blow up pirates. Take sides ..."
[11:51:20] <upstart> ^ 03Endless Sky, an open source space trading and combat game.
[11:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn. how did i miss reading about the KRACK attack on WPA2 last fall?
[11:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it has the best multiplayer system of any space game too. which is to say none.
[11:56:13] <chromas> 1998 graphics
[11:56:34] <chromas> Needs ascii interface
[11:57:40] <FatPhil> Sounds almost exactly the same as Elite. Never heard of Escape Velocity.
[11:59:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's more fun than i thought it would be. following the storyline is good for something besides just giving you something to do.
[12:00:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> only one faction's storyline is done right now though.
[12:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> whole lot of changes on git since the 0.9.8 release last year though.
[12:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:04:02] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 536
[12:16:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hybrid Octocopter at CES - http://sylnt.us - flying-spiders
[12:44:30] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:44:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3853
[12:44:34] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:44:36] * exec metrosexually reverse-engineers a cockle of 🍆 from TheMightyBuzzard
[12:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:44:42] * exec flatulantly enriches an F cup of excitement with cmn32480
[12:44:53] * TheMightyBuzzard has no idea
[12:44:59] <cmn32480> me neither
[12:45:00] <cmn32480> tie?
[12:45:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[12:45:11] * exec points at Bytram
[12:45:27] <cmn32480> FYI - letsencrypt will start issuing wildcards on February 27
[12:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd actually be a pita to use. we'd have to distribute one cert to multiple machines instead of having them worry about their own.
[12:48:37] <cmn32480> understandable
[12:48:52] * cmn32480 is currently looking for a wildcard, and that is how he came to know
[12:49:07] <cmn32480> GoDaddy wants about $1050...
[12:49:12] <cmn32480> I giggled and moved on
[12:58:23] <Ingar> TheMightyBuzzard: is that Endless Sky 1 or 2 ?
[13:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, there's an endless sky 2?
[13:01:33] <Ingar> yes, it was released not too long ago
[13:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> google's never heard of it
[13:02:17] <Ingar> ooh wait nvmd
[13:02:22] <Ingar> I was thinkging about endless space
[13:02:28] <Ingar> different game
[13:02:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh. roger.
[13:02:53] <Ingar> sry to have bothered you :)
[13:06:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no bother. i'm doing precisely squat for the next hour or two. then i'm going to write a rss->twitter script for SN against my better judgment.
[13:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[13:07:24] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 537
[13:08:42] <cmn32480> ewwww... you said twitter
[13:08:54] * cmn32480 notes taht TMB will probably vote for Oprah
[13:17:03] * TheMightyBuzzard is voting for Malcolm Reynolds
[13:42:15] <FatPhil> Aren't CAs dead yet? Haven't they been proved to fail to deliver almost every single thing that was promised?
[13:50:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> CAs are like democracy. the worst solution there is except for every alternative.
[13:55:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - John Young, a Pioneer Who Flew Four Different Spacecraft, Died This Past Friday at the Age of 87 - http://sylnt.us - RIP
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[14:36:47] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 11°C/52°F, 3:36 pm GMT+1, Tuesday, 9 January 2018
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[14:59:08] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 11°C/52°F, 3:59 pm GMT+1, Tuesday, 9 January 2018
[15:26:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rumors Swirl Around the Fate of the Secret "Zuma" Satellite Launched by SpaceX - http://sylnt.us - :-(
[15:57:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - History of the Age of Empires Series - http://sylnt.us - history-of-the-world
[16:04:06] <pinchy> im with her aka oprah, cant wait till the next election cycle
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[16:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> boy i can. i despair at seeing what the dems'll run against cheeto jesus. probably have hillary dye her hair blue and identify as a gay man.
[16:53:44] <pinchy> hmm cheeto jesus, finger licking good!
[16:59:11] <Sulla> If trump himself wasnt so polarizing (if he stopped twitter posting) I think he would have a hand down win
[16:59:38] <Sulla> My traditionally democratic family would be willing to vote for his relection (like reagan second term) if he would just stop talking
[17:00:32] <pinchy> itll be like 1984 all over again https://upload.wikimedia.org
[17:02:23] <Sulla> Trump lacks the likeability reagan had
[17:03:34] <pinchy> then get some more hollywood actors to run for pres
[17:04:13] <pinchy> get leonardo dicaprio to run, ppl would love it
[17:04:50] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: would it be possible to look at some CSS issues? I've mentioned this before: https://soylentnews.org
[17:04:51] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Academic Censorship on Trial in Wisconsin ( https://soylentnews.org )
[17:05:04] <FatPhil> Or who does the CSS?
[17:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Reagan had amiable down to a science.
[17:05:32] <FatPhil> The problem is that on my phone, I don't have a DOM/layout inspector, so can't accurately diagnose
[17:06:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, right this second? nope. i'm otherwise occupied with paying stuff. if you want to slap an issue up on github it'll get looked into though.
[17:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> as for who does what... right now i does the everything.
[17:08:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~seen paulej72
[17:08:06] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard, paulej72 was last seen in #Soylent 199 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes, 38 seconds ago with message: stuck the landing
[17:09:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hasn't been quite that long since he's popped in for a visit in another channel but it's probably accurate enough on when he last coded.
[17:09:34] <FatPhil> Actually, looks like I can reproduce it on PC, just by shrinking the window.
[17:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, cool
[17:11:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> either detail the issue or slap together a pull request and i'll handle whichever circumstance exists when i have time.
[17:17:24] <Sulla> FatPhil: my bad, I read your comment wrong
[17:18:44] <Sulla> No, I replied to the wrong comment
[17:25:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia Assembles Engineering Group for Lunar Activities and the Deep Space Gateway - http://sylnt.us - lunargate
[17:30:52] <Sulla> Orielly had part of oprah speech on nospin news. So full of shit
[17:31:02] <Sulla> Cant seriously say cnn isnt full of shit
[17:54:43] <cmn32480> I am not full of shit!
[17:54:57] <cmn32480> oh wait... I'm cmn.... not cnn
[17:55:10] * cmn32480 retracts his previous statement.
[18:03:41] <Sulla> Wow, 12 hours of negotiation between n and s korea
[18:16:12] <FatPhil> Sulla: Runaway?
[18:16:49] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: some kind of jibber-jabber added to the github, not sure if useful or unintelligible.
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[18:57:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Key CRISPR Gene Editing Methods Might Not Work for Most Humans - http://sylnt.us - patient-cured-to-death
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[19:29:33] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 7°C/45°F, 11:29 am PST, Tuesday, 9 January 2018
[19:58:30] <Sulla> FatPhil: going back and looking I cant recall who I was trying to respond to. Probably should get more sleep or coffee
[20:35:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pfizer Halts Research Into Alzheimer's and Parkinson's; Axovant Sciences Abandons Intepirdine - http://sylnt.us - soon-forgotten-after-a-shaky-start
[21:08:21] <cmn32480> Woop! all set for puppy pickup this weekedn!
[21:35:57] <cmn32480> #submit http://www.iflscience.com
[21:35:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[21:36:23] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[21:36:24] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[22:03:07] <chromas> What kind of puppy?
[22:06:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Personal Details from Aadhaar, India's Billion-Person Identity Database for $8 - http://sylnt.us - I'd-buy-that-for-a-dollar
[22:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Individual Personal Details From "Aadhaar", India's Billion-Person Identity Database, for $8 - http://sylnt.us - I'd-buy-that-for-a-dollar
[22:21:00] <boru> cigar++
[22:21:00] <Bender> karma - cigar: 14
[22:21:01] <boru> whiskey++
[22:21:01] <Bender> karma - whiskey: 18
[22:21:30] <boru> Long bloody day, today.
[22:22:35] <Sulla> Cigar++
[22:22:35] <Bender> karma - cigar: 15
[22:22:40] <Sulla> Fug yeah
[22:23:02] <boru> Partagas serie E no.2 here. What're you smoking?
[22:23:18] <Sulla> LFD Digger
[22:24:00] <Sulla> https://m.thompsoncigar.com
[22:24:01] <upstart> ^ 03La Flor Dominicana Double Ligero Digger Maduro Grande
[22:24:20] <boru> I do like maduro wrappers.
[22:24:20] <Sulla> What whiskey you drinking?
[22:24:28] <boru> I've got some Yellow Spot.
[22:24:41] <Sulla> The digger is my daily goto
[22:25:00] <boru> 60 ring?
[22:25:15] <boru> That's a jaw breaker!
[22:25:27] <boru> I tend to go for 48-56.
[22:25:41] <Sulla> My prefered form factor is the lancero
[22:25:55] <Sulla> But hard to find a lancero with a good draw anymore
[22:26:00] <boru> Aye, figurados are ideal.
[22:26:07] <Sulla> Warhead iii was fantastic but no longer produced
[22:26:29] <Sulla> Digger smokes like a smaller cigar when properly humidified
[22:26:33] <boru> I'm considering taking up the pipe, but I don't know if I'd find tobacco like a Cuban.
[22:26:55] <Sulla> Really not comparable, but pipes are a great addition to cigars
[22:26:56] <boru> I'm not familiar with them. We're a bit limited on this side of the pod.
[22:27:10] <boru> Yet Another Reason To Move To USA™
[22:27:13] <Sulla> I smoke a mix of lane 1q and cherry garcia like Eisenhower did
[22:27:24] <boru> I'd probably go for rope tobacco.
[22:27:34] <Sulla> Rope tobacco is a meme but awesome
[22:27:42] <boru> Ah, is it?
[22:27:54] <boru> I don't know pipe tobacco at all.
[22:27:59] <Sulla> Buddy bought some, was hard to get it into a condition for pipe smoking
[22:28:11] <boru> It takes a bit of work, from what I hear.
[22:28:33] <Sulla> I was never able to get it quite right
[22:29:30] <boru> I supppose part of the charm is the preparation.
[22:29:36] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:29:45] <boru> Something I like about a long smoke; an excuse to do SFA for an hour or two.
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[22:29:55] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:30:19] <Sulla> Typically my buddy and I smoke a cigar every other night
[22:30:38] <boru> So, does the USA still grant citizenship through marriage?
[22:30:45] <Sulla> I assume so
[22:31:26] <boru> I'll have to see about chatting up some birds if/when I get over there this year.
[22:31:31] <Sulla> No cubans here yet, but anymore I think dominicans and nicaraguans are just as good
[22:31:50] <boru> Really? They're legal there now, right?
[22:32:00] <Sulla> Yeah
[22:32:11] <boru> I can put you in touch with a fella I know up in Canada who buys them on the local reservation if you want a cheap box.
[22:32:12] <Sulla> But a whole lot of "why"
[22:32:40] <Sulla> Im good. I thought you could get them in stores in canada anyways?
[22:32:48] <boru> I'd recommend a box of H. Upmann Magnum 50, or 56.
[22:33:01] <boru> You can, but they don't have to pay tax on the reservation.
[22:33:13] <Sulla> I am planning on it next chance I get, based on a prior conversation
[22:33:36] <boru> They're probably my favourite smoke at the moment.
[22:34:02] <Sulla> I liked the "my father bijou" but the last shipment has been underwhelming
[22:34:15] <Sulla> Lots of hurricane issues
[22:34:17] <boru> In what way? Construction or taste?
[22:34:19] <boru> Ah.
[22:34:26] <Sulla> Taste
[22:34:37] <Sulla> Seems everyone is adding the mexican sungrown meme to their cigars
[22:34:52] <boru> Romeos used to be my goto smoke, but the wrap on them is truly awful in the last few years.
[22:34:57] <Sulla> Tastes like spicy green flavor, tastes like cheap pot smells
[22:35:02] <boru> Feh.
[22:35:04] <Sulla> Agreed
[22:35:39] <boru> I don't know whether it's less vegetable glue, or some new glue, but I find them unravelling very often.
[22:35:40] <Sulla> I have been doing a lot of padron lately
[22:36:05] <boru> Ah yeah, the lads back in the shop back home have been mentioning that they're smoking well recently.
[22:36:16] <Sulla> Never had a cigar fully unravel but I have had them split when they humidify like the british
[22:36:18] <boru> That and some Robina I don't recall the name of.
[22:36:37] <boru> Aye, cigar storage in the UK is ridiculous.
[22:36:48] <Sulla> You arent one of *those people* who expect a cigar to "rustle"
[22:36:59] <Sulla> Needs to be spanish way, have a little give
[22:37:00] <boru> Stored dry, and then put in high humidity before they ship them; soggy exterior, dry interior.
[22:37:08] <boru> Couldn't agree more.
[22:37:24] <boru> I tend to go north of 70% RH in my humidor.
[22:37:31] <Sulla> Same
[22:37:57] <Sulla> When and where will you be in the states?
[22:38:31] <boru> There's a shop here locally that stores cigars in the counter desk (no humidity) under those display lights.
[22:38:35] <boru> I'd say they're as dry as a bone.
[22:38:46] <Sulla> Ugh
[22:39:15] <boru> I'd like to get state side in time for tornado season (May), but it may be later in the year; I'll be headed to work's Boulder office.
[22:39:31] <Sulla> Nice
[22:39:48] <boru> I'll take a few weeks holidays and do some hiking, fishing and hunting.
[22:40:02] <boru> And storm chasing, hopefully.
[22:40:11] <boru> Boulder is where all of our weather nuts hang out.
[22:40:21] <Sulla> When you get in if you remember get me your address, the glut from the hurricanes should be over and I can hook you up
[22:40:49] <boru> Sound. That's a really nice gesture, and one I'll most certainly take you up on.
[22:41:01] <boru> I'll see about a few nice bottles of whiskey in exchange.
[22:41:12] <boru> Something you can't get over there.
[22:41:17] <Sulla> I have a buddy that usually sends me 6 or so a year so I do the same for him
[22:41:22] <Sulla> Cigars that is
[22:41:26] * boru nods.
[22:41:36] <Sulla> If you can try to find or buy online a warhead iii
[22:41:39] <Sulla> Some still exist
[22:41:49] <Sulla> Really fantastic
[22:42:00] <Sulla> Or at least are when correct humidification
[22:42:06] <Sulla> When I ran out I considered quitting
[22:42:17] * boru chuckles.
[22:43:32] <Sulla> What is the price per on a good cigar over there?
[22:44:06] <boru> Expensive.
[22:44:11] <boru> Let me get on xe.com
[22:44:45] <boru> A single magnum 56 would run you $56 sans discount.
[22:44:53] <boru> Almost $57
[22:44:57] <Sulla> Fug
[22:45:14] <boru> Aye, I get a hefty discount from the shops back in .ie, though.
[22:45:19] <boru> But it's still expensive.
[22:45:31] <boru> Small market, plus the tobacco import duty is bananas.
[22:46:03] <boru> The fellas up in Canada get them for $5-10 or something like that.
[22:46:26] <Sulla> Wow
[22:46:36] <Sulla> Was just trying to look up the rank
[22:48:12] <Sulla> A mainline padron is 6 bucks
[22:49:20] <boru> I'll give them a look when I'm back in .ie
[22:49:25] <Sulla> That island is in some serious need of liberation
[22:50:15] <Sulla> Alaskas duty on cigars was 50%
[22:50:25] <Sulla> Must be 5-600 there
[22:50:26] <boru> Well, hopefully we'll get the six counties back and Ireland will be united again, soon.
[22:50:43] <boru> Well, there's a lot of markup, as well.
[22:51:06] <boru> The high tobacco tax was levelled at cigarettes, but they couldn't single them out.
[22:51:41] <boru> Imported cigars are expensive throughout Europe, alas.
[22:52:16] <boru> Well, bar Eastern Europe, but I'm almost certain what I bought in Ukraine were knock-offs.
[22:53:26] <Sulla> Interesting, in US cigars and pipes are regulated different than cigarettes
[22:53:38] <boru> i.e. sensibly
[22:54:00] <Sulla> Obama tried to f it up
[22:54:18] <boru> No surprises there.
[22:54:23] <Sulla> Wanted new cigar variations to have a 5-10 year review proces
[22:54:30] <Sulla> And multi million research fees per
[22:56:25] * boru rolls eyes.
[23:00:17] <Sulla> My bad, only 100k per variation, my figures were estimated cost for example company
[23:03:04] <Sulla> https://www.themanual.com
[23:03:05] <upstart> ^ 03Cigar Aficionado's Picks for the Top 10 Cigars of 2017 | The Manual
[23:05:15] <boru> I'd give the Bolivar and Arturo Fuentes a shot.
[23:06:35] <Sulla> I smoke the olivia v often
[23:06:38] <Sulla> Pretty solid
[23:07:11] <Sulla> I kind of feel like AF is a meme brand, ill have to talk to the shop owner about this one
[23:09:10] <Sulla> Had one of those 1926 padrons in the cigar shop christmas gift bag, was pretty good
[23:09:42] <Sulla> Biggest complaint I have about them is how quick their prices go up
[23:09:57] <boru> Corner the market, I guess.
[23:42:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.hardocp.com
[23:42:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:43:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:43:23] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:48:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Koch-Backed Groups Urge Congress to Pass "Right to Try" Legislation - http://sylnt.us - give-it-a-try
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