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[23:45:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Hires Chip Designers From Apple and Qualcomm - http://sylnt.us - loadsajobs
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[22:37:47] <Bytram> if there were an alt-coin called buttcoin, would we track its price with a buttbot?
[22:26:45] * AndyTheAbsurd still doesn't understand why people think Bitcoin is worth *anything*.
[22:12:06] <chromas> Botcoin
[22:11:47] <chromas> Need a buttcoin bot
[22:10:28] <upstart> ^ 03Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Litecoin Price Charts - Coinbase
[22:10:28] <Bytram> https://www.coinbase.com
[22:06:37] <MrPlow> https://www.coindesk.com - "The CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index provides the latest and most accurate bitcoin price using an average from the world's leading exchanges."
[22:06:36] <Bytram> #g bitcoin current price
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[21:35:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BYTE Magazine Archive 1975 - 1995 - http://sylnt.us - when-computer-magazines-had-over-500-pages-and-we-read-them-FOR-the-ads
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[19:17:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Black Hole" of Accountability for Drug Trials Flouting FDA Oversight? - http://sylnt.us - thiel-touch
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[16:56:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Technique to Treat Hydrocephalus in Babies Developed in Uganda - http://sylnt.us - when-it-really-does-make-sense-to-"think-of-the-children"
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[14:27:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Key Lesson From The 1918 Flu Pandemic? 'Tell The Truth,' One Historian Says - http://sylnt.us - good
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[12:06:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia to Stop Writing Drivers for 32-Bit Systems (Eventually) - http://sylnt.us - remember-when-32-bits-was-an-UPgrade?
[09:47:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - VR-Goggles of Death! - http://sylnt.us - whoops-stumble-cut-death
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[07:27:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grsecurity's Defamation Suit Against Bruce Perens Dismissed - http://sylnt.us - opinions-are-like-noses:-everybody-has-one
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[05:16:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Does The Ice Sheet In East Antarctica Shrink Or Grow Under Warming Climate? - http://sylnt.us - maybe
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[03:14:04] <upstart> ^ 03The Navy Says "Fly Before Buy" When It Comes To Its New MQ-25 Drone Tanker - The Drive
[03:14:03] <cortex> unrelated http://www.thedrive.com
[03:05:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Unveils Entrant to the U.S. Navy's MQ-25 Drone Tanker Competition - http://sylnt.us - up-forever
[03:03:28] <cortex> ~~super~~
[03:03:03] <cortex> I promise it's super straight forward once you get that it's basically lisp but they name functions using ascii symbols that you have to memorize
[03:02:56] <upstart> ^ 03arvo/talk.hoon at master · urbit/arvo · GitHub
[03:02:55] <upstart> ^ 03A Very Gentle Hoon Intro (Urbit) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:02:54] <cortex> check out their programming language https://youtu.be here's a sample https://github.com
[02:59:10] <cortex> if someone hacks a bunch of urbits they can have a botnet. I'm not sure what would happen, I think the bug would get fixed and people's reputations would be reset. Hopefully urbit is virus free, they want to freeze the underlying software (their versioning system counts with integers down to zero). but realistically you can still DOS the underlying the computers on the real internet instead of through the urbit network
[02:54:32] <chromas> Does that help with zombie botnets?
[02:54:25] <cortex> theres also /48s that you can generate for your /32 and give them access to act on your behalf. So you can have 2^16 devices, that have access to the same data and identity.
[02:52:09] <cortex> the idea is that a scarce address space eliminates spamming and scamming. Scarcity means each address has a value, so if it costs like $10 for an identity to participate on the network, you better get more than $10 from tarnishing the reputation of the identities you used for the spam/scam/ddos etc.
[02:50:04] <chromas> Shouldn't everyone just be assigned /64s and use ipv6 addresses for identiy?
[02:50:03] <upstart> ^ 03Mars Talk Ep. 11: What is Urbit? (Panel Discussion) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[02:50:02] <cortex> https://youtu.be
[02:49:37] <chromas> I saw that. I thought ethereum was money too
[02:48:53] <cortex> "if bitcoin is money, ethereum is law, urbit is land"
[02:48:12] <cortex> there's 4 billion identities (2^32, like IPv4 addresses) and they'll give you one for free. There's also 2^64 identities that you can generate for free, but the idea is that eventually they will be useless because no one on the network will trust them.
[02:46:52] <cortex> but you don't have to buy in to use it
[02:46:37] <cortex> there is a hierarchical namespace that you can buy (think IP address blocks) to GetRichQuick(TM)(C)(BBQ)
[02:46:14] <chromas> Well that's not cool, man
[02:45:57] <cortex> it's not a blockchain thing.
[02:45:50] <chromas> Hm, I don't see anything about blockchains. Isn't blockchain the current hotness? Blockchain blockchain
[02:45:25] <upstart> ^ 03Urbit - A personal server
[02:45:23] <cortex> it's hella slow because this is the "assembly language" it executes. https://urbit.org
[02:44:12] <cortex> A personal unix server for normies, and also the reinvention/redefinition of all of computing from first principles. The ultimate yak shave.
[02:43:42] * chromas grinches
[02:43:41] <chromas> Requires third-party servers just to load the content
[02:42:44] <upstart> ^ 03Urbit - A personal server
[02:42:43] <cortex> do you guys have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour, https://urbit.org ?
[02:38:57] <chromas> ♪Christmas is coming; the queue is getting low♪
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[02:37:18] <Bytram> thanks!
[02:37:16] <Bytram> oh, and feel free to submit any of the preceding links as stories, too. We're running low and the holidays are coming.
[02:36:44] <Bytram> I'm supposed to be AT work in 10 hours, so I'm gonna hit the hay. Have a great night everyone!
[02:36:04] <Bytram> Well, I
[02:36:01] <Bytram> .
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[02:35:01] <MrPlow> https://news.bitcoin.com - "news.Bitcoin.com is the world's premier 24/7 news feed covering everything bitcoin-related."
[02:35:01] <Bytram> #g news.bitcoin.com
[02:34:57] <Bytram> #news.bitcoin.com
[02:34:22] <MrPlow> https://coinmarketcap.com - "Cryptocurrency market cap rankings, charts, and more."
[02:34:22] <Bytram> #g coinmarketcap
[02:34:05] <MrPlow> https://www.coindesk.com - "2017: Saluting the Non-Stop Price Drama That Was. Have a breaking story? Let us know here » · About · Press · Events · Editorial policy · Comments policy. Terms & conditions · Privacy policy · Jobs · Advertising · Newsletter · CoinDesk ..."
[02:34:04] <Bytram> #g coindesk
[02:33:53] <MrPlow> https://www.coinbase.com - "Coinbase is a secure online platform for buying, selling, transferring, and storing digital currency."
[02:33:52] <Bytram> #g coinbase
[02:33:40] <upstart> ^ 03Don't Buy Bitcoin. It's Going To Crash!!! - YouTube
[02:33:39] <cortex> this isn't new though https://www.youtube.com
[02:33:28] <Bytram> ahh.. there IS a cortex! kept seeing joined / parting messages!
[02:33:03] <cortex> Bytram: and it's back down (not as much though)
[02:33:01] <upstart> ^ 03The Richest Man in the Middle East May Pay $6 Billion For His Freedom | Fortune
[02:33:01] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:32:48] <chromas> herp
[02:32:44] <upstart> <chromas> -o parameter tor offensive
[02:32:44] <chromas> s/f/t/
[02:32:39] * chromas takes over charon's identify
[02:32:30] <upstart> ^ 03Bitcoin Bounces Back Over 40% After Huge Crash | Fortune
[02:32:30] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:32:15] <Bytram> chromas: : ahhh, got it.
[02:32:10] <Bytram> ugh
[02:30:35] <Bytram> charon: ahhh, got it.
[02:30:24] <Bytram> I suppose having a relative (parent?) who is a senator prolly does not hurt
[02:30:22] <chromas> -o parameter for offensive
[02:30:21] <cortex> I really hope her thing works out, that would be amazing. But I'd be equally impressed if they had absolutely nothing but still managed to get so much money.
[02:30:16] <chromas> Not sure. I was thinking of the fortune command line toy
[02:29:50] <Bytram> chromas: doncha mean something more like: O+ or AB- ??
[02:29:29] <cortex> fuck elizabeth holmes is such a baller. so well connected.
[02:29:24] <chromas> from the -o dept
[02:28:03] * Bytram clicks link to fortune story
[02:27:49] * Bytram thinks so they claimed... I wonder how much is still left after all the lawsuits?
[02:27:03] <MrPlow> https://www.theranos.com - "Theranos, Inc. is a consumer healthcare technology company. Theranos' clinical laboratory offers comprehensive laboratory tests from samples as small as a few drops of blood at unprecedented low prices. Founded in 2003 by Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos' mission is to make actionable health information accessible to ..."
[02:27:03] <Bytram> #g theranos
[02:26:58] <upstart> ^ 03Theranos Secures $100 Million in New Funding from Fortress Capital | Fortune
[02:26:58] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:26:56] <Bytram> .
[02:23:17] <Bytram> https://lite.cnn.io
[02:22:12] <Bytram> http://lite.cnn.io
[02:22:09] <Bytram> heh
[02:21:58] <Bytram> https://lite.cnn.io
[02:21:11] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org : Why Mental Health Is A Poor Measure Of A President
[02:21:10] <Bytram> https://text.npr.org
[02:16:16] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org
[02:16:14] <Bytram> https://text.npr.org
[02:16:08] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org
[02:16:08] <Bytram> http://text.npr.org
[02:15:59] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org ( http://text.npr.org )
[02:15:56] <Bytram> http://thin.npr.org
[02:14:04] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:13:39] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:13:38] <Bytram> #submit https://www.poynter.org form the we're-on-the-leading-edge dept
[02:12:33] <upstart> ^ 03Text-only news sites are slowly making a comeback. Here's why. | Poynter
[02:12:32] <Bytram> https://www.poynter.org
[02:12:18] <Bytram> Deucalion: have a good night's rest my friend -- well deserved, for sure!
[02:11:29] * Deucalion says "night all" - I was here physically but not really mentally today, will be on between xmas and new years, but Happy Seasonal Vestibules to all
[01:42:05] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(magazine) - "Byte was an American microcomputer magazine, influential in the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s because of its wide-ranging editorial coverage. Whereas many magazines from the mid-1980s had been dedicated to the MS-DOS (PC) platform or the Mac, mostly from a business or home user's perspective, Byte ..."
[01:42:05] <Bytram> #g BYTE magazine
[01:41:37] <Bytram> dang! I got it *right* ???!!!!!
[01:41:21] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Steve Ciarcia is an embedded control systems engineer. He became popular through his Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar column in BYTE magazine, and later through the Circuit Cellar magazine that he published. He is also the author of Build Your Own Z80 Computer, edited in 1981 and Take My Computer...Please!, published in ..."
[01:41:21] <Bytram> #g BYTE ciarcia's circuit cellar
[01:41:10] <Bytram> *BYTE
[01:41:07] <Bytram> hmmm, how did he spell his name? BYE maagazine ciarcia's circuit cellar
[01:39:34] <Bender> karma - takyon: 37
[01:39:34] <Bytram> takyon++ story submitter par excelant (or however that is supposed to be speeled)
[01:39:07] <Bytram> and that's another story out
[01:37:21] <Bytram> yays!
[01:36:51] * Bytram notices that mrpg just pushed out a story.
[01:36:16] <Bytram> was many years ago, but there are still random moments when there's a strong twinge
[01:36:12] <crutchy> thankfully
[01:36:09] <crutchy> i'm yet to face that
[01:35:58] <Bytram> that's two stories pushed out
[01:35:56] <crutchy> sorry to hear Bytram
[01:35:43] * Bytram is reminded of his own mom's passing, and how her b-day is shortly after x-mas
[01:35:08] * Bytram sent him an admin-to-user message expressing my condolences
[01:35:05] <crutchy> that would rek me
[01:34:58] <crutchy> poor bastard
[01:34:51] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:34:37] <crutchy> apparently e-f's mum died
[01:33:55] * Bytram wonders what tune that might be?
[01:33:41] * Bytram is still lacks some facility with all of the social graces/norms
[01:33:40] * Deucalion is aware this is becoming the mutual appreciation society :D Now I have that tune buzzing around my head ~~~grrrrr~~~~
[01:33:14] <Bytram> well, I appreciate the chiming in and support -- hate to bug him unnecessarily -- so your confirmation and affirmation meant a lot.
[01:32:48] <Deucalion> so thank youooooo!!
[01:32:30] <Deucalion> Bytram, I didn't really do anything on DMCA, the Angel took care of it - pretty much done between you and he
[01:32:23] * Bytram has variously tried:
[01:31:37] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 30
[01:31:37] <crutchy> Deucalion++
[01:31:22] <upstart> ^ 03CryptoCompare.com - Live cryptocurrency prices, trades, volumes, forums, wallets, mining equipment and reviews | CryptoCompare.com
[01:31:20] <Deucalion> https://www.cryptocompare.com
[01:31:18] <Bytram> *contrast
[01:31:15] <Bytram> I dunno, that is part of my reason for the suggestion... get all the links together so the comunity here can compare and contracst
[01:31:08] * crutchy wonders if there is a central bitcoin master server
[01:30:50] <crutchy> or it just takes them a while to sync
[01:30:38] <crutchy> is there a *current* price for bitcoin? seems like different exchanges give different prices
[01:29:36] <Bytram> don't see one atm... would also be nice if such a story listed sites where one can get current price for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, Monero, etc.
[01:27:42] <crutchy> (or 5)
[01:27:38] <crutchy> guessing there is already a story about the 25% bitcoin plunge?
[01:26:54] <crutchy> pre-emptive debugging
[01:26:43] <Bytram> Deucalion: btw, thanks for following up on the DMCA reg stuff
[01:26:25] <crutchy> if only i could fix impending bugs that way
[01:26:17] <Bytram> that's one story pushed out
[01:26:03] <Bytram> nah, just added one extra just in case he had left one open and pending... needed to make sure that everything was closed up -- just to be sure.
[01:25:07] <crutchy> poor Deucalion
[01:24:55] <crutchy> you syntax error'd him?
[01:24:47] <Bytram> and, yes, I have done a little lisp coding way back when
[01:24:34] * Bytram thinks there may have been an extra closing brace in there
[01:24:17] <crutchy> phew at least you didn't lisp him to death
[01:24:16] <Bytram> =)
[01:24:12] <Bytram> wait, what is 2.5k miles in metric?
[01:23:42] <Bytram> ugh! that is just plain insane!
[01:23:29] <Bytram> Deucalion: {{{{{{{{ Deucalion }}}}}}}}}
[01:23:26] <crutchy> i hope you're not walking 2500 miles
[01:22:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:22:50] <Deucalion> Walking dead... ~90hrs and 2.5k miles so far this week and another long one for Christmas Eve that'll add another ~400miles to my week - I'm utterly goosed
[01:22:34] <crutchy> should get the flamewarz going
[01:22:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:22:26] <crutchy> #submit https://www.computerworld.com.au
[01:22:23] <crutchy> hmm
[01:21:56] <crutchy> god save the queen!
[01:21:31] <Bytram> and how are you good sir?
[01:21:23] <Bytram> Deucalion: !!
[01:21:18] * Deucalion looks in
[01:21:11] <Bytram> ahhh, nod nod and egg nog
[01:21:01] <Bytram> 2017-12-24 @ 09:38 UTC is when last-scheduled story is due out
[01:20:40] <crutchy> its sort of a christmas thing
[01:20:35] <crutchy> its not really tech related though
[01:20:27] <crutchy> i heard of a nice story
[01:20:18] <Bytram> I'm sure it is!
[01:20:14] <crutchy> hmm
[01:20:11] <crutchy> oh
[01:20:05] <Bytram> Story queue runs dry in a few hours. :(
[01:19:59] <crutchy> if you eat them plain the smell is amazing
[01:19:54] <Bytram> oi.
[01:19:43] <Bytram> choc coating is a wonderful thing
[01:19:27] <crutchy> eating plain roasted beans is yummy too. but its not as socially accepted as eating them choc coated
[01:19:22] <Bytram> ;)
[01:19:13] * Bytram rummages around for a gas mask
[01:19:04] <crutchy> yeah i have a cup of coffee as well
[01:19:02] <Bytram> hmmm
[01:18:59] <Bytram> roasted beans
[01:18:48] * Bytram is more accustomed to their being ground and filtered w/ water
[01:18:39] <crutchy> oh they're roasted
[01:18:27] <Bytram> never heard of such a thing
[01:18:24] <crutchy> soooooo good
[01:18:16] <crutchy> uhuh
[01:18:09] <Bytram> you are eating the coffee *beans* ??
[01:18:01] <crutchy> i might need a medic soon
[01:17:54] <crutchy> i'm eating choc coated coffee beans
[01:17:49] <Bytram> or, maybe, push out a few stories, instead
[01:17:47] <crutchy> ah nice
[01:17:35] <Bytram> poking my nose in for a bit to see how things are going and maybe get up enough energy to do some testing on dev
[01:17:17] <upstart> ^ 03QDB: Quote Database
[01:17:16] <crutchy> http://www.bash.org\
[01:17:03] <crutchy> ahoy! Bytram good sir
[01:16:56] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[01:16:49] <Bytram> crutchy: !!
[01:16:24] <crutchy> bash.org is ebil
[01:16:13] <crutchy> <Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
[01:16:05] <crutchy> lmao
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