#Soylent | Logs for 2017-12-24
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[01:08:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Music Streaming Service Tidal Offers Free Trial as Financial Issues and YouTube Loom Large - http://sylnt.us - jango-raid
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[01:16:05] <crutchy> lmao
[01:16:13] <crutchy> <Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
[01:16:24] <crutchy> bash.org is ebil
[01:16:49] <Bytram> crutchy: !!
[01:16:56] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[01:17:03] <crutchy> ahoy! Bytram good sir
[01:17:16] <crutchy> http://www.bash.org\
[01:17:17] <upstart> ^ 03QDB: Quote Database
[01:17:35] <Bytram> poking my nose in for a bit to see how things are going and maybe get up enough energy to do some testing on dev
[01:17:47] <crutchy> ah nice
[01:17:49] <Bytram> or, maybe, push out a few stories, instead
[01:17:54] <crutchy> i'm eating choc coated coffee beans
[01:18:01] <crutchy> i might need a medic soon
[01:18:09] <Bytram> you are eating the coffee *beans* ??
[01:18:16] <crutchy> uhuh
[01:18:24] <crutchy> soooooo good
[01:18:27] <Bytram> never heard of such a thing
[01:18:39] <crutchy> oh they're roasted
[01:18:48] * Bytram is more accustomed to their being ground and filtered w/ water
[01:18:59] <Bytram> roasted beans
[01:19:02] <Bytram> hmmm
[01:19:04] <crutchy> yeah i have a cup of coffee as well
[01:19:13] * Bytram rummages around for a gas mask
[01:19:22] <Bytram> ;)
[01:19:27] <crutchy> eating plain roasted beans is yummy too. but its not as socially accepted as eating them choc coated
[01:19:43] <Bytram> choc coating is a wonderful thing
[01:19:54] <Bytram> oi.
[01:19:59] <crutchy> if you eat them plain the smell is amazing
[01:20:05] <Bytram> Story queue runs dry in a few hours. :(
[01:20:11] <crutchy> oh
[01:20:14] <crutchy> hmm
[01:20:18] <Bytram> I'm sure it is!
[01:20:27] <crutchy> i heard of a nice story
[01:20:35] <crutchy> its not really tech related though
[01:20:40] <crutchy> its sort of a christmas thing
[01:21:01] <Bytram> 2017-12-24 @ 09:38 UTC is when last-scheduled story is due out
[01:21:11] <Bytram> ahhh, nod nod and egg nog
[01:21:18] * Deucalion looks in
[01:21:23] <Bytram> Deucalion: !!
[01:21:31] <Bytram> and how are you good sir?
[01:21:56] <crutchy> god save the queen!
[01:22:23] <crutchy> hmm
[01:22:26] <crutchy> #submit https://www.computerworld.com.au
[01:22:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:22:34] <crutchy> should get the flamewarz going
[01:22:50] <Deucalion> Walking dead... ~90hrs and 2.5k miles so far this week and another long one for Christmas Eve that'll add another ~400miles to my week - I'm utterly goosed
[01:22:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:23:26] <crutchy> i hope you're not walking 2500 miles
[01:23:29] <Bytram> Deucalion: {{{{{{{{ Deucalion }}}}}}}}}
[01:23:42] <Bytram> ugh! that is just plain insane!
[01:24:12] <Bytram> wait, what is 2.5k miles in metric?
[01:24:16] <Bytram> =)
[01:24:17] <crutchy> phew at least you didn't lisp him to death
[01:24:34] * Bytram thinks there may have been an extra closing brace in there
[01:24:47] <Bytram> and, yes, I have done a little lisp coding way back when
[01:24:55] <crutchy> you syntax error'd him?
[01:25:07] <crutchy> poor Deucalion
[01:26:03] <Bytram> nah, just added one extra just in case he had left one open and pending... needed to make sure that everything was closed up -- just to be sure.
[01:26:17] <Bytram> that's one story pushed out
[01:26:25] <crutchy> if only i could fix impending bugs that way
[01:26:43] <Bytram> Deucalion: btw, thanks for following up on the DMCA reg stuff
[01:26:54] <crutchy> pre-emptive debugging
[01:27:38] <crutchy> guessing there is already a story about the 25% bitcoin plunge?
[01:27:42] <crutchy> (or 5)
[01:29:36] <Bytram> don't see one atm... would also be nice if such a story listed sites where one can get current price for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, Monero, etc.
[01:30:38] <crutchy> is there a *current* price for bitcoin? seems like different exchanges give different prices
[01:30:50] <crutchy> or it just takes them a while to sync
[01:31:08] * crutchy wonders if there is a central bitcoin master server
[01:31:15] <Bytram> I dunno, that is part of my reason for the suggestion... get all the links together so the comunity here can compare and contracst
[01:31:18] <Bytram> *contrast
[01:31:20] <Deucalion> https://www.cryptocompare.com
[01:31:22] <upstart> ^ 03CryptoCompare.com - Live cryptocurrency prices, trades, volumes, forums, wallets, mining equipment and reviews | CryptoCompare.com
[01:31:37] <crutchy> Deucalion++
[01:31:37] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 30
[01:32:23] * Bytram has variously tried:
[01:32:30] <Deucalion> Bytram, I didn't really do anything on DMCA, the Angel took care of it - pretty much done between you and he
[01:32:48] <Deucalion> so thank youooooo!!
[01:33:14] <Bytram> well, I appreciate the chiming in and support -- hate to bug him unnecessarily -- so your confirmation and affirmation meant a lot.
[01:33:40] * Deucalion is aware this is becoming the mutual appreciation society :D Now I have that tune buzzing around my head ~~~grrrrr~~~~
[01:33:41] * Bytram is still lacks some facility with all of the social graces/norms
[01:33:55] * Bytram wonders what tune that might be?
[01:34:37] <crutchy> apparently e-f's mum died
[01:34:51] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:34:58] <crutchy> poor bastard
[01:35:05] <crutchy> that would rek me
[01:35:08] * Bytram sent him an admin-to-user message expressing my condolences
[01:35:43] * Bytram is reminded of his own mom's passing, and how her b-day is shortly after x-mas
[01:35:56] <crutchy> sorry to hear Bytram
[01:35:58] <Bytram> that's two stories pushed out
[01:36:09] <crutchy> i'm yet to face that
[01:36:12] <crutchy> thankfully
[01:36:16] <Bytram> was many years ago, but there are still random moments when there's a strong twinge
[01:36:51] * Bytram notices that mrpg just pushed out a story.
[01:37:21] <Bytram> yays!
[01:39:07] <Bytram> and that's another story out
[01:39:34] <Bytram> takyon++ story submitter par excelant (or however that is supposed to be speeled)
[01:39:34] <Bender> karma - takyon: 37
[01:41:07] <Bytram> hmmm, how did he spell his name? BYE maagazine ciarcia's circuit cellar
[01:41:10] <Bytram> *BYTE
[01:41:21] <Bytram> #g BYTE ciarcia's circuit cellar
[01:41:21] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Steve Ciarcia is an embedded control systems engineer. He became popular through his Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar column in BYTE magazine, and later through the Circuit Cellar magazine that he published. He is also the author of Build Your Own Z80 Computer, edited in 1981 and Take My Computer...Please!, published in ..."
[01:41:37] <Bytram> dang! I got it *right* ???!!!!!
[01:42:05] <Bytram> #g BYTE magazine
[01:42:05] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org(magazine) - "Byte was an American microcomputer magazine, influential in the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s because of its wide-ranging editorial coverage. Whereas many magazines from the mid-1980s had been dedicated to the MS-DOS (PC) platform or the Mac, mostly from a business or home user's perspective, Byte ..."
[02:11:29] * Deucalion says "night all" - I was here physically but not really mentally today, will be on between xmas and new years, but Happy Seasonal Vestibules to all
[02:12:18] <Bytram> Deucalion: have a good night's rest my friend -- well deserved, for sure!
[02:12:32] <Bytram> https://www.poynter.org
[02:12:33] <upstart> ^ 03Text-only news sites are slowly making a comeback. Here's why. | Poynter
[02:13:38] <Bytram> #submit https://www.poynter.org form the we're-on-the-leading-edge dept
[02:13:39] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:14:04] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:15:56] <Bytram> http://thin.npr.org
[02:15:59] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org ( http://text.npr.org )
[02:16:08] <Bytram> http://text.npr.org
[02:16:08] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org
[02:16:14] <Bytram> https://text.npr.org
[02:16:16] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org
[02:21:10] <Bytram> https://text.npr.org
[02:21:11] <upstart> ^ 03Text-Only NPR.org : Why Mental Health Is A Poor Measure Of A President
[02:21:58] <Bytram> https://lite.cnn.io
[02:22:09] <Bytram> heh
[02:22:12] <Bytram> http://lite.cnn.io
[02:23:17] <Bytram> https://lite.cnn.io
[02:26:56] <Bytram> .
[02:26:58] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:26:58] <upstart> ^ 03Theranos Secures $100 Million in New Funding from Fortress Capital | Fortune
[02:27:03] <Bytram> #g theranos
[02:27:03] <MrPlow> https://www.theranos.com - "Theranos, Inc. is a consumer healthcare technology company. Theranos' clinical laboratory offers comprehensive laboratory tests from samples as small as a few drops of blood at unprecedented low prices. Founded in 2003 by Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos' mission is to make actionable health information accessible to ..."
[02:27:49] * Bytram thinks so they claimed... I wonder how much is still left after all the lawsuits?
[02:28:03] * Bytram clicks link to fortune story
[02:29:24] <chromas> from the -o dept
[02:29:29] <cortex> fuck elizabeth holmes is such a baller. so well connected.
[02:29:50] <Bytram> chromas: doncha mean something more like: O+ or AB- ??
[02:30:16] <chromas> Not sure. I was thinking of the fortune command line toy
[02:30:21] <cortex> I really hope her thing works out, that would be amazing. But I'd be equally impressed if they had absolutely nothing but still managed to get so much money.
[02:30:22] <chromas> -o parameter for offensive
[02:30:24] <Bytram> I suppose having a relative (parent?) who is a senator prolly does not hurt
[02:30:35] <Bytram> charon: ahhh, got it.
[02:32:10] <Bytram> ugh
[02:32:15] <Bytram> chromas: : ahhh, got it.
[02:32:30] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:32:30] <upstart> ^ 03Bitcoin Bounces Back Over 40% After Huge Crash | Fortune
[02:32:39] * chromas takes over charon's identify
[02:32:44] <chromas> s/f/t/
[02:32:44] <upstart> <chromas> -o parameter tor offensive
[02:32:48] <chromas> herp
[02:33:01] <Bytram> http://fortune.com
[02:33:01] <upstart> ^ 03The Richest Man in the Middle East May Pay $6 Billion For His Freedom | Fortune
[02:33:03] <cortex> Bytram: and it's back down (not as much though)
[02:33:28] <Bytram> ahh.. there IS a cortex! kept seeing joined / parting messages!
[02:33:39] <cortex> this isn't new though https://www.youtube.com
[02:33:40] <upstart> ^ 03Don't Buy Bitcoin. It's Going To Crash!!! - YouTube
[02:33:52] <Bytram> #g coinbase
[02:33:53] <MrPlow> https://www.coinbase.com - "Coinbase is a secure online platform for buying, selling, transferring, and storing digital currency."
[02:34:04] <Bytram> #g coindesk
[02:34:05] <MrPlow> https://www.coindesk.com - "2017: Saluting the Non-Stop Price Drama That Was. Have a breaking story? Let us know here » · About · Press · Events · Editorial policy · Comments policy. Terms & conditions · Privacy policy · Jobs · Advertising · Newsletter · CoinDesk ..."
[02:34:22] <Bytram> #g coinmarketcap
[02:34:22] <MrPlow> https://coinmarketcap.com - "Cryptocurrency market cap rankings, charts, and more."
[02:34:57] <Bytram> #news.bitcoin.com
[02:35:01] <Bytram> #g news.bitcoin.com
[02:35:01] <MrPlow> https://news.bitcoin.com - "news.Bitcoin.com is the world's premier 24/7 news feed covering everything bitcoin-related."
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[02:36:01] <Bytram> .
[02:36:04] <Bytram> Well, I
[02:36:44] <Bytram> I'm supposed to be AT work in 10 hours, so I'm gonna hit the hay. Have a great night everyone!
[02:37:16] <Bytram> oh, and feel free to submit any of the preceding links as stories, too. We're running low and the holidays are coming.
[02:37:18] <Bytram> thanks!
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[02:38:57] <chromas> ♪Christmas is coming; the queue is getting low♪
[02:42:43] <cortex> do you guys have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour, https://urbit.org ?
[02:42:44] <upstart> ^ 03Urbit - A personal server
[02:43:41] <chromas> Requires third-party servers just to load the content
[02:43:42] * chromas grinches
[02:44:12] <cortex> A personal unix server for normies, and also the reinvention/redefinition of all of computing from first principles. The ultimate yak shave.
[02:45:23] <cortex> it's hella slow because this is the "assembly language" it executes. https://urbit.org
[02:45:25] <upstart> ^ 03Urbit - A personal server
[02:45:50] <chromas> Hm, I don't see anything about blockchains. Isn't blockchain the current hotness? Blockchain blockchain
[02:45:57] <cortex> it's not a blockchain thing.
[02:46:14] <chromas> Well that's not cool, man
[02:46:37] <cortex> there is a hierarchical namespace that you can buy (think IP address blocks) to GetRichQuick(TM)(C)(BBQ)
[02:46:52] <cortex> but you don't have to buy in to use it
[02:48:12] <cortex> there's 4 billion identities (2^32, like IPv4 addresses) and they'll give you one for free. There's also 2^64 identities that you can generate for free, but the idea is that eventually they will be useless because no one on the network will trust them.
[02:48:53] <cortex> "if bitcoin is money, ethereum is law, urbit is land"
[02:49:37] <chromas> I saw that. I thought ethereum was money too
[02:50:02] <cortex> https://youtu.be
[02:50:03] <upstart> ^ 03Mars Talk Ep. 11: What is Urbit? (Panel Discussion) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[02:50:04] <chromas> Shouldn't everyone just be assigned /64s and use ipv6 addresses for identiy?
[02:52:09] <cortex> the idea is that a scarce address space eliminates spamming and scamming. Scarcity means each address has a value, so if it costs like $10 for an identity to participate on the network, you better get more than $10 from tarnishing the reputation of the identities you used for the spam/scam/ddos etc.
[02:54:25] <cortex> theres also /48s that you can generate for your /32 and give them access to act on your behalf. So you can have 2^16 devices, that have access to the same data and identity.
[02:54:32] <chromas> Does that help with zombie botnets?
[02:59:10] <cortex> if someone hacks a bunch of urbits they can have a botnet. I'm not sure what would happen, I think the bug would get fixed and people's reputations would be reset. Hopefully urbit is virus free, they want to freeze the underlying software (their versioning system counts with integers down to zero). but realistically you can still DOS the underlying the computers on the real internet instead of through the urbit network
[03:02:54] <cortex> check out their programming language https://youtu.be here's a sample https://github.com
[03:02:55] <upstart> ^ 03A Very Gentle Hoon Intro (Urbit) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:02:56] <upstart> ^ 03arvo/talk.hoon at master · urbit/arvo · GitHub
[03:03:03] <cortex> I promise it's super straight forward once you get that it's basically lisp but they name functions using ascii symbols that you have to memorize
[03:03:28] <cortex> ~~super~~
[03:05:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Unveils Entrant to the U.S. Navy's MQ-25 Drone Tanker Competition - http://sylnt.us - up-forever
[03:14:03] <cortex> unrelated http://www.thedrive.com
[03:14:04] <upstart> ^ 03The Navy Says "Fly Before Buy" When It Comes To Its New MQ-25 Drone Tanker - The Drive
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[12:06:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia to Stop Writing Drivers for 32-Bit Systems (Eventually) - http://sylnt.us - remember-when-32-bits-was-an-UPgrade?
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[22:06:36] <Bytram> #g bitcoin current price
[22:06:37] <MrPlow> https://www.coindesk.com - "The CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index provides the latest and most accurate bitcoin price using an average from the world's leading exchanges."
[22:10:28] <Bytram> https://www.coinbase.com
[22:10:28] <upstart> ^ 03Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Litecoin Price Charts - Coinbase
[22:11:47] <chromas> Need a buttcoin bot
[22:12:06] <chromas> Botcoin
[22:26:45] * AndyTheAbsurd still doesn't understand why people think Bitcoin is worth *anything*.
[22:37:47] <Bytram> if there were an alt-coin called buttcoin, would we track its price with a buttbot?
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[23:45:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Hires Chip Designers From Apple and Qualcomm - http://sylnt.us - loadsajobs