#Soylent | Logs for 2017-12-11

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[00:00:40] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6816, owned by RickDangerous
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[01:01:36] <Sulla> My kid really likes model train yt videos, the autism of super detailed layouts is going to force me to rip mine apart for being subperfect
[01:03:14] <chromas> Have the kid do it. Make 'er learn.
[01:03:49] <Sulla> Is three
[01:04:25] <chromas> Sounds like a prodigy to me. Better than a compuserv, eh
[01:06:07] <Sulla> I have been real picky about my twins not playing with disgusting modern tech until they earn it.
[01:06:19] <Sulla> Buddy and I set up a comodore 64 and an apple ee
[01:06:34] <chromas> You gotta get 'em hooked early. Make 'em addicts
[01:07:31] <Sulla> Kek. I do love my internet addiction
[01:07:47] <Sulla> I feel bad modern kids will have a worse internet than I had in the 90s and 2000s
[01:08:08] <chromas> Because of facebutt and reddit?
[01:08:17] <chromas> And ads
[01:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram++
[01:12:50] <Bender> karma - bytram: 94
[01:12:59] <Bytram> lol
[01:13:09] * Bytram was actually expecting a #smake for THAT one!
[01:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> puns++
[01:13:22] <Bender> karma - puns: 4
[01:14:26] <Bytram> gnawed gnawed
[01:47:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon to Audit the Department of Defense - http://sylnt.us - quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes
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[01:53:28] * Deucalion pokes Sirfinku_ and sniffs the air
[01:53:45] <Sirfinku_> not dead yet fuckers
[01:53:48] <Sirfinku_> despite attempts
[01:54:11] <Sirfinku_> I have a full time food taster
[01:59:12] <Bytram> # "I'm so excited" lyrics
[01:59:32] <Bytram> #g "I'm so excited" lyrics
[01:59:33] <MrPlow> https://www.azlyrics.com - "Lyrics to \"I'm So Excited\" song by The Pointer Sisters: Tonight's the night we're gonna make it happen Tonight we'll put all other things aside Give in this..."
[02:00:37] * Deucalion detects mould spores... where you been hiding Sirfinku_ ? Your grannies shoe cupboard?
[02:00:43] <Sulla> I feel like 90s and 00s were good for places like maddox and pierat
[02:01:07] <Sirfinku_> naw, just the darker corners of bars and the internet
[02:01:13] <Sulla> Video games without cd keys
[02:01:26] <Sulla> None of this "online verification"
[02:01:37] <Deucalion> The 90s and 00s were good for nothing.... after all they led to where we are now.
[02:02:13] <Sulla> Reasonable conclusion
[02:02:23] <Bytram> I don't see nothin wrong with that
[02:02:38] * Bytram feels his brain attempt to 'splode
[02:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> cd keys? noob. back in my day we hand copied the source from a magazine.
[02:02:50] <Sirfinku_> it's ok, the norks are going to make crispr super soldiers and we'll all be dead soon
[02:03:04] <Sirfinku_> so not much longer
[02:03:20] <Bytram> unless they got hit wit incendiaries of some sort. then they would be CRISPR critters.
[02:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm fine with anything as long as i get to see cali go first.
[02:03:30] <Sulla> Yes
[02:03:36] <Deucalion> Well if your priority in life is not living one and pissing about playing a game having a virtual life.... I'm not sure where we go from that. After all... within seconds someone will be along to explain how what we think is life is just a virtual reality... turtles man
[02:04:01] <Bytram> is all I got, folks
[02:04:07] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[02:04:11] <Sulla> Night
[02:04:28] <Bytram> another early-ish shift tomorrow.
[02:04:36] <chromas> it's mitch mcconnel all the way down
[02:04:38] <Bytram> Sulla: and a goo dnight to you, too!
[02:04:42] <Bytram> laters!
[02:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, i have this theory that i'm just a perl script looking at line noise and seeing the million monkeys phenomenon.
[02:05:32] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, and you have no possible way to prove or disprove that theory. So not point worrying about it.
[02:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. it keeps my give-a-shit level manageable though.
[02:08:13] <chromas> Denier! Python is the language of the gods!
[02:08:22] <chromas> Heretic! Heretic! Heretic!
[02:08:31] <Sirfinku_> I really think the average person should only give a shit about 3 or 4 things
[02:08:41] <Sirfinku_> more than that just strains the brainbox
[02:08:49] <Deucalion> Define average?
[02:08:50] <chromas> White(space) power!
[02:09:03] <Deucalion> Fucking bots
[02:09:22] <chromas> The mean person? Or the median?
[02:09:32] <Sirfinku_> I don't fucking know
[02:10:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, look at this existence and tell me again it's not done in perl.
[02:10:01] <Sirfinku_> whatever they use to write horoscopes
[02:10:05] <Sirfinku_> that profile
[02:11:57] <Deucalion> Oh cripes.... it went all teenage existential profound up in here after TMB came out of the closet.
[02:12:36] <chromas> 2cool4school
[02:12:58] <Sulla> Im gonna set up a tax dodge church that I believe in AI as a god and can only live into the next life when singularity. So the govt needs to give me money to spend on computer parts
[02:13:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait if i'm gay that means i gotta vote democrat now, right?
[02:13:10] * chromas updates his mspace page
[02:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> well in that case...
[02:13:31] * TheMightyBuzzard sexually harasses Deucalion
[02:14:04] <Sulla> Tmbs like of tiddies was all proof that he in fact is disgusted by them?
[02:14:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body
[02:14:51] <chromas> Like Ellen?
[02:14:57] <Deucalion> Yes TMB - Isn't obvious? ALL GAYS are the same, think the same, vote the same. The other is so obvious by their homogenised form. All the same. HATE THEM!
[02:14:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++
[02:14:59] <Bender> karma - chromas: 193
[02:15:50] * Deucalion misses Ellen ref.... Ellen Degenerate?
[02:15:56] <chromas> Aye, sir
[02:16:14] <chromas> That's just the wa I would've spelled it, too :D
[02:16:48] <Sulla> For the longest time I thought that was what people called her and not her real name
[02:17:11] <chromas> I accidentally saw a bit of her show on tv once. Her audience seemed ridiculously over-enthusiastic.
[02:17:47] <Deucalion> Oh wait... TMB claimed he sex harrassed me a while back.... /me inspects TMBs accounts... nah I'll wait a few decades then mention it
[02:17:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> quick, chromas, to the Virtue Signal!
[02:18:50] <chromas> I'm transblack, you know; just like Shaun King
[02:19:07] <chromas> The one-drop rule applies.
[02:19:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> is that like the five second rule?
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[02:21:32] <chromas> If ou can find one drop of black blood in your ancestry then you're automatically full-on African American. Give up the gibs, man.
[02:21:33] <Deucalion> No Idea what that is but as long as you are supporting the MFGBSTQIhjckdjaeueiwyriufhcxv!shjk! banner and demanding equal recognition for being an individual snowflake.... then welcome onboard.
[02:21:48] <chromas> Deucalion: You need at least two +s in there
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[02:22:29] <NotSulla> What kind of fall is necessary to break your average apple or samsung
[02:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, that sounds like work. pass.
[02:22:33] <chromas> Let's talk about Sulla behind his back while he's totally not here!
[02:22:59] <NotSulla> Yes yes, tell me again about how we play to supress the animal haters
[02:23:15] * chromas passes out the fur suits
[02:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSulla, not sure but if you supply the testing materials i'll be as thorough as necessary to give you five significant digits of precision.
[02:24:07] <chromas> What's the drop surface?
[02:24:46] <Deucalion> NotSulla - Samsung A5 - 3ft drop on concrete, corner landing, screen cracked but operational otherwise. These glass phones are stupid.
[02:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> the motherfuckers that keep throwing their trash out their windows into my yard's windshields.
[02:25:49] <Deucalion> This is all fake news
[02:25:58] <NotSulla> Dropped my priv 6-8 feet onto hardwood on every surface imaginable about five times in the past couple weeks
[02:26:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8====D // fake nudes
[02:26:11] <NotSulla> Just now I had the worst damage in the sim coming loose
[02:26:20] <NotSulla> Beat it against the wall and is good again
[02:26:44] <Deucalion> Much like a proper woman... amirite?
[02:27:36] <NotSulla> Proper women dont require beating
[02:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> of course not. you get to do it purely for enjoyment.
[02:28:09] <NotSulla> Kek
[02:28:21] <Deucalion> Oh my.... when stupid humour gets dark it gets dark fast.
[02:28:48] <NotSulla> Gonna be a good exchange for the libs to bring up when I run for city auditor
[02:29:23] <Deucalion> What the fuck is a city auditor and who would pay for such a thing?
[02:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno but it sounds like a good job.
[02:29:41] <Deucalion> H,mmmmm... tis a city.... I audited it... yep still a city
[02:29:57] <NotSulla> Hopefully not us. Eugene has a ballot measure about it coming up because people dont trust our financial papers
[02:30:18] <NotSulla> Nevermind we get top rated year after year and have never gotten a complaint
[02:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> like that guy who gets paid to go out and polish the cannon in front of the courthouse every day.
[02:30:54] <NotSulla> So the city would rather spend assloads of money on a worthless position than go with what our extenal auditors say
[02:31:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> well at least he used to. bought himself his own cannon on ebay and went into business for himself.
[02:31:03] <Deucalion> And then gets to unplug the shit from the bathrooms the rest of the day.
[02:31:08] <NotSulla> Most likely they will eliminate my bosses position and just make it elected
[02:31:58] <Deucalion> And if he gets a speck of shit on the ceremonial cannon uniform - dock a months pay - that idle guy - all he does is polish th cannon
[02:33:05] <NotSulla> Conservative cities virtue in different ways
[02:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin libruls. the founding fathers got to own cannons but i don't even get a machine gun anymore.
[02:33:34] <NotSulla> Cons polish cannons for 40k/year, libs vote liberal arts majors to audit finances for 150
[02:33:44] * Deucalion throws glitter up in the air - FABULOUS PARTY - then passes out
[02:34:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Deucalion
[02:34:08] * exec proverbially pisses two fingers of Hitler did nothing wrong on Deucalion
[02:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[02:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[02:35:15] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 522
[02:36:43] * chromas moves to set up a menstrual blood art display in the city square
[02:40:42] <NotSulla> We had the winter olympic trials a couple years ago, they wanted to hide the pit downtown so they put up a 30k seethrough mural
[02:42:21] <chromas> Financial Olympics. Who can spend the most?
[02:50:17] * TheMightyBuzzard enters as a trans-democrat
[03:09:26] <NotSulla> Ive been posting as transrobot on r9k
[03:10:02] <NotSulla> Even though I fuck my wife at least once a day I feel like a virgin on the inside #transrobot acceptance
[03:19:07] <NotSulla> Gin and tonic or rye whisky? Cant decide
[03:20:20] <chromas> "Why don't we have both?"
[03:20:31] <NotSulla> Chromas++
[03:20:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 194
[03:21:04] <NotSulla> So I think that "goddess savitri devi" is just a leftist pretending to be a nazi
[03:21:30] <NotSulla> Cant really call them a russian because his work so far would not have won an election
[03:23:01] <NotSulla> https://en.m.wikipedia.org
[03:23:02] <upstart> ^ 03Savitri Devi - Wikipedia
[03:29:15] <chromas> Maybe CTR troll getting his money's worth?
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[03:33:34] <NotSulla> ShariaBlue is always trying new tactics
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[03:47:38] <NotSulla> Still having occasional issues where the submit button functions as the preview a couple of times before actually posting
[03:48:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i blame them bastards in quebec. french AND canadian.
[03:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSulla, you wouldn't happen to be using some weirdshit browser or some wonky user scripts, would you?
[03:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> speak now or forever hold my balls
[03:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> right then...
[03:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[03:51:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[03:51:48] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 523
[03:52:47] <chromas> "closed as not a real question"
[03:53:02] <chromas> SN needs a stack exchange section
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[03:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we can already abuse lusers in comments, irc, and on github. no sense being greedy.
[04:07:57] <NotSulla> Firefox with no modifications
[04:08:29] <NotSulla> Was taking a call from my boss, have to fix some queries
[04:09:05] <chromas> 57?
[04:10:42] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe hell, you mean i gotta update it past the full retard line?
[04:14:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i only keep it around for testing anyway but still...
[04:14:41] <chromas> Yeah, 57's buggy: https://i.imgur.com
[04:15:34] <NotSulla> I did, I hate my life now
[04:15:53] <NotSulla> Bookmarks dont appear to work for the amount of work im willin to put in
[04:16:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Algorithm Goes From Sorting Cat Pics to Analyzing DNA - http://sylnt.us - even-AIs-like-cat-pics
[04:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder if there's an easy way to find out how many tabs you have open
[04:16:55] <NotSulla> Top corner shows I have 6? Does your not
[04:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> palemoon
[04:18:31] <NotSulla> Fug I just did a half hour of work in the test environment
[04:18:34] <NotSulla> Ill get it
[04:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yer sposed to test first, right?
[04:20:40] <NotSulla> >implying
[04:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, there we go. 160 even.
[04:21:18] <NotSulla> Just building a simple reference query to compare roles and permission lists, not too worried about breaking anything
[04:21:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> famous last words
[04:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i'll update firefox tomorrow and see if i can reproduce yer bug.
[04:23:25] <NotSulla> Cool
[04:23:46] <NotSulla> Was more worried others might also experience it who arent loudmouths
[04:24:05] <NotSulla> Figured it gods way of telling me to check my spelling
[04:26:19] <NotSulla> Need to work on a presentation for the peoplesoft 9.2 government/education meetup
[04:26:55] <NotSulla> Gonna tell everyone how shitty and time wasting they are by using peoplesoft query and pivot tables instead of being microsoft excel master race
[04:27:27] <NotSulla> Last conference I went to some of the most expensive colleges in the US/Canada were taking a week to do what I do in 30 minutes
[04:27:40] <NotSulla> Tax money at work
[04:27:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake NotSulla
[04:27:44] * MrPlow smakes NotSulla upside the head with division by zero
[04:28:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> peoplesoft and excell are both for noobs
[04:28:23] <NotSulla> Come and see the violence inheirate in the system
[04:28:36] <NotSulla> Not going to disagree
[04:28:41] <NotSulla> But have a good system going
[04:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff. i'd install OS/2 if paid enough.
[04:29:49] <NotSulla> For straight query I have some generic sql manager
[04:30:03] <NotSulla> Excel is nice for building the CAFR
[04:30:50] <NotSulla> Can pump out a fund cash flow statement in a half hour to an hour if I have to correct the system multiple times, most orgs are stuck with overnight reports to check how correcions went pushing them out a week
[04:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i don't get to type it out at a prompt to test it first, i don't want to do it.
[04:32:21] <NotSulla> Understandable
[04:32:29] <NotSulla> Ms sucks for query, but I like for reports
[04:32:46] <NotSulla> I want to do some more advanced stuff but only finance so it tells me to kek off
[04:32:56] <NotSulla> Stuck with ps and ms
[04:33:25] <NotSulla> Pms
[04:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> but really, there's not a single db i'm happy with. i want something that clusters like a motherfucker but doesn't take a masters to tweak the memory usage settings on.
[04:35:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the oss clustered dbs are pretty good on the first and don't even show up for the second.
[04:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it took NCommander's gigantic brain and more than a day to get mysql-cluster to quit shitting itself because of memory settings
[04:37:19] * NCommander pages the brain in
[04:37:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ?
[04:37:30] <NotSulla> Interesting. I pulled it up nd will take a look at this stuff when im not drunk on tuesday
[04:37:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's still set for half as much ram as our db servers have because it's too much trouble to change after they doubled our ram
[04:37:54] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at NCommander
[04:37:54] <NCommander> NotSulla, MS-SQL is not horrible, but I only recommend it in specific workloads as it does have good clustering
[04:38:15] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, that's more to prevent disaster; ndbd will malloc() the entire block and the kernel will OOM ndbd
[04:38:17] <NCommander> Which is never good
[04:38:43] <NotSulla> Eugene is a pretty small city, not a huge data load
[04:38:47] <NCommander> NotSulla, OR?
[04:38:49] * NCommander has been there
[04:38:55] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:39:13] <NCommander> NotSulla, ugh, peoplesoft
[04:39:15] <NCommander> Used to be decent
[04:39:17] <NCommander> Then got oracled
[04:39:23] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, boss. got a release going into testing phase wednesday. Bytram's got that covered but if you get a chance to look over a pull request for obvious stupidity tomorrow or the next day let me know.
[04:39:33] <NotSulla> They just got rid of dropdown menues
[04:39:40] <NotSulla> For slideout animated menu
[04:39:42] <NCommander> I thought they axed all non-Oracle database support though
[04:39:48] <NCommander> NotSulla, "great" :(
[04:40:22] <NotSulla> I asked the dev in charge how power users were supposed to get around, told me to deal with it because its "better"
[04:40:24] <NCommander> I haven't heard any good exit strageties for peoplesoft short of migrating to a new platform which at best of times is difficult
[04:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't put it up yet. got one or two more bugs i wanna fix first.
[04:40:48] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, don't see a PR
[04:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^^
[04:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably get em tomorrow before noon though.
[04:41:17] <NotSulla> We had 8.4 so just did an upgrade to 9.2. Fixed a lot of issues but made new ones.
[04:41:28] * TheMightyBuzzard loves shiny, new bugs
[04:41:39] <NCommander> NotSulla, I don't even want to think what you're paying. Eugine is pretty small city, you're probably paying a good fortune to Oracle for a quarter of what you actually need :(
[04:41:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> so much more interesting than the stale, old bugs
[04:41:48] <NotSulla> Very
[04:42:06] <NCommander> SQL Server is pricey, but you do get what you pay for there, great tools, and upfront
[04:42:11] <NotSulla> I was calculating the amount to capitalize and if I wouldnt lose my job I would have written a letter to the editor
[04:42:14] <NCommander> Not Oracle's ... *specialness* with buying Oracle
[04:42:32] <NotSulla> We got away with only 15 mods at last count
[04:42:44] <NCommander> And an Oracle DBA
[04:42:48] <NCommander> Unless you're moonlighting
[04:42:56] <NotSulla> Already had one
[04:42:59] <NCommander> Cause unlike every other DB, you pretty much need a dedicated DBA to babysit the stupid thing
[04:43:21] <NCommander> NotSulla, multi-schema, or multi-instance? Since oracle doesn't have the concept of multiple databases last time I played in that landmine.
[04:43:45] <NCommander> or didn't really
[04:43:58] <NCommander> Looks like the situation there sucks quite a bit less, but still requires a lot of madness w/ tablespaces and such
[04:44:15] <NotSulla> Fug had to look up the defn. Looks like multi instance
[04:44:25] <NCommander> Yeah
[04:44:29] <NotSulla> The db for hrms and financials are separate
[04:44:38] <NCommander> Trying to get two apps to share the same Oracle cluster (if you're RACed) is the path to sad
[04:44:43] <NCommander> Since Oracle access permissions are :(
[04:45:50] * NCommander notes that while I don't love MSFT, Oracle is one copy I *really* wish would go bankrupt :(
[04:45:56] <NotSulla> Outside my knowledge. Just a lowely accountant who has been told to "make work"
[04:46:24] <NotSulla> My only comparisons were mainframe systems, so I dont know what is better
[04:47:16] <NotSulla> Loved state of alaska, financials went down every other week and could only store three months data
[04:47:57] * NCommander lived in Alaska
[04:48:18] <NCommander> NotSulla, Alaska solved the problem of government by exiling them to a place that can only be reached by air or by sea
[04:48:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's brilliant, that is. like napoleon and elba.
[04:48:43] <NCommander> And then building our state senate in a previous bank ball.
[04:48:54] <NCommander> *vault
[04:49:01] <NCommander> So it can be sealed away in cases of emergencies
[04:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell me they didn't add ventilation. please.
[04:49:37] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, Alaska's state government is actually remarkably sane. When they built the pipeline, they decided to invest all the oil money, and pay dividines to state citizens.
[04:49:45] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:49:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice
[04:49:50] <NotSulla> I miss it
[04:50:02] <NotSulla> Going to laugh if they get moved to willow
[04:50:06] <NCommander> And the state constituion is considered one of the best written documents in the world
[04:50:23] <NotSulla> Unfortunate the feds dont like to fully honor it
[04:50:26] <NCommander> NotSulla, never going to happen. There's a massive pissing match on people that want the capital in Anchorage, Fairbanks, Palmer, and then the block that wants to keep it where it is.
[04:50:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> TN's been taking their surplus and just paying for anyone who wants to to go to community college
[04:50:51] <NCommander> I believe the state capital is set in the Alaskan Constituion, which requires an amendment to move it.
[04:50:58] <NotSulla> Interesting
[04:51:08] <NotSulla> Glad the pipeline might go through
[04:51:14] <NCommander> NotSulla, yeah, there was a serious try to move to the capital to Anchorage about a decade ago which failed.
[04:51:17] <NotSulla> I have a lot of money riding on the ak economy
[04:51:26] <NCommander> Well ... eh ...
[04:51:33] <NCommander> Pipeline has been moving less and less oil each year.
[04:51:43] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:51:44] * NCommander has actually driven along it for the full length, from prudhoe to valdez
[04:52:00] <NotSulla> Amazed its still running
[04:52:05] <NotSulla> Same
[04:52:11] <NCommander> You've driven the Dalton?
[04:52:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight gents. it's a couple hours past my bedtime and i gotta start back on the hateful cardio tomorrow. see yall round.
[04:52:20] <NotSulla> Once
[04:52:22] <NotSulla> Cya
[04:52:23] <NCommander> Same
[04:52:25] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, night
[04:52:29] <NotSulla> Done the alcan six times so far
[04:52:34] <NCommander> NotSulla, they're not kidding when they say "Pavement ends"
[04:52:42] <NotSulla> Yep
[04:52:57] <NotSulla> We had some ass take a rental car down it
[04:52:58] <NCommander> NotSulla, I've done the ALCAN three times, one round trip in summer, and AK->lower 48 in winter.
[04:53:17] <NCommander> NotSulla, not a good idea. I went with a full sized spare tire, and rescue equipment
[04:53:25] <NotSulla> Same
[04:53:32] <NCommander> Didn't need it but still.
[04:53:38] <NCommander> The Dalton will *destroy* a vechile
[04:53:44] <NotSulla> Last alcan trip I did was a new '13 150 towing a '86 vanagon
[04:53:50] <NotSulla> Was "fun"
[04:53:52] <NCommander> Ouch
[04:53:54] <NotSulla> Did the cassier too
[04:54:05] <NotSulla> But im alive so f it
[04:54:07] <NCommander> I have no idea how people drive those massive buses on some of those roads
[04:54:17] <NotSulla> No idea
[04:54:17] <NCommander> I wanted to do the Dempster, but my truck was falling apart post-Dalton
[04:54:44] <NCommander> A Hyundai Tuscon was *not* built for ~800 miles gravel
[04:54:49] <NCommander> And no fuel on coldfoot
[04:54:54] <NotSulla> Would be fun
[04:54:54] <NCommander> So happy I was carrying 10 gal reserve.
[04:55:12] <NotSulla> You get watered down gas in tok when you went?
[04:55:18] <NotSulla> Bastard always done that
[04:55:23] <NCommander> Don't remember buying gas in Tok
[04:55:34] <NotSulla> Tok is last town before canada
[04:55:35] <NCommander> I think I filled up at the border, then again in Delta Junction.
[04:55:41] <NCommander> There's a service station in Tok.
[04:55:44] <NCommander> er
[04:55:46] <NCommander> At the border
[04:55:51] <NCommander> just pass customs.
[04:56:13] <NotSulla> Dont recall that, but has been four years
[04:56:36] <NCommander> God I miss it
[04:56:39] <NCommander> I want to go back so badly
[04:56:48] <NCommander> Something about Alaska is different than the Lower 48
[04:56:48] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:56:55] <NotSulla> I have inlaws in palmer
[04:57:03] <NotSulla> And a business I have a claim on In anchorage
[04:57:04] <NCommander> Bought my current car in Palmer
[04:57:17] <NotSulla> Same
[04:57:18] <NCommander> Still have ALaska tags on it
[04:57:22] <NotSulla> Er, last car
[04:57:37] <NCommander> The Last Frontier
[04:57:43] <NCommander> Very few places in the world match it
[04:57:49] <NCommander> And I couldn't even tell you why.
[04:57:58] <NCommander> Can't put it in words.
[04:58:02] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:58:07] <NotSulla> It feels "freer"
[04:58:22] <NotSulla> Anchorage was a hellhole but still miss it
[04:58:29] <NCommander> I actually liked Anchorage a lot
[04:58:34] <NotSulla> Smoking a cigar in -20 was glorious
[04:58:39] <NCommander> But I was on the very edge of the city, in Jewel Lake
[04:58:44] <NotSulla> Nice
[04:58:52] <NCommander> I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that you're closer to the raw edge of the world. Even in a city, you screw up, you die.
[04:58:58] <NotSulla> Yeah
[04:59:05] <NotSulla> I was in midtown and also on muldoon
[04:59:09] <NotSulla> Lots of crime
[04:59:09] <NCommander> But I've been to Iraq as a civilian, don't remember that feeling.
[04:59:18] <NotSulla> Right now has insane crime due to the lack of jobs
[04:59:29] <NCommander> The darkness doesn't help
[04:59:33] <NotSulla> Nope
[04:59:35] <NCommander> Polar night/day is bloody trippy.
[04:59:41] <NCommander> But that might be it
[04:59:45] <NCommander> You're living on an extreme
[04:59:56] <NCommander> Extremes can make or break a person. Make someone a great man, or a horrid man.
[05:00:05] <NotSulla> A former boss wants to sell me a car rental lot for current cost of vehicles, brings in 400k/year on 200k assets
[05:00:13] <NotSulla> But with all the crime I dont want to deal with it
[05:00:16] <NotSulla> Yeah
[05:00:30] <NotSulla> Waking up with 3ft of snow was godly
[05:00:36] <NCommander> That won't be the lot up in downtown? Near the junction of AK-2 and Seward?
[05:00:41] <NCommander> *Seward Highway
[05:00:59] <NotSulla> Trying to recall
[05:01:20] <NotSulla> Called adventure alaska. It was on airport road and spenard
[05:01:30] <NotSulla> Or near it
[05:01:39] <NotSulla> Now is on minisota and 36th
[05:01:57] <NCommander> Yeah I know that one, not far from Northern Lights
[05:02:11] <NCommander> When I was searching for a car, I looked there. They were looking for a buyer for the place two years ago.
[05:02:38] <NCommander> Whole area is badly depressed
[05:02:53] <NCommander> Oil companies mostly important talent, so native Alaskans, and immigrants get a raw deal
[05:03:01] <NotSulla> Yeah
[05:03:19] <NCommander> Anchorage is better than most because it's the main port in and out of the state. Everything passes through Anchorage
[05:03:26] <NCommander> Fairbanks reminds me of being on the Rust Belt
[05:03:49] <NotSulla> I was goin to buy a house on hillside but have that "big one is comming" feel
[05:03:56] <NCommander> A lot of tourists come up for cruises but rarely stay in the city and such, so not much money coming in
[05:04:01] <NotSulla> Yeah
[05:04:10] <NCommander> Well, we're overdue. I've seen pictures of the Good Friday Quake
[05:04:17] <NotSulla> Ill probably end up a snowbird just for the summer rental lot
[05:04:32] <NotSulla> Thinking about a cabin at big lake
[05:05:41] <NCommander> If I settle there, I'm a full timer
[05:05:44] <NCommander> I can deal w/ the dark.
[05:05:53] <NotSulla> I cant handle that much of the inlaws
[05:05:55] <NCommander> Would love to have a property somewhere on the railbelt.
[05:05:58] <NotSulla> I preferred the winter
[05:06:02] <NCommander> NotSulla, ooooh, yeah that would kill me.
[05:06:33] <NCommander> Sadly, in the entire time I lived up there, I never did take the Alaskan Railroad
[05:06:48] <NotSulla> Same
[05:06:51] <NCommander> But I used to stop and photograph the trains as they rolled through town. Always loved the livery
[05:07:05] <NotSulla> Im a trainfag so pretty disapointed
[05:07:39] <NotSulla> I checked it out at one point but was ungodly expensve (for a college student)
[05:08:49] <NCommander> NotSulla, the glacier run was cheap. I did that the first time I ever went to Alaska
[05:09:02] <NCommander> NotSulla, heh, I railfailed the entire New York City subway :)
[05:09:47] <NotSulla> Wife and I are looking at doing a cross country loop once the next kid is born
[05:10:06] * NCommander has driven coast to coast ... 10 times?
[05:10:11] <NCommander> Never gets old
[05:10:16] <NCommander> Though West->East always seems to go slower
[05:11:12] <NotSulla> Only ever been back east once
[05:11:26] <NotSulla> I guess twice, forgot about georgia
[05:11:54] <NCommander> NotSulla, I'm a city rat. NYC is both home and hometown as of right now.
[05:12:01] <NotSulla> Too big
[05:12:05] <NotSulla> I cant handle portland
[05:12:10] <NCommander> That's how I feel. I'm just waiting for my fortunes to change
[05:12:20] <NCommander> NotSulla, lived out in St. Helens on US-30 for four years.
[05:12:25] <NotSulla> Nice
[05:12:40] <NCommander> Great community. Just far enough from PDX to be close, but not too close. Plus it had a rail yard so I could watch the trains go by
[05:12:55] <NCommander> Not that BNSF has a lot of variety in it's rolling stock
[05:13:06] <NCommander> Logging cars, oil wagons, and more Dash 40s than you can shake a leg at.
[05:13:23] <NotSulla> Reality is going to force me into buying house im in and renovating, but was hoping to live further in country. One nice thing is I am a five minute walk from eugene yard
[05:13:28] <NotSulla> Pretty small but kids love it
[05:14:24] <NCommander> NotSulla, funny enough, four years in PDX, never experienced an earthquake. Six months in Anchorage, had one 5.2 and another 6. Made Freddies sway like it was a fisher price house.
[05:14:40] <NotSulla> Hah
[05:14:44] <NotSulla> When did you leave ak?
[05:15:07] <NotSulla> Oh wait, jewel lake, you shopped at the rich people freddies southside
[05:15:16] <NotSulla> With cheaper prices than midtown for no reason
[05:16:02] <NotSulla> Do any shopping at new sagayas?
[05:18:31] <NCommander> NotSulla, 2014 now I guess.
[05:19:21] <NCommander> NotSulla, I found a cheap room for rent for $600 in Jewel Lake. Had a bike, didn't own a car at the time. Used to spend a lot of time at the market, and cursing GCI.
[05:19:32] <NCommander> GCI == making Comcast looks attractive since the dawn of time.
[05:20:29] <NotSulla> Bike paths were fantastic.
[05:20:39] <NotSulla> GCI
[05:20:41] <NotSulla> Ugh
[05:21:12] <NotSulla> When I got to oregon and got comcast it didnt even make me feel sick I was so numb
[05:21:41] <NotSulla> Wifes parents work for MTA, her dad is always arguing how data caps "help the internet for normal people"
[05:21:48] <NotSulla> Alaska telecoms suck
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[06:46:27] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, Australia, 22°C/71°F, 5:46 pm GMT+11, Monday, 11 December 2017
[07:56:23] <SoyGuest22783> if you're on the ring of fire - watch this guy for a week or so, and evaluate how accurate his predictions are (and report back): https://www.youtube.com
[07:56:24] <upstart> ^ 03dutchsinse - YouTube
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[10:26:17] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, Australia, 17°C/63°F, 9:26 pm GMT+11, Monday, 11 December 2017
[11:16:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Nature' Editorial Juxtaposes FOIA Email Release With Illegal Hacking - http://sylnt.us - nothing-up-my-sleeve
[11:22:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:22:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3803
[11:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday crutchy
[11:22:13] * exec transphobically bitchslaps a ciri of truffles with crutchy
[11:24:18] <crutchy> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[11:24:20] * exec sneakily derives a hashtable of SARS from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, sars. yummy.
[11:24:48] <crutchy> i got a bitchslapped ciri
[11:24:56] <crutchy> that aint so bad i gues
[11:25:18] <crutchy> s/$/s/
[11:25:18] <upstart> <crutchy> that aint so bad i guess
[11:25:27] <crutchy> ~g'day upstart
[11:25:29] * exec cromulently allocates a pair of used panties full of bitches brew for upstart
[11:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake upstart
[11:25:54] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with just the tip
[11:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may work on MrPlow while i'm out of state for christmas. haven't had time lately.
[11:31:37] <crutchy> one day i might get back into my dumbot
[11:31:48] <crutchy> i probly forgot how it works by now :p
[11:34:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> now now, be fair... you forgot how it works while you were still actively coding it.
[11:40:01] <crutchy> hehe that's true
[11:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know i certainly ain't sure what i was doing last time i poked into MrPlow. going to have to commit and push to github to find out what all i changed.
[11:44:17] <crutchy> i still work on the push server project on github, but its mainly for work
[11:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> "push server"... hmm... yeah, there's plenty i'd like to push. out a third floor window.
[11:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> only thing i really worked on in the past six months besides paying stuff is a little bit of rehash coding these past few weeks.
[11:53:36] <crutchy> https://github.com
[11:53:37] <upstart> ^ 03GitHub - crutchy-/push_server: simple php websockets server
[11:53:51] <crutchy> last commit was 12 days ago
[11:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, okay. i remember something about you working on that beastie a while back.
[11:55:00] <crutchy> its been running at work since about march i think
[11:56:30] <crutchy> it throws the odd error that i get email for, but if it crashes it just restarts, all the clients auto-reconnect and it continues like nothing happened :p
[12:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> be nice if exec did that. cmn32480 been out of pocket a lot lately.
[12:04:54] <crutchy> hmm
[12:05:36] <crutchy> i guess i could try getting into it again
[12:05:51] <crutchy> not gunna happen tonight, but maybe tomorrow i could have a looksee
[12:06:02] <crutchy> almost bed time here
[12:06:04] <crutchy> ~time
[12:06:06] <exec> Monday, 11 December 2017 @ 11:06 pm GMT+11 - Melbourne VIC, Australia
[12:06:16] <crutchy> heh. at least it still answers
[12:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. works pretty decent right up until it gets disconnected for the most part.
[12:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ain't rushing you by any means though.
[12:07:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> lazy++
[12:07:27] <Bender> karma - lazy: 23
[12:07:45] <crutchy> nah i've been wanting to do some coding for myself
[12:07:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and...
[12:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:07:51] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 524
[12:08:01] <crutchy> most of the stuff i've been doing over the past year has been work related
[12:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mostly been doing embedded C this second half of the year. it's a nice change of pace from rehash.
[12:23:23] <crutchy> noice
[12:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, found some morning reading for the folks in #shitlords
[12:23:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://everydayfeminism.com
[12:23:51] <upstart> ^ 0310 Things Every Intersectional Feminist Should Ask On a First Date - Everyday Feminism
[12:24:32] <boru> Looks good. Should make things much easier for mate selection.
[12:24:53] <boru> "So, I have these ten ques--" "No."
[12:25:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ed zackery
[12:25:53] <boru> Like many social problems, that one is self correcting.
[12:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> but really, no feminist who is looking to get laid is going to bring up ANY of that.
[12:33:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, time to take off and get my cardio on.
[12:38:56] <crutchy> cheers
[12:38:59] <crutchy> bed time for me
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[13:46:27] <boru> I think they should send Elon Musk and the CEO of Boeing to Mars.
[13:46:35] <boru> Better yet, a manned solar exploration mission.
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[15:50:24] <SoyCow8317> #submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[15:50:25] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:50:51] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[16:35:40] <upstart> ^ 031.4 Billion Clear Text Credentials Discovered in a Single Database
[16:36:12] <pinchy> i wonder if zuckerberg changed his password to "dada2"
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[17:00:27] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 1°C/33°F, 9:00 am PST, Monday, 11 December 2017
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