#Soylent | Logs for 2017-11-16
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[00:10:25] <Sulla> TwoSips--
[00:10:25] <Bender> karma - twosips: -1
[00:12:00] <chromas> woohoo++ #firefox 57! Finally, I can uninstall all those extensions I was using
[00:12:00] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 16
[00:15:02] <takyon> they were probably screwing up your RAM use anyway
[00:23:52] <chromas> Why do you smile without noscript? umatrix?
[00:23:58] <chromas> or is it a quantum smile?
[00:24:30] <takyon> i thought noscript was updated for the new firefox
[00:45:00] <mrpg> noscript is being updated, in a few days it'll be ready.
[00:47:32] <takyon> a few days of getting zero day'd
[01:02:50] <chromas> BIG NEWS GUYS
[01:02:53] <chromas> https://www.cbsnews.com
[01:02:54] <upstart> ^ 03Trump pauses during remarks for sip of water - CBS News
[01:02:55] <exec> └─ 13Trump pauses during remarks for sip of water - CBS News
[01:03:15] <chromas> cbs++
[01:03:16] <Bender> karma - cbs: 1
[01:05:11] <takyon> seems like rubio helped to make it news
[01:06:49] <mrpg> watwer++
[01:06:49] <Bender> karma - watwer: 1
[01:06:54] <mrpg> water++
[01:06:54] <Bender> karma - water: 36
[01:13:14] <Bytram> ~time UTC
[01:13:16] <exec> Thursday, 16 November 2017 @ 1:13 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[01:14:01] <mrpg> bytram welcome good night
[01:16:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Qualcomm Announces 48-Core Centriq ARM Server Chip - http://sylnt.us - core-value
[01:18:01] <Bytram> mrpg: hi! I see you've been doing stories... many thanks!!!!
[01:18:29] <mrpg> That's my job, I get paid, so I do it.
[01:18:38] <mrpg> 48 cores !?!?! what happened between 2⁵ and 2⁶ ?!?!!?!?
[01:18:55] <Bytram> I'm quite knackered atm and don't know how many stories, if any, I could get out tonight
[01:19:29] <Bytram> also, we've got some site stuff going on that I've got my finger on, too.
[01:20:07] <mrpg> the submission queue is at 18.
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[01:20:35] <mrpg> all hands battle stations, submit stories everyone!
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[01:20:37] * Bytram knows not how/where they came up w/ 48 cores... betwist 32 and 64... all I can guess is that is the die size limit of what they could reliably produce(?)
[01:21:51] <mrpg> log(2) 48 = x
[01:23:02] <Bytram> maybe 3 repeats of a set of 16 procs? coulda been 4 repeats, but one is disabled
[01:23:16] <Bytram> idk
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[01:43:45] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 18°C/64°F, 10:43 pm GMT-3, Wednesday, 15 November 2017
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[02:25:23] <Bytram> early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.
[02:25:38] <Bytram> hope you all have a great night!
[02:30:39] <Sulla> You as well
[02:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Drug Bazooka" Seized Near the U.S.-Mexican Border - http://sylnt.us - reload-quickly
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[08:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ross 128b: A Newly Discovered "Earth-Like" Exoplanet Orbiting a Less Active Red Dwarf - http://sylnt.us - Ross-128?-When-did-Harry-Mudd-join-"Friends"?
[08:25:12] <boru> Man, someone really needs to invent a faster, more efficient caffeine delivery system.
[08:25:15] <boru> coffee++
[08:25:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3758
[08:27:06] <chromas> Have you tried smoking it?
[08:27:38] <boru> It's nicer roasted.
[08:28:11] <chromas> #CaffeineVape2017
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[09:58:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Firefox "Quantum" Halves Loading Times, Reduces RAM Use by 30% - http://sylnt.us - my-extensions-dont-work
[10:04:00] <boru> That is a feckin lie.
[10:04:17] <boru> The new firefox is a PoS.
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[10:21:44] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 6°C/42°F, 2:21 am PST, Thursday, 16 November 2017
[10:24:02] <chromas> netgear--
[10:24:02] <Bender> karma - netgear: -1
[10:26:44] <boru> Netgear has industry leading remote access capability.
[10:27:09] <chromas> Mine started batin' then decided to revert to stock settings
[10:27:18] <chromas> it is a cheap0 $20 thing though
[10:27:46] <chromas> And doesn't put the login password in the login page javascript, unlike the ol' belkin
[10:28:35] * chromas assumes he missed out on all kinds of hijinks
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[10:31:58] <chromas> Speaking of firefox, I notice they hide the real themes, just like Opera did when they came out with the lame background-image-as-a-theme bs
[10:32:26] <boru> I hate everything about it.
[10:32:32] <boru> The rust crap especially.
[10:32:49] <chromas> Is rust in firefox yet?
[10:32:54] <chromas> or firefox in rust
[10:33:10] * chromas has his firefox icon set to ie's icon
[10:37:47] <chromas> oh for shizzle. even the preferences are chrome-style now. why am I not just using chrome then?
[10:57:31] <boru> I've switched to firefox esr until I can finish porting PM to FreeBSD.
[11:02:58] <boru> Mozilla have lost what was left of their minds.
[11:18:09] <chromas> I think their mind went to vivaldi
[11:18:40] <chromas> There's also waterfox
[11:19:14] <boru> Pale moon feels the most comfortable, of the alternative full fat web browsers I've used.
[11:47:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ethereum's Foot-In-Mouth Disease - http://sylnt.us - ethereal-ethereum
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[11:50:51] <Sulla> Why cant the internet just be left alone. New release of firefox on android is terrible
[12:14:43] <chromas> Did ou just get 57?
[12:24:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> All the browsers on Android I've tried have been terrible
[12:24:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> the latest iteration of Firefox just makes it looks more like Chrome IMO
[12:25:13] <chromas> Everyone wants to be Chrome
[12:25:40] <chromas> They should've taken the easy route like opera
[12:25:41] <boru> Why can't we just get rid of the web. The Internet was fine until that crap came along.
[12:25:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...which is unsurprising, since Mozilla has decided to play follow-the-leader with Chrome instead of trying to actually differentiate their product.
[12:26:07] <chromas> And isn't it ironic? Don't ya think?
[12:26:25] <chromas> I thought Mozilla was all about diversity
[12:26:56] <boru> They'll probably just reinvent their browser and start a new project again a la Seamonkey.
[12:27:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> Project Phoenix Junior
[12:27:28] <boru> Netscape -> MIS -> Seamonkey, Firefox in parallel to be a 'lightweight' alternative built with 'security' in mind.
[12:28:37] <chromas> Maybe we can get ms to open source Internet Explorer since it's deprecated now. Looking forward to the Linux port
[12:29:16] <boru> It probably uses less memory than any OSS browsers.
[12:29:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Did you know that "Internet Explorer for UNIX" was once a thing? https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:29:39] <upstart> ^ 03Internet Explorer for UNIX - Wikipedia
[12:29:40] <exec> └─ 13Internet Explorer for UNIX - Wikipedia
[12:30:09] <chromas> And it's the only other holdout against cloning Chrome
[12:45:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> ugh. Pale Moon is not loading (most) images on a page, but other browsers are...and I don't see anything in the console telling me why. Although inspecting the element shows me a "could not load image" message.
[12:54:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> oh. uBlock Origin to blame. Turned it off for the site and everything loads...but now I see all the fucking ads. So many fucking ads.
[13:35:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - With GMOs, There is No Ubuntu - http://sylnt.us - speaking-of-bill-gates
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[13:54:00] <Bytram> boru: Kudos for porting Pale Moon to BSD! I switched to PM a bit over 2 years ago and haven't looked back. Only got bit by an update once, and that was fixed within a week or two. /me can't even remember what the issues was at that time.
[13:54:04] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:54:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3759
[13:54:12] <Bytram> !uid
[13:54:12] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6776, owned by clickclickdrone
[13:54:23] <Bytram> heh.
[13:54:44] <Bytram> just noticed I've posted more stories than people have done coffee++!
[13:54:53] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[13:54:54] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[13:54:55] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[13:55:48] <Bytram> ~weather presque
[13:55:50] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME - currently 31°F / -1°C, cloudy, wind S at 11 mph, humidity 95% - Thursday rain and snow (32°F:36°F / 0°C:2°C), Friday rain and snow (20°F:37°F / -7°C:3°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (28°F:35°F / -2°C:2°C), Sunday rain (18°F:48°F / -8°C:9°C)
[13:55:53] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[13:55:55] <exec> 10Portland, ME - currently 38°F / 3°C, cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 80% - Thursday rain (34°F:46°F / 1°C:8°C), Friday cloudy (26°F:41°F / -3°C:5°C), Saturday scattered showers (44°F:46°F / 7°C:8°C), Sunday scattered showers (28°F:52°F / -2°C:11°C)
[13:55:58] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:56:00] <exec> 10Boston, MA - currently 46°F / 8°C, light rain showers, wind SE at 12 mph, humidity 80% - Thursday rain (35°F:49°F / 2°C:9°C), Friday cloudy (30°F:43°F / -1°C:6°C), Saturday scattered showers (49°F:51°F / 9°C:11°C), Sunday scattered showers (33°F:55°F / 1°C:13°C)
[13:56:03] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[13:56:05] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD - currently 50°F / 10°C, sunny, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 68% - Thursday mostly sunny (40°F:59°F / 4°C:15°C), Friday sunny (41°F:52°F / 5°C:11°C), Saturday cloudy (46°F:58°F / 8°C:14°C), Sunday sunny (34°F:50°F / 1°C:10°C)
[13:56:08] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[13:56:09] <exec> 10Miami, FL - currently 71°F / 22°C, mostly sunny, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 92% - Thursday scattered thunderstorms (69°F:80°F / 21°C:27°C), Friday partly cloudy (69°F:79°F / 21°C:26°C), Saturday partly cloudy (68°F:81°F / 20°C:27°C), Sunday mostly sunny (67°F:82°F / 19°C:28°C)
[14:59:07] <pinchy> welcome to the weather channel
[15:00:18] <boru> Bytram; aye, but I've barely go enough cycles for non-work stuff as it is, so I was trying to garner some other interest in the BSD porter community to either adopt it, or give me a dig out.
[15:01:27] <Bytram> nod nod -- Similar boat, here. Beats me how I make the time to keep posting stories on SN... labor of love, I guess!
[15:01:54] <boru> Aye, I seriously need to get around to submitting again.
[15:02:25] <Bytram> atm, we are in pretty good chape with subs... things tend to go dry come sunday night/monday am
[15:02:31] <Bytram> s/c/s/
[15:02:55] * Bytram glances at story and sub queues
[15:06:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meteors Seen Over Arizona, Ohio, Germany, and France - http://sylnt.us - Rudolph-getting-pre-Christmas-exercise
[15:07:32] <boru> Wtf, meteors are seen around the world all the time!
[15:07:54] <boru> Sheesh, I see at least a hundred a night if I'm out imaging with my telescope.
[15:08:38] <Bytram> meteors are one thing... how many bolides do you see?
[15:09:09] <boru> Well, bolides are typically characterised by sound i.e. a sonic boom.
[15:09:15] <Bytram> yuppers
[15:09:43] <boru> I see/hear a few a year.
[15:09:49] <Bytram> lucky you!
[15:09:54] * Bytram has never seen one
[15:10:04] <boru> Not really. You just need to be away from cities.
[15:10:12] <boru> To hear the sonic boom, that is.
[15:10:40] <boru> But if you sit out most nights, you'll usually see at least one bright meteor, even a fireball.
[15:10:54] <boru> Bolides > fireballs > bright meteors
[15:11:33] <Bytram> I recall freezing my butt off one night when there was the chance of a meteor storm... seems a few hundred people in my town had the same idea to go to a nearby state park. The communal "oooohs" and "ahhhhs" was amazing!
[15:12:03] <Bytram> too much light pollution in my area. :(
[15:12:08] <boru> Yeah, I like when people go to actually look at meteor showers, instead of take pictures of them to go on some banal social media.
[15:12:20] <Bytram> picture <<< IRL
[15:12:54] <boru> Couldn't agree more. That solar eclipse in the US this year, every picture I've seen of the observers is people staring at a screen.
[15:13:32] <Bytram> I'd seen pictures of Aurora Borealis in an encyclopedia and a couple other print publications, but in no way did it ever prepare me for what it was like to see it in IRL. If you've not seen it, it should go on your bucketlist!
[15:13:54] <boru> I've seen it three times in my life.
[15:14:07] <boru> The best display was the 2003 X-class CME.
[15:14:27] <boru> Probably the closest thing we've had to a Carrington event since the original.
[15:14:41] <Bytram> as for solar eclipses, from what I've seen/read.. a total solar eclipse is a VERY different thing than a partial, even a major partial.
[15:14:57] * Bytram missed that one! :( :( :(
[15:15:14] <boru> The aurora was overhead at _35N_
[15:15:40] <Bytram> yowza!
[15:15:45] <boru> I've seen a few total solar eclipses, lots of partials, and one annular.
[15:15:49] <Bytram> do you remember what month that was
[15:15:51] <Bytram> ?
[15:16:11] <boru> End of October/start of November.
[15:16:42] <boru> 4th of November, 2003.
[15:16:48] <boru> X28
[15:17:26] <Bytram> ahhh, that 'splains it. Was a particularly "challenging" time in my life, then... 'nuf said about that.
[15:17:32] <boru> I was outside with my telescope when it arrived with no clue that it had happened other than a radio blackout.
[15:17:39] <Bytram> lol
[15:17:52] <Bytram> I'm happy you got to see it!!!!!
[15:18:09] <boru> "Wtf is that light pollution coming from..." *looking around, look up* "Oh."
[15:18:16] <Bytram> ROFL!!!!
[15:18:57] <boru> Three emissions, too; atomic oxygen, molecular oxygen and nitrogen. Red, green and pink/purple.
[15:19:18] <Bytram> I've been keeping an eye on the last line of this page; is that a reasonable way to easily keep abreast of the chances? ftp://ftp.swpc.noaa.gov
[15:19:47] <boru> I didn't own a decent camera for nearly most of the astronomical phenomenae in my lifetime, alas.
[15:20:02] <boru> Aye, SWPC is usually your best bet.
[15:20:25] <Bytram> we just had that discussion -- would not do it justice, and while trying to do all the photography, would prolly miss out on fully enjoying the experience in the moment.
[15:20:27] <boru> Any of the solar observatories, too: SDO, SOHO, STEREO, SWIFT etc.
[15:21:10] <Bytram> heh... that would be an interesting thing to add to SN... Aurora forecast!
[15:21:12] <boru> Yeah, absolutely. I do a lot of scientific imaging as a hobby, usually looking for supernovae in our galaxy, but while the imaging rig is running, I just sit back with a cigar and look up.
[15:21:31] <Bytram> that prolly works better than looking down.
[15:21:32] <boru> Check out the data on the left column on spaceweather.com
[15:21:33] <Bytram> ;)
[15:21:41] <boru> In more ways than one, yes.
[15:21:54] <boru> If ever you want to get some perspective, look up, imho.
[15:24:32] <Bytram> personally, I'd prefer to get the perspective from looking down at Earth... from the moon. =)
[15:25:01] <boru> I'd prefer to deorbit the moon.
[15:25:11] <boru> And ablate the Earth's atmosphere.
[15:25:15] <Bytram> where would you send it?
[15:25:17] <boru> I could image every night then!
[15:25:25] <Bytram> it would prolly do a number on our tides, too.
[15:25:36] <boru> The tides have it coming.
[15:25:43] <Bytram> and going, too.
[15:25:51] <boru> Beat me to it.
[15:26:08] <boru> I don't give a ship about the tides.
[15:26:20] <boru> I'll just wave goodbye to them.
[15:26:25] <Bytram> ever been to the "Bay of Fundy" ??
[15:26:43] <boru> I've not.
[15:27:15] <Bytram> me neither. is definitely on my one of the these days if I have the time and money, I'd certainly like to check it out
[15:28:18] <Bytram> reminds me that I've been curious how things go during winter when there is sea ice AND tides crushing things together... I bet it can get really loud!
[15:33:19] <boru> I'd say it's pretty amazing, alright.
[15:34:07] <Bytram> I've been doing a quick search for web cams... keeping finding sites jammed up with Javascript. :(
[15:34:11] <Bytram> Finally found this: https://www.webcams.travel
[15:34:14] <exec> └─ 13Fullscreen — Bay of Fundy › South-West
[15:35:36] <boru> Neat
[15:35:57] <Bytram> I recall seeing pics from better angles... but that was several years ago. :/
[15:36:10] <Bytram> sill looking
[15:37:50] <Bytram> good background info here: https://www.bayoffundy.com
[15:37:52] <exec> └─ 13Bay of Fundy Tides: The Highest Tides in the World!
[15:52:19] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[15:52:21] <exec> └─ 1350ft tides in Burntcoat Head Park, Nova Scotia - YouTube
[15:52:23] <Bytram> break time
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[17:00:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time x
[17:00:15] <exec> Thursday, 16 November 2017 @ 5:00 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[17:00:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> 5:00 PM? Must be time to go home.
[17:07:03] <Bytram> !woop
[17:07:03] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[17:09:33] * Bytram figured out how to 'backup' emails for one of my email accounts in Thunderbird! Under "Local Folders" created a new folder with the email address 'nick' as its name, searched for emails I wanted to backup, did a "select all" on those, and moved them to the new local folder. Yays!
[17:10:36] * Bytram saw his remote email usage go from 94% of 50MB quota on mailserver to just a few kB!
[17:11:32] <Bytram> now about to upgrade Pale Moon from v27.6.0 to v27.6.1
[17:11:39] * Bytram crosses his fingers
[17:12:36] * Bytram backs up sessions using session manager and shuts down pale moon
[17:13:19] * Bytram launches installer
[17:15:10] * Bytram selects custom install to be careful of any shenanigans, but ends up accepting all defaults and launches new version of Pale Moon
[17:15:19] * Bytram restores last session
[17:15:21] <Bytram> voila!
[17:17:48] <Bytram> time to make some lunch
[17:17:51] <Bytram> .afk
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[18:05:17] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 19°C/66°F, 3:05 pm GMT-3, Thursday, 16 November 2017
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[18:08:04] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 7°C/44°F, 10:08 am PST, Thursday, 16 November 2017
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[18:14:26] <Sulla> I want to buy these coin things but how the hell does this work.
[18:14:55] <Sulla> Had a wallet years ago with 10btc on it but that computer was reformated when they werent worth anything
[18:15:03] <Sulla> Now want to get back into it
[18:16:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - University Could Lose Millions From “Unethical” Research Backed by Peter Thiel - http://sylnt.us - its-the-way-that-you-do-it
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[18:37:40] <Bytram> time to get some things done... may check back in later
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[22:53:51] <mrpg> i ate 2 hamburgers today. i am full.
[22:54:09] <mrpg> bad bacteria but im used to it. to eat. to eat it.
[23:04:33] <chromas> I wonder if extensions can crash in firefox 57
[23:05:02] <chromas> Treestyle Tabs just flashed and recreated all the tabs like it just started
[23:06:52] <mrpg> maybe the sandboxing is not perfect.
[23:09:01] <chromas> If it did crash, that's pretty neat. Better than the whole browser crashing like before.
[23:36:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrpg, how dare you besmirch the good name of the hamburger?!
[23:37:26] <mrpg> you didnt eat where I did, roadside in the skid row.
[23:37:45] <mrpg> but they were good no problem.
[23:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> just think of it as a workout for your immune system then.
[23:46:46] <mrpg> i live in south america, what doesnt kill me makes me hungrier.