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[01:24:44] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, 20°C/68°F, 8:24 pm CDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
[01:25:57] <Runaway1956> collissions of Fitzgerald and McCain have been hashed and rehashed by the Nave
[01:26:17] <Runaway1956> it has been determined that incompetence ruled at multiple levels
[01:26:41] <Runaway1956> official report is out in PDF form, and I'm browsing it now
[01:26:54] <Runaway1956> https://assets.documentcloud.org
[01:30:27] <Sulla> That makes me sad
[01:30:38] <Sulla> Here I thought we had a navy report on mccains incompetence
[01:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Now this is a damned manly way to go if you're contemplating suicide: https://www.rt.com
[01:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake upstart
[01:31:46] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with a peaceful #BLM protest
[01:31:49] <upstart> ^ 03Chainsaw suicide: Police called to domestic brawl find gruesome scene — RT US News
[01:35:36] <upstart> I've got the performance of systemd
[01:35:54] <Deucalion> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[01:35:54] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a box of chelsea fasteners
[01:36:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Deucalion
[01:36:15] * exec inadequately culturally enriches a triply-linked list of blood thinners with Deucalion
[01:36:55] <chromas> You're an enrichment, sir
[01:37:14] <Deucalion> Sup carrion feaster?
[01:37:19] <Sulla> "Diversity visa program"
[01:37:35] <chromas> Wouldn't that be american express?
[01:38:56] <Sulla> Kek
[01:41:18] <Sulla> So I dont know anything about new york, but how does a guy f up so bad that his truck of peace only gets 8?
[01:41:30] <Sulla> Isnt ny swarming with people
[01:43:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, nada much. catching up on news since my net connection's been up n down all day. gave up early and read a book.
[01:45:41] <Deucalion> What's new in the news? Mad suicide bastards offing themselves in inglorious ways?
[01:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there's the guy who took maddox's advice and offed himself by headbutting a chainsaw
[01:47:28] <Deucalion> sounds messy
[01:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> twitter busted for censoring #PodestaEmails tweets during election season
[01:49:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> #DNCLeaks as well
[01:49:16] <Deucalion> what are you electing for now? Seems like it's always election season
[01:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh last year during the presidental stuff
[01:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> this is officially confirmed by them under oath though
[01:52:31] <Deucalion> Sure it wasn't the Russians or N Koreans under false flag putting out fake news in a triple reverse bluff???? Yeh, it was likely that.
[01:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4% of the combined hashtag usage was from anyone remotely connectable to russia
[01:54:36] <Deucalion> by whose measurement? how do you attribute anything to anyone these days?
[01:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really more interested in this though: http://www.securityweek.com
[01:54:38] <upstart> ^ 03Open Whisper Systems Launches Encrypted Messaging App for Desktop | SecurityWeek.Com
[01:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> twitter's
[01:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone with anything in their info hinting they might be russian, ever used an ip from russia, or ever used their funky letters in a tweet
[01:56:00] <Sulla> Kind of mad russia never sent me a check
[01:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> really? they pay me like 5x what SN does every month.
[01:56:50] <Deucalion> You must be rolling in notes
[01:57:01] <Runaway1956> Well, I haven't really "digested" that collision report, but I see nothing surprising in it
[01:57:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> only the sticky ones with my passwords on them
[01:57:20] <Runaway1956> Time for work, I'll mull what I've read on the drive
[01:57:27] <Sulla> I liked that post you made. 5 x 0 being 0
[01:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:57:44] <Sulla> I wonder if I can get ShareBlue to post lib prop on soylent
[01:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should get them to sign up and post it regularly as journal entries
[01:58:33] * TheMightyBuzzard guns his trolling motor
[01:58:35] <Deucalion> Hi n bai Runaway1956 o/
[01:58:38] <Sulla> That would be enjoyable
[02:00:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight. i need a smoke then it's bedtime. yall have a pleasant, restful evening.
[02:00:35] <Sulla> Have a good smoke
[02:00:53] <Deucalion> Have a good sleep
[02:02:08] <Deucalion> ~weather
[02:02:10] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 44°F / 7°C, clear, wind SW at 3 mph, humidity 94% - partly cloudy (41°F:60°F / 5°C:16°C), mostly cloudy (46°F:56°F / 8°C:13°C), mostly cloudy (50°F:56°F / 10°C:13°C), rain (39°F:53°F / 4°C:12°C)
[02:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aliens May be More Like Us Than We Think - http://sylnt.us - sasquatch++
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[02:22:29] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 10°C/50°F, 7:22 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[02:49:22] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 10°C/50°F, 7:49 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[03:15:50] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 10°C/50°F, 8:15 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[03:31:52] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 11°C/51°F, 8:31 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[03:37:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Technology Seeks to Preserve Fading Skill: Braille Literacy - http://sylnt.us - BraileToSpeech++
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[03:38:03] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 10°C/50°F, 8:38 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[03:51:29] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 10°C/50°F, 8:51 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
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[05:16:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nurse Who Was Arrested in Utah Receives Half Million Dollar Settlement - http://sylnt.us - in-soviet-russia-you-pay-nurse
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[06:41:03] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 9°C/49°F, 11:41 pm PDT, Wednesday, 1 November 2017
[06:41:49] <chromas> ~g'day exec
[06:41:51] * exec retroactively fires a hugbox of b-trees at exec
[06:45:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rylo: A $500 360-Degree Camera With Image Stabilization - http://sylnt.us - its-like-you-have-eyes-in-the-back-of-your-head
[08:27:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Q4OS: A Very Flexible Linux Distro - Review - http://sylnt.us - still-supports-i586
[09:56:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Rose 0.82% in 2016; Methane Rose as Well - http://sylnt.us - too-much-fizzy-cola
[10:36:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:36:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3730
[11:27:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Engineer Installs Google Chrome During Presentation After Edge Freezes - http://sylnt.us - edge-cases
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[13:06:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Phone App That Listens to Your Car and Could Warn of Impending Trouble - http://sylnt.us - squealing-kid-not-serpentine-belt
[14:03:59] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:03:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3731
[14:04:07] <Bytram> flakeyconnection--
[14:04:07] <Bender> karma - flakeyconnection: -1
[14:04:12] <boru> whiskey++
[14:04:12] <Bender> karma - whiskey: 17
[14:04:28] <boru> devicetree--
[14:04:28] <Bender> karma - devicetree: -1
[14:05:18] <Bytram> lol
[14:05:29] <Bytram> hmmm... what is a 'device tree' ??
[14:05:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's a thing in Microsuck Winders
[14:05:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> that shows how all your devices are connected
[14:05:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:06:04] <Bytram> device manager??
[14:06:05] <boru> Quite the opposite: https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:06:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm kind of amazed that I remember that...
[14:06:37] * Bytram remembers the days of TSRs being a big thing
[14:07:18] <boru> Board wire mod required some extra GPIO fiddliness.
[14:07:33] <Bytram> to support a new device, one had to hook an interrupt and insert your own handler to service it.
[14:07:44] <boru> That's fine.
[14:07:47] <Bytram> programming with solder, eh?
[14:07:59] <boru> Partially.
[14:08:23] * Bytram misses Byte magazine's ciarcia's cellar column
[14:08:32] <boru> Bare metal is my bread and butter, not this full fat OS lark.
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[14:08:58] <Bytram> *chuckles*
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[14:09:46] * boru goes for a grumpy walk to make coffee.
[14:10:40] <Bytram> sounds like a plan... /me needs to get more coffee++ too
[14:11:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> tea++
[14:11:17] <Bender> karma - tea: 579
[14:12:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> sup, J-Node?
[14:26:24] <Bytram> ~ping 72.14.185.204
[14:26:35] <Bytram> was worth a shot
[14:27:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> /exec - -o ping -c 1 72.14.185.204
[14:27:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...I'm not actually sure how well that's going to work.
[14:27:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> PING 72.14.185.204 (72.14.185.204) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:27:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> 64 bytes from 72.14.185.204: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=37.3 ms
[14:27:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> --- 72.14.185.204 ping statistics ---
[14:27:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
[14:27:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 37.399/37.399/37.399/0.000 ms
[14:27:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> Actually pretty well.
[14:27:55] <Bytram> Huh!!
[14:28:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> (that's if you're using irssi, BTW - I suspect that it will work in weechat as well, no idea about other clients)
[14:28:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> PING soylentnews.org (45.56.123.192) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:28:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> 64 bytes from li941-192.members.linode.com (45.56.123.192): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=41.4 ms
[14:28:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> --- soylentnews.org ping statistics ---
[14:28:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
[14:28:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 41.488/41.488/41.488/0.000 ms
[14:29:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, the site is up!
[14:29:10] <Bytram> LOL
[14:29:20] * Bytram uses HexChat
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[14:30:15] <Bytram> ;)
[14:30:20] <Bytram> break time... afk
[14:37:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The DNC is Hiring IT Staff. Allegedly, Cisgendered Straight White Males Need Not Apply. - http://sylnt.us - queue-eeoc-audit
[14:44:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> hey, isn't that one I submitted?
[14:44:37] <Sulla> Hard to remember where I saw articles first anymore, soylent or /pol/
[14:45:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Nope...I did submit it to Politifact.com for review, though.
[14:48:10] <boru> What's the DNC?
[14:48:20] <Bytram> Democratic National Committee
[14:48:27] <Bytram> ~define DNC
[14:48:28] <exec> DNC: unable to find definition
[14:48:32] <Bytram> lol
[14:48:35] <Bytram> ~g DNC
[14:48:37] <exec> [google] https://www.democrats.org
[14:48:57] <boru> Oh, that lot.
[14:49:12] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:06:56] <Runaway1956> Oh, my bad - I should have put a trigger warning, lol
[15:07:03] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[15:09:20] <Sulla> Well in all fairness generation zyklon is more conservative than the boomers
[15:14:47] <Bytram> Runaway1956: just wanted to take a sec to thank you for all the computes you contributed to our Folding@Home team; you're number 3 on the team stats! http://fah-web2.stanford.edu
[15:14:49] <Bytram> and...
[15:14:53] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[15:14:54] <exec> 07247
[15:15:20] <Runaway1956> ty Bytram
[15:15:22] <Bytram> that's our team's place versus approximate a quarter million teams in the *world*
[15:15:36] <Bytram> no, thank YOU!!!
[15:15:40] <Runaway1956> I finally had to kill it, 'cause my aging hardware kept running hot
[15:15:59] <Bytram> was wondering what had happened. sorry to hear that.
[15:16:18] <Bytram> too bad there was no way to 'throttle' it to, say, 50% or somesuch.
[15:16:34] <Runaway1956> I keep telling myself it's time to build a new machine, but i just keep getting sidetrcked
[15:16:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:16:57] <Bytram> thinking about going Intel or AMD?
[15:18:38] <Runaway1956> AMD - I have issues with Intel's entire business model, TBH
[15:19:10] <Runaway1956> Publish a compiler, that only optimizes code if it's running on an intel chip? Phhhhtttt.
[15:21:14] <Bytram> was not aware of that... but I do well recall their less-than-entirely business practices wrt monopoly-type activites
[15:22:23] <Bytram> now that you mention it, I just noticed my lappy has been running warm, so I just vacuumed out the keyboard... let's see if that helps with ventilation / cooling
[15:22:53] <Bytram> sounds quieter atm... yays!
[15:22:58] <Runaway1956> Did you find my kid's weed that he spilled?
[15:23:18] <cmn32480> was that what we found in that baggie in the font yeard?
[15:23:39] <Runaway1956> He was worried about that - if the laptop runs warm the aroma might waft out into the yard.
[15:23:51] <cmn32480> this was a big ole nugget....
[15:23:51] <Bytram> lol
[15:23:58] <Bytram> cmn32480: prolly a dog turd
[15:24:14] <Runaway1956> Don't smoke the nugget . . .
[15:24:16] * cmn32480 is quite sure he can tell the difference
[15:27:20] <Bytram> to me, they smell about the same... just a whiff of it and I want to violently puke
[15:27:38] * Bytram has 'interesting' neighbors
[15:28:35] <Runaway1956> 38-28-36 interesting?
[15:28:41] <Bytram> nope
[15:28:59] <Bytram> hack hack cough cough COUGH!!! HACK!!!
[15:29:41] <Runaway1956> Mmmm - everyoe at work is doing that. I told them that I'd like to take the flu shot, but I was allergic to needles.
[15:30:36] * Bytram was at doc for another issue, before Iknew it, I'd been given both a flu shot AND a tetanus shot... toook a week to recover from those
[15:31:31] <Sulla> Runaway: Thats my wifes measurement.
[15:31:35] <Sulla> Flu shots are a scam
[15:31:39] <Runaway1956> The thing is, the last tetanus died in New Zealand about 80 years ago. They're extinct.
[15:31:54] <Sulla> Didnt work this year in australia from what I heard
[15:31:59] <Runaway1956> I like your wife already Sulla
[15:34:39] <Sulla> Pre-preggers. So should be able to return to that soon.
[15:35:47] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh. My wife returned to her pre-pregnant measurements - almost - the first time. Second time, she missed by a little more. Third time - well, apparently it gets harder each time.
[15:36:12] <Sulla> Haha
[15:36:16] <cmn32480> ^^^ what he said!
[15:36:27] <Sulla> Mine just turned 30, so second pregnancy will be last one
[15:36:30] <Runaway1956> I'm gratefl that she didn't use them as excuses to imitate the goodyear blimb
[15:36:53] <Sulla> Hah
[15:37:14] <Sulla> In general pregnancy makes that first number increase, so I will live with the consequences
[15:38:56] <Sulla> More people need to mod serious comments funny
[15:42:18] <Bytram> ~nelson
[15:42:19] <exec> 03: HA! HA!
[15:46:06] <Bytram> well, time to get myself going about my day, even though I feel less than zero motivation... "move a muscle -- change a thought"
[15:46:19] <Bytram> laters!
[15:53:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.digitaltrends.com
[15:53:59] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[15:54:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~submit https://www.digitaltrends.com
[15:54:13] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[16:26:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Cracking Down on Unsubstantiated Cannabidiol Health Claims - http://sylnt.us - it-cures-everything
[16:59:13] * TheMightyBuzzard chomps down on an entire can of refried beans loaded up with a buttload of jalapenos
[17:00:17] <SoyGuest64926> sounds a bit vegetarian
[17:00:30] <Sulla> Barely even american
[17:01:09] <Sulla> More of this alt-animal propaganda
[17:01:10] <SoyGuest64926> I thought he's moved to Sanfran for a minute
[17:01:28] <SoyGuest64926> I can just imagine a Buzzard with flowers in his hair
[17:01:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> Nah, you have to get the low-fat refried beans if you want vegetarian - the normal variety is fried in beef fat.
[17:02:11] <Sulla> Sounds like fake news andy
[17:02:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> has nothing to do with vegetables. i just want to make The Roomie's boy child think i've shat upon him later this afternoon.
[17:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> the jalapenos are for sinus-clearing purposes
[17:04:57] Sulla is now known as Marius
[17:06:09] * TheMightyBuzzard sprinkles some bacon on his lunch just for the fart-fodder haters
[17:10:42] <Marius> Thats not what Sullas journal will read
[17:10:50] <Marius> And we all know nobody reads the irc
[17:10:54] Marius is now known as Sulla
[17:15:06] <Sulla> I realize everyone sees the now known as, thats the joke.
[17:15:16] <Sulla> Now need arist to write a je so I can rip it off
[18:07:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IQ of Nations - http://sylnt.us - maybe-they-only-surveyed-the-nimnobs
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[18:54:46] <takyon> ~submit http://www.sciencemag.org
[18:54:56] <takyon> #submit http://www.sciencemag.org
[18:54:56] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:55:20] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[18:55:21] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:55:30] <takyon> #submit https://www.theverge.com
[18:55:30] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:55:56] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:56:09] <takyon> #submit http://www.sciencemag.org
[18:56:09] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:56:35] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:56:41] <takyon> #submit https://www.princeton.edu
[18:56:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:57:07] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:57:18] <takyon> #submit https://sciencealert.com
[18:57:19] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[18:57:23] <takyon> #submit http://www.spaceflightinsider.com
[18:57:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:57:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:58:00] <takyon> #submit http://www.firstpost.com
[18:58:00] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:58:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:58:28] <takyon> #submit https://www.theverge.com
[18:58:28] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[18:59:31] <takyon> #submit https://www.nextbigfuture.com
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[19:08:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> Everything about the F-35 is over budget and behind schedule
[19:08:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Any sane Congresscritter would insist that it be killed
[19:10:29] <cmn32480> see... there si your problem.
[19:10:32] <cmn32480> they aren't sane
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[19:17:03] <boru> You could say the same about the James Webb Space Telescope.
[19:19:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> We're only building one JWST, thought. Not thousands.
[19:25:20] <boru> They're both programs, and the F-35 will have monetary return on investment.
[19:25:40] <boru> Playing devil's advocate here, in case that's not obvious.
[19:27:30] <boru> I'd much rather see the Oded Yinon plan/Israeli MIC destructed and that money pumped into NASA projects.
[19:27:55] <boru> NOAA, too, who also seem horrendously underfunded at the moment...
[19:28:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> "monetary return on investment" in the case of ANY government program would result in lowering of taxes. I don't see a path for that to happen with either the F-35 or the JWST...but at least the JWST won't be used to attack people who don't have anything against America, thereby turning their kids into future terrorists.
[19:28:58] <boru> You're digressing from the point completely.
[19:29:08] <boru> < AndyTheAbsurd> Everything about the F-35 is over budget and behind schedule
[19:29:25] <boru> I was just commenting that the JWST also falls into this category.
[19:35:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Well, you don't kill government programs just because they're behind schedule and over budget - that's *every* government program. But the F-35 has also proved more costly to operate than expected, with more down time than planned, and those are very likely going to be an ongoing issues for as long as we're using them.
[19:35:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> But once the JWST is up, we're only going to pay for ground stations to receive the data and a few scientists to analyze it.
[19:37:11] <boru> SUre, but once the F-35 is good to go, people will start buying them. They're already buying them, even.
[19:37:30] <boru> One of those is probably a entire years worth of observation fees for the JWST.
[19:37:35] <boru> See what I'm getting at?
[19:38:15] <boru> I agree whole-heartedly that it's the F-22 all over again, but it'll generate more ROE than the JWST by orders of magnitude.
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[20:40:54] <Bytram> ~time x
[20:40:57] <exec> Thursday, 2 November 2017 @ 8:40 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[20:41:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Navajo Reservation
[20:41:50] <exec> Thursday, 2 November 2017 @ 2:41 pm MDT - Navajo Nation Reservation, Utah
[20:42:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~time Phoenix, AZ
[20:42:13] <exec> Thursday, 2 November 2017 @ 1:42 pm MST - Phoenix, AZ
[20:42:55] * Bytram just likes the fact that Timex is a well-known name for reasonably inexpensive and durable time pieces that also reminds me how to get the time in UTC with a minimal amount of typing.
[20:43:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> There is a Timex watch on my wrist right now.
[20:43:28] <Bytram> kewel!
[20:43:36] <Bytram> what model? (if you don't mind my asking)
[20:43:43] * Bytram guesses it's an expedition
[20:44:00] <Bytram> either that or an ironman model of some sort
[20:44:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> It is an Expedition!
[20:44:26] <Sulla> Wearing watches in 2017
[20:45:15] <Bytram> I *knew* it!
[20:45:35] * Bytram has sold watches (and jewelry) for over a dozen years
[20:45:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's not quite this, but a very similar one: https://www.amazon.com
[20:46:37] <Bytram> watches have the benefit that one can monitor the time without having to pull out one's phone and, thereby, tipping off one's boss that this meeting is BORING or that you can't wait until this chick flick is OVER!
[20:46:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> The actual watch hardware looks to be the same, but it's a different band and different color.
[20:47:11] <Bytram> it has the canvas-ish strap? or all 'rubber' ??
[20:47:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> rubber back, "cloth" top to the band
[20:47:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:48:03] * Bytram wears a 10+ year old Seiko... lemme see if I can find a pic
[20:49:50] <Bytram> https://www.amazon.com
[20:51:07] <Bytram> titanium is AMAZING! I'd be willing to bet that my watch weighs no more than your Expedition, the crustal is gouged out a bit (I'm an occasional klutz), but there's hardly a scratch on the band or the bezel.
[20:54:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> Anybody got a Nerf RaptorStrike blaster handy?
[21:01:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: *this* is the exact one I wear daily: https://www.amazon.com
[21:01:57] <Bytram> clicky
[21:03:38] <Bytram> yuppers... nice one. I'm old enough to remember when a mechanical watch (no battery -- just springs and gears) was pretty much the only choice... if you could get accuracy to better than a couple minutes a month, you were starting to enter 'expensive watch' category.
[21:05:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> now I want a B&W LCD "smart-ish" watch in that style.
[21:06:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which no one is willing to make because the market is probably 200 people worldwide, which is not enough to justify development costs.
[21:06:48] <Bytram> lost me there... in which 'style' are you talking/ old-skool mechanical watch?
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[21:07:39] <Bytram> we are getting there, but the craze to pack more and more features into a smart watch, and given the state of the tech at the moment, one ends up with a freakishly large watch with limited battery life.
[21:08:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> no, the style of the Timex I'm wearing. Fairly basic digital display, and handful of buttons that do all do *useful* things, and that type of band.
[21:08:12] <Bytram> at one point, it looked like pebble was heading in the right direction, and then fitbit bought them out, and dropped the line
[21:08:34] * Bytram guesses they just wanted to leverage the devs more than any given existing product
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[21:34:04] * SoyGuest64926 reminisces about the old self-winding Rodaniahe used to have. 1960's, I think.
[21:34:35] <SoyGuest64926> still on the lookout for a replacement
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