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[00:06:35] <exec> welcome AndyTheAbsurd: Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA, 27°C/80°F, 8:06 pm GMT-4, Saturday, 21 October 2017
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[00:18:20] <exec> welcome AndyTheAbsurd: Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA, 27°C/80°F, 8:18 pm GMT-4, Saturday, 21 October 2017
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[00:24:50] <exec> welcome AndyTheAbsurd: Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA, 27°C/80°F, 8:24 pm GMT-4, Saturday, 21 October 2017
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[00:27:17] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 23°C/73°F, 5:27 pm GMT-7, Saturday, 21 October 2017
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[00:27:37] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 23°C/73°F, 5:27 pm GMT-7, Saturday, 21 October 2017
[00:27:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Hello gentlemen.
[00:28:10] <Ethanol-fueled> hey crutchy, do you use SIEMENS NX?
[00:28:52] <Ethanol-fueled> well, i guess I'd be a retard to expect a timely response.
[00:29:06] <chromas> Haven't seen crutchy in weeks :(
[00:29:39] <Ethanol-fueled> That's too bad. Hope the bastard's okay.
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[00:30:06] <Ethanol-fueled> might have to learn pascal for an upcoming gig
[00:30:34] <Ethanol-fueled> tell ya what, hoss, I used to hate Python and now after actually using it a lot I hate everything else
[00:30:59] <Ethanol-fueled> dat openCV do
[00:32:27] <chromas> pascal, eh. Like ancient pascal or a modern variant?
[00:32:59] <Ethanol-fueled> it's in a self-contained stepper motor, recent product
[00:33:45] <chromas> ooh. I didn't know it was being used for embedded stuff
[00:34:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. Another stepper model in use there uses a form of BASIC but I've already seen that shit before in HP INstrument BASIC
[00:34:44] <Ethanol-fueled> About the PASCAL motor I had to ask twice because I thought the engineer was fucking with me.
[00:36:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Pascal don't look so bad.
[00:36:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Not like shit Scala and Swift
[00:37:28] <chromas> Yeah, it's sorta C-ish, but totally different
[00:37:38] <chromas> Ya gots ta declare your variables 'n' sheeit
[00:37:49] <chromas> in their own little block
[00:40:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Check this out: this is the shittiest hack you
[00:40:32] <Ethanol-fueled> you've ever heard. I'm building a prototype of an electromechanical art piece that responds to human gestures.
[00:41:11] <chromas> What's the sensor? a Kinect?
[00:41:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Because I don't have a lot of time to get it built because artists are retards, I'm using both a kinect and a webcam (the kinect for easy depth and gesture recognition, the webcam/python for video and RS-485
[00:42:31] <chromas> Make it do its best to fire a bird whenever it can't recognize a gesture
[00:42:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't yet know how to get C# playing nice with Python (and don't have enough time to investigate IronPython so I'm having both the C# crap and the python crap communicate with each other by having the C# writing a file to the desktop and the python reading it
[00:42:53] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
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[00:43:54] <chromas> Use the registry for IPC :D
[00:44:03] <Ethanol-fueled> the most hilarious part is that it's a blank file. All the python does is check for the file's presence
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[00:44:13] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, I'm not at that skill level
[00:44:33] <Ethanol-fueled> my coding nuts haven't even dropped yet
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[00:45:19] <exec> welcome AndyTheAbsurd: Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA, 27°C/80°F, 8:45 pm GMT-4, Saturday, 21 October 2017
[00:45:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I know you were kidding with the registry part but still
[00:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Used to like c# but it's getting more retarded as Microsoft starts to accelerate the planned obsolescence of their products and languages
[00:49:19] <Ethanol-fueled> You wouldn't believe how fucking convoluted it is to take a video frame, convert it to greyscale, and convert that to a 2-D array with some interpolation algorithms etc.
[00:49:39] <Ethanol-fueled> in python that can be done in 3 lines.
[00:49:58] <chromas> Do they have an ffmpeg library?
[00:50:24] <Ethanol-fueled> the problem is that the kinect is mega-proprietary and that applies to the code as well
[00:50:44] <Ethanol-fueled> (b-but there are hacks to get the kinect working with python! I read them all online!)
[00:50:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, good luck actually get them working in a timely manner, buddy.
[00:51:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Because fucking artists promise their customers that -- no joke -- they can get an AR app done in a week. Not even with image targets, but recognizing structures such as staircases based on the 3-D models
[00:55:18] <Ethanol-fueled> If I weren't worried about blowing my real-life cover, I'd offer the opportunity to you all. People like NCommander seem to like that kind of figuring-out and the boss is willing to drop thousands of bucks at the drop of a hat for somebody competent.
[00:55:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus you'd get to work with a lot of hot babes, or sensitive well-groomed gentlemen, if that is your taste.
[00:56:44] <chromas> I'm sure NC would keep your cover
[00:57:40] <chromas> Just come in under a different nick. "Hi guys, I have a project similar to EF's but I'm totally not him. Anyone wanna take a crack at it?"
[00:58:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, because I have a fat fucking mouth, cover is blown.
[00:59:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I still might message him but I get the feeling that he always has interesting work to do.
[00:59:40] * chromas digs into backlog to find ef's nudes and face pics
[00:59:47] <Ethanol-fueled> well, that's okay.
[00:59:52] <Ethanol-fueled> that doesn't bug me.
[01:00:00] <Ethanol-fueled> dick pics too
[01:00:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking artists, man. They don't understand coding and electronics. They expect a new feature every fucking day, and think that to add a new one you can just change the code on the spot
[01:01:24] <Ethanol-fueled> And when you're good at being an artist the industry is cutthroat as fuck
[01:04:20] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm actually handing off that gig to an aerospace/systems guy.
[01:04:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I've reached the limits of what I can do in a timely manner, now it's back to being a corporate whore, soon, hopefully.
[01:05:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Yep, Boston Dynamics man...you wouldn't believe the horror that is that place.
[01:06:23] <chromas> Isn't that the one google bought and sold?
[01:06:51] <chromas> Did they add a CoC before selling it?
[01:07:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Yep. They opened a satellite office in North San Diego hoping to get military contracts, but that didn't work out and so we're desperate for work
[01:07:48] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, what is a CoC?
[01:07:55] <chromas> code of conduct
[01:08:44] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, when they sold it, we knew we were toast and didn't bother reading the paperwork or abiding by new regulations. the short answer is, I don't know.
[01:08:55] <chromas> lol
[01:09:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Anyway, this satellite location is on life-support and was saved by an unlikely ally -- the art industry
[01:09:46] <Ethanol-fueled> electromechanical art is a rising trend
[01:10:09] <Ethanol-fueled> We're actually doing back towards steampunk and generally more primitive stuff but with a modern twist
[01:10:21] <Ethanol-fueled> remember the coke ad with the electromechanical actuators? that kind of shit.
[01:11:31] * chromas doesn't remember
[01:11:34] <Ethanol-fueled> the only problem is that a lot of this stuff has very poor documentation, and much of it is made in Europe.
[01:12:01] <Ethanol-fueled> So now there's a lot of reverse-engineering involved.
[01:12:36] <chromas> B-but that violates the EULA!
[01:14:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, in our case it doesn't
[01:14:47] <Ethanol-fueled> teh documentation just fucking sucks
[01:15:41] <Ethanol-fueled> for the "project" i'm working on I basically had to reverse-engineer a custom RS-485 comms protocol
[01:26:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, figgit.
[01:27:02] <Ethanol-fueled> fuggit.
[01:27:06] <chromas> that sounds like fun though
[01:27:13] <Ethanol-fueled> It's not.
[01:27:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Everybody tells me, "oh that sounds so cool"
[01:27:59] <Ethanol-fueled> But at the end of the day I'm the kind of person who needs to feel like I got work done. And now 80-90% of my time is just fighting my gear and software.
[01:28:01] <chromas> better than cloudscale nodes.js crap
[01:29:22] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, well, I wouldn't know, but thanks for the heads-up
[01:29:34] <Ethanol-fueled> there is a lot of good to be said for working with actual physical products.
[01:33:03] * chromas sneaks into ef's office and takes over pascal duties
[01:33:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Not quite yet, chromas.
[01:34:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I can do the motor stuff, no question
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[01:35:46] <Ethanol-fueled> sup buzzbomb. long time no see
[01:36:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, just fuckin off. watchin the defenders.
[01:36:08] <Ethanol-fueled> original skittles are best skittles
[01:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> how's your crusade against the brown menace goin?
[01:37:23] <Ethanol-fueled> that went well, but now I suspect I will have to crusade against the White menace...
[01:37:30] <Ethanol-fueled> ...GENTRIFICATION.
[01:38:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[01:39:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm all in favor of that. po people got no business living in the big city. it's too expensive.
[01:39:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. Have to give Whites a lecture about why I get offended when their dogs shit on the side of my house when their complex parking lot (and dumpster for disposing of doggy-doo) is literally 10 feet away
[01:40:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I agree, Buzz. But for a number of reasons I'm stuck here for the time being.
[01:40:23] <chromas> that's their white privilege in effect
[01:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> goofy bastards. you don't keep pets in the city.
[01:40:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should go shit on their lawn. see how they like it.
[01:40:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, you do...the only problem is that city pets are abherrations of nature which shouldn't even exist.
[01:41:01] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: but who will work in the kitchens of restaurants?
[01:41:02] <Ethanol-fueled> chihuahas. Pugs.
[01:41:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, I actually used to pick up dog shit and throw it right in front of their gate where they would step on it
[01:41:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, people who get paid enough to not be poor. or the well off fuckers can cook their own damned meals.
[01:41:43] <Ethanol-fueled> then peek through my window and watch them step on it
[01:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[01:42:23] <Ethanol-fueled> because fucking hipster gates are privacy gates, which means that nobody can see in, but they can't see out
[01:42:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHA
[01:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> still not as satisfying as blowing some green-apple splatters on their doorstep.
[01:42:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, if I get my hands on another spud-gun, I will be arrested for its use.
[01:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define green apple splatters
[01:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake exec
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[01:43:21] <Ethanol-fueled> (RUH-ROh)
[01:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g green apple splatters
[01:43:42] <MrPlow> http://www.urbandictionary.com - "\"Dude, I was at the park the other day after I ate a bowl of my dad's chilli and I didn't make it to the toilet in time. Green apple splatters, it looked like thanksgiving ..."
[01:43:57] <exec> green apple splatters: unable to find definition
[01:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> odd, i thought he searched ud
[01:44:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzard, I already went toe to toe with a navy guy who lived there
[01:44:18] <chromas> used tp
[01:44:22] <chromas> to
[01:44:40] <Ethanol-fueled> we didn't fight, but I was pretty wasted and called the fucker a "government welfare queen fighting bullshit wars for oil"
[01:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> how da fuck a navy guy afford fancy digs?
[01:45:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzard, he had a bitch who probbaly had a job, and he's aircrew so he probably gets flight pay
[01:45:30] <Ethanol-fueled> well, i wouldn't call the digs "fancy."
[01:45:58] <Ethanol-fueled> but they kicked out all the residents, gentrified the complex, and...WORST OF ALL FOR A CITY...marketed it as "dog-friendly"
[01:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg
[01:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> city folks got no business having a dog if they don't have a yard.
[01:46:55] <Ethanol-fueled> nobody got no business owning a dog if they chose to have a chihuaha or pug
[01:47:08] <Ethanol-fueled> or any other breeds that would not otherwise exist in nature.
[01:47:24] <Ethanol-fueled> survival of the fittest ec.
[01:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm okay with them not being strictly darwinistic but by gods they better not have special needs.
[01:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> like fucking english bulldogs that you gotta jerk off to breed cause they're too lazy to fuck.
[01:50:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Small mutts like Seymour Asses from Futurama are totally cool, and I know that from experience
[01:50:46] <Ethanol-fueled> But yeah, and english bulldogs have small legs and big dicks. and when they drag that thing across all your nice plush furniture, they ooze all over it
[01:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you can't let the little fuckers be in air over 80F or they just fucking die.
[01:51:26] * Ethanol-fueled nods
[01:52:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. i got like 8 messages on the site but i don't feel like writing replies right before bed.
[01:53:08] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm sure they won't mistake your kindness for weakness, Buzzard
[01:53:17] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah
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[01:55:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh they know better than that.
[01:55:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll rip em a new ass soon as i get my morning coffee in me.
[01:56:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, we're kicking /.'s ass in comments (for non-boring stories) so far this weekend.
[01:57:14] <Ethanol-fueled> that is good news, however, to use the corporate employer analogy:
[01:57:25] <Ethanol-fueled> It is better to be small and happy than to be large and miserable.
[01:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no, those were older stories. we've got about half their count on our highly trafficed ones.
[01:57:58] <Ethanol-fueled> that's good news.
[01:58:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i count as pretty good since they get 10x+ our traffic
[01:58:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, SN is fast and clean.
[01:59:13] <Ethanol-fueled> hell, when making some mods, like the ones at the bottom of the discussion or when individual comments, it happens so fast that I think nothing happened at all and I have to double-check!
[01:59:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yeah. that's caught me too.
[01:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> be like "i said mod, bitch"
[01:59:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> then oh, nevermind
[02:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well good seein ya man. keep fighting the shitty and unnecessary fight. ima go sleep.
[02:01:41] <Ethanol-fueled> unnnecessary, but fun. Isn't that what most fun is?
[02:01:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Good night, by the way.
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[02:27:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F-Droid 1.0 for Android Released 2017/10/20 - http://sylnt.us - gratis-and-libre-only
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[04:17:46] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 19°C/67°F, 9:17 pm GMT-7, Saturday, 21 October 2017
[04:17:54] <Ethanol-fueled> NIGGGERS
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[05:08:38] <chromas> Bender: s/ma.*/great-tits/
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[10:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:25:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3712
[10:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i know it's the weekend but i'm feeling kinda code-ish. think i'll see if i can finish up fixing the gimped up RTC library this morning.
[11:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, that's done. guess i could go ahead and put my program logic in for using the RTC now.
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[12:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> me adds the following debug line to his program: lcd.println(F("Wait 30s, Dumbass"));
[12:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh. it is no a good day for typing stuff
[12:27:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:27:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3713
[12:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[12:29:36] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[12:38:10] <Bytram> https://github.com
[12:38:11] <upstart> ^ 03pcmos386v501/README.md at master · roelandjansen/pcmos386v501 · GitHub
[12:39:40] <Bytram> #submit https://github.com See also: https://en.wikipedia.org *AND* http://www.cs.cmu.edu
[12:39:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:40:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:58:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw it. i'll do squirrely debugging after the weekend.
[12:59:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> book today.
[13:00:57] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:00:59] * exec metrosexually passes a BTRFS volume of trail mix to TheMightyBuzzard
[13:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[13:01:21] * exec diabolically sodomizes a uharc archive of popplers with Bytram
[13:01:29] <Bytram> tie
[13:01:36] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[13:01:37] <MrPlow> Today: A few showers in the morning with thunderstorms developing for the afternoon. High 72F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Tomorrow: Cloudy skies early, then partly cloudy in the afternoon. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 66F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
[13:01:44] <Bytram> not so good for fooshin
[13:01:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope. hence book.
[13:01:52] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:02:01] <Bytram> can you please take a look at something for me before you go?
[13:02:17] * Bytram is looking at a story submission and nobody else is here to bounce off of
[13:02:40] <Bytram> it
[13:03:15] <Bytram> it's the 'Code analyzer' story -- submitted by the author, but he created an account here about 5 months ago and posted an informative comment, too.
[13:04:34] <Bytram> bin spam or run with it? (The story itself reminds me of a few times when I coded things that the compiler complained about... I kept staring at thinking there's nothing wrong with MY code and then, finally, I saw the error of my ways.)
[13:04:44] <Bytram> hmm, convinced myself... I'll run it.
[13:13:12] <Bytram> okay, that's 8 stories pushed out. Should last us until early AM EDT. And now it's time for me to clean up and get ready for work.
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