#Soylent | Logs for 2017-10-04
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[00:08:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI -- Can the Pony Get Smarter? - http://sylnt.us - this-horse-can-do-arithmetic-but-we-need-one-that-can-do-math
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[01:35:14] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org
[01:35:14] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[01:35:20] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[01:35:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Rock Star Tom Petty Dies Aged 66 - http://sylnt.us - livin-like-refugees
[01:35:54] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:47:13] * cmn32480 blames TheMightyBuzzard
[01:47:40] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[01:49:17] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[01:49:19] * exec fanatically culturally enriches a used franger of mana potions with bytram
[01:49:23] <cmn32480> greetings from...
[01:49:25] <cmn32480> um
[01:49:33] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[01:49:34] <cmn32480> someplace other than where I live
[01:49:36] * exec emphatically scissors an old shoe full of hashlists for cmn32480
[01:49:59] <cmn32480> Chicago!
[01:50:01] <cmn32480> right
[01:50:07] <cmn32480> damn it
[01:50:14] <Bytram> do NOT go south
[01:50:17] * cmn32480 goes to write the city on the bedside notepad
[01:50:24] <cmn32480> I'm north
[01:50:37] <Bytram> good
[01:51:17] <cmn32480> in a rather nicer area
[01:51:24] * Bytram realizes that Pizzeria Uno claims to have gotten its start from around chicago, but then I remembered cheese does not get along well with you. Sorry 'bout that!
[01:51:35] <cmn32480> is ok
[01:51:41] <cmn32480> I'm only in town a couple days...
[01:51:47] <cmn32480> I can survive on bread and water
[01:52:05] <cmn32480> and dinner tonight is Chipotle
[01:52:24] <cmn32480> it was quick
[01:52:26] <cmn32480> easy
[01:52:26] * Bytram envisions cmn32480 walking through town like Ben Franklin with a couple long baguettes sticking out of a bag
[01:52:32] <cmn32480> and on the way to the hotel
[01:52:35] <Bytram> good and easy is good
[01:52:41] <Bytram> even gooder!
[01:53:29] <cmn32480> yeah
[01:53:49] <cmn32480> had to make a quick U turn to get it... but better than MCdonalds or BK or somesuch
[01:53:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:54:05] <Bytram> specially when someone else is paying for it!
[01:54:19] <cmn32480> 'zactly
[01:54:36] <cmn32480> how's you?
[01:54:58] <Bytram> okay...
[01:55:01] <Bytram> tired.
[01:55:15] <Bytram> got a phone call at 0630 today
[01:55:18] <Bytram> wrong number.
[01:55:23] <cmn32480> you told me
[01:55:31] * Bytram IS tired
[01:55:32] <cmn32480> better than bad news at 0630
[01:55:37] <Bytram> ah, you told ME
[01:55:39] <Bytram> =)
[01:55:49] <Bytram> that *really* helped a lot -- I needed that!
[01:55:49] * cmn32480 still stands by his logic
[01:56:01] * Bytram prefers to take a seat
[01:56:17] * cmn32480 slides a chair an a blankie to Bytram
[01:56:41] <Bytram> I was scheduled to work until 6pm (and then had an engagement scheduled 7:30p-8:30p tonight
[01:56:51] <cmn32480> woof
[01:56:54] <cmn32480> long day
[01:57:03] <Bytram> had a coworker scheduled until 4 -- swapped shifts with him so I could leave early.
[01:57:21] <cmn32480> then you forgot to nap?
[01:57:35] <Bytram> wasn't able to make it early enough to catch a nap before the meeting tonight, but *was* enough time to prepare dinner, eat it, and push out a dew stories, too.
[01:57:41] <Bytram> not enough time
[01:57:59] <Bytram> Only had about 30 minutes to spare
[01:58:05] <cmn32480> that isn't too bad
[01:58:10] <cmn32480> but the nap woulda helped
[01:58:27] <Bytram> by the time I got to bed and to sleep, it'd have been time to wake up... and I seriously doubted my abiliity to get back out of bed at that point
[01:58:35] <Bytram> easier to stay up than to take the chance
[01:58:40] <cmn32480> yup
[01:58:43] <Bytram> still woulda liked to have had the nap, though.
[01:58:49] <Bytram> have a late start tomorrow
[01:59:05] <Bytram> so if my neighbors, etc. cooperate, I *might* beable to sleep in a bit.
[01:59:28] * cmn32480 crosses his fingers
[01:59:46] * Bytram dots hit Ts and crosses his Is
[01:59:55] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[01:59:57] <Bytram> ;)
[02:00:41] <cmn32480> some days that is just how it goes
[02:00:56] <Bytram> When I saw the story in the queue about the vegas massacre, I expected it would get a lot of comments... didn't expect it to be up to the top 3!
[02:01:02] <cmn32480> dot your T's and cross your eyes and hope nobody notices
[02:01:23] <Bytram> just have them cross *their* eyes, and they won't be able to notice!
[02:01:42] <cmn32480> it had 350 ish comments when I looked earlier
[02:01:56] <Bytram> is at 413 atm
[02:02:13] <Bytram> top #1 is 448 and #2 has 434
[02:02:35] <cmn32480> looking at hof as we speakk
[02:02:43] <cmn32480> stupid hotel internet keeps being stupid
[02:02:44] <Bytram> sad that 3 out of the top 4 deal with man's inhumanity to man
[02:02:51] <cmn32480> yeah
[02:03:07] <Bytram> if you include Trump's election, then it would be 4 out of 4. ;)
[02:03:27] <cmn32480> I don't think he is inhuman...just needs a filter
[02:04:03] <Bytram> maybe more than "a" filter.
[02:04:42] <cmn32480> possibly
[02:04:50] <Bytram> I've come to realize that his thought process seems to be purely *emotion* based -- doing what feels right, and disavow anything that does not feel right.
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[02:05:10] <cmn32480> but I wholeheartedly agree that immediately after a tragedy is NOT the time or place to pass crappy freedom sucking legislation
[02:05:29] <cmn32480> See: PATRIOT Act
[02:05:47] * Bytram is on the opposite end of the specturm, not a Vulcan, mind you, but when I sense my emotions running strong, I've developed the habit of stepping back and trying to exercise restratint before taking action.
[02:06:09] <Bytram> cmn32480++ wholeheartedly agree
[02:06:09] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 86
[02:06:20] <Bytram> ~define eighty-six
[02:06:22] <exec> eighty-six: unable to find definition
[02:06:25] <Bytram> huh!
[02:06:31] <Bytram> ~g eighty-six
[02:06:33] <exec> [google] www.eightysix.com.au/
[02:06:43] <Bytram> ~define 86
[02:06:45] <exec> 86: unable to find definition
[02:06:48] <cmn32480> ~define sixty nine
[02:06:48] <Bytram> lol
[02:06:50] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03sixty nine: sexual position where both partners are performing oral sex on each other at the same time
[02:06:57] <cmn32480> yep still works
[02:07:03] <cmn32480> even wiht some numbers
[02:07:09] <cmn32480> ~define sixty eight
[02:07:10] <exec> sixty eight: unable to find definition
[02:07:18] <cmn32480> obviously not that one
[02:07:46] <Bytram> ah, wrong word form...
[02:07:46] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:07:47] <upstart> ^ 0386 (term) - Wikipedia
[02:08:05] <Bytram> When used as a verb, eighty-six, eighty-sixed, 86, 86ed, or 86'd is American English slang for getting rid of something, ejecting someone, or refusing
[02:08:32] * Bytram first learned the term when working in a restaurant. To '86' something was to say that we had run out of that item.
[02:08:43] <Bytram> Sorry, no Lobster dinner for you.
[02:09:19] <Bytram> brb -- fetching snack
[02:12:40] <cmn32480> milk bones?
[02:13:14] <Bytram> ROFL!
[02:13:20] <Bytram> so, how are YOU doing?
[02:13:25] <cmn32480> tired...
[02:13:30] <cmn32480> but surviving
[02:13:52] <Bytram> beats the alternative
[02:14:08] <cmn32480> a hearty meal and a soda (and a nap on the plane from 5 seconds after we got off the ground to 5 minutes before we landed) did wonders for my disposition this evening
[02:14:19] <Bytram> yays!
[02:14:59] <Bytram> I am a FIRM believer in: "The shortest distance between despair and hope is a good night's sleep."
[02:15:00] <cmn32480> next news story: 2 Hour Nap save Cmn32480's Seatmate from Poison Gas Atttack
[02:15:16] <Bytram> lay offf the bean burittos!
[02:15:31] <cmn32480> based on the fart I let go in the rental car, they might have tossed me out the emergency exit
[02:15:43] <Bytram> or used you for refueling?
[02:16:11] <cmn32480> in flight!
[02:16:20] <cmn32480> but how woudl we have gotten it ventilated?
[02:16:28] <cmn32480> dude... it was bad
[02:16:40] <Bytram> hang you under the wing and run a direct line to the engine?
[02:16:51] <Bytram> ~arthur f5a144
[02:16:52] <cmn32480> it was my own brand and I almost had to stick my head out the open window
[02:16:55] <exec> 483 stories loaded
[02:16:55] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Did life on Earth start due to meteorites splashing into warm little ponds?"
[02:17:26] <Bytram> !uid
[02:17:26] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:26] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6729, owned by JasonDT
[02:17:32] <exec> 482 stories loaded
[02:19:11] <cmn32480> damnit... I just bought a Roku last week!
[02:20:08] <Bytram> return it and exchange ??
[02:20:18] <Bytram> ~arthur c7c12c
[02:20:21] <exec> 482 stories loaded
[02:20:21] <exec> attempting to submit story: "HP Enterprise let Russia scrutinize cyberdefense system used by Pentagon"
[02:20:51] <cmn32480> nah...
[02:20:52] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:20:58] <exec> 481 stories loaded
[02:21:12] <cmn32480> that'd mean returnign it to Amazon... setting up a new one... pissing the kids off with no TV for a few days...
[02:21:16] <cmn32480> not worth it
[02:21:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:21:41] <Bytram> or... order the new one, install it, and then return the first one?
[02:21:56] <cmn32480> it ain't worth it
[02:22:02] <Bytram> agreed.
[02:22:06] <cmn32480> I'm satisfied with the unit I bought at the price I paid...
[02:22:10] <Bytram> which model did you get?
[02:22:12] <cmn32480> not wirth the hassle
[02:22:21] <cmn32480> I got a Premiere+
[02:22:24] <cmn32480> I think
[02:22:42] <cmn32480> yeah
[02:22:45] <cmn32480> that looks right
[02:23:00] * Bytram wonders if he could run linux on it
[02:23:27] <cmn32480> and it just got EOS's
[02:23:45] <Bytram> ~g EOS
[02:23:48] <exec> [google] https://eos.io
[02:23:51] <cmn32480> End of Sale
[02:23:58] <Bytram> ahhh, nod nod
[02:24:08] <cmn32480> is ok
[02:24:11] <Bytram> cleaning out the old stock before the new ones got released
[02:24:18] <cmn32480> paid less for ti than the cost of the new replacement
[02:25:04] <cmn32480> biggest feature that I wanted was an Ethernet port
[02:25:15] <Bytram> noice!
[02:26:06] <cmn32480> no eating my wireless bandwidth for streaming TV
[02:26:15] <cmn32480> that is only for streaming pron!
[02:26:27] <Bytram> lol
[02:26:32] <Bytram> ~arthur 2a7a57
[02:26:35] <exec> 481 stories loaded
[02:26:35] <exec> attempting to submit story: "New insights into how sleep helps the brain to reorganize itself"
[02:26:47] <Bytram> fsck && defrag
[02:27:06] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:27:12] <exec> 480 stories loaded
[02:29:33] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.nytimes.com
[02:29:34] <upstart> ^ 03Equifax Breach Caused by Lone Employee’s Error, Former C.E.O. Says - The New York Times
[02:29:43] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.nytimes.com
[02:29:43] <upstart> ^ 03Equifax Breach Caused by Lone Employee’s Error, Former C.E.O. Says - The New York Times
[02:30:10] <cmn32480> sure... blame the IT guy
[02:31:00] <Bytram> money quote: “How does this happen when so much is at stake?” asked Representative Greg Walden, Republican of Oregon. “I don’t think we can pass a law that, excuse me for saying this, fixes stupid. I can’t fix stupid.”
[02:31:21] <cmn32480> that ought to make the summary
[02:32:38] * cmn32480 wanders to the throne room
[02:34:10] <Bytram> heard a quote on the radio -- a rep suggested that companies would take security much more seriously if they were required to pay every affected individual, say, $2,000.00
[02:34:57] <Bytram> nota bene: there were 145.5 million people affected by the Equifax leak.
[02:35:35] <Bytram> so, a payout of ~ $290 Billion just *might* get their attention.
[02:40:48] <Bytram> break time
[02:44:29] <Bytram> ahh, here it is: https://www.bloomberg.com
[02:44:30] <upstart> ^ 03Five Data-Security Ideas Brought Up During the Equifax Hearing - Bloomberg
[02:44:53] <Bytram> ==> Representative Joe Barton wondered if companies like Equifax might do a better job protecting customers’ data if there were federal fines for breaches. “You might pay a little bit more attention to security if you had to pay everybody whose account got hacked a couple thousand bucks," said Barton, a Texas Republican.
[02:45:28] * chromas wouldn't mind a couple thousand bucks
[02:45:44] * Bytram wouldn't mind a couple thousand does, either.
[02:46:11] <Bytram> at a distance, of course.
[02:46:12] <chromas> And best of all, the hackers wouldn't benefit from stealing my identity. They'd pay to give it back
[02:46:23] * Bytram is too tired to come up with a reasonably good joke atm
[02:46:37] <Bytram> that would be a plus.
[02:46:57] <Bytram> okay... I've done run out of steam -- gonna call it a night.
[02:47:01] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[02:47:03] * exec suspiciously inserts a raid 2 volume of Windows XP into chromas
[02:47:14] <chromas> ~g'night Bytram
[02:47:16] * exec crutchyly spews a buzz saw of flapjacks on Bytram
[02:47:23] <chromas> Was raid 2 used much?
[02:47:24] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[02:47:26] * exec disturbingly pesters a cockle of diversity with cmn32480
[02:47:42] <Bytram> flapjacks? Yum!
[02:51:28] <Bytram> laters, all.
[03:06:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yahoo! Breach Affected 3 Billion Accounts - http://sylnt.us - Yay!-Yahoo!-Oh...-wait.
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[04:37:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Commodore 64 Makes a Half-Sized Comeback - http://sylnt.us - shoulda-priced-it-at-$64
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[06:16:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stroz Friedberg Report Investigating Uber and Anthony Levandowski Released - http://sylnt.us - Alphabet-Über-Alles?
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[07:46:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obesity Surges to 13.6% in Ghana - http://sylnt.us - wanting-to-be-fat-cats
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[09:12:01] <FatPhil> Is it really national taco day today?
[09:12:37] <FatPhil> just wanna know if my local texmex is bullshitting me on its daily menu
[09:16:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Mysteries Dissolve if Possibilities are Realities - http://sylnt.us - spooky-action-at-a-distance
[10:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g national taco day
[10:03:19] <MrPlow> http://www.nationaltacoday.com - "Last year Americans ate over 4.5 billion tacos! We love our Tacos ! on National Taco Day, on Taco Tuesdays & Everyday! That's 490,000 miles of tacos, which ..."
[10:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> back in a moment
[10:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:09:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3680
[10:10:01] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[10:46:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Roku, Amazon, and Apple Release New TV Streaming Products - http://sylnt.us - sticking-to-what-they-are-good-at
[12:25:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google, Facebook Algorithms Promote 4chan Threads Identifying Wrong Man as Vegas Shooter - http://sylnt.us - that-didn't-work-out-quite-like-we-hoped
[12:59:30] <FatPhil> ANyone done any 3D-ish X programming in any scripting language?
[13:00:17] <FatPhil> I'm looking for something which will let me trivially create a tetrahedron, and a line, and then let me spin them both using the mouse.
[13:00:27] <FatPhil> Using the least number of brain cells possible.
[14:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Saudi Minister Fired After Textbook Shows Yoda at UN Signing Ceremony - http://sylnt.us - begun,-the-textbook-scandal-has
[14:16:39] <Booga1> Hmm, draw a line and tetrahedron, not too tall an order. Spin them with mouse? No idea...
[14:20:16] <chromas> If you don't mind overhead, Blender is python scriptable
[14:25:35] <FatPhil> Having said that, I don't think I need the spinning, as long as I can decide a good view, I can stick with it.
[14:26:11] <FatPhil> It's just a 3d graph thing, no need for fancy rendering
[14:26:52] <chromas> No. You need full raytraced brushed metal reflections with cinematic lighting
[14:28:31] <FatPhil> and a John WIlliams rousing soundtrack!
[14:28:56] <FatPhil> javascript's braindead.
[14:29:30] <chromas> 🎜Bum bum bum, bum bum bum🎝 —a John Williams masterpiece
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[14:31:27] <FatPhil> wow: https://www.youtube.com
[14:31:28] <upstart> ^ 03John Williams - Cavatina (Live 1979) - YouTube
[14:31:34] <FatPhil> quite a bit of flutter too
[14:31:57] <FatPhil> hiss not so great either
[14:33:40] <FatPhil> If you put a <script> inside a <frameset>, you can't do a complex document.write("<frame ... line?!?!?
[14:34:21] <FatPhil> it just runs past the " characters and includes them in the frame attributes
[14:35:43] <chromas> Are framesets allowed to have content?
[14:35:56] <chromas> I thought they just pointed to other files
[14:37:35] <FatPhil> they just have <frame>s within them
[14:38:00] <FatPhil> I wanted those frames to be parametrised by the params given to the frameset document
[14:38:17] <FatPhil> It works if I also document.write("<frameset ...
[14:39:02] <FatPhil> But the html parser just seems to get its knickers in a twist if you put the javascript inside the frameset
[14:39:21] <FatPhil> Maybe I should read the DTD
[14:39:40] <FatPhil> Or maybe I should just quit with something that works, and not worry about why
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[14:49:43] <Sulla> Is the "false shooter" that the post is talking about Sam "He can't keep getting away with it!" Hyde, or the guy who worked at nasa with same first and last name as shooter?
[15:45:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Will Computers Redefine the Roots of Math? - http://sylnt.us - math-rebels
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[16:28:53] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, USA, 26°C/79°F, 11:28 am GMT-5, Wednesday, 4 October 2017
[17:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Think Tank Catalogs Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Violations - http://sylnt.us - we-are-listening
[17:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[17:59:26] <Bender> karma - naps: 63
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[18:57:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Insights Into How Sleep Helps the Brain to Reorganize Itself - http://sylnt.us - made-me-sleepy-reading-it
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[20:28:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Gets Closer to Launching Its Own Line of Smart Devices - http://sylnt.us - all-your-google-are-belong-to-us
[20:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> So, The Roomie got talked into making halloween costumes for his kids this year.
[20:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Boy: a James Cameron Alien
[20:48:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Girl and her two BFFs: Caticorn
[20:58:28] <chromas> Have them build their own horns with Linux-powered blinkenlights
[21:27:06] <chromas> Google is accessorizing
[21:27:13] <chromas> "Google Pixel Buds are Assistant-Enabled Bluetooth Earbuds that Cost $149"
[21:27:53] <pinchy> damn got a new salesman here, cold calling like crazy, dunno if I could do that all day "Hi im from blah blah and calling to see if youre still interested in blah blah"
[21:45:32] <Booga1> I used to do sales. Can't say I enjoyed it much. At least it was all in-person, not some cold calling telemarketing thing.
[21:56:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HP Enterprise Let Russia Scrutinize Cyberdefense System Used by Pentagon - http://sylnt.us - more-eyes-the-better?
[22:05:24] <chromas> Google's copying the best iPhone features for its new Pixel phones
[22:05:42] * chromas pries of everyone's headphone jacks
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[23:20:44] * TheMightyBuzzard plays jacks with everyone's headphone jacks
[23:26:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robotic Bugs Train Insects to Be Helpers - http://sylnt.us - ant-man
[23:35:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[23:35:15] <upstart> ^ 03Tom Petty - You Don't Know How It Feels (Video Version) - YouTube
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