#Soylent | Logs for 2017-06-20

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[00:00:40] <nick> still miss having a physical keyboard though
[00:01:41] <chromas> You could get one of those bluetooth pocket keyboards and duct tape 'em together
[00:02:55] <nick> i dont miss it enough to warrant an inconvenience in having it again
[00:03:46] <nick> on another note... was just going some reading to finally get a UK election story done, even if it's almost two weeks late
[00:03:56] <nick> but it really is like the election never happened
[00:04:57] <chromas> Is that good or bad?
[00:05:33] <nick> it's impossible to say, the government lost their majority, so they won and lost the election at the same time
[00:06:01] <nick> but theyre dealing with it much like brexit, and just 'getting on with it' and not really talking about it
[00:06:54] <nick> they were supposed to have some kind of deal with the DUP to enable them to pass legislation with 2 vote majority
[00:07:01] <nick> but after saying they had a deal, then saying they didn't
[00:07:23] <nick> they're now saying nothing, because they're busy dealing with brexit and the fallout from the fire and terror things
[00:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess we'll find out soon which party is paying better
[00:09:01] <nick> last i heard on the fire was that people were being offered new homes, but in cities the other end of the country in a 'take it or leave it' kind of thing
[00:09:24] <nick> and apparently if they accepted temporary accommodation, then they were off the list for being rehoused permanently
[00:12:25] <chromas> http://www.bbc.com
[00:12:27] <upstart> ^ 03Personal details of nearly 200 million US citizens exposed - BBC News
[00:12:59] <nick> chromas, story is in queue to go live later tonight
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[00:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Booz Allen Under Investigation for Accounting and Billing Practices - http://sylnt.us - nothing-significant
[00:59:12] <chromas> from the booz dept
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[01:30:16] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 7°C/45°F, 10:30 pm GMT-3, Monday, 19 June 2017
[02:17:01] <Ellenor> lemon: fuck off
[02:20:31] <lemon> Ellenor: eat dicks
[02:47:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Food Retailer Swaps Labels for Lasers - http://sylnt.us - avocado-toast
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[03:52:15] <poutine> http://i.huffpost.com (Pic might be NSFW if you work in a nunnery)
[04:27:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Personal Details of Nearly 200 Million US Citizens Exposed - http://sylnt.us - nefarious-purposes
[04:38:35] <chromas> huffpo being taken over by the Patriarchy eh
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[06:06:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Theresa May Condemns 'Sickening' Finsbury Park Terror Attack - http://sylnt.us
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[07:46:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Biologists Discover Surprisingly Strong Effects from Protein Variation - http://sylnt.us - carnivores-with-more-choice-rejoice
[09:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Core i9-7900X Reviewed: Hotter and More Expensive than AMD Ryzen 1800X for Small Gains - http://sylnt.us - competition++
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[09:59:47] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:59:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3495
[10:31:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:31:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3496
[10:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[10:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[10:35:37] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 421
[10:40:49] <Bytram> break time
[10:40:55] <Bytram> afk
[10:56:40] <Bytram> !uid
[10:56:40] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6625, owned by centerprism
[10:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uranus and Neptune Are Potential Targets for 2030s Missions - http://sylnt.us - exploring-uranus
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[12:00:12] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:00:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3497
[12:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt catch all the fish
[12:05:06] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[12:45:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Unanimous SCOTUS Victories for Free Speech - http://sylnt.us
[12:46:37] <Bytram> time to get some stuff done for the day... see ya laters!
[13:03:44] <chromas> http://www.dailywire.com
[13:03:44] <upstart> ^ 03Young Mothers Against 'Rape Culture' Asking Infant Sons' Permission To Pick Them Up | Daily Wire
[13:03:48] <chromas> Can't tell if serious
[13:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably. there's nothing so bloody stupid an SJW won't do it.
[13:05:39] <chromas> Infants can't consent though.
[13:05:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> see above re: bloody stupid
[13:06:11] <boru> If I were to move to the US, where should I go to avoid this lunacy?
[13:06:27] <boru> (e.g. I had a job hit for a gig in Washington, but I know nothing about it)
[13:07:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> draw a line from texas straight north. anything east of that and south of virginia.
[13:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> really you could go for some of the northwestern states as well just as long as you stay away from the coastal states
[13:09:23] <boru> Good shout, that'd give me Tornado Alley, bluegrass, and the Ozarks and the Appalachians.
[13:09:37] <boru> So Washington is a shit sandwich, then?
[13:09:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> biggest one in the nation
[13:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> worse than cali
[13:09:54] <boru> Sheesh, really?
[13:10:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus violence there is as bad as it gets
[13:10:14] <chromas> DC or the good Washington?
[13:10:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> dc
[13:10:20] <boru> The state!
[13:10:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> the good washington is fulla hippies and sjws but not actively dangerous to your health
[13:10:59] <boru> Good gun laws, from what I've been told.
[13:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea
[13:11:19] <boru> And the scenery looks pretty beautiful.
[13:11:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> my idea of good gun laws is "you can own an aircraft carrier if you can find a place to park it" though
[13:11:41] * boru chuckles.
[13:11:48] <boru> I'd vote for you.
[13:12:00] <chromas> Can the carrier own guns too?
[13:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't be much of a ship if it didn't have them but it shouldn't own anything cause it's not a people
[13:12:43] <chromas> das racis
[13:13:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i lurve naval-americans
[13:13:43] <boru> ~grab TheMightyBuzzard
[13:13:49] <boru> Oh come on, which bot is it...
[13:13:52] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[13:13:52] <Bender> Added quote 838
[13:13:52] <boru> #grab TheMightyBuzzard
[13:13:56] <boru> There we go.
[13:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> the old one
[13:14:04] <cmn32480> Boru - Washington State or Washington DC?
[13:14:09] <chromas> We need more prefixes
[13:14:10] <boru> The state.
[13:14:18] <chromas> #triggers
[13:14:30] <boru> Unicode prefices.
[13:14:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could live there but you'd prolly get right disgusted with all the hippies.
[13:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> 💩
[13:14:45] * exec chucks a nasty sloppy dogshit at aqu4
[13:15:06] <boru> Odd. I didn't get a don't-have-a-glyph box for that.
[13:15:13] <boru> Silly Deja Vu Mono.
[13:15:30] <boru> Unless you're doing something messed up like UTF-16LE.
[13:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just yer standard utf8 poop glyph
[13:15:51] <boru> i.e. the windows unicode.
[13:16:03] <boru> Ah, I don't think you can have monospaced poos, alas.
[13:16:13] <boru> I'd still have expected a no-glyph box, though.
[13:16:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure ya can. unifont has them.
[13:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> noto monospace has them as well
[13:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> noto monospace is MUCH better looking than unifont as well
[13:17:18] <chromas> monospace is for hippies though
[13:17:27] <boru> I wasn't familiar with either.
[13:17:32] * boru investigates
[13:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> noto is google's attempt at a universal font
[13:17:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fookin enormous
[13:18:07] <chromas> There's also a color version that works with Firefox and a couple other programs
[13:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, just because monospace users have unkempt beards don't make us hippies. we're just too busy working to pay attention to grooming.
[13:18:49] <chromas> hipsters then
[13:18:52] <boru> Ugh, it's quite ambiguous.
[13:19:00] <chromas> "oh, this monospace is so retro vintage"
[13:19:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hipsters don't work
[13:19:25] <boru> I like fonts with very distinguishable zeros and Norwegian letters e.g. 0Øø
[13:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> well outside coffee shops, vinyl stores, and apple anyway
[13:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> zeroes aren't very distinguishable in it but 1 l and I are
[13:20:41] <boru> O0Øø and I1l, yeah.
[13:20:51] <boru> That's most important.
[13:21:18] <chromas> You can still use your regular font and the font system will just substitute characters your font doesn't support
[13:21:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it has norse stuff so you can say: A Møøse once bit my sister... No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"
[13:21:55] * boru chuckles.
[13:22:30] <chromas> https://youtu.be
[13:22:31] <boru> O0 is really very important, since I typo it with relative frequency.
[13:22:32] <upstart> ^ 03Manned multirotor Part 20 -First Flight! - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[13:22:56] <boru> Good grief.
[13:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay, i got the dev db (mostly) cleaned up and set for the dev dm. still gotta get a local mail server and change all the email addresses to rehash@localhost and delete the logs
[13:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to get a tarball of /srv/dev.soylentnews.org on lithium first though
[13:26:18] <boru> I need to take care of some local maintenance as well, actually.
[13:26:47] <boru> I need to do two new builds: GP host and a crunchy host.
[13:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i'm building two vms from a common base. a dev vm using our current setup and one using repo packages (if possible).
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[13:32:22] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 9°C/48°F, 10:32 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 20 June 2017
[13:34:52] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, er, let's not put the development DB in a VM. No possibility of repairing install-slashsite?
[13:35:20] <chromas> use nspawn :D
[13:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh there prolly is but it does help to have content already there if you're needing to test stuff.
[13:36:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> in fact i think it's mostly fixed thanks to someone late last year.
[13:36:23] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm conerned there's a fair bit of crap there that shouldn't be public. You'd have to shred the admin logs, the regular logs, the IPIDs, MD5 sums, etc.
[13:36:36] <NCommander> And then shred free space in the image to prevent data mining
[13:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> already done for the logs
[13:36:49] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, and the PW hashs?
[13:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> and shredding free space i do cause it zips better
[13:37:11] * NCommander is rather unconfortable w/ this
[13:37:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i change em all to the same thing. breaks the pws for every account but the original one but doesn't matter.
[13:37:38] <NCommander> IPID/SUBIDs?
[13:37:40] <NCommander> logtokens
[13:37:45] <NCommander> Probably more I'm forgetting
[13:37:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hadn't thought of the ipids
[13:38:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> did think of testy billing stuff though
[13:38:28] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah, I'm strongly against this. I realize the dev DB is a few years out of date at this point compared to production, but let's not release personal identiable info at all
[13:39:15] <chromas> Can you build a script to fill an empty db with test junk?
[13:39:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke. i'll keep this one for my personal dev vm then and give an install slashsite one to world+dog
[13:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, not much quicker than doing it by hand, no.
[13:39:33] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah, I don't mind it for a private VM for the dev team who have lithium access
[13:39:40] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, but for a public one?
[13:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, cause they can make their own dump if they like
[13:39:59] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/m/t/
[13:40:00] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah, I'm liking that plan a lot better
[13:40:01] <exec> <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, cause they can take their own dump if they like
[13:40:04] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, thanks for understanding
[13:40:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries. that's just the cut of my jib.
[13:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> now if you'd said install emacs or set the vimrc to use spaces we'd hafta fite.
[13:42:26] * TheMightyBuzzard is currently tarballing up a copy of the relevant stuff from ~slash on dev to avoid having to compile everything again
[13:42:39] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, there's a build script ya know. :)
[13:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but it takes many long times and doesn't include sphinx and the like.
[13:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> perks of running the same os and cpu features, can cheat.
[13:45:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> really looking forward to testing perl/mod_perl/apache/mysql-cluster built from repo packages but that comes after i got xyem and FatPhil something to play with besides lithium.
[13:45:53] <chromas> and each other
[13:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> break time for breakfast n nicotine
[14:16:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Time Warner Shareholders Urge CNN CEO to be More Objective - http://sylnt.us - make-media-great-again
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[17:16:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bacteria from Hot Springs Solve Mystery of Metabolism - http://sylnt.us - whoa-there
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[17:27:49] <Exaeta> About what percent of submissions make it to the front page?
[17:30:29] <cmn32480> varies
[17:30:35] <cmn32480> some days virtually all...
[17:31:03] <cmn32480> some days, when tghe submission queue is rather full, we get to be a little more choosy
[17:31:11] <cmn32480> why do you ask Exaeta?
[17:32:09] <Exaeta> cmn32480: I'm wondering if it's worth submitting stories or not
[17:32:35] <cmn32480> for the most part, we try to use what comes in
[17:32:47] <cmn32480> some stuff is so out there that it gets tossed out of hand
[17:33:03] <cmn32480> we had one not too long ago about something to do with Kim Kardashian...
[17:33:13] <cmn32480> that one didn't make it past the editorial giggles
[17:36:40] <cmn32480> we do appreciate the effort our submitters put in
[17:37:02] <cmn32480> most of what gets passed over is political submissions.
[18:04:45] <Exaeta> Court rulings are not relevant?
[18:07:12] <cmn32480> we try not to take what submissions get accepted to the courts...
[18:07:45] <cmn32480> but it depends on the court ruling... is there a specific sub that you put in that was passed over?
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[19:39:00] <Bytram> whereto?? http://feedproxy.google.com
[19:39:01] <upstart> ^ 03Climb on board Boeing's new 737 Max 9 - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[19:52:34] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[19:52:38] <exec> 713 stories loaded
[19:52:38] <exec> attempting to submit story: "How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should)"
[19:53:09] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[19:53:15] <exec> 712 stories loaded
[19:53:20] <exec> *** wiki: Failure
[19:58:32] <Bytram> ~arthur https://arstechnica.com
[19:58:36] <exec> 712 stories loaded
[19:58:36] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Cats are an extreme outlier among domestic animals"
[19:59:07] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[19:59:13] <exec> 712 stories loaded
[19:59:17] <exec> *** wiki: Failure
[20:07:27] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.movienewsletters.net
[20:07:38] <Bytram> oops
[20:07:41] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[20:07:43] <upstart> ^ 03We're in the Epyc center: More Zen server CPU specs sneak out of AMD • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[20:25:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Unusual Language That Linguists Thought Couldn't Exist - http://sylnt.us - guess-what-this-gesture-means
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[21:59:51] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 18°C/64°F, 2:59 pm GMT-7, Tuesday, 20 June 2017
[22:01:10] <Bytram> time to get ready for the evening -- have a great day everyone!
[22:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Discontinues Edison, Galileo, and Joule Product Lines - http://sylnt.us - another-one-bites-the-dust
[22:17:46] <chromas> Bender: s/i/y/6
[22:18:14] <chromas> #smake exec
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[22:28:57] <FatPhil> Ug, looks like I set off a trollsplosion
[22:29:11] <chromas> Good work, son.
[22:29:45] <FatPhil> yeah, but they make a mess all over the walls and the carpet is very hard to clean
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[23:29:17] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 9°C/48°F, 8:29 pm GMT-3, Tuesday, 20 June 2017
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