#Soylent | Logs for 2017-06-18
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[00:17:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> too. much. catfish...
[00:18:01] * TheMightyBuzzard bloats
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[00:33:01] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 12°C/54°F, 10:33 am AEST, Sunday, 18 June 2017
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[01:22:20] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 14°C/58°F, 10:22 pm GMT-3, Saturday, 17 June 2017
[01:51:03] <Deucalion> ~weather
[01:51:05] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 68°F / 20°C, clear, wind S at 4 mph, humidity 75% - Saturday clear (63°F:84°F / 17°C:29°C), Sunday scattered showers (63°F:84°F / 17°C:29°C), Monday mostly sunny (65°F:87°F / 18°C:31°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (59°F:83°F / 15°C:28°C)
[02:27:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - American Chipmakers Had a Toxic Problem. Then They Outsourced It - http://sylnt.us - never-met-a-problem-we-couldn't-solve-by-outsourcing
[02:27:45] <Deucalion> ~weather
[02:27:47] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 67°F / 19°C, clear, wind SW at 3 mph, humidity 76% - Saturday clear (65°F:84°F / 18°C:29°C), Sunday scattered showers (63°F:84°F / 17°C:29°C), Monday mostly sunny (65°F:87°F / 18°C:31°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (59°F:83°F / 15°C:28°C)
[03:02:55] <crutchy> ahoy!
[03:03:08] <crutchy> exec, what's wrong with your stupid self?
[03:03:46] <crutchy> besides being scripted in the language of the devil
[03:05:58] <crutchy> ~tell TheMightyBuzzard YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[03:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist crutchy
[03:06:37] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[03:07:05] <crutchy> yearggh!
[03:07:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin busted with him but his regular crashiness. bout once a week he dies.
[03:07:15] <crutchy> must be the user
[03:07:20] <crutchy> always the user :D
[03:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> troo
[03:07:40] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes cmn32480
[03:08:16] <crutchy> i had a php script instance consume nearly 30GB of ram on a server at work
[03:08:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually there was something needed fixed on him but i forget what it was so it must not have been important
[03:08:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye flipping gods
[03:09:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> making panoramics out of raw images?
[03:09:08] <crutchy> yeah one thing php kinda really blows at is memory management :/
[03:09:17] <crutchy> nah just crunching data
[03:09:21] <crutchy> ok a lot of data
[03:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. you needa try some rust. its memory management is freakin beautiful.
[03:10:01] <crutchy> any typed language would probably be better
[03:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> when something goes out of its {}'d scope, it's freed. you can either borrow without changing the scope it's counted as belonging to or transfer ownership to a new scope.
[03:10:57] <crutchy> was thinking about maybe lazarusizing the data crunching part of the program. chromas would probably approve of that :)
[03:11:51] <crutchy> hmm yeah problem with this particular script is that there's a data structure that's built up over many thousands of iterations though a pipeline of different functions
[03:12:00] <crutchy> (passed as argument by ref)
[03:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'freakin beautiful, man. MrPlow don't run more than 11M with all his features. Talos runs about 3M
[03:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[03:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> hate those. store em in a db unless you actually need to keep them resident the whole time.
[03:12:58] <crutchy> php doesn't store a double in 8 bytes or whatever it is. probably takes up 100 bytes of meta data crap
[03:13:07] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[03:13:09] <crutchy> 16 bytes
[03:13:13] <crutchy> ergh can't remember
[03:13:35] <crutchy> yeah need a real compiled language for some of that heavy lifting
[03:13:50] <crutchy> c would be awesome too but i'd fuck it up
[03:13:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> would normally be asleep but got distracted reading the libertarian bible
[03:13:58] <crutchy> amen!
[03:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. really hard to fuck up rust. it won't let you most the time.
[03:14:38] <crutchy> i like watching those q&a vids by whosiwhatsit
[03:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> was just up to the part where prof eliminated that yammerhead minister so mannie wouldn't resign when you pinged
[03:17:17] <crutchy> milton freidman
[03:17:34] <crutchy> not sure if he's an austrian, but he wipes the floor with keynsian butts
[03:17:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, yeah
[03:17:53] <crutchy> the floor gets really smelly
[03:18:19] <crutchy> peter schiff is pretty good against nbc morons
[03:18:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was talkin heinlein o course
[03:18:24] <crutchy> pretty low bar though
[03:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> troo
[03:18:30] <crutchy> oh
[03:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> msnbc the bar's not just on the ground but burried six feet under.
[03:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna grab a smoke, back in 10ish
[03:20:21] * crutchy is playin some minecraft
[03:27:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> heard yall was havin another gun turn-in so's all them terrists what were fretting about having illegal weapons could sleep easier.
[03:29:01] <crutchy> probly
[03:29:38] <crutchy> we don't have that pesky 'bill of rights' that seems to get in the way over there so much :p
[03:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't either really. they treat them as suggestions anymore.
[03:41:13] <crutchy> personally i don't much like guns anyway, so it doesn't bother me. we do have criminals here of course, but living away from major cities seems to offer a bit more peace of mind
[03:42:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe man, guns is awesome.
[03:43:24] <crutchy> my freedums were assigned to me by the monarchy so its a bit different i guess
[03:43:56] <crutchy> you guys have had a shitstorm of a history by comparison :p
[03:46:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we can even make explosives, wrap them around trees we dislike, and shoot them.
[03:56:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Batteries That "Drink" Seawater Could Power Long-Range Underwater Vehicles - http://sylnt.us - don't-drink-seawater
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[05:36:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Texas Sanctions FDA-Unapproved Stem Cell Therapies - http://sylnt.us - because-Texas
[07:05:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Keys, Tokens and Too Much Trust Found in Container Images - http://sylnt.us - token-effort
[08:46:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Independent Analysis Casts Doubt on LIGO's Detection of Gravitational Waves - http://sylnt.us - feel-the-noize
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[09:43:29] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 13°C/55°F, 2:43 am GMT-7, Sunday, 18 June 2017
[10:17:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google DeepMind's New Algorithm Can Handle Relational Reasoning - http://sylnt.us - my-uncle-did-it
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[10:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:38:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3493
[11:56:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Turning E-Cigarettes Into Hacking Tools - http://sylnt.us - another-USB-exploit
[13:06:16] <Runaway1956> http://www.foxnews.com
[13:08:02] <Runaway1956> Fuck. Claustrophobia attack. My first weeks aboard ship, I woke up every night, feeling crushed and penned in.
[13:08:14] <Runaway1956> My worst dreams came true for these guys.
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[13:24:25] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 8°C/47°F, 10:24 am GMT-3, Sunday, 18 June 2017
[13:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China's Insight X-Ray Telescope Will Search for Black Holes and Neutron Stars - http://sylnt.us - I-could-see-that
[14:00:01] <Bytram> to all you dads out there... Happy Father's Day!!
[14:00:14] * Bytram gets ready to head to work.
[14:26:09] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[14:26:10] <upstart> ^ 03Spotted this today - Album on Imgur
[14:28:03] <chromas> It's got Gladimhere Putitin, Angular Merkin and Tronald Dump
[15:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Erdogan Decries 'Unacceptable' US Arrest Warrants for Staff in Washington Brawl - http://sylnt.us - Turkish-coffee
[16:36:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China's Quantum Communications Satellite Beats Record - http://sylnt.us - spooky-satellite
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[18:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Faces Reconstructed by Reading Brain Waves - http://sylnt.us - never-forget-a-face
[20:07:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SAS Troops Posing as Homeless on UK Streets Amid Terror Fears - http://sylnt.us - do-they-beg-for-taxes
[20:15:25] <chromas> I thought terrorism in the UK wasn't a thing.
[20:16:27] <nick> said who
[20:18:57] <chromas> all the quips about "no big deal; back to work" on the internet
[20:19:42] <nick> 'keep calm and carry on' dates back to ww2
[20:19:49] <nick> and no one says ww2 didn't happen
[20:20:28] <nick> and the government has been all to keen to acknowledge terrorism in the pursuit of enhanced surveillance/spying powers
[20:20:57] <chromas> If everyone's calm then they're not terrorized though.
[20:21:09] <nick> and of course, the major terrorist incidents that have happened in recent years, MI5/6 has always been there, in the background almost every step of the way.
[20:21:37] <chromas> I bet those were MI5-sponsored trucks o' peace :)
[20:22:58] <nick> not MI5 sponsored, just part of an ongoing investigation, so everyone else needs to be hands off, until there's the right moment, but then they just slip through the net... if we had more funding they wouldn't have
[20:24:28] <nick> and for plenty of people in UK/London, terrorism isn't a new thing... i've met more people affected by IRA terrorism (also with MI5 embedded all along the way) than people affected by 'trucks of peace'
[20:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ow ow ow
[20:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> my forearm hurts and it ain't even cause of a marathon wank
[20:41:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt anarchy in the uk
[20:41:07] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[20:43:30] <nick> no anarchy, strict law and order enforced by soldiers on the streets, undercover and uniformed police, cctv everywhere, making sure everyone can keep being good citizens as they work at their insurance company or banking group
[20:44:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i just wanted to hear the song
[20:44:03] <chromas> Do you guys have BLM 'protestors'?
[20:44:07] <nick> we can let the attacks on our freedom change our attitudes to privacy and militarized police, but one thing we wont let them change is our finance industry
[20:44:19] <nick> no
[20:44:35] <nick> UK police don't routinely shoot people
[20:44:57] <chromas> Do Canadian police? They have BLM
[20:45:00] <nick> when they do, they have a habit of not racially discriminating, and still end up usually shooting innocent people
[20:45:12] <boru> Heh, never been to Northern Ireland, I take it.
[20:45:13] <chromas> So it's kinda like the us
[20:45:26] <boru> They're pretty discriminatory there.
[20:45:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid roomie's kid learning to play the guitar by playing rocksmith got me thinking i should try it. now my fretting arm hurts.
[20:45:33] <nick> boru, as we know... northern ireland is special and different
[20:45:38] <boru> If you say so.
[20:45:46] <chromas> like helmets and stuff?
[20:45:54] <boru> Funny how invaders always call it 'terrorism'.
[20:45:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's fulla irish for one
[20:45:59] <nick> well, you can be terrorist sympathizers of the right group of terrorists and get to be the deal maker/breaker in government
[20:46:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's special and different
[20:46:13] <boru> I resemble that remark!
[20:46:20] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[20:46:21] <nick> but you have to be sympathizers of the right terrorist group, one that supports the queen.
[20:46:42] <chromas> Trump is our queen
[20:46:49] <chromas> Isn't he stunning and brave?
[20:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> terrorist = someone who understands how war can be won without having superior forces
[20:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't dislike islamic terrorists cause they're terrorists, i dislike em cause they're our enemy.
[20:48:21] <chromas> it's 'cause they're antithetical to Big Bank
[20:48:26] <boru> Sure, I don't condone striking soft targets, but it's return fire. I'm aware that's just nancy talk in terms of waging warfare, obviously.
[20:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm a bastard. i say strike the targets that'll win the war fastest, soft or hard is irrelevant.
[20:49:43] <boru> It's bloody warm here, today. Low thirties in the shade, earlier today.
[20:49:53] <boru> I'm not built for this sort of weather.
[20:50:02] <boru> Aye, that's what I was getting at.
[20:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> we stole nick's weather today. been raining since mid-morning.
[20:50:23] <boru> Please send it this way.
[20:50:29] <boru> Roll on Winter, I say.
[20:50:36] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[20:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just don't want me going fishing is what it is
[20:51:02] <boru> Buy a telescope!
[20:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> how do you bait a telescope?
[20:51:23] <boru> Though at your latitude, you don't have the problem we have during Summer.
[20:51:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt changes in latitude
[20:51:40] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[20:51:45] <boru> There's an optics joke in there somewhere, but I'm exchausted.
[20:52:08] <boru> There's not astronomical twilight at this latitude in Summer.
[20:52:12] <boru> s/not/no
[20:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> up that northerly, are you?
[20:55:37] <boru> It's a problem past 55N, realistically.
[20:55:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't aware yall had anything approaching white nights
[20:56:40] <boru> Well, there are three stages of twilight: civil twilight, nautical twilight and astronomical twilight: https://www.timeanddate.com
[20:56:40] <upstart> ^ 03The Different Types of Twilight, Dawn and Dusk
[20:56:58] <boru> Astronomical twilight is what you want to maximise SNR for imaging deep sky objects.
[20:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[20:57:15] <boru> For higher signal targets, say, like the moon, or the planets in our solar system, not much of a problem.
[20:58:19] <boru> So, long story short, there are perks to living further south.
[20:59:29] <nick> ~weather
[20:59:31] <exec> 10Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay - currently 50°F / 10°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 28 mph, humidity 77% - Sunday scattered showers (45°F:51°F / 7°C:11°C), Monday sunny (42°F:52°F / 6°C:11°C), Tuesday sunny (43°F:55°F / 6°C:13°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (54°F:62°F / 12°C:17°C)
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[21:31:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[21:31:43] <upstart> ^ 03Jimmy Buffett - Cheeseburger In Paradise - YouTube
[21:48:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - T-Mobile’s New 600 MHz Network Rollout Begins This Summer - http://sylnt.us - beyond-the-urban-core
[22:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> whores++
[22:52:28] <Bender> karma - whores: 3
[22:53:09] <chromas> Frank? Is that you?
[22:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[22:55:59] <upstart> ^ 03Guitar Lessons With Bubbles - Liquor & Whores - YouTube
[22:59:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[22:59:06] <upstart> ^ 03Jane's Addiction - Whores - YouTube
[23:05:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[23:05:39] <upstart> ^ 03Whores And Hounds, The Irish Rovers - YouTube
[23:08:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[23:08:10] <upstart> ^ 03The Whores of Sailortown - YouTube
[23:08:26] <nick> https://www.yahoo.com
[23:08:27] <upstart> ^ 03NASA wants to probe Uranus in search of gas
[23:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gods but i think i love this song
[23:09:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, nice one. needs subbed.
[23:16:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PBS Runs a Three-Hour Series Highlighting Positives of DeVos Education Agenda - http://sylnt.us - telling-half-the-story
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