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[23:06:25] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, USA, 33°C/92°F, 6:06 pm GMT-5, Wednesday, 14 June 2017
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[13:07:35] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 13°C/55°F, 10:07 am GMT-3, Wednesday, 14 June 2017
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[12:43:53] <Bytram> alrighty then, time for work... laters!
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[10:08:33] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 11°C/52°F, 7:08 am GMT-3, Wednesday, 14 June 2017
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[09:33:38] <FatPhil> food time...
[09:30:12] <boru> Anyway, work call. AFK for a bit.
[09:30:02] <boru> I'd recommend reading the various Israeli newspapers if you want to see some vitriolic opinions.
[09:29:41] <FatPhil> I think Corbyn and Livingston have both been put through the Sun/Mail/Torygraph mangle for simply repeating facts.
[09:28:39] <FatPhil> You get villified as a Hitler if you're a politician who expresses any anti-Israeli-policies views.
[09:28:26] <boru> You can say what you like about the Palis, of course. That's not considered hate speech.
[09:27:21] <boru> Did you know that it's illegal to express and opinion disagreeing with the Israeli position out there in the UK, now? As is boycotting Israel.
[09:27:16] <FatPhil> Why I prefer RT's coverage to BBC's was exemplified by my browsing just yesterday - apparently, the Israelis are planning their largest ever new settlement. On RT, not on BBC.
[09:26:35] <boru> But they won't admit that, of course.
[09:26:06] <boru> That's all just a part of Oded Yinon's plan out there.
[09:25:18] <boru> How kind of them.
[09:24:28] <FatPhil> Another, small group of peacekeepers isolated, one wounded, ask for assistance on getting out of the area, and the israelis direct them towards a little-known gate - that has a minefield surrounding it!
[09:23:29] <boru> Sounds about right.
[09:22:39] <FatPhil> We're working on a paper about UN peacekeeping in the ME presently. Plenty of shit you don't hear on the news. E.g. post-shelling/eviction illagers (almost all women and children) ask for shelter with the UN peacekeepers, Israeli tanks just shell the whole encampment. Oddly, they seemed to first target the signs that said "UN" on them.
[09:18:49] <boru> The situation in Ireland was a bit like what you have now with the ME. Reports on attacks in the UK, but no mention of the British bombing campaigns in the ME. Lots of omission. Operation Mockingbird was in full swing in that era, of course, but I'm not sure that ever went away, even now.
[09:16:42] <boru> I'm sure there are recordings on the web somewhere.
[09:16:28] <FatPhil> BS's too far back for me.
[09:16:17] <boru> Half of them can't speak Irish.
[09:15:53] <boru> Sinn Féin are bellends.
[09:15:33] <FatPhil> I do remember, I did like the compromise of having Sinn Fein statements read out by an actor, as previously they weren't allowed at all IIRC.
[09:15:29] <boru> A good example would be the reports around Bloody Sunday.
[09:14:37] <FatPhil> There was certainly bias in the 70s BBC news, which is the earliest I remember, but I don't remember it being bare-faced lies.
[09:14:34] <boru> We speak the Queen's English. naturally, though it's evolved over time.
[09:13:28] <FatPhil> When I left the UK I was accused of speaking "the Queen's English", which I objected to. They twisted the complement into "Oxbridge English", which I wasn't so keen on either. So I proffered "BBC English" as a compromise.
[09:12:35] <boru> You silly billy.
[09:12:30] <boru> I meant during the 60s-90s.
[09:11:34] <FatPhil> Wasn't alive during the Michael Collins era, and I'm not sure there was much of a BBC either.
[09:11:10] <Ellenor> I have a bit of a beeb accent =|
[09:10:55] <boru> The BBC has been a cesspit for decades.
[09:10:20] <boru> You should've seen the propaganda during the conflict in Ireland.
[09:10:00] <boru> Really? Only then?
[09:09:28] <FatPhil> I remember the news broadcasts on the announcement of Dubya/Blair's Iraq war, and it was pure governmental propaganda, and I thought "the BBC's dead to me"
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[08:20:00] <nick> the bbc is one of the best, and also probably one of the worst media corporations out there
[08:09:49] <FatPhil> it's just that I'm used to reading the BBC page, it's 2 decades of motor memory
[08:09:38] <Ellenor> >RT
[08:09:13] <FatPhil> Dare I say it, but I think even RT provides better coverage of UK news than the BBC now!
[08:00:57] <Ellenor> outbrain
[07:59:51] <nick> i use the bbc website so rarely these days, only for live events
[07:57:59] <FatPhil> I just wish teh BBC hadn't fucked their website about 2 weeks ago - you click on an interesting-looking story, and you get sent to an utterly irrelevant one.
[07:56:12] <FatPhil> cause finally identified: Borizilla - https://grenfellactiongroup.files.wordpress.com
[07:50:26] <FatPhil> Indeed, it tweaked the anarchist lobe of my lizard brain, certainly.
[07:49:10] <nick> i wish any of that was surprising
[07:45:02] <upstart> ^ 03Little Lord Rock Weilding Felon | Grenfell Action Group
[07:45:01] <FatPhil> Some nice "they'll be the first with their backs to the wall when the revolution comes" sentiment subliminally coming through this one: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com
[07:41:44] <nick> hah
[07:41:23] <FatPhil> I just want to work with the 1s and 0s that are signalled along them!
[07:40:52] <nick> my dad was an electrician, i was just lazy and wanted to work with smaller wires.
[07:40:12] <FatPhil> One thing I refuse to dabble with is electrics, I always just call in a pro from a company with a reputation
[07:40:11] <nick> something i saw 3rd hand unverified, on twitter, said it was a fridge that started it
[07:38:39] <upstart> ^ 03GRENFELL TOWER – FROM BAD TO WORSE | Grenfell Action Group
[07:38:39] <FatPhil> I wonder if this was the cause: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com
[07:37:06] <FatPhil> OK, maybe not 240, but enough to give quite a shock
[07:36:39] <FatPhil> I was getting 240V out of the earth connection in the first place I moved here.
[07:36:10] <nick> it even surprised me, and i've seen some shit, especially with wiring
[07:35:30] <nick> i bet it's not even half as bad as what gets done here
[07:34:31] <FatPhil> I dragged him over to Tallinn to look at a couple of the properties we were looking at, and one of the things he repeatedly raised was fire safety, and how things would never be allowed in the UK
[07:33:35] <exec> welcome FatPhil: Tallinn, Harju County, Estonia, 14°C/57°F, 10:33 am GMT+3, Wednesday, 14 June 2017
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[07:33:15] <SoyGuest3357> 1974
[07:33:13] <SoyGuest3357> his profession was also a surveyor, he knows buildings.
[07:33:10] <nick> when was it built?
[07:32:34] <SoyGuest3357> I haven't spoken to my dad for about a month, I should discuss the housing development side of that building with him, he was a local councillor in a london borough, and was very active in the time that building was built.
[07:30:09] <nick> it wouldn't surprise me if half of the tower blocks in the country have similar issues... especially the newer ones.
[07:27:54] <nick> ive been trying to not think about it, but it's kept me up... really close to home, people i know kind of shit
[07:27:30] <SoyGuest3357> not pulling any punches!
[07:27:25] <SoyGuest3357> "We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster."
[07:27:08] <nick> yeah i read a lot of that stuff
[07:26:29] <upstart> ^ 03KCTMO – Playing with fire! | Grenfell Action Group
[07:26:29] <SoyGuest3357> https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com
[07:25:30] <nick> or what i would assume to be an expressway for fire
[07:25:06] <nick> apparently there was/is only one set of stairs on that tower block, right in the middle
[07:23:18] <SoyGuest3357> I remember when that story broke, indeed.
[07:22:22] <nick> relevant but unconnected, my understanding is.... with the push to convert old office space into flats, certain requirements -- such as size of roooms -- that would be required for domestic properties are not required on these refurb projects
[07:19:44] <upstart> ^ 03Tories vote down law requiring landlords make their homes fit for human habitation | The Independent
[07:19:43] <nick> http://www.independent.co.uk
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[07:15:42] <SoyGuest3357> I also notice that the conservative MP was just voted out, so locals aren't happy with the cons.
[07:14:58] <SoyGuest3357> So, who signed off on the work on the tower block - a conservative local council, I notice.
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[05:13:24] <nick> stay classy people
[04:48:28] <Ellenor> cucks
[04:42:51] <chromas> #NotAllFires
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[03:53:39] <nick> a lot of people are probably going to be dead as a result
[03:53:25] <nick> that fire is really bad
[03:00:35] <Bytram> bummer
[02:51:23] <upstart> ^ 03Fire engulfs tower block in Latimer Road, west London - BBC News
[02:51:22] <nick> http://www.bbc.com
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