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[02:04:14] <exec> Friday, 2 June 2017 @ 2:04 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[02:25:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nest to Bring a New Home Security Camera to Market - http://sylnt.us - smile-for-the-camera
[03:55:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's Official - President Trump Pulls Out of Paris Agreement - http://sylnt.us - promises-kept
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[09:18:43] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 11°C/51°F, 6:18 am GMT-3, Friday, 2 June 2017
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[10:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[10:09:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://torrentfreak.com
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[10:17:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EFF Sues FBI to Obtain Records About Geek Squad/Best Buy Surveillance - http://sylnt.us - taking-your-business-elsewhere
[10:54:51] <Bytram> coffee++
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[10:54:54] <Bytram> !uid
[10:54:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6615, owned by scar
[11:04:25] <Bytram> http://www.google.com
[11:04:26] <upstart> ^ 03An-225 takeoff.weight - Google Search ( https://www.google.com )
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[11:22:43] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
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[11:45:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cleveland PD Fires Timothy Loehmann--But Not for Killing Tamir Rice - http://sylnt.us - two-and-a-half-years-later
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[13:48:49] <exec> welcome FatPhil: Tallinn, Harju County, Estonia, 8°C/47°F, 4:48 pm GMT+3, Friday, 2 June 2017
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[14:08:39] <chromas> Bender: s/- .*/consequences-will-never-be-the-same/3
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[14:10:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: I didn't get a chance to go see the An-225 when it was here last year :(
[14:12:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> Errr...I guess it wasn't the 225 but the 124.
[14:12:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> Big damn thing anyways
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[19:26:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
[19:26:48] <MrPlow> Off I shall piss...
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[19:27:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[19:27:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[19:27:31] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 412
[19:29:27] <nick> Deucalion, you seen this? "In the wake of the Manchester suicide bomb attack a former assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police has called for the reintroduction of internment camps."
[19:30:38] <Deucalion> Haven't seen it and sounds like uttter bollocks.
[19:31:21] <nick> can't see it happening, but amazed it's been reported and picked up by the BBC
[19:32:59] <nick> is also news to me that they had internment for IRA suspects in 71-75
[19:40:47] <nick> the DailyMail commenters on form as usual.. "now is not the time for innocent until proven guilty" ... "if we can't hang them, we should do this" ... "anything is better than dead kids"
[19:41:14] <nick> also "if you're friends of family with a terror suspect, you deserve this"
[19:53:07] <nick> the 'best' one was the implication that 'innocent until proven guilty
[19:53:19] <nick> is some liberal plot to undermine society
[19:54:14] * nick remembers the King of The Hill quote 'if he wasn't guilty, why would the sheriff have arrested him?'
[20:04:26] <Deucalion> You even read the DailyMail let alone the comment section? The comment section is comedy gold for outrage, I'm sure it's just a bunch of people saying the most outrageous thing they can think of for shits n giggles. But then I come across people day to day who take the Daily Mail and Mumsnet comments at face value and seem to absorb the absurdity as a genuine thing. And then our politicians pander to this apparent "mass" of reaction by doing "s
[20:04:26] <Deucalion> omething" - my god it's utter madness all the way down.
[20:06:28] <nick> I read it because the majority of my family who reads the news, uses it as their primary source
[20:06:54] <nick> so i know many of the comments are not far from 'man on the street' thinking
[20:07:21] <nick> and i wouldn't have brought it up, but plenty of those comments have had thousands of likes/thumbs up
[20:07:43] <nick> the most unpopular comment was someone saying they knew people who were interned in NI and it didn't work.
[20:08:07] <nick> the upvoted reply was 'that was then, use some 21st century thinking'
[20:09:07] <nick> the people in my family who read the DM, do not read the comments, but come up with the same opinions and talking points after
[20:10:02] <nick> while i dont think it's likely that internment will become a thing in the short term, i can see room for expanded detention without charge policies
[20:13:01] <nick> in other news...
[20:13:02] <nick> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[20:13:03] <upstart> ^ 03Walmart is asking employees to deliver packages on their way home from work - The Washington Post
[20:13:20] <Deucalion> So popular opinion is therefore being defined by troll posts and bot driven thumbs up on some "news"paper website. What happened to critical thinking? Oh wait - that never actually happened en masse did it. Oh well - bring on the "report thy neighbour then string em up from the nearest tree" - we don;t need no courts here, or laws... we'll just hang everyone we're suspicious of not being a Little Englander.... or some such dystopian bollocks f
[20:13:20] <Deucalion> uture.
[20:14:10] <nick> ive said it before, but i'll say it again... my grandfather once told me "international law is for other countries, not us."
[20:14:28] <Deucalion> Welcome to feudalism again - this time with more real time tracking of the peons for good measure.
[20:15:14] <nick> but then he also threatened to disown me on christmas day, because i mentioned seeing a russell brand book in tesco....
[20:15:51] <nick> didnt let me get to pointing out the hypocrisy of a book about 'revolution' being £20 rrp, before that threat of disowning me.
[20:16:01] * TheMightyBuzzard has dibs on the title "Sir Loin of Beef"
[20:17:27] <nick> missed out on some bacon opportunities there, TheMightyBuzzard
[20:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sir Rossis of Liver?
[20:18:24] <nick> haha
[20:19:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> still not as good as Count de Monet but that's too well known to steal
[20:20:59] <nick> that kind of derision for the nobility will get you hung in the UK, if the DM readership had their way...
[20:22:02] * Deucalion drapes St. George flags from every window.... that should put them off the scent :D
[20:22:20] <nick> "the dilemma faced by law enforcement officials in dealing with new-fangled encryption tech. " - Engadget
[20:22:45] <Deucalion> Perhaps one of them should have some lions on it to show I'm "into football" - wouldn;t want to stand out from the borg
[20:23:08] <nick> i have a miniature american flag draped around a bottle of Havana Club, because i could.
[20:24:01] <nick> Deucalion, so how about that local sports team?
[20:28:19] <Deucalion> wtf is "new-fangled" about encryption? The fuck is wrong with people? one time pads and using them for secure comms has been around for millenia... it's a problem now... because.... umm.... DARKWEB.... CYBERTURRISTS hiding under the bed using WHATSTWITCHAT... therefore back door it all... and give access to the bin men, the council... well that;s just fine, it;s for our own good right... as long as I can sit in peace and watch StrictlyBCelebs-
[20:28:22] <Deucalion> MakeAnAss-OnTelly and not have to think that will be just fine..... wait, what, why am I being taken into detention.... HELP ME!! Oh fusk.... there is no-one to help me... everybody who could have spoken for me got put in detention before me.... well shit that sucks. ~GAME OVER~
[20:30:18] <Deucalion> MeMeMe++
[20:30:18] <Bender> karma - mememe: 1
[20:30:51] <Deucalion> BlindIgnorantFascism++
[20:30:51] <Bender> karma - blindignorantfascism: 1
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[20:32:05] <jiggs> meep
[20:32:06] <nick> as you said, utter madness all the way down seems really appropriate
[20:32:12] <Deucalion> moop
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[20:32:30] * cmn32480 calls it quits for the night
[20:32:40] <cmn32480> timne to go home and cut the grass.... wheeeee
[20:32:50] <boru> Ride on on push mower?
[20:32:57] <boru> Err, or, rather.
[20:33:19] <nick> my guess is yes... 'MURICA!
[20:33:52] <boru> Pft, you've obviously never had a large lawn.
[20:33:53] * Deucalion passes cmn32480 a tiny pair of scissors... I hear each blade of grass scream.... do them one by one for me, I rather enjoy it
[20:34:23] <nick> boru, you're right... currently i cut the grass with a weed whacker
[20:34:24] <cmn32480> will do!
[20:34:35] <boru> Yes, the smell of vegetal carnage^W^Wfreshly cut grass is wonderful.
[20:34:43] <cmn32480> riding mower
[20:34:52] <boru> What have you got?
[20:34:54] <cmn32480> I cut about 3/4 acre
[20:35:03] <boru> I miss my old JD ride on back at home.
[20:35:24] <nick> with 3/4 of an acre, in the UK cmn32480 would be Lord cmn32480
[20:35:24] <cmn32480> it is one that I inherited... a Simplicity branded unit
[20:35:29] <boru> I'd been cannibalising parts from scrap to fix it for over a decade.
[20:35:39] <cmn32480> kinda nice, but the accessories are hugely expensive
[20:35:49] <boru> Don't know that brand.
[20:35:56] <boru> I find it therapeutic, though.
[20:35:58] <cmn32480> you aren't missing much boru
[20:36:13] <boru> Stick on some tunes, smoke a cigar, and cut the grass.
[20:36:38] <cmn32480> pretty much...
[20:36:46] <cmn32480> beer cooler sits on the trailer hitch
[20:36:58] <boru> Luxury model, sounds like.
[20:37:43] <cmn32480> like I said.. I inherited it from the guy I bought the house from
[20:37:51] <cmn32480> and I made the beer cooler platform
[20:37:52] * boru nods.
[20:38:05] <Deucalion> I take umbrage at devil spawn yellow flowered rapeseed (oilseed) - the pollen from that stuff is like pepper spray to the eyes for me. I thought normal grasses were bad before I encountered that bastard in full flower on a windy day. Great that every arable farmer in the UK is turning over their plots to the evil bastard :D (from a selfish perspective)
[20:38:32] <boru> Nettles are pretty bad for pollen, as well.
[20:38:53] <Deucalion> They taste good in a tea though
[20:39:05] <boru> Out of curiosity, have you ever had a food allergy test done?
[20:39:17] <cmn32480> no.
[20:39:18] <boru> I stopped eating the stuff I'm allergic to one day, and I never had hayfever again.
[20:39:27] <cmn32480> I find the opllen and grasses give me quite enough allergies to deal with
[20:39:46] <boru> There seems to be a correlation between the two. I can dig out some research, if you're interested.
[20:40:29] <boru> The original correlation was between food allergies and autoimmune diseases, but apparently the former primes your immune system and you get pronounced reactions to other allergens.
[20:40:40] <boru> Quite interesting, really.
[20:40:56] <cmn32480> I've got no food alleriges actually
[20:41:19] <boru> Similarly, people have reported asthma recovery, and eczaema, also. Granted, those and hayfever are related conditions.
[20:41:45] <boru> I think that everyone has at least a mild dairy and gluten allergy.
[20:41:46] <cmn32480> when I was younger (about 17) I took allergy shots and haven't REALLY had a bad year in 20 years
[20:41:57] <boru> Since we're not equipped to properly digest either.
[20:42:10] <cmn32480> I am lactose intolerant
[20:42:19] <boru> Do you consume lactose?
[20:42:27] <cmn32480> not without the OTC pills
[20:42:32] <Deucalion> boru, I had bad hayfever as a kid and had the skin prick panel thing done in my early teens.... everything welted up. Dust, cats, dogs, sausages, ignorance, religion, wheat, chaff - ever damn thing.... welts. I don't really suffer hayfever any more - kinda subsided with age. It's just rapeseed now - it's like getting lego bricks under the eyelids for me.
[20:42:43] <boru> I wonder what might happen if you gave it up entirely.
[20:43:07] <cmn32480> dunno
[20:43:09] <boru> Sounds nasty, Deucalion. Funny how our body chemistry changes like that over time, though.
[20:43:19] <cmn32480> but that means basically ditching dairy altogether
[20:43:19] <boru> Funny, as in interesting.
[20:43:20] <cmn32480> no cheese
[20:43:34] <boru> It's not as hard as it sounds.
[20:43:39] <boru> I did it.
[20:43:49] <nick> fuck that...
[20:43:53] <cmn32480> i might consider it
[20:44:00] <cmn32480> but I have certainly given up the majority of it
[20:44:00] <boru> I gave up grains as well.
[20:44:05] <cmn32480> lactose free milk
[20:44:11] <boru> Just meat, fish, fruit, veg etc.
[20:44:12] <cmn32480> lf ice cream
[20:44:22] <Deucalion> milk free milk and food free ilk
[20:44:24] <Deucalion> oops
[20:44:26] <cmn32480> swiss cheese or other aged cheeses
[20:44:29] <Deucalion> food free food
[20:44:29] <boru> I do miss ice cream, alright, but nothing else.
[20:44:43] <cmn32480> there are other types of ice cream
[20:44:48] <cmn32480> cocnut milk
[20:44:49] <cmn32480> soy
[20:44:55] <cmn32480> *coconut
[20:44:56] <boru> Soy doesn't agree with me.
[20:44:59] <Deucalion> When did ice cream have milk in it anyway? It's just soy and sugar isn;t it?
[20:45:10] <cmn32480> Ben and Jerrys has a bunch of gluten free types
[20:45:24] <cmn32480> for the vegetarians in the world
[20:45:29] <boru> Anyway, for me, personally, I feel a hell of a lot better having given them up.
[20:45:30] <cmn32480> and it is quite tasty
[20:45:37] <cmn32480> I'd believe it
[20:46:08] <boru> No grains == no bread, so I cook a lot more, obviously, but it's good stuff.
[20:46:18] <boru> One can never have enough steak.
[20:46:21] <nick> no bread, no dairy.... what next, no bacon?
[20:46:29] <cmn32480> #smake nick
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[20:46:29] <boru> Goodness no.
[20:46:38] <cmn32480> blasphemer!
[20:46:44] <boru> Yeah man, not cool.
[20:46:52] * Deucalion ponders 1st world problems where people have time to obsess over their diets - cmn32480 go starve for a month, live in the wilderness, shoot a deer, eat it, glut on milk... I'm fairly sure there would be no adverse reaction..... compared to the famine before :D
[20:47:13] <Deucalion> nick, food free food only
[20:47:21] <boru> Pft, as someone who often does just that, I resent the connotation.
[20:47:42] <cmn32480> the milk, if it has lactose in it like cows milk does, would give me the horrifying explosive shits
[20:47:43] <Deucalion> connotation?
[20:48:00] <nick> Deucalion, like those tesco healthy living ready meals?
[20:48:02] <Deucalion> cmn32480, fine way to lose weight. Just stay hydrated :)
[20:48:16] <cmn32480> but rather painful
[20:48:21] <Deucalion> nick, they're not so bad ingredient wise... just small
[20:48:35] <nick> i bought one once for like 80p, and i still felt cheated
[20:48:39] <cmn32480> and what's wrong with shooting and eating a deer?
[20:48:44] <Deucalion> nothing
[20:48:57] <boru> Absolutely nothing.
[20:49:04] <cmn32480> I rather enjoy venison
[20:49:13] <boru> It's not mutually exclusive with considering ones diet, is what I'm getting at.
[20:49:17] <cmn32480> roasted a little over an open fire....
[20:49:29] * cmn32480 is getting hungry
[20:49:38] <boru> I grew up living off the land, and out of the rivers.
[20:49:48] * nick has some chorizo cooking right now
[20:50:07] * cmn32480 always knew nick loved the sausage
[20:50:12] * boru chuckles.
[20:50:23] * Deucalion checks cmn32480#s kids for signs of life.... oh wait you meant a little deer..... I was about to hang you on suspicion of cooking your own kid
[20:50:39] <Deucalion> ^^ see this is how lynch mobs form
[20:50:53] <cmn32480> kids are fine... they enjoy venison too
[20:51:19] <boru> I made rabbit stew the other day.
[20:51:24] <Deucalion> And wtf an I doing around cmn32480's kids.... I should be strung up as a paediatrician
[20:51:29] <boru> Rabbit and root veg.
[20:51:50] <cmn32480> I don't know if I've ever had rabbit
[20:52:04] <boru> Stored and cooked right, it's good eating.
[20:52:11] <boru> They're smelly to gut, though.
[20:52:20] <boru> Not as bad as hares, but still ripe enough.
[20:52:31] <boru> Jugged hare is the worst, but is bloody delicious.
[20:52:53] * cmn32480 has had some other odd stuff.. rattle snake... alligator...
[20:53:02] <boru> Now those are delicassies to me.
[20:53:26] <nick> i dont recommend eating camel
[20:53:35] <boru> Back in my neck of the woods, it's fowl and deer.
[20:53:43] <Deucalion> nick, any pre-prepared food from a supermarket is not cost efficient of course. At least the levels of salt, sugar and artificial flavs have fucked off over the last decade. They still have a place as emergency rations in my freezer.
[20:54:31] <cmn32480> anyway
[20:54:35] <cmn32480> time for me to head home gents
[20:54:39] <cmn32480> everybody have a good weekend
[20:54:41] <Deucalion> bye cmn32480
[20:54:47] <boru> Have a good one, old chap.
[20:54:50] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
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[20:55:00] <nick> Deucalion, i remember on my previous return to the UK... bought a tesco finest chicken tikka... couldn't have been more disappointed after a few weeks of eating rather simple but unprocessed food
[20:55:24] <nick> it's weird how you get used to things of rather low quality
[20:56:01] <boru> I think the asterisk in the tesco finest logo actually means something.
[20:56:09] <boru> As in *not actually finest at all.
[20:56:24] <nick> heh, never thought about it like that
[20:56:49] <Deucalion> nick, you take the fat, sugar, salt and colour out of any "traditional" UK Indian curry - wth do you expect to be left?
[20:57:14] <nick> now i want some duck
[20:57:20] <boru> Here, you live in Cambridge for a while. Where is there a good Indian restaurant?
[20:57:31] <boru> Any I've been to are terrible.
[20:57:39] <boru> Lived, rather.
[20:57:47] <Deucalion> No idea for Cambridge - apologensis.
[20:57:54] <boru> Fiddlesticks.
[20:58:18] <boru> The Indian fellas I work with reckon I'd have to go to East Ham, wherever that is.
[20:58:30] * boru ignorant of UK geography.
[20:59:13] <Deucalion> And you'd have to define "good". Old school Bangladeshi everything cooked in lashings of ghee? Something more refined? East Ham is in London...
[20:59:29] <boru> Aye, I knew it was down that way somewhere.
[20:59:32] <nick> Deucalion, i was about to say... thats quite a way from cambridge
[20:59:46] <boru> Good as in spiced with fresh ingredients, rather than bottles of capsicum and vinegar.
[20:59:56] <nick> might as well go to Southall if you're going that far out of your way
[21:00:06] <boru> Where's that?
[21:00:13] <boru> I try to avoid London at all costs.
[21:00:24] <boru> I presented a paper at a conference there once. Never again.
[21:00:31] <nick> it's the west side of london, west ham is in east london
[21:00:48] <Deucalion> nick, not that far according to my work controllers... apparently central london is the same "area" as Bristol :D I suspect they may be multi-dimensional beings and applying relativity or something
[21:00:50] <boru> What a silly land.
[21:01:04] <nick> but southall is basically little india
[21:01:20] <nick> there's a bridge you can drive over, on the way into southall and the curry smell is like a brick wall
[21:01:33] <boru> Is that pronounced 'south-hall' or 'suddal'? I presume the latter?
[21:01:39] <nick> former
[21:01:47] <boru> Surprising.
[21:02:05] <boru> Not like Leicester, or Rotham or places like that, then.
[21:02:45] <Deucalion> whut's wrong with lester? spelt as Leicester? Seems perfectly fine to me :P
[21:03:20] <boru> Pft, and you give us a hard time over applying a Latin alphabet to a language that predates Latin!
[21:03:41] <Deucalion> I did? Personally?
[21:04:00] <boru> I do laugh when foreigners try to pronounce places like 'Dun Laoghaire'
[21:04:32] <boru> Not you, personally, of course.
[21:05:33] <Deucalion> AAARGH.... A CELT! Oh wait... A VIKING!!! Oh wait... I;m not sure.... aren;t they one in the same? The DailyMail says to hang them and there's some thumbs up... /me hangs boru co the internetz saaid so
[21:05:54] <nick> Deucalion, all us brits look and sound the same
[21:06:02] <boru> Vikings, pft. We drove the Danes out of Dublin. And that's as far as they got!
[21:06:26] <Deucalion> nick, true. Lots of teeth too.
[21:06:31] <nick> although outside the uk, people seem to think i'm australian
[21:06:37] <nick> wish i kept my aussie accent
[21:06:45] <Deucalion> That;s a mixed blessing
[21:06:54] <boru> Aye, there does seem to be a dental crisis in the UK. I could almost see one of those charity ads for people here.
[21:07:09] <boru> "This poor chap can't even eat a sandwich without cutting his hands to pieces"
[21:07:11] <Deucalion> People must be unused to seeing a UK-ite so far off the tourist trail :D
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[21:08:03] <Deucalion> No
[21:08:14] * boru agrees.
[21:08:38] <Deucalion> The putting the IoT things in the bin as a disappointing piece of shit before it ever becomes a problem surely will though
[21:08:39] <nick> uk dental treatment is proof of how successful public-private partnerships can be in healthcare
[21:08:48] <boru> Deucalion++
[21:08:48] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 26
[21:09:16] <boru> I took a break from aero in semiconductors thinking it wouldn't happen, but woe is me, I can't wait to get back to aero.
[21:17:53] <nick> Deucalion, good luck putting your smart fridge in the bin
[21:19:12] <boru> Not to worry, it'll connect over BLE to your smartbin and use its AP to send you updated about the rising temperature.
[21:19:17] <Deucalion> nick, I'm just fine with my incendiary Beko thanks
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[21:20:46] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 13°C/55°F, 6:20 pm GMT-3, Friday, 2 June 2017
[21:20:55] <nick> i can see in the next few years, all appliances being mandated to have 'smart connectivity' for some kind of eco/green initiative
[21:21:52] <boru> I was thoroughly disheartened to see a car ad recently where the main selling point they kept prattling on about was a wireless AP. What could possibly go wrong.
[21:21:58] <nick> not sure what the current status is of the proposals to have cars being fitted with emergency transponders
[21:22:09] <Deucalion> the smart meters would have to come first.... yet those have already diversified such that you have to have a new one from your current supplier... so much for standards and inter-op.
[21:22:44] <boru> Mains grid has always been a circus, though.
[21:23:01] <nick> i know it was an EU initiative, possibly for 2018 if i recall, all new cars needed emergency services connectivity, but one perhaps cynically assumes it will also come with shutdown capabilities.
[21:23:27] <nick> Deucalion, i dont think smart meters have to come first
[21:23:35] <boru> Not to mention 'accident' features.
[21:23:59] <boru> "Oh look, that whistleblower drove his car into a wall head on at 120mph!"
[21:24:28] <Deucalion> No matter, we'll get Capita on the case and it will be sorted in a jiffy, well 2 decades, countless billions down the pan and nothing to show. When that doesn;t pan out, we can ask KPMG to advise then re-employ Capita to do it again. I see nothing wrong with this plan..... (other than the absence of my non-exec board memberships once I retire from pontificating in 6 months)
[21:25:30] <nick> Deucalion, well that's only fair as PwC advised the gov to use capita the first time
[21:25:46] <nick> it's only proper to get another firm to advise them in the same direction the second time
[21:27:50] <Deucalion> True - got to share the candy about fairly.
[21:28:05] <nick> also missed the step about getting JPM and GS to arrange the financing
[21:29:55] <Deucalion> Capita sub-contract to GS for people-resourcing and right sizing exercises... don;t worry about them. I'm just worried that Tech Mahindra hasn't made an obvious showing as of yet.
[21:30:16] <Deucalion> Or was that IBM - Tech Mahindra
[21:31:29] <nick> careful there, don't want to cut out Tata, or they'll hold the steel industry to ransom
[21:34:39] <Deucalion> And Jaguar. Or did Tata sell Jag already?
[21:35:26] <nick> i dont think so, thats why it's still held up as an example of successful british business
[21:35:36] <Deucalion> Wait.... which steel industry? I think they make a few things up in Sheffield still... but beyond that... UK Steel industry.... /me watches a tumbleweed
[21:36:37] <nick> may have been a tiny bit facetious with that remark
[21:36:38] * Deucalion watches UK car industry...... assemble parts of Nissans in Sunderland.... well phew... we have a car industry at least....
[21:37:32] <nick> i'm still annoyed by the top gear segment about the british car industry a few years ago, where they arranged this big display of all the vehicles 'manufactured' in the UK
[21:37:37] <nick> such a load of bullshit
[21:38:22] <nick> made even worse by the years they'd been saying on the show about how they 'just bolt the doors on here' .... but then it became time to fly the flag for how amazing british manufacturing is, with all the nissans
[21:38:38] <Deucalion> That must employ a couple thousand people.... but it will be OK - all that needs to happen is that everyone needs to become a landlord. We can just all rent to each other and with the rising property prices we all become richer on that than we ever could doing anything actually productive. I see no point where this could go wrong....
[21:39:43] <nick> makes me think of the land tax proposal from labour, and then the tory press reacting "HOUSE PRICES WOULD GO DOWN!!!!!!"
[21:39:45] <Deucalion> Oh wait - the banking sector will prop up the economy... or was it "services" that we will export....
[21:40:31] <nick> it used to be UK PLC apparently, soon to be UK LLC (BVI)
[21:41:03] <Deucalion> SHAME SHAME! Can;t have property prices go down, what would happen to all my constituents portfolio values? They may be forced to drink Prosecco all day instead of Champagne.
[21:44:08] * Deucalion heads to vidya land before they get locked up for treasonous thoughts without a password transmitted in the clear or some such BS.
[21:44:24] <Deucalion> Be well all and don;t become as cynical as me FFS :D
[21:45:33] * nick hat tip
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[23:58:59] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
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