#Soylent | Logs for 2017-05-11
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[00:03:37] <nick> http://www.reuters.com
[00:03:37] <charon_> i did consider that. probably should have used it
[00:04:12] <nick> i want some maple syrup
[00:09:37] <charon_> not so many maple trees in the southern hemisphere, eh?
[00:10:13] <nick> maple syrup doesnt exist here from what i can tell
[00:10:16] <nick> not imported
[00:13:38] <charon_> i'll send you a bottle. or will you have to pay import tax?
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[00:36:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Taser/Axon Separating Defense Lawyers From Body Camera Footage Via License Agreements - http://sylnt.us - eulas-superceding-laws
[00:40:38] <chromas> the southern hemisphere has invert maple syrup
[00:44:06] <nick> charon, thanks for the offer... i learn to do without, if i had some it would be sacred as i'd know how difficult it would be to get more
[00:49:16] <charon_> heh, i can imagine you wondering if it's a special enough occasion to use a drop of the precious syrup
[01:03:08] <nick> that's how it would go
[01:03:42] <nick> right now i have one small tin of baked beans
[01:03:54] <nick> i cant eat it until there's some back in the supermarket
[01:57:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tunnel Collapses at Hanford Nuclear Reservation - http://sylnt.us - bury-it
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[02:01:09] <Bytram> https://youtu.be
[02:01:11] <upstart> ^ 03Diving into 1000 Mousetraps in 4K Slow Motion - The Slow Mo Guys - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[02:01:21] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[02:01:22] <upstart> ^ 03Diving into 1000 Mousetraps in 4K Slow Motion - The Slow Mo Guys - YouTube
[02:28:31] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[02:28:43] <chromas> ^ jpeg
[03:28:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Air Force Networks F-15 and F-22 Fighters While in Flight - http://sylnt.us - gotta-update-my-instagram
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[04:56:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Only 36% of Indian Engineers Can Write Compilable Code - http://sylnt.us - skill-upgrade-complete
[04:57:52] <chromas> das racis
[04:59:19] <poutine> I'm curious what the problem was that they were given
[05:00:08] <poutine> What were the conditions also, write all your code in an editor, no other resources and give us the files?
[05:00:36] <poutine> How are the results compared to americans?
[05:02:43] <poutine> Ok I read the PDF, everything is answered except for the problem given
[05:02:46] <chromas> Someone else mentioned that too. I've read the fizzbuzz article. Apparently it's too easy to get a job programming
[05:06:29] <poutine> I always get the "write a function that takes an integer a, and an array of positive non-repeating integers b, and make the function return true if two numbers in b add up to a" question
[05:07:21] <poutine> I recently did Amazon's dev test and it was pretty easy
[06:32:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Skydiver Dangles Under Plane for an Hour, Survives - http://sylnt.us - EXTREME!
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[08:31:30] <Xyem> Could one of the devs look into this: https://soylentnews.org
[08:31:33] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Mice’s Aging Brains Reset to Youthful State by Cannabinoid ( https://soylentnews.org )
[08:31:49] <Xyem> Seems like the Wiki is not working for some people.
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[09:38:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bot Floods the FCC's Website with Anti-Net Neutrality Comments - http://sylnt.us - duplicitous-comments
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[09:47:13] <Bytram> Xyem: Hi! Just saw your msg...thanks for bringing it to our attention! Am looking at it right now
[09:47:28] <Xyem> Thanks :)
[09:47:59] * Bytram opens comment: https://soylentnews.org
[09:48:08] * Bytram clicks on: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:48:18] * Bytram sees finance page open
[09:48:29] * Bytram clicks on https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:48:44] * Bytram sees WhosWho page open
[09:48:52] <Bytram> what's the problem?
[09:49:45] <Xyem> Some people get errors instead. For example:
[09:49:50] <Xyem> Warning: fopen(/var/www/vhosts/wiki/w-new/cache/trusted-xff.cdb): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/vhosts/wiki/w-new/vendor/wikimedia/cdb/src/Reader/PHP.php on line 69
[09:50:23] <Bytram> that's not good.
[09:50:37] * Bytram reads the discussion tree around prev comment
[09:50:57] <Bytram> this comment: https://soylentnews.org
[09:51:00] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Mice’s Aging Brains Reset to Youthful State by Cannabinoid ( https://soylentnews.org )
[09:51:10] <Xyem> Some people get different errors but at different times.
[09:51:14] <Bytram> says:
[09:51:14] <Bytram> Hmm, I get the same IP address. But things are happening right now, because about half an hour ago I got "nothing for you to see here, move along" messages, trying to connect with "&from=rss" in the URL. And all the pages looked like the CSS was missing. At the moment everything looks fine again.
[09:51:28] * Bytram tries adding &from=rss to urls...
[09:51:48] * Bytram tries: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:52:07] <Bytram> which should NOT work -- malformed url
[09:52:17] * Bytram tries: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:52:30] * Bytram sees finances page load
[09:52:48] * Bytram tries: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:53:00] * Bytram sees WhosWho page load.
[09:53:04] <Bytram> but....
[09:54:01] <Bytram> if they are adding "&from=rss", that suggests that there is another parameter added to their url which preceeds the &from=rss
[09:54:06] <Xyem> Could those getting errors be accessing it through a proxy, running down a error-generating code path?
[09:54:25] <Bytram> list of parameters starts with "?"... all subsequent ones start with "&"
[09:54:52] <Bytram> I suppose that is possible... but I'd sooner think that we are not seeing the ENTIRE url they are using.
[09:55:17] <Bytram> then again, our servers occasionally need to be bounced to clean out caches and gremlins
[09:56:04] <Xyem> Yeah, it works fine from my home connection (not proxied) but I see the error from my work connection.
[09:56:51] <Bytram> I'm pretty sure that I could do that, but it's not something I've done before and it runs the risk of making things worse than they currently are... server down as opposed to being not entirely responsive to some people
[09:57:07] <Bytram> Oh, you CAN reproduce the problem?
[09:57:20] <Xyem> Seems so. Anything I can do from here to get some more information for you?
[09:57:53] <Bytram> pls give me the EXACT url you are using, and if you are clicking on a link on a page somewhere, pls give me THAT link
[09:57:54] <Xyem> Looking at the error, it seems the wiki is checking if the proxy can be trusted, but is missing the "trusted proxy" file is missing (trusted-xff.cdb).
[09:58:23] <Xyem> I open a new tab, paste in "https://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Finances" and get the error.
[09:58:26] <upstart> ^ 03Finances" - SoylentNews ( https://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[09:58:53] <Bytram> urggg.
[09:58:58] <Xyem> https://wiki.soylentnews.org also gives the error, it isn't that specific page.
[09:58:59] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews ( https://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[09:59:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: paulej72: ^^^^^^ is beyond my ken. Would you please take a look at this? Seems like there is an issue with accessing the wiki from behind a proxy.
[10:01:00] <Xyem> Thanks for looking at it, Bytram.
[10:01:10] <Bytram> Xyem: just to confirm we are looking at the same thing...
[10:01:31] <Bytram> would you please do this: ping wiki.soylentnews.org and paste the response here?
[10:01:55] <Bytram> only need a couple pings worth
[10:02:32] <Bytram> ping -n 2 wiki.soylentnews.org
[10:03:27] * Bytram assumes Xyem is using an IPv4 address and not IPv6, right?
[10:03:55] <Xyem> Pings are blocked from the proxied connection. It resolves to 72.14.184.41 though, same as my home connection, which gives: http://codepad.org
[10:03:55] <upstart> ^ 03Plain Text code- 8 lines - codepad
[10:05:15] <Bytram> yeah, we are on a VPS... IIUC, there are multiple domains hosted on that IP addy, but now we're getting a bit out of my area of expertise... lemme check something. brb
[10:05:39] <Xyem> I'm not sure, but I don't believe so. Web-based IPv6 test says it isn't, if that helps. http://test-ipv6.com
[10:05:39] <upstart> ^ 03Test your IPv6.
[10:06:37] <Bytram> yeah, I would expect NO collision on IPv6
[10:10:49] <Bytram> finally... found the web site I was looking for: https://www.robtex.com
[10:10:50] <upstart> ^ 03Robtex
[10:12:45] <Bytram> hrmmm
[10:12:57] <Bytram> https://www.robtex.com
[10:13:02] <upstart> ^ 03wiki.soylentnews.org
[10:13:10] <boru> Ah, robtex -- haven't heard of that site in a while.
[10:13:59] <Bytram> I didn't much care for the site redesign, but is seems to be a "swiss army knife" or usable tools.
[10:14:18] <Bytram> https://www.robtex.com
[10:14:20] <upstart> ^ 0372.14.184.41 ( https://www.robtex.com )
[10:14:29] <boru> Well, most of the tools it uses are on your average unix box.
[10:14:56] <boru> But yeah, I prefered the old site design.
[10:15:11] * Bytram is currently stuck on Win 7 Pro, but notwithstanding that, it ALSO provides the ability to see things from THEIR site and perspective on the net, too. =)
[10:15:58] <boru> My condolences.
[10:16:10] <boru> Anyway, time for lunch.
[10:16:11] <Bytram> mare sea
[10:16:12] * boru &
[10:16:59] <Bytram> looks like all domain names associated with 72.14.184.41 belong to us. beats me!
[10:17:08] <Bytram> and I need to get back to bed! Woke up way too early, and it's my day off!
[10:17:12] <Bytram> laters!
[10:17:22] <Xyem> Sleep well, thanks again.
[10:18:10] <Bytram> hth, wish I could have been MORE helpful, but sadly have been unable to reproduce from my end... hopefully the devs on this site can provide better info...
[10:19:33] <Xyem> Just knowing the people to direct this too helped, no worries :)
[10:19:37] <Xyem> to*
[10:19:50] <Bytram> btw, how do you want them to get back to you?
[10:20:30] <Xyem> They can just highlight me on IRC, I'll stick around.
[10:20:48] <Bytram> good good!
[10:21:18] <Bytram> best of luck -- laters!
[10:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:24:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3423
[10:49:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Xyem, could you give it a look now? think i fixed it.
[10:50:17] <Xyem> TheMightyBuzzard: Yes, it works now :)
[10:50:31] <Xyem> May I ask what the issue was?
[10:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. it was just missing that file from when NCommander fixed something else.
[10:51:06] <Xyem> Fair enough. Thanks for getting it fixed!
[10:51:23] * TheMightyBuzzard tips hat and goes back to coffee
[11:16:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DSL Inventor's Latest Science Project: Terabit Speeds over Copper - http://sylnt.us - low-fiber-diet
[11:21:37] <CoolHand> I ran across this nice Guardians of the Galaxy/*nix comic strip this morning.. http://hit-comic.com
[11:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, HA!
[11:28:43] <CoolHand> :D
[12:02:31] <NCommander> What did I break?
[12:05:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> it doesn't matter, we're blame any and all breakage on you. =P
[12:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, proxy checking on the wiki. it needed a good proxies db file. balked without one.
[12:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just copied the old one over and it got on with its business
[12:45:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Knows Windows is Obsolete. Here's a Sneak Peek at Its Replacement. - http://sylnt.us - what-security-issue?
[12:53:29] <boru> Glorious. Hopefully games companies will move away from windows entirely.
[13:59:51] * cmn32480 needs moar coffee++
[13:59:55] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:59:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3424
[14:00:38] <boru> whiskey++
[14:00:38] <Bender> karma - whiskey: 15
[14:17:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Freezes Contractor Hires to Keep Full-time Workers Fully Occupied - http://sylnt.us - using-what-you've-already-got
[15:24:16] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:24:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3425
[15:26:50] <Bytram> !uid
[15:26:50] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6591, owned by yossefyasser
[15:27:00] <Bytram> whereto? Volta
[15:27:01] <Bytram> ooops.
[15:27:14] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.hpcwire.com
[15:27:17] <upstart> ^ 03NVIDIA Launches Revolutionary Volta GPU Platform, Fueling Next Era of AI and High Performance Computing ( https://www.hpcwire.com )
[15:28:19] <Bytram> https://www.hpcwire.com
[15:28:20] <upstart> ^ 03Nvidia's Mammoth Volta GPU Aims High for AI, HPC
[15:28:50] <Bytram> One thing is undeniable about the Volta V100: it is a giant chip, 33 percent larger than the Pascal P100 and once again “the biggest GPU ever made.” Fabricated by TSMC on a custom 12-nm FFN high performance manufacturing process, the V100 GPU squeezes 21.1 billion transistors and almost 100 billion via connectors on a die size of 815 mm2, about the size of the Apple watch, said Huang.
[15:30:53] <SoyGuest93122> I wonder what the yields are like on 12nm with those dimensions?
[15:31:28] <Bytram> “It is at the limits of photolithography,” Huang told the crowd. “You can’t make a chip any bigger than this because transistors would fall on the ground. Every single transistor that is possible to make by today’s physics was crammed into this processor.”
[15:32:29] <Bytram> https://www.hpcwire.com
[15:32:29] <Bytram> I suspect there are... issues
[15:32:30] <upstart> ^ 03IBM Unveils New AI Software, Will Support Nvidia Volta
[15:32:34] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:32:42] <Bytram> In addition to the coming DGX-1 Volta refresh, Nvidia also released the new DGX Station. Billed as a “personal supercomputer for AI development,” DGX Station provides four NVLink-connected Tesla V100s to deliver 480 (peak) Tensor teraflops in a 1,500 watt water-cooled chassis for $69,000.
[15:35:04] <Bytram> looks like EACH chip costs on the order of $16,000
[15:36:25] <Bytram> https://www.nvidia.com
[15:37:51] <Bytram> https://www.nvidia.com
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[15:49:19] <Bytram> oh joy. :/ http://threatpost.com
[15:49:21] <upstart> ^ 03Keylogger Found in Audio Drivers on Some HP Machines | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ( https://threatpost.com )
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[15:50:16] <SoyGuest93122> maybe they're playing a size-based willy-waving game, perhaps a smaller chip with higher yield would have made more sense?
[15:52:07] <SoyGuest93122> 7.5 FP64 TFlops. Damn, I could have fun with that.
[15:53:37] <SoyGuest93122> not sure where the 480 comes from. 15 (FP32 Tflops) * 4 = 60. What's a "Tensor" Tflop?
[15:53:39] <Bytram> given they claim to be using a 12nm spacing, I think they are about as dense as they could make it... so the only other alternative, given more transistors to put on the chip, is to make it larger... and they took THAT to the max, as well.
[15:54:28] <Bytram> I dunno
[15:54:33] <SoyGuest93122> or you trade interconnects for die size (yield) as per Amdahl's law.
[15:55:19] <SoyGuest93122> most of the stuff these things work on is embarassingly parallel
[15:55:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Git 2.13 Released - http://sylnt.us - get-git
[15:56:04] <SoyGuest93122> Ah, apparently a "tensor" tflop is a thing, and indeed, it's 120 of them,
[15:56:59] <Bytram> so ten-dozen things... that must be a LOT!
[15:57:02] <Bytram> ;)
[15:57:59] <SoyGuest93122> google finds me nothing but nvidia stories. I think they made it up!
[16:02:32] <Bytram> though I had little to do with it except watch classmates complain about it, "Statics" and "Tensors" were courses at college... having to do with 3-d modeling from little I gleaned from them.
[16:07:35] <Bytram> break time... hope to check in later this afternoon.
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[17:27:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Reporter Arrested for "Yelling Questions" at HHS Secretary Tom Price - http://sylnt.us - paying-the-price-for-freedom-of-the-press
[17:27:35] <cmn32480> ~join #fite
[17:30:55] <Bytram> oh... was it that easy to get exec to join #fite? Doh!
[17:31:18] <cmn32480> yep
[17:36:58] <Bytram> laters!
[18:57:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Publishers Try New Tack to Combat Unauthorized Paper Sharing - http://sylnt.us - I-read-that-somewhere
[20:26:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Buzz Aldrin: Retire the ISS to Reach Mars - http://sylnt.us - one-small-orbit-for-man
[21:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Genome Project-write Still Looking for Funding - http://sylnt.us - made-to-order-human-cells
[21:56:17] <chromas> dungeons 2 free in humblebundle store
[21:56:27] <chromas> https://www.humblebundle.com
[21:56:28] <upstart> ^ 03The Humble Store: Great games. Fantastic prices. Support charity.
[21:56:30] <exec> └─ 13The Humble Store: Great games. Fantastic prices. Support charity.
[22:03:50] <chromas> ~title off
[22:03:51] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[22:23:46] <takyon> da fuk is dungeons 2
[22:24:02] <takyon> nothing viewable without scriptz..
[22:24:58] <takyon> it looks like either Torchlight or Dungeon Keeper
[22:46:23] <chromas> Some sort of rts
[22:47:02] <boru> Dungeons 2 is a DK clone. It's fun for a few days.
[22:47:26] <boru> Not quite as fun as DK, though.
[22:47:30] * chromas remembers Donkey Kong
[22:47:42] <boru> Dungeon Keeper, you eejit.
[22:48:58] * chromas throws a DK barrel
[23:25:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Spheres Add to Seattle's Quirky Architecture - http://sylnt.us - dot-com-bubble