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[00:01:04] <boru> http://www.phrack.org
[00:01:06] <upstart> ^ 03.:: Phrack Magazine ::.
[00:01:31] <boru> Phrack has good pedigree. Some good writeups over the years.
[00:01:52] <boru> The phenomenon that article describes is far more reaching, imho.
[00:19:04] <mechanicjay> boru: thanks, saving that article for later
[00:19:30] <boru> Sure thing.
[00:19:42] <nick> just read it... there has been a dramatic shift in how people interact with the internet... what was a great thing full of possibilities and opportunities has become something of a trap
[00:20:23] <boru> Aye, information superhighway to commericial, privacy enroaching quagmire.
[00:20:33] <boru> I lament the old 'Net.
[00:20:56] <nick> the whole /. beta thing signified the end of the ol' net to me
[00:21:22] <boru> Oh, it died long before that, for me personally.
[00:21:30] <nick> cultural and social attitudes have very much changed in regards to privacy and communications
[00:21:40] <nick> i don't disagree, but it was a symbolic end to me
[00:22:10] <boru> Aye, I get what you're saying.
[00:23:57] <nick> is still kind of weird to me, i'm in my late 20's and how much has changed... when i was still in highschool, communicating on the internet was not done by my peers, was the nerdy thing... but i was inspired and interested in technology and the possibilities
[00:24:14] <nick> but now, i want less and less to do with it, and i'm the one who doesn't have a facebook.
[00:24:53] <boru> Aye, you're in that set of people described by that phrack article, I suspect.
[00:28:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mauritius: Safe Haven for Nonhuman Primate Experimentation? - http://sylnt.us - monkey-business
[00:28:11] <nick> pretty much, i have become very disillusioned with the state of technology, how it's been marketed and used for the most part.
[00:28:58] <nick> and it very much seems like now, it's too late to reverse course on that, and there's now a generation of people who have known nothing else
[00:31:58] <boru> Well, the 'Net was designed to be decentralised. I think there'll be a resurgence of that.
[00:32:21] <boru> I'm resurrecting my BBS/NNTP server.
[00:54:36] <nick> we can do what we can, but it's very much fighting the tide it feels like, the walled gardens are not just built by hardware/software vendors, they're also being built by ISP and .govs
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[02:56:02] <Bytram> http://www.cs.uni.edu
[02:56:03] <upstart> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: May 2017 Archives
[02:57:39] <Bytram> http://www.cs.uni.edu
[02:57:40] <upstart> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: May 2017 Archives
[02:57:45] <Bytram> https://martinfowler.com
[02:57:46] <upstart> ^ 03BeckDesignRules
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[03:23:00] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 18°C/64°F, 12:22 am GMT-3, Friday, 5 May 2017
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[07:37:58] <jasassin> ok im kinda stumped need some help. just for shits and giggles this is.
[07:38:35] <jasassin> you know how when you click on avg customer rating on amazon and always comes up with the highest avg customer ratings first and then you have to click click like 500 pages of shit
[07:38:46] <jasassin> theres no way (that i can find) to get to the last page....
[07:38:53] <jasassin> is this possible?
[07:39:30] <jasassin> i tried looking at the url but couldn't find anything special between the weirdo link for page one and page two
[07:39:39] <jasassin> its just random shit it seems like
[07:40:39] * chromas doesn't see that button
[07:41:51] <jasassin> just search for something like ssd
[07:42:20] <jasassin> at the top right corner is sort by drop down
[07:42:51] <chromas> oh I see
[07:43:14] <jasassin> but just for fun, i want to see the WORST avg reviews
[07:43:17] <jasassin> see what i mean?
[07:45:09] <chromas> Yep. You can put in a high page number and click from there
[07:45:28] <jasassin> where do i put in the page number? i coudn't find it in the url
[07:46:08] <chromas> it's in there; parameter page=
[07:46:43] <chromas> hm but it also has ref=sr+pg_2
[07:48:19] <chromas> Looks like the ref parameter can be ignored. page is the important one
[07:51:19] <jasassin> ok thanks chromas!
[07:51:22] <jasassin> i was blind
[07:51:27] <jasassin> you rock bra!
[07:51:29] <jasassin> chromas++
[07:51:29] <Bender> karma - chromas: 185
[07:52:29] <chromas> You'll get a "did not match any products" if your page value's too high
[07:52:35] <chromas> You ar emost welcome, good sir
[07:52:43] <chromas> me tips ten-gallon hat
[07:52:47] * chromas %message%
[07:55:24] <lemon> nice
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[09:20:48] <exec> welcome alexbst: London, UK, 13°C/56°F, 10:20 am GMT+1, Friday, 5 May 2017
[09:33:37] <jasassin> pfffft hahahahahhahahah oh fuck this is a good one
[09:34:42] <jasassin> the samsung evo ssd drives you order them from amazon and you get FUCKED they last like 3 or 4 months and burn out and the model number the advertise is b/am but its from the netherlands and the shipping from USA to netherlands and back is like $160
[09:34:45] <jasassin> hahahahahhahaha
[09:35:07] <SoyGuest93122> anyone got an actual answer to this problem: https://unix.stackexchange.com
[09:35:09] <upstart> ^ 03filesystems - vfat not recognized in debian - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
[09:35:11] <jasassin> what a scam
[09:35:20] <jasassin> yes
[09:35:24] <SoyGuest93122> I'm desperate. those are tragically bad answers, though
[09:35:27] <jasassin> you need to do a modprobe vfat
[09:35:37] <jasassin> sudo modprobe vfat
[09:37:45] <jasassin> the filesystem vfat usually isn't compiled into default kernels... if your system doesn't load it automagically you'll have to load it manually
[09:37:54] <jasassin> sudo modprobe vfat
[09:38:14] <jasassin> if that doesn't work your installation doesn't have a vfat module for the kernel
[09:40:51] <jasassin> you'll have to install a new kernel or reconfigure yours adding vfat under filsystems and recomopile and reinstall it
[09:41:23] <jasassin> i think even old debian installs would have a vfat module though
[09:43:37] <jasassin> i wonder if they are real samsung drives or if its a hoax
[09:44:36] <jasassin> if someone sold me a drive with a 5 year warranty and i found out i had to spend $6Million dollars to RMA it to the moon I'd be pissed!
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[10:07:50] <jasassin> i think someones half a chromosome away from fuckign downe syndrome
[10:10:05] <jasassin> bill nye, you fucking sell out... i lost all respect for you
[10:11:36] <alexbst> heh
[10:13:31] <jasassin> hah im reading through the customer reviews on amazon some funny shit
[10:13:34] <jasassin> i figured it out
[10:13:55] <jasassin> i always wondered who these assholes were on ebay selling steam codes at black market prices
[10:14:14] <jasassin> heheheh heh heh you know hahah this review says it all
[10:14:29] <jasassin> It's nothing wrong with the product itself, but did not recieve the promotion code for Watch Dogs 2. I have contacted Samsung and they said it's up to Amazon to honor the promotion.
[10:14:33] <jasassin> hhahhahaha
[10:14:56] <jasassin> the assholes that sell the samsung drives hork the promo codes and fuck the customers and then sell the shit on ebay
[10:15:09] <jasassin> these motherfucking resellers on amazon are PRICELESS
[10:16:36] <jasassin> working every fucking angle at the same time
[10:29:40] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[10:29:40] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[10:29:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:29:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3411
[10:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoyGuest93122, jasassin, didn't they move vfat to fuse a while back?
[10:38:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, that was ntfs. my bad.
[10:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoyGuest93122, have you done a kernel update recently and not rebooted yet? i've had that cause this very issue before.
[11:16:08] <jasassin> hey tmb
[11:16:25] <jasassin> remember when we were talking about make local_modconfig orwhatever
[11:16:34] <jasassin> and you said you didn't like that because you want all the shit to work out of the box
[11:16:58] <jasassin> its funny because i was using localdepmod and wanvted to use a flash drive of mine and the fucking thing was vfat so i had to reboot to the stock kernel heh
[11:18:00] <jasassin> anyone tried any of these new schedulers?
[11:18:41] <jasassin> i as thinking about recompiling for full desktop non latency option if i could find it ahhh fully pre-emptive
[11:18:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> jasassin, was smokin
[11:19:14] <jasassin> wahhh? me?
[11:19:19] <jasassin> nahhhhhh
[11:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, me.
[11:19:49] <jasassin> what we have here... is a failure to communicate
[11:20:09] * jasassin cuts the heads off a few parking meters
[11:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatcha do in that case is make your own local_modconfig conf file what lists out all the modules you want built
[11:20:34] <jasassin> yeah total pita
[11:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> or plug everything in at once and then make local_modconfig
[11:20:51] <jasassin> fuck all that kconfig bullshit
[11:20:55] <jasassin> what a nightmare
[11:21:18] <jasassin> i just flip a switch and see if the lights turn on
[11:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking local_modconfig is primarily for servers that ain't never gonna change
[11:21:34] <jasassin> i hear yeah
[11:21:37] <jasassin> but....
[11:21:41] <jasassin> its kinda interesting
[11:21:56] <jasassin> as long as you have a system running with all the shit you need
[11:22:10] <jasassin> you can just run the command and it works
[11:22:22] <jasassin> but like you said
[11:22:25] <jasassin> if one thing changes
[11:22:27] <jasassin> blap
[11:22:35] <jasassin> no vfat for you
[11:22:51] <jasassin> oh well
[11:23:08] <jasassin> tmb, theres no fucking way in hell im recompiling all the modules on a stock kernel
[11:23:22] <jasassin> it takes my system well over 4 hours
[11:23:55] <jasassin> with localmod maybe 20 minutes for kernel and modules and install
[11:24:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> suck. mine manages it every kernel version bump in like 15m
[11:24:13] <jasassin> fuck you
[11:24:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell even my laptop manages it in an hour and it's a pos
[11:24:42] <jasassin> i didn't even get a free toaster with this thing
[11:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame. you coulda slapped gentoo on it.
[11:25:29] <jasassin> oh yeah
[11:25:51] <jasassin> watch it try to run gentoo for about a week an then esplode
[11:26:23] <jasassin> if i tried to run gentoo on this pos the magic geenie would come flying out of the bottle
[11:26:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> could try calculate. gentoo but with a binary overlay.
[11:26:53] <jasassin> it wouldn't grant me any wishes, just a blue screen
[11:27:01] <jasassin> meh fuck that
[11:27:10] <jasassin> fedora with localmod
[11:27:12] <jasassin> works fine
[11:27:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'pretty nice really. no systemd.
[11:27:28] <jasassin> if i were to go that route i'd go openbsd with ports
[11:27:36] <jasassin> no wait
[11:27:38] <jasassin> sorry
[11:27:40] <jasassin> i misspoke
[11:27:44] <jasassin> i did smoke
[11:27:48] <jasassin> i mean freebsd
[11:27:49] <jasassin> sorry
[11:27:56] <jasassin> FUCK openbsd
[11:28:19] <jasassin> if you want a router openbsd is ok my problem with openbsd
[11:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> binary overlay means no compiling
[11:28:33] <jasassin> ok correct me if im wrong tmb
[11:28:59] <jasassin> but doesn't lennart still fag out and copyright the "layout" of the openbsd iso images so they are "copyrighted"?
[11:29:15] * TheMightyBuzzard has no idea
[11:29:23] <jasassin> that was kinda his gig
[11:29:41] <jasassin> he copyrights the "layout" of the iso images so you can't really install openbsd without buying it
[11:29:50] <jasassin> but you can try to jump trhough a thousand hoops to install it
[11:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never kept up with *bsd since the bsdi days
[11:29:55] <jasassin> thats the gist of it i get
[11:30:12] <jasassin> freebsd cool
[11:30:15] <jasassin> openbsd facist
[11:30:43] <jasassin> im gonna go check on that as soon as i finish this smoke
[11:31:08] <jasassin> i bet ya can't download the openbsd isos
[11:31:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, rust 1.17 been out for like a week and still ain't in the gentoo repo.
[11:31:57] <jasassin> gentoo is getting rusty?
[11:32:04] * jasassin slaps himself
[11:32:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> got half a mind to uninstall the system-wide repo version and put a manually updated version in my home dir
[11:32:47] <jasassin> sounds like that would be fun trying to compile shit
[11:35:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah it's pretty easy to build
[11:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got 1.17 on beryllium already
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[11:39:01] <jasassin> C gives me a headache rust just makes me swoon... blarg
[11:39:19] <jasassin> in my simple mind, it's like a layer of shit on C
[11:39:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> rust gives me a happy. it's much harder to manage a fencepost error or a race condition.
[11:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nearly impossible to overflow a memory allocation without using explicitly unsafe code.
[11:42:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i'm coding in vim and i haven't managed any significant vulnerabilities in MrPlow
[11:48:28] <jasassin> i was wrong
[11:48:39] <jasassin> lennart doesn't have those copyright iso's anymore
[11:48:45] <jasassin> it's totally different
[12:23:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:23:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3412
[12:23:56] <Bytram> !uid
[12:23:56] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6587, owned by idiot_king
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[12:35:02] <Bytram> time to get ready for work... have a great day everyone!
[12:37:14] <paulej72> ~gday #Soylent
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[12:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday paulej72
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[13:36:15] <jasassin> omfg i need help
[13:36:19] <jasassin> grub2
[13:37:25] <jasassin> i have removed all the files and shit, but when i run /sbin/grub2-mkconfig it keeps pulling old kernles out of its ass
[13:37:34] <jasassin> so i have a list of old shit i dont have on my system anymore
[13:37:46] <jasassin> and i have no idea where the fuck grub2-mkconfig is getting this shit from
[13:37:49] <jasassin> araghghaghghgh
[13:44:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[13:45:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> gets it from the scripts
[13:46:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> jasassin, /etc/grub.d/*
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[14:24:33] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 12°C/53°F, 7:24 am GMT-7, Friday, 5 May 2017
[14:24:33] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 12°C/53°F, 7:24 am GMT-7, Friday, 5 May 2017
[14:27:42] <mechanicjay> nick boru just caught up on the scrollback -- totally in the luddite technologist group myself. Been spending more and more time in newsgroups lately. Its just a more genuine interaction.
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[14:43:28] <jasassin> that grub2 shit really got to me
[14:43:32] <jasassin> had me going for awhile there
[14:43:40] <jasassin> totally fuckered my system
[14:43:47] <jasassin> had to grab a flash drive to fix it
[14:44:14] <jasassin> i feel sorry for the motherfucker and tries to fix their system using the grub boot prompt
[14:44:17] <jasassin> what a nightmare
[14:44:55] <jasassin> finally got my shit working... had to run grub2-mkconfig -o grub2.cfg
[14:45:06] <jasassin> you have to specifiy the -o and the file you want it to go to
[14:45:12] <jasassin> it doesn't just magically work!
[14:45:13] <jasassin> ahhhhhh
[14:45:17] <jasassin> if only i knew that
[14:46:08] <jasassin> holy shit it takes a long time to install openbsd on a virtual machien on my shitty computer
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[14:47:06] <paulej72> jasassin: time to get a less shitty computer
[14:47:11] <jasassin> meh
[14:47:14] <jasassin> time to get a job
[14:47:50] <jasassin> fuck that i just spent 12 bucks putting 2 more gigs of ram in this pos
[14:47:57] <jasassin> im riding this into the ground
[14:50:46] <jasassin> you know paulej72, i always see some cool new computer
[14:50:58] <jasassin> and just as an example my friend just dropped like 5 grand on one
[14:51:22] <jasassin> and now 6 months later its like well if i knew that was coming out
[14:51:25] <jasassin> blah blah
[14:51:52] <paulej72> did he seriously over paid, or is it a server computer with 20+ cores
[14:52:08] <jasassin> nah
[14:52:31] <jasassin> its an i7 with the super mobo and the case that looks like something from a sci fi movie
[14:52:37] <jasassin> with the m2 drive and the ssd drives
[14:52:52] <jasassin> and the fucking mass video card
[14:53:06] <paulej72> Oh one of "thoes" computers.
[14:53:23] <jasassin> yeah liquid cooled
[14:54:10] <jasassin> kinda funny
[14:54:22] <jasassin> his video card cost more than i ever spent on all my computer shit combined
[14:56:22] <jasassin> yeah, he spent about 6 months figuring all the shit he wanted... it wasn't an impulse buy
[14:56:38] <jasassin> he said future proofing
[14:56:43] <jasassin> i dont believe thats possible
[14:57:20] <jasassin> wtf i gave this shitty vm a gig of ram and its just having a hard time
[14:57:34] <jasassin> i wish i had a computer with the vtx blah blah virtualization shit up the ying yang
[14:58:09] <jasassin> i can only virtualize 32 bit os :(
[14:59:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> jasassin: you're right, there's no such thing as "future proofing".
[14:59:58] <jasassin> thats what i thought
[15:00:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> So what I do is just figure out what my current needs are, and then buy something that handles a bit more than that.
[15:00:47] <jasassin> whats really fucked up is when they bring out a new model of video card, and it has worse performance than previous gen
[15:01:16] <jasassin> andy, i haven't bought a new computer in a LONG time
[15:01:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> But if you buy a "future proof" computer today, we're just going to come out with "advanced AGP" or something that didn't even exist commercially when you bought and you'll still have to replace it.
[15:01:43] <jasassin> yes^^
[15:02:08] <jasassin> and it always happens like the fucking day after you get your shit working
[15:02:13] <jasassin> its like GRRRRRR
[15:02:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> jasassin: I built my desktop in 2011; I upgraded RAM once and video card once but it's still mostly the same box... and I figure I'll get another 4 to 6 years out of it.
[15:02:32] <jasassin> hell yeah!
[15:03:11] * jasassin farts for about thirty seconds ending in a liquid shart
[15:03:12] <jasassin> i went from 2 to 4 gigs of ram for under 15 bucks just because i like to fart with virtual machines
[15:05:02] <jasassin> i had to enable I/O APIC in System->Motherboard configuration under virtualbox to get openbsd to install
[15:06:00] <paulej72> doubling my ram and cnaging to a ssd on my old Macbook Pro made it like a new machine
[15:06:33] <jasassin> i bet it was mostly the ssd
[15:06:40] <jasassin> how much ram did it have before the upgrade?
[15:06:50] <paulej72> the ram helped with running the dev vm
[15:06:59] <paulej72> 4 to 8
[15:07:09] <jasassin> nice!
[15:07:10] <paulej72> machine is maxed out now with ram
[15:07:13] <jasassin> are you using all 8?
[15:07:41] <paulej72> when I have a vm running I can be
[15:08:21] <jasassin> your machien have the nifty vtx virtualization stuff/
[15:08:46] <jasassin> i mean you can vm 64 bit os?
[15:09:51] <jasassin> this I/O APIC setting really makes virtualbox shit the bed
[15:10:15] <jasassin> i wonder if the system will boot after install if i disable it
[15:10:30] <jasassin> weeee fun stuff to try
[15:11:23] <paulej72> yes I can do 64 bit guest os
[15:11:27] <jasassin> can you set virtualbox to use 2 cores on a 2 core machine?
[15:11:35] <jasassin> i dont think so im not sure
[15:11:57] <jasassin> yeah you have the good machine
[15:12:21] <jasassin> i can hear the monkeys slapping around the abacus inside this dell
[15:17:27] <jasassin> omfg this seems artificially slow
[15:17:36] <jasassin> like even a virtual machine can't do this
[15:18:56] <jasassin> 18 minutes to install the base package and another 18 for the compiler
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[15:25:04] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 22°C/71°F, 12:25 pm GMT-3, Friday, 5 May 2017
[15:27:00] <jasassin> well at least it's only using one core
[15:27:05] <jasassin> i'll watch some deep space 9
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[16:17:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - San Bernardino Victims' Families Sue Twitter, Google and Facebook - http://sylnt.us - someone's-gotta-pay!
[16:20:17] <mechanicjay> What are everyone's favorite rss feeds?
[17:12:28] <jasassin> goats.ex/rss
[17:16:21] <jasassin> who needs rss when you have git pull?
[17:22:24] <jasassin> setting tty flags
[17:22:28] <jasassin> pf enabled
[17:22:34] <jasassin> oh you always gotta set the tty flags
[17:22:38] <jasassin> pf alaways enable that
[17:23:57] <jasassin> machdep.allowaperture: 0 -> 2
[17:24:01] <jasassin> OH IM GETTING WET!
[17:24:26] <mechanicjay> I"m not sure of any news sites that publish their content as a git repo...
[17:24:30] <jasassin> starting RPC daemons: OH IM GETTING CLOSE
[17:24:38] <mechanicjay> but that'd be an interesting distribution mechanism
[17:25:28] <jasassin> kern.securelevel: 0 -> 1
[17:25:38] <jasassin> oh its gonna happen
[17:26:17] <jasassin> ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!! ALIVE!!!!!!!!!
[17:27:41] <jasassin> ok wait
[17:28:02] <jasassin> so if i forget my password in a virtual machine do i have to boot a virtual machine inside virtual machien to recover my password?
[17:31:45] <swiss> what
[17:31:56] <swiss> why would you boot a second vm inside the vm
[17:32:20] <jasassin> how would you get your password from a virtual machine that you done know the password to?
[17:32:56] <jasassin> start an openbsd in a virtual machine but you forget the password to login to it
[17:33:54] <jasassin> how do you start the virtual machine inside a virtual machine to hack it?
[17:36:15] <jasassin> think about it
[17:37:11] <jasassin> im sure im missing something
[17:37:16] <jasassin> but i dont know how to do that
[17:42:38] <mechanicjay> why not start the vm in single user mode and reset the password from there?
[17:45:33] <swiss> or mount the HD from the vm and change the password in /etc/shadow
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[17:49:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> jasassin: you start a second virtual machine and mount the first's virtual disk in that.
[17:50:30] <jasassin> ah hah
[17:50:36] <jasassin> thank you andy
[17:50:51] <jasassin> are are gettding down and dirty hear
[17:51:01] <jasassin> here
[17:51:07] <jasassin> heaaaaay
[17:51:13] <jasassin> andy the genius
[17:51:25] <jasassin> andy andy bo bandy thank you so much for that one
[17:51:29] <jasassin> super amazing
[17:51:36] <jasassin> fucking a
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[17:52:39] <jasassin> it might sound simple to you
[17:52:44] <jasassin> but i was confounded
[17:54:01] <jasassin> oh i know the passwords
[17:54:07] <jasassin> it was just a scenario imaginary
[17:54:39] <jasassin> i got an openbsd desktop running on this pos im typing on now
[17:55:02] <jasassin> now i gotta run the booting outout apic
[17:55:15] <jasassin> i bet it wont work
[17:58:07] <jasassin> does anyone know how to get the virtualbox modules to compile on a kernel that is in your home direcotry?
[17:58:09] <jasassin> i did it once
[17:58:15] <jasassin> i can't get it work anymore
[17:58:33] <jasassin> sad
[18:00:01] <jasassin> hahhahahaa
[18:01:15] <jasassin> there are no guest additions for openbsd
[18:01:22] <paulej72> i am not a bot
[18:01:24] <jasassin> openbsd is shit in virtualbox
[18:01:32] <jasassin> yes you are
[18:01:41] <jasassin> well you might not be a bot
[18:01:53] <jasassin> but you cannnnnn.... almost shooot the straaaaaaihgt shot
[18:03:01] <jasassin> yeah, you'd have to be hard up to run openbsd in a virtual machine
[18:03:07] <jasassin> time to nuke it from orbit
[18:04:22] <jasassin> fuck openbsd
[18:04:35] <jasassin> fuck me
[18:04:44] <jasassin> im bigger peice of shit than openbsd
[18:04:47] <jasassin> but fuck openbsd
[18:04:48] <jasassin> meh
[18:05:12] <jasassin> if you install that and run that for anything other than a router you deserve it
[18:06:22] <jasassin> omfg
[18:11:04] <jasassin> what filesystem does openbsd use?
[18:11:21] <jasassin> i just nuked it, i should have checked
[18:11:34] <jasassin> i can't find it on the nets
[18:22:43] <swiss> jasassin: if you want to be fancy, you could even chroot your way in
[18:28:39] <jasassin> heh
[18:28:41] <jasassin> hey
[18:28:59] <jasassin> can you tell me what the default filesystem openbsd 6.1 uses?
[18:29:10] <swiss> xfs? i think?
[18:29:17] <jasassin> default?
[18:29:30] <swiss> or ext2?
[18:29:34] <jasassin> no
[18:29:50] <jasassin> now i gotta fdisk again because nobody seems to know i just had it
[18:31:52] <chromas> mount it and see
[18:31:59] <chromas> or try the file command on the disk
[18:32:01] <jasassin> i gotta fucking resinstall
[18:32:04] <jasassin> i nuked it from orbit
[18:32:12] <chromas> boot a livecd
[18:32:13] <jasassin> im gonna do some short sweet to figure it out
[18:32:55] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Thanks, now I can't stop looking at ASCII boobies.
[18:35:06] <swiss> look in the boot drive to see
[18:35:13] <swiss> boot drive should tell you the FS format
[18:35:24] <jasassin> you you motherfuckers
[18:35:34] <jasassin> what part of i just nuked the vm from orbit dont you understand
[18:35:47] <jasassin> it takes my system at least half an hour to get to the point where i know what fileystem it is
[18:35:50] <jasassin> i've searched google
[18:35:54] <jasassin> im on 5 other irc networks
[18:35:58] <jasassin> for the simple fucking question
[18:36:07] <jasassin> what is the default filesystem install for openbsd 6.1
[18:36:10] <swiss> no clue
[18:36:12] <jasassin> I DO NOT KNOW
[18:36:15] <chromas> You zeroed the disk?
[18:36:22] <swiss> but you can figure it out
[18:36:25] <jasassin> deleted the vm
[18:36:31] <swiss> just try a couple different mount commands
[18:36:31] <chromas> undelete it
[18:36:33] <jasassin> yes its just a matter of time
[18:36:55] <jasassin> but im pissed
[18:36:58] <jasassin> its such a simple question
[18:37:07] <jasassin> but try to google it
[18:37:09] <jasassin> it wont work
[18:37:20] <jasassin> openbsd doesn't even let you talk in the channel (NO SHIT)
[18:38:03] <jasassin> openbsd is a peice of shit
[18:38:05] <jasassin> fuck openbsd
[18:38:08] <jasassin> i love you guys
[18:38:11] <jasassin> you are so not openbsd
[18:38:17] <jasassin> dont be openbsd fuckers
[18:51:37] <jasassin> fs type 4.2BSD
[18:51:45] <jasassin> fuck that took too long to answer
[18:57:11] <jasassin> ffs
[18:57:21] <jasassin> and im not saying for fuck sakes
[18:57:47] <jasassin> its fast file system
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[21:26:39] <Deucalion> prolly ZFS on a BSD isn't it :/
[21:27:35] * Deucalion is prolly wrong but doesn't care :P
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[22:04:52] <mechanicjay> Deucalion: I just set up a freebsd box, chose ZFS on root at setup and boom, done.
[22:05:08] <mechanicjay> unlike getting zfs on linux
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[22:48:41] <jasassin> can one be happy if they are alone?
[22:49:22] <jasassin> i wonder
[22:49:30] <jasassin> i am afraid to imagine
[22:49:49] <jasassin> to take that and hold it
[22:49:53] <jasassin> no
[22:50:45] <mrpg> Most humans are made to be in groups so no. Unless the humans that surround you are bad, in which case you are better alone.
[22:51:00] <mrpg> Another question would be : how many humans do I need to be happy?
[22:51:28] <mrpg> So I say yes, but friends and family make life better.
[22:51:43] <mrpg> good friends and good family.
[22:51:59] <mrpg> not just because someone is family I'm gonna love them. no way.
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[22:55:20] <mrpg> I scared him!!!!!
[22:56:13] <mrpg> I should have kept working minding my own business but no. I had to come here.
[22:56:47] <mrpg> I'll go stand in a corner alone. / join # systemd
[23:21:13] <mrpg> Remember: your submissions guarantee citizenship.
[23:28:17] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[23:28:17] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[23:36:58] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to enjoy his dinner of pizza and beer
[23:38:51] <mrpg> I'm going to eat corn flakes (r)(tm) and milk(r)
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[23:46:17] <takyon> https://bugs.chromium.org
[23:48:29] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[23:48:30] <upstart> ^ 03Not Found - Error 404
[23:49:57] <takyon> https://arstechnica.com
[23:50:00] <upstart> ^ 03California utility augments 1,800 air conditioning units with “ice battery” | Ars Technica
[23:55:07] <mrpg> Submit the ICE one and I'll do it
[23:55:29] <takyon> i did it
[23:55:37] <takyon> i just threw the link in though
[23:55:42] <mrpg> hey you just did :-) just saw it
[23:55:58] <mrpg> don tworry I'll do it thanks.
[23:56:17] <mrpg> it s gonna be my 14 STORY Of TODAY!!!!!!!!!
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[23:58:59] <takyon> https://arstechnica.com
[23:59:03] <upstart> ^ 03Not-so-secret DOD “spy drone” footage, live on the Internet [Updated] | Ars Technica