#Soylent | Logs for 2017-05-01
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[01:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Dark Web Consists of Antisocial "Dark Silos" - http://sylnt.us - single-purpose
[01:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! buncha whiny grad students at Yale wasn't satisfied with paid tuition, free medical, and ~$35k a year and went on a hunger strike. Yale Republicans put on a community bbq next to them.
[01:26:33] <chromas> Yale privilege
[01:34:02] <nick> well that just makes no sense... all the angry internet comments i've read have been very clear that all universities are just liberal echo chambers where no dissent or counterpoints are allowed to exist
[01:35:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> every now and then someone messes up at the admissions office and lets in someone who thinks differently.
[01:35:32] <chromas> They're not liberal echo chambers, they just identify as such
[01:36:47] <nick> chromas, that makes more sense... ive known very conservative/right wing people to come out of university who seem to want to believe they're liberal left wingers
[01:41:59] <chromas> They can't be hardcore lefties unless they take the Sarkeesian principle to heart.
[01:42:23] <chromas> If they're not projecting all their isms onto everyone else, they need to "get educated"
[01:46:15] <nick> unless it's capitalism, because that's the only valid ism, from what i've been told
[01:47:40] <chromas> Well it's the one that gave us pocket computers to tweet about how much we hate it.
[01:48:23] <nick> but then socialized medicine kept me alive long enough to be able to use it
[01:48:43] <chromas> Hybrids are great
[01:49:13] * chromas identifies as transsocialist
[01:50:07] <nick> so i'm still torn by this big grey pile of shit that people try to form into an ideology to live by, desperate to find something to attach themselves to, as you jokingly made a point of there.
[01:51:54] <nick> i'm still dumbfounded that someone told me H.Clinton is a socialist, i mean there are plenty of negative labels you could give her that would be accurate, but to use socialist interchangeably with corrupt does a disservice all around
[01:52:52] <chromas> Well we did have the "red scare" a couple years back
[01:53:04] * chromas checks under his chair for commies
[01:53:21] <nick> a couple years back? i thought we were still on that with #russiagate #putinspuppet
[01:53:42] <chromas> That's racist
[01:53:51] <chromas> of course it was Russia
[01:54:33] <chromas> But see, we stopped checking our couches for commies and/or socialists and suddenly we're churning 'em out at our schools
[01:54:42] <nick> it did make a change from every hack being blamed on china
[01:54:58] <nick> obviously that was getting a bit too close to home with the quantity of trade between china and the US to keep beating that horse
[01:56:30] <chromas> We send 'em some coal, suddenly they're not "manipulating currency" no more
[01:56:40] <nick> but it was convinient how china apparently stopped their industrial espionage and stealing IP through hacks when russia started interfering, or it would be confusing for the average person to follow the stories.
[01:56:52] * chromas thanks Trump
[01:57:23] <nick> that was another troubling road to go down, it's not like the western central banks have been hands off from their respective currencies
[01:57:30] <chromas> Plus the CIA & NSA aren' hacking either. How polite of them.
[01:57:50] <chromas> That's anti-semitism
[01:58:46] <nick> the CIA has never attempted to sway an election in a foreign country
[02:02:00] <chromas> or control prices by paying farmers to not grow things
[02:05:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.moultrienews.com
[02:05:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:06:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:06:26] <chromas> #smake MrPlow
[02:06:26] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with a reverse toilet flush
[02:06:39] <chromas> Shouldn't it show the title instead of the same url every time?
[02:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. reason being the title isn't returned.
[02:17:17] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to see if he can read a book
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[02:45:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Book Review: The Steam Man of the Praries - http://sylnt.us - get-your-own-golem
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[03:06:22] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 18°C/64°F, 12:06 am GMT-3, Monday, 1 May 2017
[03:11:20] <Deucalion> ~weather
[03:11:22] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 49°F / 9°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 5 mph, humidity 88% - Monday showers (44°F:55°F / 7°C:13°C), Tuesday showers (45°F:61°F / 7°C:16°C), Wednesday cloudy (50°F:57°F / 10°C:14°C), Thursday cloudy (47°F:59°F / 8°C:15°C)
[03:21:44] <paulej72> ~weather
[03:21:46] <exec> 10Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 51°F / 11°C, cloudy, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 84% - Sunday cloudy (50°F:63°F / 10°C:17°C), Monday partly cloudy (62°F:83°F / 17°C:28°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (51°F:73°F / 11°C:23°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (42°F:63°F / 6°C:17°C)
[04:17:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paper on Microplastic's Harm to Fish Will Likely be Retracted - http://sylnt.us - oops
[05:46:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Halts Email and Text Collection - http://sylnt.us - as-far-as-you-can-throw-them
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[07:27:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kamloops Yellow Cabs Tries Dispatching From Pakistan - http://sylnt.us - you-want-to-go-where?
[08:56:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hawaii May Restrict Use of Oxybenzone - http://sylnt.us - no-more-coppertone
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[10:23:30] <cmn32480> coffee++
[10:23:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3401
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[10:26:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian-US Cooperation on Cybercrime in Turmoil as FBI Accuses Russian Cybercrime Agents of Crimes - http://sylnt.us - double-down-on-your-triple-agents
[10:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:27:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3402
[10:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, grats on 3400 yesterday
[10:53:46] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:53:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3403
[10:54:20] * TheMightyBuzzard waits patiently for 3443 and 3456
[10:55:35] * TheMightyBuzzard cheers
[10:56:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing my weekly systems updates and got an entirely no-build update this go-round.
[10:56:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept on one system
[10:57:41] <paulej72> spacex launch
[10:57:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly cause that system's on the stable update chain and the others are on testing
[10:57:49] <paulej72> http://www.spacex.com
[10:57:49] <upstart> ^ 03NROL-76 MISSION | SpaceX
[10:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, they actually gonna get off the ground today?
[10:58:58] <paulej72> not sure, they have not gone live yet with the broadcast
[11:00:08] <paulej72> targing 7:15
[11:01:01] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[11:01:02] <upstart> ^ 03NROL-76 Launch Webcast - YouTube
[11:01:29] <Bytram> paulej72: good morning!
[11:01:43] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to have himself a bit of nicotine
[11:01:48] <Bytram> paulej72: was wondering where you got the info that they were targeting 0715 instead of 0700
[11:01:58] <paulej72> twitter
[11:02:04] <Bytram> ahhh,
[11:02:09] <paulej72> https://twitter.com
[11:02:15] <upstart> ^ 03SpaceX (@SpaceX) | Twitter
[11:02:23] * Bytram does not tweet, but once in a while loads twitter to follow one channel
[11:02:29] <Bytram> much obliged
[11:02:35] <paulej72> same here
[11:02:46] <Bytram> brb
[11:03:26] <paulej72> going live
[11:03:49] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:04:38] <Bytram> it *still* amazes me that they fire up ALL the engines to full thrust, and have something that holds it down until they decide to release the rocket!
[11:04:58] * Bytram assumes it is full thrust when they do that
[11:05:17] <Bytram> looks like they have good weather
[11:05:24] <Bytram> ~weather cape canaveral
[11:05:26] <exec> 10Cape Canaveral, FL, USA - currently 77°F, partly cloudy, wind SE at 15 mph, humidity 81% - Monday cloudy (73°F:86°F), Tuesday thunderstorm (69°F:80°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (72°F:83°F), Thursday mostly sunny (69°F:84°F)
[11:05:42] <paulej72> yes it should be full thust or they scrub
[11:10:35] <Bytram> T minus 5m
[11:11:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://money.cnn.com
[11:11:07] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:11:32] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:15:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX's First Classified Satellite Launch, NROL-76, Scrubbed; Retry Monday AM [UPDATE 3] - http://sylnt.us
[11:15:43] <paulej72> liftoff
[11:15:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://torrentfreak.com Damn, even we use cookies for log-ins.
[11:15:48] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:16:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:24:48] <paulej72> awsome landing. nailed it
[11:25:20] <Bytram> !woop
[11:25:20] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
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[11:26:27] <paulej72> that first stage is fucking fast when landing. it looks like a controled crash more than a landing
[11:26:36] <Bytram> agreed
[11:27:37] <Bytram> I noticed that the 1st stage accelerated (under gravity) to something like 1 mile / sec
[11:27:38] <paulej72> they had such good weather to show the landing and since we did not follow the second stage it was nice to see the split screen with the two first stage views
[11:27:46] <Bytram> nod nod
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[11:27:58] <Bytram> would have liked to have seen a ground level view of the landing, too
[11:28:16] <paulej72> you mean the shit your pants view
[11:28:22] <Bytram> that works
[11:31:17] <Bytram> what isthe term they used for the landing site?
[11:31:23] * Bytram is updating the story on our site
[11:31:42] <paulej72> not sure
[11:32:01] <Bytram> me neither. I'd recognize it if I saw it, but can't recall atm
[11:34:14] <Bytram> Landing Zone 1
[11:35:32] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:35:32] <upstart> ^ 03Landing Zone 1 - Wikipedia
[11:37:15] <Bytram> story updated
[11:45:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Halts Some Email and Text Collection - http://sylnt.us - as-far-as-you-can-throw-them || SpaceX's First Classified Satellite Launch, NROL-76, Monday AM: Up, Up, and Away! [UPDATE 4] - http://sylnt.us
[11:46:17] <Bytram> time to get ready for work... afk.
[11:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://akrzemi1.wordpress.com Interesting but thankfully not my worry at the moment as I'm on a Learn Rust kick and my problem areas of SN are all perl.
[11:47:19] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:47:44] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://techrights.org Again, guys, 1984 <i>is not an instruction manual</i>.
[12:07:29] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[12:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://techrights.org
[12:10:17] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:10:42] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.researchsea.com
[12:13:25] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[12:13:29] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[12:16:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Book Review: The Steam Man of the Prairies - http://sylnt.us - get-your-own-golem || SK Hynix to Begin Shipping GDDR6 Memory in Early 2018 - http://sylnt.us - faster-is-better
[12:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.rt.com
[12:30:33] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[12:31:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Zuck4Prez? Unlikely, but couldn't be worse than the major-party candidates in 2016.
[12:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it could but he'd really have to try hard.
[12:33:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean I could manage worse than Trump with a modicum of effort. it'd take some planning to top Hillary though.
[12:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://lwn.net Not precisely news unless you're working serious enterprise Linux but an interesting read nonetheless.
[12:41:34] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[12:41:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg
[12:46:37] <Bytram> time for work.. laters!
[14:07:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wikipedia Blocked in Turkey - http://sylnt.us - doesn't-the-internet-route-around-censorship?
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[15:08:21] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 24°C/76°F, 12:08 pm GMT-3, Monday, 1 May 2017
[15:55:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 12-Year-Old "Too Sexy" for a Chess Tournament - http://sylnt.us - they-grow-up-so-quickly-these-days
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[16:13:30] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 8°C/46°F, 9:13 am GMT-7, Monday, 1 May 2017
[17:36:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wireless Power Can Drive Tiny Electronic Devices in the GI Tract - http://sylnt.us - that-takes-guts
[18:02:08] <chromas> What if I'm allergic to the wifis?
[18:02:48] * chromas imagines the wifis sexually assaulting him in the GI hole.
[18:39:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> which one? there are two GI holes, one usually used for input and one usually used for output.
[18:47:07] <chromas> the output
[18:47:11] <chromas> [dramatic sting]
[19:26:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Soy Moratorium: Defeating Deforestation or Greenwash Diversion? - http://sylnt.us - beware-betteridge
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[21:16:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Sense of Hearing Could Make Cars Safer and More Reliable - http://sylnt.us - no-more-deaf-cars
[21:42:18] <Bytram> http://www.reuters.com
[21:48:42] <Bytram> http://www.reuters.com
[21:48:50] <Bytram> ~title on
[21:48:51] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[21:48:55] <Bytram> http://www.reuters.com
[21:48:57] <exec> └─ 13Chipmaker AMD's server business revenue misses, shares drop
[21:51:03] <Bytram> http://www.reuters.com
[21:51:05] <exec> └─ 13Twitter shares rise after report on deal with Bloomberg
[22:14:15] <nick> not much in either of those
[22:26:16] <Bytram> yeah, more interesting in concept that reality... unless there is another source with a more engaging writeup?
[22:27:37] <Bytram> s/that/than/
[22:27:37] <sedctl> <Bytram> yeah, more interesting in concept than reality... unless there is another source with a more engaging writeup?
[22:27:39] <exec> <Bytram> yeah, more interesting in concept than reality... unless there is another source with a more engaging writeup?
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[22:57:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Next Big Hit in Molecule Hollywood - http://sylnt.us - introducing-ytterbium-in-her-debut-role
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[23:04:41] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[23:04:43] <upstart> ^ 03Red alert! Intel patches remote execution hole that's been hidden in its chips since 2008 • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:04:45] <exec> └─ 13Red alert! Intel patches remote execution hole that's been hidden in its chips since 2008 • The Register
[23:04:49] <exec> └─ 13Red alert! Intel patches remote execution hole that's been hidden in its chips since 2008 • The Register
[23:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, I told them so.
[23:06:26] <Bytram> yep, no argument from me on that being a vulnerability just waiting to be exploited
[23:06:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> sub that bastich
[23:07:18] <Bytram> reading it atm... will sub when I have a better handle on WHAT to sub =)
[23:07:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the folks here are gonna have a fun ole time cussing intel
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[23:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, even i got machines on the lan that need this garbage done to em
[23:16:14] <Empyrean> i log into soylent irc for the first time and it ruins my day (re: intel vuln). gee thanks ;)
[23:16:52] <Bytram> okay, the Intel AMT/ISM/SBT hardware bug story is MOST interesting, but I just finished an 8-day stretch at work and have run out of energy...
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[23:25:18] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 10°C/50°F, 4:25 pm GMT-7, Monday, 1 May 2017
[23:29:31] <Empyrean> does anyone know whether a microcode update be sufficient to patch the intel vulnerability on linux (assuming updated microcode is released)?
[23:34:09] <Bytram> #from what I just read, that's exactly the case... *IF* you can get a microcode update, that *should* fix it.
[23:36:05] <Empyrean> thanks Bytram, i guess i'll just have to hope that a new version gets pushed to ubuntu's package management system. it seems like this would be a pretty high priority
[23:37:44] <Bytram> DO read the article in "The Register" -- does a good job of laying things out pretty clearly. There is a clear distinction between being vulnerable from being on a network vs a local user, too.
[23:37:46] <Empyrean> i'm nervous about this, but i imagine some people are really going to be pulling their hair out over this
[23:38:05] <Empyrean> i skimmed the article
[23:38:42] <Bytram> yep, imagine if YOU had several *THOUSANDS* of PCs that you are responsible for... could make you a bit 'excited', no?
[23:38:52] <Empyrean> indeed
[23:39:19] <Bytram> I'm sure the likes of American Express, Fidelity Investments, and the like are already bringing pressure to bear.
[23:40:22] <Bytram> otoh, if you have a cheapo system made by a mom-n-pop shop down the street from no-name components... you're prolly in DEEP do-do
[23:40:36] <Bytram> okay... break time... biab
[23:44:05] <Empyrean> later
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