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[00:16:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - http://sylnt.us - all-i-need-is-popcorn-and-12-hours
[00:57:01] <cmn32480> yeah
[00:57:03] <cmn32480> I know
[00:57:25] <cmn32480> gotta get the VPN working first...
[00:57:43] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, if you needed an IPSec VPN client to run on Wiondows.. .what woudl you use?
[00:59:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i have no clue. haven't used windows for anything but games in over a decade.
[00:59:26] <cmn32480> so much for hta idear
[00:59:36] <cmn32480> ok
[00:59:48] <cmn32480> let's try it a differnet way.. what woudl you use in Linux?
[00:59:55] <chromas> You could boot a vm and vpn in through there
[00:59:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean occasionally i gotta administer em but i just google what i needa know for that and promptly forget it once it's no longer relevant to me.
[01:01:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, prolly NetworkManager. dead easy to set up vpns in it.
[01:01:18] <chromas> Traitor!
[01:01:31] <cmn32480> me or him?
[01:01:34] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[01:01:36] <chromas> him
[01:01:42] <chromas> promoting networkmanager
[01:01:52] * cmn32480 is open to suggestions chromas
[01:01:54] <chromas> next he'll tell you to get a systemdistro
[01:01:59] <chromas> he's right though
[01:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm just not interested in overly complex networking setup.
[01:02:12] <Bytram> allergies--
[01:02:12] <Bender> karma - allergies: -11
[01:02:16] <cmn32480> need somethign that I can support for corporate use
[01:02:21] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[01:02:26] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[01:02:28] <cmn32480> ~gday Bytram
[01:02:29] <Bytram> ~gday chromas
[01:02:33] <cmn32480> oh yeah
[01:02:35] <chromas> I think most of the popular distros come with NetworkManager set up
[01:02:38] <chromas> ~g'day sir
[01:02:40] <cmn32480> exec died when I unplugged the firewall
[01:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did the systemd networking thing for a while with arch but man it's a pita. gentoo's even worse if you don't use NetworkManager.
[01:02:50] <chromas> at least if you're doing a graphical desktop
[01:03:10] * cmn32480 pulls hard left ot get back to the originally asked question
[01:03:46] <chromas> spin up a linux vm and you can use networkmanager
[01:03:57] * cmn32480 bangs head on desk
[01:04:02] <chromas> and pipe your windows through it
[01:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, what flavor of vpn do you need to connect to?
[01:05:03] <cmn32480> pfSense
[01:05:11] <cmn32480> IPSec
[01:05:28] <cmn32480> as opposed to OpenVPN
[01:05:35] <cmn32480> or <gag> L2TP
[01:05:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, ipsec? you sure about that? cause that means something entirely different than vpns.
[01:06:09] <cmn32480> dems the 3 options
[01:06:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> pptp, l2tp, and openvpn are the ones i've heard of
[01:06:52] <cmn32480> IPSec is typically used as a site to site, but is also used for some road warrior configurations
[01:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well and cisco's vpnc
[01:07:22] <chromas> https://www.hideipvpn.com
[01:07:25] <chromas> does this help at all?
[01:07:39] <cmn32480> trying to avoid the L2TP
[01:07:51] <cmn32480> I have some vague rememory about it being broken
[01:07:59] <chromas> it says /IPSec though :)
[01:08:28] <chromas> anyway it shows windows has some amount of support on its own for some vpns
[01:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, pfsense has https://www.shrew.net as a recomendation for that.
[01:09:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like really old recomendation though since their last news item was in 2013 on that site
[01:10:21] <takyon> what are we talking about
[01:10:54] <takyon> https://www.softether.org
[01:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, cmn32480, what version of windows you using?
[01:11:31] <cmn32480> 7 and/or 10
[01:11:37] <cmn32480> 10 has native IPSec
[01:11:42] <cmn32480> 7 does not w/o the L2TP
[01:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, ya, i was bout to say that
[01:12:22] <cmn32480> most of my users are still on 7
[01:12:31] <cmn32480> actually... all of them are
[01:12:43] <cmn32480> the only box that will be win 10 connecting will be my desktop at the house
[01:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... any chance they'll let you rip it out and install openvpn?
[01:12:54] <cmn32480> just went in
[01:12:58] <cmn32480> like today
[01:13:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent
[01:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> no better time to nuke it from orbit
[01:13:13] <cmn32480> OpenVPN is part of the install
[01:13:56] <cmn32480> pfSense is a far better option than what was there
[01:14:16] <cmn32480> 6 year old failing hardware Junipers
[01:14:32] <cmn32480> I can use OpenVPN...
[01:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you can use openvpn, use openvpn software
[01:15:04] <cmn32480> seems to be the simplest option
[01:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://openvpn.net
[01:15:48] <cmn32480> it's easy
[01:15:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> openvpn is lurve n puppies
[01:16:02] <cmn32480> I was looking at it when I was toying with other firewall distros
[01:16:34] * cmn32480 tries OpenVPN for the hell of it
[01:17:02] * cmn32480 wonders if he still has a RADIUS server set up
[01:18:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads man. i ain't had a radius setup in 20 years.
[01:21:11] <cmn32480> 3 options for authentication
[01:21:17] <cmn32480> 1) Local DB
[01:21:24] <cmn32480> 2) RADIUS
[01:21:28] <cmn32480> 3) LDAP
[01:21:41] <cmn32480> I run a Windows shop...
[01:21:54] <cmn32480> LDAP is a big massive FUCK NO
[01:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> agreed
[01:23:59] <cmn32480> Local is feasible, but a bitch if I get a decent number of users
[01:24:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[01:24:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> last time i used it was at an isp selling dial-up connections.
[01:24:24] <chromas> Make them share an account
[01:24:24] <cmn32480> RADIUS fits right in with AD and just works.... plus I might already have one running
[01:24:44] <cmn32480> but I can't remember anymore
[01:26:13] * cmn32480 pulls out his RADIUS Caller and goes a hunting
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[01:32:24] <cmn32480> takyon - your script add the "New Comment" button?
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[01:38:29] <SirFinkus> my new shirt came in
[01:38:30] <SirFinkus> http://24.17.139.60:8080
[01:38:36] <SirFinkus> I'm very pleased
[01:39:16] <chromas> [thug life]
[01:39:27] <SirFinkus> yup
[01:56:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - http://sylnt.us - we-should-demand-it
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[03:47:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - http://sylnt.us - pull-to-push-push-to-pull
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[05:16:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - http://sylnt.us - get-a-"load"-of-this!
[06:46:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step Or Sidewalk-clogging Nightmare? - http://sylnt.us - unintended-consequences
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[07:57:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - http://sylnt.us - unintended-consequences
[08:11:00] <Bytram> .op
[08:11:00] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by Aphrodite
[08:11:29] <Bytram> .deop
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[08:15:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - http://sylnt.us - need-more-land-where-the-water-is
[08:16:56] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[08:17:15] <Bytram> and... it's time for me to head out to work for the day.
[08:17:18] <Bytram> coffee++
[08:17:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3359
[08:17:19] <Bytram> coffee++
[08:17:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3360
[08:17:24] <Bytram> laters!
[09:57:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fibrosis Reversed When "Don't Eat Me" Signal Blocked, Study Finds - http://sylnt.us - string-instrument?
[10:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:15:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3361
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[10:42:22] <takyon_> http://www.cnn.com
[10:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk Story's a bit dated but being as they're in no rush, I don't see any need for us to be either. So, you lot think we'll ever actually get to play with a VMS box on cheap hardware or is this going to be another DNF situation?
[10:53:43] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[10:54:08] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:03:53] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 365
[11:07:10] <takyon_> Bender karma count used to predict lung cancer
[11:09:24] <Soylentbob> Q: I submitted an article yesterday and forgot to put any link to the source. Could we have some automated checks when submitting? Not necessarily an error, because there might be legitimate use-cases for articles without a link, but at least a prominent warning...
[11:10:38] <takyon_> feeling guilty about that one AC leaving?
[11:11:13] <takyon_> I can develop a check into my extension. Since most editors use it, it might catch some instances
[11:11:47] <takyon_> we actually have another article coming up with no damn link in it: https://soylentnews.org
[11:13:01] <Soylentbob> Not feeling guilty (no harm done...), just stupid :-)
[11:13:55] <Soylentbob> Would be great, if the submitter could see the warning already. For editors it is usually more hassle to look up where the story might come from. Submitter usually should have the story open anyway
[11:14:36] <takyon_> ok. I'll make a rehash issue of it
[11:14:50] <Soylentbob> Great, thanks.
[11:21:39] <takyon> Soylentbob: https://github.com
[11:28:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - http://sylnt.us - taking-advice-to-heart
[11:31:33] <Soylentbob> Thanks again. BTW: I haven't even seen the comment of the AC claiming to leave before you mentioned it. But I guess my verdict stands ("no harm done").
[11:45:43] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
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[14:24:39] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[14:24:54] <cmn32480> wth....
[14:26:31] <cmn32480> oooooooo
[14:26:39] <cmn32480> looks like I updated adn the box rebooted
[14:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Testing the Unruh Effect - http://sylnt.us - you're-getting-warmer
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[14:35:13] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[14:35:16] * exec scientifically postulates an old shoe full of grits towards TheMightyBuzzard
[14:35:19] <cmn32480> that's better
[14:36:27] <cmn32480> ~join#fite
[14:36:30] <cmn32480> ~join #fite
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[15:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - http://sylnt.us - Email-confirmation-just-slows-us-down
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[16:48:46] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 11°C/51°F, 9:48 am GMT-7, Tuesday, 18 April 2017
[16:48:47] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 11°C/51°F, 9:48 am GMT-7, Tuesday, 18 April 2017
[17:04:17] <mechanicjay> Heh, I think my sexual paranoia story from last week is the most commented story I've ever sub'ed.
[17:06:22] <n1_> mechanicjay, next time go for a story that combines sex, politics and how trump is the synthesis of both
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[17:07:30] <mechanicjay> lol, I'll keep my eye for one.
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[17:13:54] <n1_> i dont even think an article like that would be difficult to write
[17:21:58] * cmn32480 grumbles about finding a good report generator for Squid
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[17:24:05] <cmn32480> is it so wrong that I just want a freaking text file report of the traffic?
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[17:34:11] <n1_> cmn32480, i don't know why you'd want to when you could sync the report with the cloud to create a visual depiction of the new paradigm predicted through a proprietary AI pattern analysis
[17:34:59] <cmn32480> #smake n1_
[17:34:59] * MrPlow smakes n1_ upside the head with a TSR
[17:35:07] <cmn32480> nothign personal
[17:35:16] <cmn32480> I was hoping it woudl knock the buzzwords out of your head
[17:38:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - http://sylnt.us - a-dark-day-in-tech
[17:38:39] <n1_> cmn32480, thanks for disrupting my workflow so we can move forwards in synergizing my thoughts so we can collaborate in a more dynamic way
[17:38:50] * cmn32480 rocks in the corner
[17:39:16] <cmn32480> I used to use a tool called calamaris
[17:39:36] <cmn32480> but it is currently unmaintained... for apparently quite some time./
[18:22:42] * chromas shifts some paradigms
[18:49:15] * cmn32480 cusses freebsd
[18:49:28] <cmn32480> #smake freebsd
[18:49:28] * MrPlow smakes freebsd upside the head with meatspin
[18:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480
[18:54:40] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with the homerow
[18:54:53] <cmn32480> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[18:54:53] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a primary key
[18:56:46] <cmn32480> what'd I do to deserve a smake?
[18:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> just looked like you needed one
[18:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd IBM Model-M
[18:57:46] <MrPlow> "IBM Model-M" added.
[19:00:30] * cmn32480 is having a fail of a day
[19:00:54] <cmn32480> I've been fighting wiht the new firewalls most of the day...
[19:00:58] <cmn32480> got squid running,.
[19:01:11] <cmn32480> decided that I don't liek the default log parser
[19:01:46] <cmn32480> found out that all the damn log parsers are now web based stuff that gives pretty pictures instead of text based data
[19:02:47] <chromas> use systemd-journald
[19:02:56] <chromas> for windows
[19:03:05] <cmn32480> i used to use calamaris to parse my squid logs... but apparently that is not available from the repos anymore.
[19:03:15] <cmn32480> #smake chromas repeatedly
[19:03:15] * MrPlow smakes chromas repeatedly upside the head with great responsibility
[19:04:06] <cmn32480> alls I want is a text log so that I can use sendmail (or somesuch) to email it to myself
[19:04:13] <cmn32480> is that so hard?
[19:04:40] <cmn32480> #smakeadd Ford Model T
[19:04:40] <MrPlow> "Ford Model T" added.
[19:05:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - http://sylnt.us - a-solution-surfaces
[19:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> you think you got it bad? i'm fighting circular dependency hell on a gentoo system upgrading perl and all perl packages.
[19:07:39] <chromas> Switch to arch ;)
[19:07:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw dat. i'm puttin windows on it.
[19:08:18] <cmn32480> pfsense is built on FreeBSD... I have no choices
[19:08:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what you get for not just using plain old openvpn
[19:09:16] * cmn32480 pout that on the back burner for the short term
[19:10:02] <cmn32480> twas way more important to spy on people and know who is visiting naughty sites on the interwebs
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[19:38:13] <cmn32480> upside: the VPN works from the local DB
[19:38:28] <cmn32480> downside: the vpn still isn't workgin via radius authentication
[19:38:36] <cmn32480> but.. it is a step in the right direction!
[20:11:06] <cmn32480> chromas... please slap down TMB in #fite
[20:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! finally got my laptop coming back to a reasonable state! only had to uninstall every non-core perl module, then upgrade half a dozen packages telling them to ignore deps, then run an @world update
[20:24:09] * cmn32480 considers biting the bullet and jsut doing this shit via the local DB
[20:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it that way until you can get radius working, then switch.
[20:25:31] <cmn32480> problem is that it all looks right...
[20:26:47] <boru> pfsense is a poor approximation of a real FreeBSD system, imho.
[20:26:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it would, wouldn't it? otherwise you'd have fixed it already.
[20:27:01] <boru> Are you stuck with pfsense, or can you use a real FreeBSD install?
[20:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah, biloxi is too far a drive to go see zz top tonight
[20:29:27] <cmn32480> boru... I COULD use a freebsd.. but that means I'd have to actualyl learn freebsd
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[20:30:23] <boru> As well as your rebirth into beauty.
[20:30:45] <boru> TMB; sounds like an evening for a drop of the pure.
[20:30:45] <cmn32480> I think both woudl take an act of God
[20:31:08] <boru> I think you'd be quite comfortable quite quickly, man.
[20:31:31] <boru> What services do you need to run, exactly?
[20:32:15] <cmn32480> firewall... squid.. openvpn... site to site (currently IPSEC
[20:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, last time i ran radius was on a bsdi box... like 99 or so.
[20:32:42] <cmn32480> but I've already got the pfsense box here in palce and I am waiting on the guy at the other office to plug his in so that the VPN's connect
[20:33:47] <boru> Fair enough. I think you'd have that spun up fairly quickly.
[20:33:55] <cmn32480> the RADIUS Server is actaully on Windows to allow as close to a single sign on as I can get at the moment
[20:34:17] <boru> Aye, don't know about that windows lark.
[20:34:21] <cmn32480> boru - the generic pfsense portion spun up pretty quick , given that I had zero experiecne with it
[20:34:40] <boru> I'm a bit of a purist, it's probably fine.
[20:34:50] <cmn32480> squid is running... but I need to find a decent log parser... I don't liek the option that pfsense gives
[20:35:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> write your own in perl
[20:35:26] <boru> Perl is overkill. Use Awk!
[20:35:38] <cmn32480> the remote VPN works fine off the local DB.. but trying to get it running under RADIUS from the windows box has been a major bitch
[20:35:55] <cmn32480> what does jewelery from oysters have to do with anything?
[20:36:07] <boru> It's just text on BSD, no binary lennartdbdloggingd.service.
[20:36:15] * cmn32480 guesses that it keeps with the sea creature theme... squid...
[20:36:22] <boru> Quite.
[20:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all text on gentoo-based shat too. makes me happy.
[20:36:44] <cmn32480> I think squid outputrs in text on all systems
[20:36:45] <boru> Glad to hear it.
[20:36:55] <cmn32480> had it running on Windows once and it was plain text as well
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[20:37:17] <boru> I'd say gentoo and slack are probably the only non-lennux systems left out there.
[20:37:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just needa make sense of the logs then?
[20:37:47] <mechanicjay> gentoo++
[20:37:47] <Bender> karma - gentoo: 3
[20:37:47] <cmn32480> I need to find the Freebsd port of calamaris
[20:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, pretty much. cept some embedded distros i expect.
[20:38:04] <cmn32480> it gave me the text based logs instead of all the pretty fucking pictures and clicky crap that I don't want
[20:38:18] <cmn32480> back in the day... I mean
[20:38:24] <boru> It's in www/calamaris
[20:38:47] <cmn32480> pretend that I don't know jack about freeebsd
[20:38:55] <boru> Oh, also in pkg repo.
[20:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, sudo yum calamaris
[20:39:23] <boru> `whereis calamaris` will give you the port path if you have ports, alternatively, with pkg-ng, `pkg search calamaris`
[20:39:47] <boru> If you wanted the port, using portmaster, `portmaster www/calamaris`
[20:39:51] * TheMightyBuzzard steers cmn32480 wrong
[20:40:20] <cmn32480> pkg search came up empty
[20:40:36] <cmn32480> portmaster " command not found
[20:40:45] <boru> Oh, this is the pfsense box?
[20:40:54] * cmn32480 knows to trust but verify anythign that TMB says
[20:40:59] <cmn32480> correct, sir
[20:41:04] <cmn32480> but I have shell
[20:41:24] <cmn32480> pkg search portmaster
[20:41:41] <cmn32480> nope
[20:41:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> you fuckin well better have a root shell on any box on your network...
[20:42:07] <boru> Try `pkg update` first.
[20:42:34] <boru> Is this an inhell box? IIRC, pfsense has been since ported.
[20:42:37] <cmn32480> looks like it only looks in the pfsense repo
[20:42:42] <boru> Feh.
[20:42:50] <cmn32480> how do I add a repo?
[20:43:47] * cmn32480 googles the forums and finds in in the second link
[20:44:15] <boru> I've put my packagesites in /etc/pkg
[20:44:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g ( o Y o )
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[20:44:28] <boru> My requirements are different, though.
[20:44:53] <boru> I cross compiler my ports in poudriere jails for small low powered boards around my lab.
[20:45:08] <boru> And add the repo on the boards, naturally.
[20:45:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, if you came on staff you could totally talk NCommander into going bsd and getting me off the hook for having to admin anything
[20:45:55] <cmn32480> looks like it allows for me to install via pkg add <website>
[20:46:09] <boru> Yeah, you can do that, too.
[20:46:10] <cmn32480> I'm already on staff.. and don't know shit
[20:46:19] <boru> If I came on staff, SN would burn down.
[20:46:27] * cmn32480 goes digging for the weblink
[20:46:30] <boru> I haven't got the cycles, man.
[20:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[20:46:49] <boru> If I had, I'd definitely be onboard.
[20:46:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was just trying to get out of admin duties.
[20:47:00] <boru> Perhaps if things cool off a bit this year, I'll get back to you.
[20:47:03] * boru chuckles.
[20:47:23] <boru> Well, there's very little work to do with a well set up BSD box, ime.
[20:47:37] <boru> Then again, I haven't really run a site like SN, so I could be talking out of my arse.
[20:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like coding more. if you mess things up you just make the admins restore from backup.
[20:48:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, yer correct. there's very little to do with a well set up linux box either. mechanicjay and audioguy are silent for months sometimes.
[20:49:17] <cmn32480> until NCommander breaks shit
[20:51:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone gotta keep em on their toes
[20:51:54] <boru> Anyway, sysadmin ain't my bread and butter. Most of the stuff I've commissioned has just been for fun.
[20:51:59] <boru> Or low traffic.
[20:52:22] <boru> IRC, mail, newsgroups, that sort of thing.
[20:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[20:53:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i need nicotine then some vidya. nothin much to do while mesa compiles on the laptop.
[20:54:36] <boru> I'm working on a Forth compiler, this evening.
[20:54:53] <boru> I've managed to get some downtime, whilst travelling.
[20:56:07] <boru> cmn32480; wrt pkg usage, I think you'll find yourself having less donkey work if you add the repo, rather than just grabbing individual packages since you're going to want the SAT solver to do dep handling for you.
[20:56:20] <cmn32480> yes
[20:56:25] <cmn32480> that it the plan
[20:56:33] <boru> Where it might get tricky is where the same packages are in both repos.
[20:56:34] <cmn32480> This does work in pfSense 2.3.2:
[20:56:34] <cmn32480> 1. Make sure "enabled" key is set to "yes" in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
[20:56:34] <cmn32480> 2. Change "enabled: no" to "enabled: yes" in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf
[20:56:34] <cmn32480> 3. Change "enabled: no" to "enabled: yes" in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/pfSense.conf for FreeBSD repo
[20:56:34] <cmn32480> 4. Now you're able to install packages from FreeBSD official repo
[20:57:08] <boru> Ah, so the repo file is already there? Useful.
[20:58:04] <boru> FWIW, if you don't find what you're looking for in the repo (not all ports are there), you could cross compile them on another BSD box locally.
[20:58:54] <cmn32480> yeah
[20:58:56] <cmn32480> I gotta run
[20:59:00] <boru> The binary packages on FreeBSD are a bit annoying, since they're ports with all options enabled, which sometimes means heavy dependencies. It's not like OpenBSD packages, alas, where you have a large portion of the port option matrix available via binary packages.
[20:59:06] <cmn32480> baseball practice with one of the kids tonight
[20:59:15] <boru> Sounds like more fun.
[20:59:19] <boru> Catch you later.
[20:59:23] <cmn32480> only dependency on calamaris is perl5
[20:59:30] <cmn32480> thanks for the help boru
[20:59:33] <cmn32480> I really appreciate it
[20:59:53] <boru> You know me, I'm always happy to blather on about BSD. You're welcome.
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