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[00:47:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - http://sylnt.us - lab-rats-online
[01:38:52] <Bytram> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:38:54] <exec> └─ 13Apple fans, Android world scramble to patch Broadcom's nasty drive-by Wi-Fi security hole • The Register
[02:16:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Materials May Lead to Self-Healing Smartphones - http://sylnt.us - Logan-fiber
[02:39:13] <Bytram> ~submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:39:15] <exec> └─ 13Apple fans, Android world scramble to patch Broadcom's nasty drive-by Wi-Fi security hole • The Register
[02:39:45] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:39:49] <Bytram> ~submit https://www.cnet.com
[02:39:51] <exec> └─ 13Another Uber exec outed in Waymo self-driving car suit - CNET
[02:40:22] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[02:42:00] <Bytram> https://news.iu.edu
[02:42:06] <exec> └─ 13Study shows real-world massage is effective treatment for low back pain : News at IU: Indiana University
[02:42:12] <Bytram> https://news.iu.edu
[02:42:17] <Bytram> oops
[02:42:17] <exec> └─ 13Study shows real-world massage is effective treatment for low back pain : News at IU: Indiana University
[02:42:29] <Bytram> http://dx.doi.org
[02:42:31] <exec> └─ 13Object moved
[02:42:54] <Bytram> https://academic.oup.com
[03:52:03] <chromas> real world?
[03:52:11] <chromas> like instead of virtual massages?
[03:56:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - http://sylnt.us - where-no-probe-has-gone-before
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[04:40:00] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 20°C/68°F, 1:40 am GMT-3, Wednesday, 5 April 2017
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[05:36:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - http://sylnt.us - cha-ching
[05:57:15] <charon> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[05:57:18] <exec> └─ 13This IoT Dildo Has an Embedded WiFi Streaming Camera and Laughable Security
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[07:05:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - http://sylnt.us
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[08:36:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - http://sylnt.us - pining-no-more
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[10:08:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - http://sylnt.us - desperate-measures
[10:32:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:32:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3330
[10:46:41] <paulej72> coffee++
[10:46:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3331
[10:47:12] <paulej72> free_breakfast++
[10:47:12] <Bender> karma - free_breakfast: 1
[10:48:06] <boru> no_such_thing_as_a_free_breakfast++
[10:48:06] <Bender> karma - no_such_thing_as_a_free_breakfast: 1
[10:48:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> tanstaafb?
[10:49:09] <boru> Shouldn't the second letter be an 'i'?
[10:49:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't
[10:49:23] <boru> I was just typing that.
[10:49:27] <boru> Silly me.
[10:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i should rewrite mrplow to be able to translate in the future. they're turning off the api he uses for translation in favor of a new one soon.
[10:52:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #klingon I like big butts and I can not lie.
[10:52:03] <MrPlow> tIn butts vIparHa' 'ej laH wej jIQot. ( )
[10:53:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[10:53:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[10:53:07] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 344
[11:34:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:34:56] * exec derisively snatches shippon of turtle jizz from Bytram
[11:34:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:34:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:34:59] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 345
[11:35:19] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:35:21] * exec cohesively steals an old shoe full of a generic insult from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:36:28] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:36:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3332
[11:36:29] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:36:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3333
[11:36:37] <Bytram> it's a two-cupper this morning.
[11:36:42] * Bytram is tired
[11:36:42] <boru> #klingon &blah=foo
[11:36:42] <MrPlow> je blah = foo ( = )
[11:36:47] <boru> Hmm.
[11:36:55] <FatPhil> ~gday boru
[11:36:56] * exec single-candidly extracts a tremendouns number of bluehost from boru
[11:36:58] <boru> #klingon %26blah%3Dfoo
[11:36:59] <MrPlow> vatlhvI' 26blah vatlhvI' 3dfoo ( )
[11:37:07] <boru> ~gday FatPhil
[11:37:08] * exec literally connects a B cup of hot gas to FatPhil
[11:37:15] <boru> What in blazes is bluehost?
[11:37:40] <FatPhil> what are tremendouns?
[11:38:12] <boru> Probably an American word. They're always feckin' up English.
[11:40:00] <Bytram> ~gday FatPhil
[11:40:01] * exec sexually deallocates a bowl of constipation from FatPhil
[11:40:03] <Bytram> ~gday boru
[11:40:05] * exec diabolically internalizes a tremendouns number of 🐂💩 in boru
[11:40:13] <Bytram> ~gday paulej72
[11:40:15] * exec implicitly runs the Installshield Wizard to set up an easter basket of political correctness for paulej72
[11:43:16] <boru> ~gday Bytram
[11:43:18] * exec proverbially $action a floccinaucinihilipilificator of slack $preposition Bytram
[11:43:29] <boru> Floccinaucinihilipilificator. Nice.
[11:43:35] * boru is a floccinaucinihilipilificator.
[11:44:18] <boru> Especially at work.
[11:45:04] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:45:05] * exec deliciously reverse-engineers a tablespoonful of blood thinners from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:45:14] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[11:45:15] * exec cromulently slides a rusty trombone of spitwads to cmn32480
[11:46:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux, Meet DisplayPort - http://sylnt.us - coding-skills-on-display
[11:47:57] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[11:47:58] * exec sneakily crams shippon of splooge into bytram
[11:48:44] <Bytram> Splooge? Ewewwww.
[11:49:48] <cmn32480> I got spitwads... not much better
[11:50:31] * Bytram is looking at a weather forecast of rain today. And tomorrow. And Friday. Heavy at times and with a flood watch in effect. It's small comfort that at least it is not snow.
[11:55:11] * SirFinkus just beat nier again but the GOD DAMN GAME DIDN'T SAVE
[11:55:17] <SirFinkus> jesus christ
[11:55:19] <SirFinkus> frustrating
[11:55:24] <cmn32480> ~nelson SirFinkus
[11:55:25] <exec> 03SirFinkus: HA! HA!
[11:56:25] <SirFinkus> I have to redo like 3 hours of tedium
[11:56:50] * cmn32480 pushes the "Start OVer" button
[12:05:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:05:22] * exec provocatively nudges cream of tofurkey toward cmn32480
[12:05:48] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:05:49] * exec abnormally cracks open a kilobyte of underwear for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:05:58] <cmn32480> you win
[12:06:11] <cmn32480> just a little less laundry to do
[12:06:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[12:06:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[12:06:30] <MrPlow> Today: A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible early. A mix of clouds and sun this morning followed by cloudy and windy conditions this afternoon. High 72F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Tomorrow: Decreasing cloudiness and windy. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 61F. Winds NW at 20 to 30 mph.
[12:06:43] <cmn32480> ~weather
[12:06:44] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, sunny, wind NW at 5 mph, humidity 49% - Wednesday mostly sunny (52°F:68°F / 11°C:20°C), Thursday thunderstorm (42°F:63°F / 6°C:17°C), Friday cloudy (40°F:50°F / 4°C:10°C), Saturday sunny (40°F:62°F / 4°C:17°C)
[12:06:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'll do for smoking this evening i guess
[12:06:58] <cmn32480> ~weather Grapevoner
[12:06:59] <exec> 10Grapevine, TX, USA - currently 49°F / 9°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 18 mph, humidity 71% - Wednesday cloudy (48°F:71°F / 9°C:22°C), Thursday sunny (52°F:76°F / 11°C:24°C), Friday partly cloudy (59°F:79°F / 15°C:26°C), Saturday cloudy (63°F:84°F / 17°C:29°C)
[12:07:16] * cmn32480 should have packed shorts....
[12:07:42] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:07:44] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 31°F, cloudy, wind E at 4 mph, humidity 82% - Wednesday snow showers (30°F:37°F), Thursday showers (37°F:41°F), Friday showers (33°F:52°F), Saturday scattered showers (29°F:44°F)
[12:07:47] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:07:49] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 35°F, cloudy, wind NE at 7 mph, humidity 89% - Wednesday cloudy (35°F:40°F), Thursday rain (40°F:41°F), Friday mostly cloudy (36°F:48°F), Saturday cloudy (34°F:49°F)
[12:07:56] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:07:57] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 38°F, cloudy, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 90% - Wednesday cloudy (38°F:44°F), Thursday rain (45°F:46°F), Friday cloudy (40°F:52°F), Saturday partly cloudy (37°F:50°F)
[12:08:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Saint Petersburg, FL
[12:08:34] <exec> 10Saint Petersburg, FL, USA - currently 73°F / 23°C, fog, wind S at 15 mph, humidity 94% - Wednesday cloudy (72°F:83°F / 22°C:28°C), Thursday cloudy (61°F:74°F / 16°C:23°C), Friday cloudy (60°F:70°F / 16°C:21°C), Saturday sunny (59°F:71°F / 15°C:22°C)
[12:08:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Burlington, vt
[12:08:52] <exec> 10Burlington, VT, USA - currently 39°F / 4°C, cloudy, wind S at 4 mph, humidity 93% - Wednesday showers (37°F:50°F / 3°C:10°C), Thursday rain (40°F:46°F / 4°C:8°C), Friday showers (36°F:48°F / 2°C:9°C), Saturday scattered showers (32°F:43°F / 0°C:6°C)
[12:09:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather albany
[12:09:04] <exec> 10Albany WA - currently 61°F / 16°C, mostly cloudy, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 82% - Wednesday cloudy (56°F:65°F / 13°C:18°C), Thursday scattered showers (52°F:63°F / 11°C:17°C), Friday mostly cloudy (47°F:61°F / 8°C:16°C), Saturday partly cloudy (50°F:64°F / 10°C:18°C)
[12:09:11] * AndyTheAbsurd wondered which one it would pick
[12:09:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather albany, ny
[12:09:17] <exec> 10Albany, NY, USA - currently 43°F / 6°C, cloudy, wind W at 4 mph, humidity 90% - Wednesday partly cloudy (41°F:58°F / 5°C:14°C), Thursday rain (42°F:48°F / 6°C:9°C), Friday showers (38°F:50°F / 3°C:10°C), Saturday partly cloudy (33°F:52°F / 1°C:11°C)
[12:09:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather albany, ga
[12:09:34] <exec> 10Albany, GA, USA - currently 69°F / 21°C, cloudy, wind SE at 1 mph, humidity 95% - Wednesday storm (55°F:82°F / 13°C:28°C), Thursday cloudy (46°F:67°F / 8°C:19°C), Friday sunny (43°F:68°F / 6°C:20°C), Saturday sunny (45°F:73°F / 7°C:23°C)
[12:09:47] * TheMightyBuzzard is busying himself writing a sentry bot for the server
[12:10:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather albany, ontario
[12:10:08] <exec> 10Fort Albany, ON, Canada - currently 30°F / -1°C, cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 84% - Wednesday cloudy (22°F:35°F / -6°C:2°C), Thursday partly cloudy (15°F:32°F / -9°C:0°C), Friday mostly sunny (17°F:34°F / -8°C:1°C), Saturday partly cloudy (34°F:49°F / 1°C:9°C)
[12:11:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather uranus
[12:11:06] <MrPlow> 98.6F and windy.
[12:11:48] <boru> #weather sol
[12:11:48] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:11:56] <boru> Lame.
[12:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #help
[12:13:04] <MrPlow> Commands: help, weatheradd, weather, submit, seen, smake, smakeadd, youtube, abuser, bot, admin, socialist, roll, bnk, join, part, tell, klingon, g, sammich, sammichadd, say, pissoff, dieinafire, quit, nelson
[12:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[12:13:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> #klingon you like the trousers?
[12:13:27] <MrPlow> rur yavDaq qamDu'Daj lIS SoH? ( ?)
[12:14:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fakeweather sol:fookin hot
[12:14:24] <MrPlow> "sol:fookin hot" added.
[12:14:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather sol
[12:14:34] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:14:38] * TheMightyBuzzard frowns
[12:14:46] <boru> #klingon Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
[12:14:47] <MrPlow> tangqa' targh tangqa' tangqa' tangqa' tangqa' tangqa' tangqa' tangqa'. ( )
[12:15:09] <boru> Got one wrong.
[12:15:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can blame microsoft for that. bing translate.
[12:16:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> #klingon Bison from Buffalo, New York who are intimidated by other bison in their community also happen to intimidate other bison in their community.
[12:16:46] <MrPlow> bison vo' tangqa', chu' york 'Iv tInmo' 'ej ghIjmo' betleH pong community bison latlh je qaS community bison latlh tInmo' 'ej ghIjmo' betleH. (
[12:16:54] <FatPhil> ~weather Helsinki
[12:16:56] <exec> 10Helsinki, Finland - currently 40°F / 4°C, light rain showers, wind SW at 10 mph, humidity 86% - Wednesday showers (31°F:42°F / -1°C:6°C), Thursday partly cloudy (33°F:48°F / 1°C:9°C), Friday mostly cloudy (30°F:46°F / -1°C:8°C), Saturday mostly sunny (30°F:43°F / -1°C:6°C)
[12:17:08] <Bytram> #klingon klingon
[12:17:08] <MrPlow> tlhIngan ()
[12:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather ollie
[12:17:16] <MrPlow> IT'S GON RAIN
[12:17:20] <boru> #fakeweather Redmond:Endless torrential downpour of shite.
[12:17:20] <MrPlow> "Redmond:Endless torrential downpour of shite." added.
[12:17:23] <Bytram> #klingon tlhIngan ()
[12:17:24] <MrPlow> tlhingan () ( ())
[12:17:44] <Bytram> interesting... strictly english --> klingon?
[12:18:02] <Bytram> well, 'nuf with the fun... /me needs to get ready for work. afk
[12:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not adding to the db for some reason
[12:18:08] <boru> #klingon madra mór
[12:18:08] <MrPlow> madra mór ( ó)
[12:18:15] * boru narrows eyes.
[12:18:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> #klingon Sie sind eine schöne Mädchen
[12:18:17] <MrPlow> sie sind eine schöne mädchen ( ö ä)
[12:18:34] <boru> Wouldn't you know it, German is essentially Klingon.
[12:18:36] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd++ brilliant! thanks for the laugh!
[12:18:36] <Bender> karma - andytheabsurd: 22
[12:18:39] * AndyTheAbsurd begins ranting in German
[12:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather sol
[12:19:01] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:19:09] <Bytram> Ich hoffe sie viel glucck zu haben!
[12:19:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> It doesn't matter what you're saying in German, it's STILL gonna sound angry.
[12:19:12] <boru> #weather Redmond
[12:19:12] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fakeweather sol:fookin hot
[12:19:19] <MrPlow> "sol:fookin hot" added.
[12:19:33] <Bytram> ~weather riyadh
[12:19:35] <exec> 10Riyadh Saudi Arabia - currently 83°F, mostly sunny, wind N at 3 mph, humidity 12% - Wednesday mostly sunny (63°F:84°F), Thursday mostly sunny (68°F:90°F), Friday sunny (71°F:97°F), Saturday sunny (72°F:99°F)
[12:19:40] <Bytram> ~weather new delhi
[12:19:41] <exec> 10New Delhi, Delhi, India - currently 90°F, haze, wind E at 9 mph, humidity 38% - Wednesday partly cloudy (75°F:94°F), Thursday sunny (66°F:101°F), Friday sunny (63°F:95°F), Saturday sunny (66°F:94°F)
[12:19:42] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[12:19:50] <Bytram> ~weather new sydney
[12:19:52] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[12:19:56] <Bytram> ~weather sydney
[12:19:57] <exec> 10Sydney NSW - currently 61°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind SE at 6 mph, humidity 74% - Wednesday partly cloudy (54°F:70°F), Thursday partly cloudy (54°F:70°F), Friday partly cloudy (54°F:71°F), Saturday partly cloudy (55°F:73°F)
[12:20:01] <FatPhil> ~weather hell
[12:20:03] <exec> 10Washington, DC, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, sunny, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 54% - Wednesday mostly sunny (54°F:71°F / 12°C:22°C), Thursday thunderstorm (42°F:64°F / 6°C:18°C), Friday cloudy (38°F:48°F / 3°C:9°C), Saturday sunny (38°F:61°F / 3°C:16°C)
[12:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather austrailia
[12:20:06] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:20:06] <Bytram> okay... laters
[12:20:09] <boru> ~weather Bogota
[12:20:11] <exec> 10Bogotá, Bogota, Colombia - currently 48°F / 9°C, partly cloudy, wind N at 5 mph, humidity 84% - Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F:72°F / 8°C:22°C), Thursday partly cloudy (46°F:72°F / 8°C:22°C), Friday partly cloudy (51°F:73°F / 11°C:23°C), Saturday rain (54°F:71°F / 12°C:22°C)
[12:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather australia
[12:20:20] <MrPlow> fucken hot with poisonous snakes n shit everywhere
[12:20:26] * boru chuckles.
[12:20:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather yssy
[12:20:37] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:20:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Syndey
[12:20:42] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:20:56] <boru> Australia doesn't exist, you silly billy.
[12:21:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Syndey, NSW
[12:21:00] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[12:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather sydney, au
[12:21:02] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the mid 50s. Tomorrow: Intervals of clouds and sunshine. High 71F. SSW winds shifting to E at 10 to 15 mph.
[12:21:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> apparently not
[12:21:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:21:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:21:31] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 346
[12:26:24] <soy673> is 32C considered a danger in Murica?
[12:26:57] <soy673> not sure what that is in Fahrenheit
[12:27:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's whatever (32*1.8)+32 is
[12:27:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> so 89.6F
[12:28:04] <soy673> so, normal?
[12:28:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> soy673, nah. that's just considered warm-ish unless you live in a high humidity area, then it's considered hot but not dangerous.
[12:28:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> Call it 90F. Definitely considered hot but not generally considered dangerous except to peoplewith medical conditions.
[12:28:30] <cmn32480> or if you are fat...
[12:28:47] <soy673> my barometer is reading 60% humidity
[12:29:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not dangerous then.
[12:29:19] <soy673> ok
[12:29:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> if your barometer is reading humidity, there's something wrong with it.
[12:29:46] <soy673> it's chinese :)
[12:30:00] <soy673> barometer, thermometer, hygrometer 3 in 1
[12:30:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> (barometers measure air pressure, hygrometers measure moisture content of the air)
[12:31:42] <FatPhil> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[12:31:44] <exec> └─ 13Wi-Fi sex toy with built-in camera fails penetration test • The Register
[12:32:10] <soy673> it's a feature!
[12:33:25] <cmn32480> FatPhil - you ought to submit that just for the headline
[12:45:46] <clorox|2> (hours later) you know, technically, splooge counts as a spitwad
[12:57:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> whoo, three different IDE-ish things open on my computer at once!
[12:58:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> MS SQL Server Management Studio, Komodo IDE, and Anypoint Studio.
[12:58:31] <boru> Sounds like malware.
[12:58:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> In other words: they're all stupid, just in completely different ways.
[12:58:50] <clorox|2> Still better than SATA
[12:59:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...the hard drive connection standard?
[13:00:40] <clorox|2> vs IDE "D
[13:00:42] <clorox|2> :D
[13:01:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> ah, right
[13:01:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> been so long since I had to build a computer with that
[13:02:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> my current desktop was built in 2011 and I think has both SATA and EIDE connectors on the motherboard, but I'm only use the SATA ports.
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[13:18:17] <FatPhil> my main public-facing server is still 32-bit, IDE disks, VGA analogue output, ps2 mouse/kbd, ...
[13:18:44] <FatPhil> at least 12 years old.
[13:18:50] <boru> PS/2 for great justice.
[13:18:59] <boru> USB sucks.
[13:19:50] <clorox|2> But now imagine if they took SATA and made it parallel
[13:20:00] <clorox|2> Make ATA Parallel Again!
[13:20:31] <boru> I'm sure PATA is in the marketting pipeline when every last penny has been squeezed out of SATA.
[13:21:16] <boru> Then again, it's not going to get faster than PCIex any time soon.
[13:22:02] <clorox|2> That's good. Then we'd need a new bus
[13:22:43] <clorox|2> Serial VL Bus
[13:23:30] <clorox|2> If it works for hollywood, maybe reboots will work for computers too
[13:24:02] * clorox|2 predicts shiny new stand-alone, cloudless apps in 5 years
[13:25:24] * FatPhil tries to read the word "clown" every time he sees the word "cloud".
[13:25:57] <clorox|2> Do you have the Cloud-to-Butt Plus extension?
[13:26:47] <boru> LVDS, but for block storage.
[13:32:34] <clorox|2> IPv6-over-LVDS. Each pixel gets an address
[13:32:44] <clorox|2> Each sector too
[13:33:41] <soy673> did anyone read about the Sonic Screwdriver hack?
[13:34:04] <cmn32480> new cheat for Sonic the Hedgehog?
[13:34:33] <soy673> it's a modified firmware on a thunderbolt/ethernet thingamabob
[13:34:36] <clorox|2> Feed him screwdrivers and he pukes up unlimited rings?
[13:34:49] <soy673> allows you to bypass imac bootup passwords
[13:35:01] <soy673> and boot any media with the label "filer"
[13:35:19] <soy673> as far as I can see, I think it is exploiting DMA
[13:36:02] <soy673> why would the bios start executing firmware code as soon as you plug external peripherals in before the user even puts in the password is mind boggling
[13:36:28] <soy673> they probably thought of doing parallel hardware initialization in parallel
[13:36:40] <soy673> or try to look for an external user keyboard
[13:36:41] <boru> Let me guess, UEFI?
[13:36:43] <soy673> yep
[13:36:48] <soy673> imacs are all UEFI
[13:36:48] <boru> Emetic.
[13:36:58] <clorox|2> is thunderbolt related to firewire?
[13:37:24] <soy673> no
[13:37:26] <boru> UEFI is an abomination.
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[13:37:47] <soy673> afaik thunderbolt is PCIE connectors for external peripherals
[13:37:53] <soy673> yay PCIE DMA hacks
[13:38:02] <soy673> it's been theorized before
[13:51:45] * clorox|2 runs Norton to keep the bad packets at the back of the bus
[13:53:28] <soy673> see, the whole point of DMA is doing data transfers without interrupting the CPU
[13:53:46] <soy673> I move the bad packet to the driver's side without him noticing :)
[13:54:17] <clorox|2> That's why we need a DMA router/firewall
[13:54:42] <soy673> it's called VTd (for Intel anyway)
[13:54:55] <soy673> to range limit your DMAs
[13:54:57] <clorox|2> isn't that the virtualization thing?
[13:55:02] <soy673> and/or redirect them
[13:55:11] <soy673> yeah, it is mainly used for virtualization
[13:55:32] <clorox|2> oh see, bring back the classics. we'll run mainframes for desktops with hundreds of VMs
[13:55:34] <soy673> so you can still program your DMA controller to write to a virtualized address
[13:55:50] <soy673> with VTds, the MMIO intercepts it and corrects it to write to the physical address
[13:56:03] <soy673> all without interrupting the CPU
[13:56:10] <soy673> uh MMU
[13:56:13] <soy673> not MMIO
[13:57:33] <soy673> one the applications of VTd magics https://www.reddit.com
[13:57:37] <exec> └─ 13GPU Passthrough - Or How To Play Any Game At Near Native Performance In A Virtual Machine : pcmasterrace
[13:58:09] <soy673> the VM runs its own driver to control the hardware
[13:58:12] <clorox|2> but can I hotswap it?
[13:58:24] <soy673> hmm, probably not
[14:00:16] <clorox|2> Stable Linux for host, then swap display between win for games and 3edgy5u linux for everything else
[14:00:43] <soy673> yep, do macsec for your home network too
[14:00:49] <soy673> because you can
[14:01:40] <soy673> I wonder if anyone tried ZRAM on desktop systems
[14:01:51] <soy673> compress 32GB of RAM
[14:05:01] <clorox|2> We need pci-e cards with sodimm slots
[14:05:26] <soy673> nah, it doesn't have enough bandwidth
[14:05:40] <soy673> I guess it's fine if its another layer of cache
[14:05:51] <clorox|2> slow ram disks
[14:06:08] <soy673> still faster than your SSD
[14:35:32] <cmn32480> I ahte it when the DB server runs out of disk space....
[14:36:08] * cmn32480 goes to check the monitoring software that is supposed to tell him such things
[14:36:31] <clorox|2> Don't uses disks. Put it in the cloud
[14:36:43] <cmn32480> so... use somebody else's disks?
[14:36:57] <clorox|2> Use NoSQL. It's webscale
[14:38:02] * chromas remembers when xtranormal state was trendy
[14:38:55] <soy673> is soylen still run on mod_perl?
[14:39:45] <cmn32480> I believe so...
[14:39:50] <cmn32480> but that is somethign that TheMightyBuzzard
[14:39:54] <cmn32480> can answer better
[14:40:15] <soy673> just wondering what you guys use for performance
[14:40:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[14:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, mod_perl 2
[14:40:40] <soy673> TheMightyBuzzard: is soylent still run on mod_perl
[14:40:42] <soy673> ok
[14:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> apache 2.2.x
[14:41:02] <soy673> does it have problems with apache 2.4?
[14:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i forget what but there was issues with mod_perl 2 on 2.4
[14:41:46] <soy673> I'm trying to find out how to make mod_perl work with USERDIR
[14:41:59] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[14:42:16] <soy673> does ~ (to point to user home dirs) work in apache directives?
[14:42:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't believe so
[14:42:35] <soy673> I have some user home dirs that aren't located in /home
[14:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[14:42:46] <soy673> so I'm wondering how should I cover those
[14:42:59] <chromas> symlinks :D
[14:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that'd work
[14:43:11] <soy673> huh, that's a simple way of doing it
[14:43:28] <soy673> manual but kind-of working solution
[14:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's prolly a proper way to do it but damned if i know what it is off hand.
[14:44:24] <soy673> I have shared home dirs for some users over nfs, I mount them under /export/nfs/home
[14:44:38] <soy673> ok, time to experiment some more
[14:45:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, that'd be ugly for them if nfs is down. freeze up whatever's trying to use the dir.
[14:46:18] <soy673> yeah, but its a SOHO LAN, so not a huge problem
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[15:50:53] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[15:51:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> running out of steam but almost got the initial bot setup done.
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[16:17:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, yer bot = dead
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[16:36:43] <cmn32480> internet at the office shit the bed
[16:36:53] <cmn32480> so yeah.. he went with it
[16:37:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[16:38:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got the bot all connecting and crap. now just gotta write the dickwad detection and ass booting code.
[16:38:23] <cmn32480> is that the official name of the module?
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[16:39:04] <cmn32480> interesting.. I have IRC... but can't ping 8.8.8.8
[16:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, s'a new bot based on a small subset of MrPlow's code going by the name of sentrybot
[16:40:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc nick will be Talos unless Deucalion has a better idea
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[16:43:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll have me a celebratory nap and poke at him some more after
[16:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[16:43:13] <Bender> karma - naps: 58
[16:52:14] <cmn32480> interesting...
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[18:05:52] <Deucalion> ~weather
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[18:05:59] <Deucalion> boo.... no bot
[18:06:02] <Deucalion> !weather
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[18:40:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather london, uk
[18:40:39] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Tomorrow: Intervals of clouds and sunshine. High 62F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.
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[19:48:19] <Deucalion> ~weather
[19:48:20] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 54°F / 12°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 8 mph, humidity 57% - Wednesday partly cloudy (42°F:59°F / 6°C:15°C), Thursday partly cloudy (45°F:62°F / 7°C:17°C), Friday partly cloudy (42°F:61°F / 6°C:16°C), Saturday mostly sunny (43°F:64°F / 6°C:18°C)
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[20:02:14] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 24°C/75°F, 5:02 pm GMT-3, Wednesday, 5 April 2017
[20:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent, just fingered out how to save spawning another thread for something.
[20:15:58] <cmn32480> have a good night fellas
[20:16:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard '
[20:16:06] * exec figuratively pesters a volley of floccinaucinihilipilification with TheMightyBuzzard
[20:16:30] * cmn32480 runs for the airport
[20:40:30] <Deucalion> wouldn't a taxi be more expedient?
[20:47:14] <nick> hey Deucalion
[20:48:15] <Deucalion> hey nick - things look pleasantly warm where you are :)
[20:49:14] <nick> that they are
[20:49:31] <nick> what about your side of the globe?
[20:52:47] <Deucalion> mostly balmy for the time of year - good to see the sun again after the last few months of typical grey monotony. Things be blooming, birds be chirping at annoying o'clock - the usual. Expect it's still grim up north.... :)
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[20:55:29] <nick> it'd be great if you knew which of the 5 out of 365 days in england, when the sun shines
[20:59:24] <Deucalion> Not too bad in my part - generally reliably OK May to Sept. Don't really get snow that sticks around either in the immediate vicinity - thames "riveria" micro-climate and all that guff. Occasional risk of being flooded out of course :D
[21:00:05] * Deucalion idly asses GPU and monitor purchases
[21:02:43] * chromas asses the channel and runs away
[21:02:44] <Deucalion> still looking like 1060 or 1070 is where the bang for buck is. I was hoping the 1080Ti would depress prices further down the lineup ~le sigh~.
[21:04:19] * Deucalion lobs javelin after chromas in a hail mary attempt at glory... fails miserably - goes back to assing GPUs...... I knew what I meant ~shrug~
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[21:22:12] <nick> what sort of GPU you looking for, Deucalion
[21:27:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Laptop is Dead - http://sylnt.us - vive-le-roi
[21:28:08] <Deucalion> nick - Some gaming ooomph, multi head - probably all displayport at this point, linux friendly - so most likely NVidia unless the driver landscape has changed (yes I know it's a binary blob). I'm not made of gold so bang for buck is paramount - new I'm looking at 1060 or 1070. Previous gen, 2nd hand with known providence also considered - bu where the hell one finds such things I do not know :/
[21:29:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, nvidia binary blob is currently king but if you're going OSS driver, AMD is the way to go.
[21:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nouveau driver is pants
[21:37:01] <Deucalion> I wouldn;t go OSS driver for either AMD or nvidia for what I want out of it - I'm not RMS - although having the nvidia module / driver incorporated does mess up secure boot as it taints the kernel etc. But these days your userspace is most likely to get compromised by a driveby whilst everything is up and mounted in the clear not by an evil maid theoretical attack, so I'm kinda chill on that front.
[21:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> the amdgpu oss driver is quite usable really. i've only found one thing that wouldn't run on it and i forget what that was.
[21:42:41] <chromas> I tried nouveau the other day. Works great for composited desktop but it's like a Commodore 64 for games
[21:43:02] <chromas> Also it's easier to do mixed GPUs with than the blob driver
[21:43:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they're still trying to figure out how to do stuff the amd crew figured out several years ago.
[21:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/ crew/gpu crew/
[21:43:56] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they're still trying to figure out how to do stuff the amdgpu crew figured out several years ago.
[21:43:58] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they're still trying to figure out how to do stuff the amdgpu crew figured out several years ago.
[21:44:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake exec
[21:44:05] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with five across the eyes
[21:44:14] <Deucalion> Prolly cos games are using those hidden calls for optimisation that are not documented and only get revealed under NDA when working direct with Nvidia. Can't blame them really, they're in an arms race.
[21:44:32] <sedctl> ~sed off
[21:44:35] <exec> sed disabled for 10#Soylent
[21:45:39] <chromas> Maybe they should put their secrets in the hardware instead of the software.
[21:46:34] * TheMightyBuzzard shakes head
[21:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i utterly fail to see how having people unable to code properly for your driver helps business.
[21:47:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[21:47:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[21:47:41] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 347
[21:52:54] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, it's all secret sauce - apparently revealing how the driver should be addressed in all its glory could reveal ~something~ about the underlying hardware to the competition... that apparently is not available by use of a scanning electron microscope - and I am sure both parties use those on each other's hardware. Hmm... thinking about it, given the hardware is trivially examinable - that explains the move to push the proprie
[21:52:55] <Deucalion> tary fu into kernel level firmware modules that are obfuscated up the wotsit - to keep the magic fu under wraps. Or something. I may have just invoked wooo to many times in that sentence and bad things are about to happen.
[21:53:37] <chromas> Wouldn't it be better to push that into onboard firmware or somethin'?
[21:54:22] <Deucalion> That would leave less space for a bajillion CUDA cores that no-one needs but looks good on the spec sheet :D
[21:54:35] <chromas> Or build it so the open driver can load a blob for extra fanciness instead of a whole separate driver
[21:55:02] <chromas> I need moar coars! I need one for each pixel, durnit
[21:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, stuff the proprietary nonsense into a rom chip on the board
[21:56:00] <Deucalion> Problem is - the OSS crowd want the vid driver to be in userspace whereas the card manus want their blob loaded up as a kernel module so it can get raw pipes to raw and CPU etc. I see both sides of the argument.
[21:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. i want it to be kernelspace
[21:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i disapprove of userspace drivers as a general rule
[21:57:13] * chromas replaces TMB's drivers with FUSE
[21:57:16] <Deucalion> Depends on the device
[21:57:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[21:57:21] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a dropbear
[21:57:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuse is teh debil
[21:57:33] * chromas invents GPfUse
[21:58:11] * Deucalion has been up and conscious quite long enough - time for a horizontal orientation for a while.
[21:58:13] <Deucalion> Laters all
[21:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> normal_users_able_to_load_drivers = DONOTWANT
[21:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> adios
[21:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean shit, i lives with two childrens and i sure as fuck don't want them loading a driver even on their own laptop.
[22:01:44] <paulej72> allo allo
[22:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, our man in prince town
[22:03:09] <paulej72> hows it hangin TheMightyBuzzard
[22:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> goin good for post-morning. actually getting some code out for the anti-spam bot.
[22:04:24] <paulej72> is it a sin to eat vegan mayo on chicken :)
[22:04:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> not if you're out of regular mayo
[22:05:02] <paulej72> did you write it with rust
[22:05:41] <paulej72> no, but the best sirracha mayo I can find is vegan
[22:06:36] <chromas> What do they use in place of eggs?
[22:06:54] <paulej72> soy what else would they use
[22:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yarp. which is why it don't crash due to off-by-one errors but still runs so compact it don't even show up on top sorted by RES.
[22:08:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't built the protections in to it yet but i can prolly get them done by tomorrow noonish. which is before Deucalion can monkey with it anyways.
[22:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> very simple bot really. doesn't need to be complex for a single server like ours.
[22:08:58] <paulej72> but it can be another #fite target
[22:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed it shall be
[22:10:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> only thing it really needs is to be able to join channels, to sync its settings with its config db, and the ability to DLINE and RESV
[22:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> after that it's just rules for when to do it
[22:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, it doesn't even need ssl support since it's gonna be local on bery
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