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[00:21:07] <cmn32480> #smake sirecote
[00:21:07] * MrPlow smakes sirecote upside the head with an ugly stick
[00:21:11] <cmn32480> #smake SirFinkus
[00:21:11] * MrPlow smakes SirFinkus upside the head with a paternity suit
[00:21:46] <SirFinkus> poor sirecote always getting highlighted and smaked instead of me
[00:22:08] <cmn32480> yes
[00:22:19] <cmn32480> you should change your name to SpallsHurgenson
[00:22:32] <SirFinkus> who?
[00:22:37] <SirFinkus> maybe kobach would be better
[00:23:31] <cmn32480> you could be Quark
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[00:35:54] <cmn32480> do i need to .kick your actual nick?
[00:36:00] <cmn32480> Fnord666_
[00:36:19] <SirFinkus> use /ghost
[00:37:05] <Fnord666_> no it's fine. I'm on the web interface
[00:37:17] <Fnord666_> but my usual nick is still on via ZNC"
[00:37:26] <cmn32480> ahhhhh
[00:37:38] <Fnord666_> just don't have a client on this computer ATM
[00:38:05] <Fnord666_> thank you though
[00:38:20] <Fnord666_> and you too SirFinkus
[00:38:27] <Fnord666_> how is everyone tonight?
[00:38:50] <SirFinkus> full of spite
[00:39:18] <Fnord666_> that sounds unpleasant.
[00:39:51] <cmn32480> full of beer
[00:40:01] <Fnord666_> that sounds more pleasant
[00:40:11] <cmn32480> it is wonderful;
[00:40:57] <Fnord666_> I'm ROTFLMAO re the latest NC story
[00:41:28] * cmn32480 refrains from voicing his opinions regarding that particular fuck up
[00:42:11] <SirFinkus> I'm working on being full of both
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[00:43:26] <Fnord666_> SirFinkus: I personally recommend a transition from the former to the later
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[01:10:25] <cmn32480> god bless beer
[01:16:46] <paulej72> cmn32480: speaking of beer how was work today
[01:17:00] <cmn32480> up and down
[01:17:07] <cmn32480> up and down ladders
[01:17:07] <paulej72> did you get the mezzanine done
[01:17:11] <cmn32480> up and down scissor lifts
[01:17:17] <cmn32480> nope
[01:19:03] <cmn32480> need to borrow one of the ladders from an electrician
[01:19:11] <cmn32480> and they were busy as hell all day
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[01:41:43] <cmn32480> word to the wise: "Never trust a fart after Taco Tuesday"
[02:13:16] * Deucalion wanders in, plunks down and emits a large ~sigh~
[02:16:59] <paulej72> cmn32480: was it a shart
[02:17:13] <cmn32480> almost
[02:17:19] <cmn32480> i got a little scared
[02:17:47] <paulej72> then you didn't push the boundry enoguh
[02:18:26] <paulej72> Deucalion: how's it hanging
[02:22:06] <cmn32480> it was close enough to not push the envelope any further
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[02:40:12] <Deucalion> paulej72, just got done with 8 days of shifts... just winding down, work togs on a boil wash to halt further spread of nasties and smells... tis amazing how bad you can smell when job #1 is kneel in this here fast food kitchen area to replace itemX job#2 is grummage around in this rat infested floor space to trace the gnawed cable and splice it - then comes job #3.... corp HQ for a "premier client" - well sorry I'm going in there smelling o
[02:40:13] <Deucalion> f stale fat and rat droppings even if all they need is a slap upside the head for putting the yellow toner in the black slot. That was just Monday morning... last Monday. Nuff said... I'm a fucking walking talking biohazard come the end of my time on shifts :D
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[02:52:33] <charon> what a coincidence Deucalion. my band's name is "Stale Fat and Rat Droppings". We're plaxing at Wembley next week
[02:55:47] <Deucalion> you'll be there if hades freezes over and you grow your claws into ice skates right?
[02:57:27] <Deucalion> If you make it - I'll come guest sing for you... but I suspect you'd just melt in my aura of sheer awesomeness :D
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[03:00:08] <charon> if you know the words to https://www.youtube.com you are welcome any time
[03:00:10] <exec> └─ 13The Crying Game (6/11) Movie CLIP - The Crying Game (1992) HD - YouTube
[03:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China's High-Tech Tool to Fight Toilet Paper Bandits - http://sylnt.us - squeezably-soft
[03:11:41] <Deucalion> I can cram anything into my head for regurgitation on a minute's notice charon - victim of my education in that way... whether I can sing reasonably.... well we have auto-tune for that - as for stage presence.. think Brian Blessed on a good day... hiding under a sheet the next :D I'd fit right in luvvy world!
[03:14:15] <charon> like Brian "I will chew all the scenery, upstage my co-stars, and make you love it" Blessed? you're signed up
[03:20:45] <Deucalion> I'll eat the fucking audience and make them love it whilst chopping off my own digits due to frostbite induced necrosis from a recent mountain ascent, then I will have families with all the survivors of the great Deucalion Eats The Audience debacle - I'll either get famous or be in jail. :D Wait... I think those two are synonymous ...
[03:21:38] <Deucalion> Oh.... and the whole time narrate the whole thing in the most baritone baritone anyone ever heard... and grow a beard :D
[03:22:32] <charon> Hawkmen, DIIIIIIIIIIVE!
[03:22:34] <cmn32480> do you actually grow the beard during the show?
[03:32:56] <Deucalion> cmn32480, I grow a beard every 3 minutes I'm so ~Brian Blessed~. He's a bumbling arse really but he's renowned for his delivery when acting. I'm sure YT has examples. He's more a Thespian than any Flash Gordon fame may have brought.
[03:33:17] <cmn32480> ahhh
[03:41:10] <paulej72> #yt Brian Blessed
[03:41:10] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[04:01:00] * Deucalion hides his pride of bumbling british idiots,,,,, then carries on being one surreptitiously,,, for which I unreservedly apologise.... ARSE.... oh wait :D
[04:03:27] * Deucalion retires to bed before the entire facade of decency falls around the ankles in a flaming pile of underwear and past opportunities regretted.
[04:13:53] * cmn32480 retires into the moon set
[04:14:00] <cmn32480> #yt trigger happy weird al
[04:14:00] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
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[09:05:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Steven Hawking and the Golden Ticket - http://sylnt.us - how-appropriate
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[11:23:54] <paulej72> coffee++
[11:23:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3293
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[11:59:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:59:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3294
[12:14:55] <Subsentient> Aaaaalright then.
[12:14:58] <Subsentient> Interesting.
[12:15:38] <Subsentient> So, apparently posting a completely empty story isn't a violation of editorial policies, but showing a creepy face image as a joke to at least make it halfway interesting, is.
[12:17:04] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[12:17:04] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard
[12:17:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> hah
[12:17:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ISPs Say Your Web Browsing and App Usage History Isn't “Sensitive” - http://sylnt.us - I'll-determine-what's-sensitive
[12:17:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> you expect editorial to make some sort of sense?
[12:17:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> or be consistent?
[12:18:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> I say again: HAH!
[12:18:07] <Subsentient> I just don't like hypocrisy, that's all.
[12:18:34] * AndyTheAbsurd may have been working for a newspaper for too long (and it's only been a bit over two years)
[12:18:48] <Subsentient> I didn't post anything pornographic or gorey. It was literally just this: http://i.imgur.com
[12:18:52] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:18:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3295
[12:20:58] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:21:05] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Saved for NCommander to post a story
[12:21:12] <Bytram> "Riveting story. Can't wait for the follow up and that image can't be unseen ... "
[12:21:21] <Bytram> ==> "can't be unseen"
[12:21:34] <Subsentient> Muahahahahahaha
[12:22:06] <Bytram> yes, I saw that before: https://soylentnews.org
[12:22:08] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Saved for NCommander to post a story
[12:22:28] <Bytram> showing that there was at least some intention to, umm, to put it mildly "disturb"
[12:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Subsentient
[12:22:40] * MrPlow smakes Subsentient upside the head with . . . ah, never mind. I'll do it later
[12:23:10] <Subsentient> Bytram: I figured I'd make it interesting, as seeing the story was COMPLETELY EMPTY.
[12:23:23] <Subsentient> It didn't show the image on the front page either.
[12:24:23] <Subsentient> Bytram: Interesting that the censorship seems to have begun. How's it feel being the catalyst to start this new era?
[12:25:12] <Bytram> with power comes responsibility; the actions, and followup, make their own case
[12:26:07] <Bytram> it was NOT a unilateral decision - it was discussed with other editors and others and that was the agreed course of action.
[12:27:32] <Subsentient> Bytram: I don't suppose you showed them what the image actually was before you deleted it.
[12:27:58] <Bytram> they had seen it on their own...
[12:29:08] <Bytram> of the literally billions of photos one had available, why make the choice of a graphic photo intended to shock, instead of ,say, a classic engineering mistake?
[12:29:41] <Subsentient> Bytram: You haven't seen shocking.
[12:30:23] <Bytram> so you still see no problem with the choice of photo?
[12:31:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, what?
[12:31:11] <Subsentient> Bytram: If it had been any other article I had chosen, if I had vandalized something legitimate, or if I posted tubgirl or goatse, sure, I can understand it. That was a benign, slightly weird image taken from Cyanide and Happiness.
[12:31:42] <Subsentient> And it was posted on a story that never should have been displayed in the first place.
[12:31:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i missed something. wtf is going on?
[12:31:55] <Subsentient> I also took care to make sure it wouldn't show on the homepage.
[12:32:16] <Subsentient> I've been here since SoylentNews first opened. My bot aqu4 was written while SoylentNews was still under the command of NCommander's predecessor.
[12:32:28] <Bytram> to you, that may be "benign" and "slightly weird" -- others saw differently. Upon discussion with others, there was a concurrence that it was inappropriate and I took point to replace it.
[12:32:54] <Bytram> I appreciate your contributions to the site
[12:33:10] <Bytram> I have made many contributions to the site, as well.
[12:33:24] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: This is what I put on that empty story, only visible when one selected "Read More". http://i.imgur.com
[12:33:39] * TheMightyBuzzard shakes his head
[12:33:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, you shoulda knowed better.
[12:34:20] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: So should the guy who posted a completely empty story.
[12:34:29] <Subsentient> I was at least trying to make it interesting.
[12:34:50] <Bytram> that you fail to see that others found the picture to be inappropriate, reacted to it (was that not the intent?), and that steps were taken to address it , and that you still continue to defend the choice of that picture-- THAT says far more about the situation than anything I can say.
[12:34:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> well sure but he's tha COO
[12:35:42] <Bytram> out of the millions/billions of pics on the net, many others could have shown a blunder, without being so repulsive.
[12:35:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> inappropriate or not is irrelevant, SN ain't nobody's editorial playground.
[12:36:14] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Yeah, so why the fuck was that story posted?
[12:36:43] <Bytram> people make mistakes.
[12:36:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause NCommander reserved himself some space and it accidentally went live when he didn't fill it. nobody touched it cause you don't overrule the COO.
[12:36:51] <Bytram> when I make a mistake, I own it.
[12:37:02] <Bytram> when NC made a mistake, he owned it.
[12:37:19] <Bytram> site crashes
[12:37:22] <Bytram> things going sideways
[12:37:31] <Bytram> that kind of stuff.
[12:37:54] <Bytram> in this case, he asked for a slot to be reserved, I complied, and I failed to mark it as NOT display. I'll own that.
[12:38:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram
[12:38:06] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with great responsibility
[12:38:07] <Bytram> I expected him to fill in the story before it went live.
[12:38:15] <Subsentient> Bytram: That's fine, you could have removed the picture without stripping my privileges.
[12:38:15] <Bytram> I was at work when this all came down...
[12:38:24] <Subsentient> https://soylentnews.org
[12:38:26] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Saved for NCommander to post a story
[12:38:31] <Bytram> I did not strip your priviledges
[12:38:55] <Subsentient> [Image redacted. There was a permissions issue -- the story was updated to include an image not in keeping with the editorial policy of this site. The party responsible has had their privileges rescinded.
[12:39:00] <Subsentient> Really.
[12:39:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, do you really not see that there was a line you crossed? i mean it wasn't a major one but it was a line.
[12:39:22] <Subsentient> 4I DON'T BELIEVE YOU Bytram
[12:39:23] <Bytram> I was stating what was done, not that I did it. Simple English.
[12:39:43] <Bytram> you don't have to believe *me* -- ask the other eds.
[12:39:47] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It wasn't a major one, I know that.
[12:40:57] <Bytram> not major to you -- others disagreed.
[12:41:19] <Bytram> I'd love to stay and chat, but I need to be AT work in less than an hour... you'll have to find someone else to argue with.
[12:41:22] <Subsentient> Bytram: I suppose if the eds wanted my privileges stripped, so be it.
[12:41:28] <Subsentient> $quit
[12:41:28] <aqu4> You aren't authorized to tell me to do that.
[12:41:31] <Subsentient> Really.
[12:41:37] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:41:40] <Bytram> .op
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[12:41:48] <Bytram> .deop
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[12:41:58] <Subsentient> .
[12:42:03] <Bytram> laters... gotta get ready for wwork.
[12:42:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> adios
[12:43:51] <Subsentient> All good things come to an end.
[12:44:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept circles
[12:44:23] <Subsentient> I'm tired of being stuck in loops.
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[12:48:12] <cmn32480> for the record - I requested his privs be pulled.
[12:48:18] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:19] * exec single-candidly sodomizes a cockle of Boaty McBoatface with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:54:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:54:25] * exec cautiously flicks a gigabyte of signed integer overflow at cmn32480
[12:56:35] * cmn32480 heads back to the customer site for the home stretch
[13:02:04] <paulej72> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:02:05] * exec dexterously piles a cache of stale doughnuts on TheMightyBuzzard
[13:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday paulej72
[13:02:16] * exec provocatively gives birth to a subset of alternative news for paulej72
[13:02:47] <paulej72> depending on how stale the donuts were its a wash
[13:03:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> and if the alternative news was humorous or not
[13:03:56] * TheMightyBuzzard is goofing around with loading rust shared libs in perl this morning
[13:04:07] <paulej72> fun
[13:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, if it turns out it's easy to do i may consider moving some of the heavy lifting we do in pure perl to them. on my vm.
[13:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! finally got a rust lib working from perl!
[13:47:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korean Hacking Group Behind Recent Attacks on Banks - http://sylnt.us - rising-from-the-dead
[13:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty. now i can do stuff that perl is really slow on much faster.
[13:57:35] <paulej72> and how is that good TheMightyBuzzard :)
[13:58:12] <paulej72> not possible perl is the fastest
[13:58:41] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:58:57] <boru> I might give Rust a look again.
[14:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure what it'd be good for yet but i'm almost certain it could make some of our wicked slow subs much faster
[14:01:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to leave that until i find an actual use case where it would be the right answer though. i just wanted to figure out how to do it.
[14:02:03] <boru> Sounds reasonable; solutions looking for problems get out of hand. Suddenly, you have C++.
[14:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> like it'd damned sure speed up comment rendering but fuuuuuck... i do not want to have to recompile a .so every time we change a little bit of html.
[14:04:00] <boru> I posit it should be fairly easy to decouple data from processing with some perfunctory design.
[14:04:21] <boru> i.e. code is parametric; takes data, takes parameters, produces output.
[14:04:37] <paulej72> what we really need to focus on is some MySql slow query bashing
[14:04:38] <boru> Sounds a bit tautological, but you know what I mean.
[14:04:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is. unfortunately having to read that data in is nasty slow.
[14:04:54] <boru> Read it from where?
[14:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> currently from memory. previously from template files.
[14:05:28] <paulej72> slow as snot MySQL queries as well
[14:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[14:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we done picked the low-hanging fruit getting this far. going to be smaller, incremental gains from here out.
[14:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[14:11:20] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 332
[15:18:46] <FatPhil> I presume you've got slow query logging enabled?
[15:25:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Intel Optane 3D XPoint SSD Released: 375 GB for $1520 - http://sylnt.us - sooner-than-Duke-Nukem-Forever
[16:56:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Controversy at Mayo Clinic: Patients with Private Insurance Get Priority - http://sylnt.us - ham-and-mayo-on-wry?
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[18:16:25] <FatPhil> what's the difference between X's middle-button paste and its shift-ctrl-ins paste?
[18:17:30] <FatPhil> Hmmm, this isn't the IRC channel with X developers on it, maybe I should try elsewhere!
[18:29:02] <boru> X has more than one buffer, iirc.
[18:29:05] <boru> Two, I think.
[18:29:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, selection buffer and clipboard
[18:29:45] <boru> At least that's what I recall from setting up copy-to-X in vim many moons ago.
[18:29:51] <boru> Aye, that's them.
[18:30:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> but I believe that what button does what depends on your configuration
[18:30:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> You can examine their contents with some of the options to xclip, IIRC.
[18:31:03] <boru> Aye.
[18:35:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Judge OKs Warrant to Reveal Who Searched a Crime Victim's Name on Google - http://sylnt.us - not-that-Gary-Larson
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[20:59:39] <chromas> https://threatpost.com
[21:02:42] <chromas> https://motherboard.vice.com
[21:03:01] <chromas> Why do tractors have firmware?
[21:16:34] <lemon> we gotta put computers in *everything*
[21:17:05] <lemon> dildos, tractors, toasters, coffee pots, refrigerators
[21:30:06] <chromas> oh yeah
[21:30:11] <chromas> even computers have computers in them
[21:32:08] <chromas> 'sup dawg. I heard you like numbers so I put internet in yo' vibrator so you can get digital while you get digital, if you know what I mean
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[21:46:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Bans Tablets and Laptops on Flights From Eight Muslim-Majority Countries - http://sylnt.us - pure-coincidence
[22:07:06] <chromas> from the allahu-samsung! dept
[23:05:54] <paulej72> favicons are a bitch now
[23:06:54] <boru> Howso?
[23:08:04] <paulej72> 12 differnt resolutions to support all of the differnt devices and their high dpi screens
[23:08:33] <paulej72> the old 16x16 icon is no longer a good fit
[23:08:47] <boru> Wtf, seriously?
[23:09:06] <paulej72> well it's 12ish
[23:09:21] <boru> Shame you can't use SVGs.
[23:09:36] <boru> Seems like overkill, though.
[23:11:16] <charon_> make a 48x48 and let devices downscale it?
[23:11:39] <paulej72> firefox it the worse, it will load all of the icons in an then uses the last one it found
[23:11:54] <boru> gg
[23:12:21] <paulej72> some of the devices request a 310x310 icon
[23:12:55] <charon_> wow, someone missed the "powers of 2" day in math class
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