#Soylent | Logs for 2017-03-02
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[01:14:00] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard:
[01:14:17] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[01:14:17] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard
[01:15:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Famous Patent Troll’s Lawsuit Against Google Booted Out of East Texas - http://sylnt.us - california-sun-turns-trolls-to-stone?
[01:16:01] <Subsentient> $tell TheMightyBuzzard Something tells me that there's somewhere in your codebase that's causing the bottleneck with comments. It shouldn't take that long to process a bunch of text, it really shouldn't.
[01:16:01] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
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[02:45:52] <paulej72> nobody's home
[02:45:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Adds Store App-Only Restriction as Option in Windows 10 - http://sylnt.us - the-garden-is-now-barricaded
[02:46:06] <paulej72> except Bender
[02:46:12] <paulej72> Bender++
[02:46:12] <Bender> karma - bender: -2
[02:46:19] <paulej72> lol
[02:49:47] <takyon> https://www.nasa.gov
[02:49:48] <exec> └─ 13404 | NASA
[02:50:12] <takyon> https://arstechnica.com
[02:50:14] <exec> └─ 13If you think NASA is frustrated with SpaceX, you’re probably right | Ars Technica
[02:51:33] <takyon> http://www.sciencemag.org
[02:55:28] <takyon> http://www.nextbigfuture.com
[02:55:29] <exec> └─ 13Next Big Future: RRAM/PCM-Based Brain-Gates
[02:57:15] <takyon> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[02:57:16] <exec> └─ 13Report: Beau Biden’s widow is in a relationship with her late husband’s brother - The Washington Post
[02:57:28] <takyon> https://www.nytimes.com'
[02:57:30] <exec> └─ 13Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking - The New York Times
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[04:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ultrasound Scalpel Destroys Liver Tumors - http://sylnt.us - where-does-the-tumor-go?
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[05:46:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Do Advertisers Know You Better Than You Know Yourself? - http://sylnt.us - this-article-brought-to-you-by-Cambridge-Analytica:-the-tastemakers
[07:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oldest Evidence of Life on Earth Found in 3.77-4.28 Billion Year Old Fossils - http://sylnt.us - older-than-dirt
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[08:46:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Street View AI Scanner Can Predict How People Will Vote - http://sylnt.us - what-about-my-gremlin?
[10:16:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Like Start-Ups, Most Intentional Communities Fail--Why? - http://sylnt.us - not-commutitarian
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[11:48:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Turns to AI to Prevent Suicides - http://sylnt.us - because-no-one-will-game-this
[11:59:58] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:59:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3246
[12:00:01] <Bytram> !uid
[12:00:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6507, owned by JombieMan
[12:08:10] <Bytram> http://threatpost.com
[12:10:21] <paulej72> I just thought the coffee karma was the max UID. I thought wtf is wrong now
[12:10:54] <paulej72> Bytram: good morning
[12:11:08] <Bytram> paulej72: Good Morning!!!
[12:11:15] <paulej72> I think we fried TheMightyBuzzard's brain
[12:11:18] <Bytram> how are you doing today?
[12:11:25] <paulej72> not bad
[12:11:28] <Bytram> I think so, too.
[12:11:36] <Bytram> did you see what I wrote in #dev?
[12:12:34] <paulej72> I did not sleep too well as my room was to hot due to 70+ temps yesterday in Princeton. It was susposed to get cold last night so I left the windows closed
[12:12:54] <paulej72> About a break day. Yes
[12:13:14] <paulej72> but I'll be busy tomorrow and most of Saturday
[12:13:44] <Bytram> nothing I said in that suggestion required you to be back at it on friday... =)
[12:13:49] <paulej72> So if something comes up I'll work on it today
[12:14:07] <Bytram> okay
[12:14:54] <paulej72> I jst saw a post about parent links not working if the parent crosses the page break
[12:15:54] <paulej72> Semi easy fix, we just need to shot circuit the pagination when cid is set, Already done for flat but needs done for theaded modes
[12:16:06] <Bytram> makes sense... "page boundary" -- that could be on a per-user basis, right?
[12:16:14] <paulej72> yes
[12:16:35] <Bytram> so you have to calculate the page number based on each user's pref? ...
[12:16:51] <paulej72> yes
[12:16:55] <Bytram> which means that when I post a link to a comment, and it includes a page number, what works for me might not work for you?
[12:17:06] <paulej72> yep
[12:17:11] <Bytram> :/
[12:17:33] <Bytram> hmmm
[12:18:28] <paulej72> something that we could not have easily found in testing, all the people banging on the code tends to break things fast
[12:18:36] <Bytram> and page sizeis basically ignored so as to include the whole comment tree?
[12:18:54] <paulej72> yes in threaded modes
[12:19:16] <Bytram> k
[12:19:20] <paulej72> they're suggestions
[12:19:27] <Bytram> heh heh... You've watched me long enough, but I bet you can see my thought processes at this point!
[12:19:55] <Bytram> just trying to cover the problem domain and identify what are the pertinent parameters
[12:20:28] <paulej72> yeah a parent should not be in a different page, but in fast commented artiles it could move from under you
[12:20:56] <Bytram> agreed
[12:20:57] <paulej72> like the missing comment from the other day
[12:21:21] <Bytram> backing up, "in threaded modes" ... that leaves "no comments" (doh - trivial case) and flat, so just show that particular comment, right?
[12:21:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:21:34] <paulej72> but in flat mode a parent can easily be on a different page
[12:21:51] <paulej72> flat has been fixed
[12:21:56] <Bytram> in flat mode, why show parent? ... oh, you mean when a user clicks on the "Parent" button?
[12:22:07] <paulej72> yes
[12:22:11] <Bytram> k
[12:22:52] <paulej72> ok I need to start getting ready for work. I'll check back in later
[12:24:20] <Bytram> I'm wondering if there is any actual need to present the page number to the user in the URL? Is this not something we should be doing internally? Given a story's comment tree, Mode, break/thresh, and CID, it would seem to me a sub that returns a structure with a single parent down to all the leaves, flagged as to display 'style" for each comment in that tree would suffice?
[12:24:27] <Bytram> I'm not saying that well, but basically a glorified filter
[12:24:35] <Bytram> k
[12:40:49] <paulej72> it is needed to send you to the correct page when changing your settings or posting and modding
[12:41:15] <paulej72> easier to send it than recalculate it
[12:41:30] <paulej72> but it would fix some other isues
[12:41:44] <Bytram> well, yes, is good to sav3e recalculating, but is not much help if the old value is incorrect. :/
[12:42:49] <Bytram> given an SID, and a CID, would it be possible to have a function return the effective page #? Or, alternatively the TLC pid?
[12:47:28] <paulej72> we will need to investigate this and see if we can do this in a saner way
[12:48:12] <Bytram> agreed -- strategic thinking instead of just tactical.
[12:50:10] <paulej72> I have a way to do it I think, but it will take some work and a lot of testing
[12:50:40] * Bytram looks around and wonders if he is being volunteered
[12:50:56] <Bytram> hey, maybe we should move to #dev so we can refer back to this discussion later?
[12:51:01] <Bytram> see ya there
[13:15:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Emma Watson Explains Why She Won't Take Selfies With Fans - http://sylnt.us - tinfoil-hats-are-making-a-comeback
[13:57:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 7 Job Seekers for Every Job in USA that Pays Enough to Live On - http://sylnt.us - race-to-the-bottom
[14:56:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Darwin's Unfinished Symphony: How Food and Culture Made the Human Mind - http://sylnt.us - food-plus-culture-equals-sauerkraut
[15:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Update - Taking a Breather - http://sylnt.us - gasping-for-air
[15:57:32] <FatPhil> ~submit https://boingboing.net
[15:58:49] <FatPhil> or for a less click-baity frame, https://www.eff.org (from that story)
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[16:19:55] <jasassin> you attract more bungholes with sugar than tp?
[16:20:57] <jasassin> -sucros
[16:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Class of Compounds Could Lead to More Effective Painkillers - http://sylnt.us - brains-are-complicated
[16:45:55] <jasassin> ++weed
[16:46:05] <jasassin> ++anything
[16:46:26] <jasassin> IP: (8.8.8.8) Hostname: google-public-dns-a.google.com Country: United States Region: California City: Mountain View Zip Code: 94035 Latitude: 37.3860 Longitude: -122.0838 Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
[16:46:26] <jasassin> !ip 8.8.8.8
[16:47:25] <jasassin> this goddamn price is wrong
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[17:10:39] <Runaway1956> ~submit http://www.dailywire.com
[17:12:50] <Runaway1956> Is it working?
[17:14:57] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.dailywire.com
[17:14:58] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:15:24] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:18:10] <Bytram> Runaway1956: sorry to report, but exec is down atm and will likely remain down until cmn returns from a business trip.
[17:18:42] <Runaway1956> You're not fooling me - cmn is fooling around in Dallas, LOL
[17:19:02] <Runaway1956> he was looking for a drinking partner - uhhh - yesterday I think it was
[17:19:09] <Runaway1956> but thanks Bytram
[17:19:22] <Bytram> =)
[17:19:28] <Runaway1956> ;^)
[17:20:19] <Bytram> https://aws.amazon.com
[17:21:55] <Runaway1956> LOL - "no we weren't hacked or anything, we just screwed up!"
[17:24:08] <Bytram> yup. Can you say "sanity test input values"?
[17:24:28] * Runaway1956 is not familiar with "sanity"
[17:26:49] <Bytram> basically, someone fat-fingered the number of servers to take down... and the system said "Sure!" OOOPS!
[17:27:23] * Runaway1956 is familiar with fat fingers
[17:28:20] * Bytram must admit that he is also familiar with fat fingers, especially on smart phones and tablets. :(
[17:29:26] <Runaway1956> Perhaps senility has begun to set in - I'm doing three things at once, I glanced back at this window, read what I posted and was shocked
[17:29:41] <Runaway1956> luckily, I DID NOT say what I thought I read . . . .
[17:30:01] <Runaway1956> Fek - senility, bad eyesight, distracted IRC'ing - the works
[17:30:50] <Runaway1956> Maybe I go to bed and hope I'm a little less senile tomorrow . . . .
[17:31:09] <Bytram> yup. 'tis a gift of growing older, methinks.
[17:31:09] <Bytram> good luck with that
[17:56:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Attorney General Claims Legal Weed Drives Violent Crime; Statistics be Damned - http://sylnt.us - ideology-vs-scientific-analysis
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[18:08:31] <FatPhil> gday all
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[18:15:33] <mrpg> hi
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[18:19:52] <Bytram> FatPhil: hi there!
[18:31:55] <FatPhil> don't expect any sense out of me this evening, brain's fried after work.
[18:32:36] <Bytram> seems like there is a LOT of that going around.
[18:32:45] <Bytram> most of the tam here is dragging.
[18:32:49] <Bytram> s/ta/tea/
[18:32:49] <sedctl> <Bytram> most of the team here is dragging.
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[19:27:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Soft Tissues of Winged Dinosaur Are Imaged - http://sylnt.us - pigeon-toed,-undergrowed
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[21:07:08] <mrpg> http://www.bbc.com - Cartridges for the Nintendo Switch console taste foul because of a "bittering agent" intended to prevent them from being accidentally swallowed.
[21:08:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Volcanic Outgassing of Hydrogen Could Extend Habitable Zones - http://sylnt.us
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[21:14:37] <mrpg> http://www.bbc.com - Some 120 diners celebrating a baptism at a restaurant in a north-eastern Spanish town all fled the restaurant at once without paying, the owner said.
[21:15:03] <mrpg> tab: more than 2 000 €
[21:22:30] <mrpg> bye
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[21:30:35] <FatPhil> that must have been organised on some social media portal
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[22:36:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humanoid Robots Could "Wear" Tissue Grafts Before Transplantation - http://sylnt.us - pre-wrinkled