#Soylent | Logs for 2017-02-11

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[00:00:19] <chromas> http://www.fox4news.com
[00:01:17] <pinchy> oh jew
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[00:02:43] <cmn32480> prolly placed by a trump hating Democrat
[00:04:10] <Bytram> cmn32480: TheMightyBuzzard: Runaway1956: mechanicjay: To add another data point to the blank screen loading... I ran into the same thing this morning, tried to open a story in a new tab (on my mobile; chrome on android) got a blank page; tried with 4 other stories, all produced blank pages. This was around 11 AM UTC, give or take an hour (or two) I was not really that awake... loaded Ars Technica fine, read some stories there okay, came
[00:04:10] <Bytram> back to SN less than an hour later, and was able to load stories on SN without trouble.
[00:05:04] <cmn32480> buzzard restarted somethign on flourine and the problem resolved itself
[00:05:04] <mechanicjay> Bytram: we were seeing some gnarly perl errors in the logs -- TheMightyBuzzard bounces the webserver and it seems to have cleared up.
[00:05:19] <Bytram> good to know; thanks!
[00:05:20] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[00:05:25] <mechanicjay> curses!
[00:05:39] <Bytram> mechanicjay: that is mostly useful for TTYs
[00:05:45] <Bytram> ;)
[00:05:52] <mechanicjay> boooo
[00:05:56] <Bytram> ROFL!
[00:06:09] <chromas> Need a systemd timer to reboot apache weekly
[00:06:21] <cmn32480> so set your bot to remind us
[00:06:21] <Bytram> #smake chromas
[00:06:21] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a facepalm
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[00:07:41] <mechanicjay> I literally thought you were joking about a systemd timer
[00:07:58] <mechanicjay> those assholes can't have my cron too.
[00:08:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just need to bounce it after we get hit by a sustained 5Mbps attempted dos apparently
[00:08:21] <systemd> You think systemd is a joke?!!!1@2
[00:09:05] <mechanicjay> #fite systemd
[00:09:05] <MrPlow> #fite temporarily restricted to the channel #fite
[00:09:08] <exec> yes, you poor excuse for an init system. now sit down and shut your pie hole
[00:09:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> exec is pretty much an init system by now too
[00:10:03] <Bytram> LOL!
[00:10:10] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:10:12] <exec> Saturday, 11 February 2017 @ 12:10 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[00:10:21] <mechanicjay> ~weather
[00:10:23] <exec> 10Seattle, WA, USA - currently 44°F / 7°C, cloudy, wind S at 18 mph, humidity 78% - Friday partly cloudy (36°F:45°F / 2°C:7°C), Saturday partly cloudy (33°F:48°F / 1°C:9°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (34°F:49°F / 1°C:9°C), Monday partly cloudy (35°F:53°F / 2°C:12°C)
[00:10:33] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[00:10:35] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 2°F, clear, wind W at 10 mph, humidity 55% - Friday clear with periodic clouds (-15°F:8°F), Saturday snow showers (-4°F:10°F), Sunday snow showers (13°F:20°F), Monday snow (10°F:25°F)
[00:10:38] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[00:10:40] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 9°F, mostly cloudy, wind N at 3 mph, humidity 41% - Friday scattered snow showers (6°F:15°F), Saturday snow (20°F:27°F), Sunday rain and snow (27°F:35°F), Monday blizzard (19°F:31°F)
[00:10:41] <cmn32480> amazing how the works, ehh bytram?
[00:10:42] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[00:10:44] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 21°F, partly cloudy, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 36% - Friday snow (16°F:25°F), Saturday snow showers (25°F:36°F), Sunday rain and snow (32°F:37°F), Monday snow (23°F:34°F)
[00:10:56] <Bytram> yep; me is tireder than he thought
[00:11:17] * mechanicjay is done with this day
[00:11:17] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:11:20] <exec> Saturday, 11 February 2017 @ 12:11 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[00:11:29] <exec> I thought you were just ugly....
[00:11:31] * systemd installs CentOS on all SN servers
[00:11:37] <mechanicjay> is only 4:11 local time :(
[00:11:40] <Bytram> only 33 minutes to maximum lunar eclipse
[00:11:47] <cmn32480> mmmmmm
[00:11:59] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[00:12:02] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 36°F, cloudy, wind S at 5 mph, humidity 32% - Friday partly cloudy (35°F:37°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (47°F:63°F), Sunday showers (40°F:51°F), Monday cloudy (32°F:45°F)
[00:12:07] * cmn32480 has discovered "Not your Mom's Apple Pie" from Small Town Brewery
[00:12:47] <Bytram> afk biab dinner
[00:12:59] <mechanicjay> I've got a few bottles of Kilt Lifter from the Pike Brewing Co at home with my name on em.
[00:13:28] <cmn32480> I was pleasantly surprised
[00:13:35] <cmn32480> it really does taste like apple pie
[00:13:39] <mechanicjay> huh
[00:14:19] <cmn32480> is Small Town available near you?
[00:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i think beryllium is already running centos
[00:14:43] <cmn32480> they also have a very good "Not Your Father's Root Beer" and a Vanilla Creme Ale
[00:14:52] <cmn32480> there is 1 oddball
[00:15:05] <cmn32480> the Ginger Ale is kinda yuck
[00:15:40] <mechanicjay> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah but it's centos6 -- centos7 would be put in us in a much better place.
[00:16:04] <cmn32480> the dumpster?
[00:16:14] <mechanicjay> regardless, I stand by ready to rebuild Bery as freeBSD or Gentoo, which ever we decide on.
[00:16:32] <cmn32480> SA LUTE!
[00:16:47] <Bytram> ~define lute
[00:16:48] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03lute: The lute refers to both any plucked string instrument with a fretted neck and a deep round back as well as specifically an instrument from the family of European lutes. Lute and oud both descend from...
[00:16:51] <chromas> arch LD
[00:16:53] <chromas> :D
[00:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i say we mix em up just for good measure
[00:17:18] <Bytram> {free|net|open}bsd ??
[00:17:19] <cmn32480> be sure to go obscure...
[00:17:27] <chromas> BSD userspace on win10 kernel
[00:17:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just have half the stuff being gentoo and half being bsd
[00:17:38] <cmn32480> and run an SELinux shell
[00:17:49] <Bytram> hurd FTW
[00:17:59] <Bytram> ;p)
[00:18:03] <chromas> I hurd dat
[00:18:03] <mechanicjay> openVMS! openVMS!
[00:18:15] <Bytram> vms++ rocks!
[00:18:15] <Bender> karma - vms: 1
[00:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hurd it through the grape vine
[00:18:32] <mechanicjay> how have I never given vms karma!?!?
[00:18:33] <mechanicjay> vms++
[00:18:33] <Bender> karma - vms: 2
[00:18:34] <mechanicjay> vms++
[00:18:35] <Bender> karma - vms: 3
[00:18:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt i heard it through the grape vine
[00:18:37] <mechanicjay> vms++
[00:18:37] <Bender> karma - vms: 4
[00:18:38] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:18:40] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard s/vine/Wine
[00:18:44] <Bytram> it was the most consistent OS (and assembler) I have *ever* seen
[00:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i never got to play with vms
[00:18:55] <cmn32480> we shoudl be based on Alpha
[00:19:02] <cmn32480> you dind't miss much
[00:19:09] <mechanicjay> should I fire my alpha box up and give you guys log ins?
[00:19:16] <Bytram> back in the day, Alpha was a really *hot* machine
[00:19:31] <cmn32480> you stil have an alpha mechanicjay?
[00:19:31] <mechanicjay> Yes, as in you could burn yourself on the heatsink.
[00:19:38] <Bytram> mechanicjay: better crank up the A/C first
[00:19:39] <mechanicjay> yup
[00:19:49] <cmn32480> damn..
[00:19:54] <mechanicjay> just a small workstation, only chews up 275watts or so.
[00:20:01] <Bytram> not so bad
[00:20:12] <cmn32480> I have 1 customer still running a Vax
[00:20:16] <Bytram> was the Alpha CISC or RISC?
[00:20:20] <mechanicjay> nice
[00:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really lookin forward to risc-v
[00:20:55] <mechanicjay> RISC
[00:21:02] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/c-v/que/
[00:21:02] <sedctl> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really lookin forward to risque
[00:21:04] <exec> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really lookin forward to risque
[00:21:19] <cmn32480> road troip to Philly!
[00:21:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i almost bought a vax back when ebay was new. i would have too if i hadn't noticed the shipping cost.
[00:21:29] <mechanicjay> Was also full 64-bit in '92 :)
[00:21:44] <cmn32480> 7 gerzillion dollars
[00:22:03] <chromas> Maybe you could drive over and pick it up for cheaper
[00:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically. it weighted more than the same volume of cinder blocks
[00:22:10] <cmn32480> likely you could have
[00:22:35] <cmn32480> I remember the shipping cost for the last AS400 we bought before I left the roofing supply place
[00:22:43] <mechanicjay> Yeah, the guys I know just rent box trucks for VAX/PDP rescues at this point
[00:23:13] <cmn32480> it was like 1.5% of the cost of the unit...
[00:23:25] <Bytram> and now, you could prolly run an Alpha emulator on an ARM chip
[00:23:25] <cmn32480> the 400 was like $200k
[00:23:54] * cmn32480 waxes nostalgic
[00:24:22] * Bytram waxes his skiis
[00:24:32] * cmn32480 realizes the wife will be home soon and sends Nostalgic home
[00:24:35] * TheMightyBuzzard waxes his butt
[00:25:01] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/w//
[00:25:01] <sedctl> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> axes his butt
[00:25:03] <exec> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> axes his butt
[00:25:09] <cmn32480> makes it less prickly for whatever the women wanna do to it
[00:25:20] <sedctl> ~sed off
[00:25:21] <exec> sed disabled for 10#Soylent
[00:25:29] <cmn32480> lol
[00:25:32] <mechanicjay> alpha emulation kinda sucks, even on a multi-gigahertz x86-64
[00:25:40] <exec> ~sed on
[00:25:40] <exec> sed enabled for 10#soylent
[00:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, should put that in sedctl's startup script
[00:26:07] <exec> ~sed off
[00:26:07] <exec> sed disabled for 10#soylent
[00:26:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, you should leave him running. half the time he ain't here no more.
[00:26:58] <chromas> That's usually when I'm dicking with my internets
[00:27:00] * TheMightyBuzzard steals his source and slaps a copy on beryllium
[00:27:09] <chromas> go for it
[00:27:16] <cmn32480> DON"T DO IT
[00:27:24] <cmn32480> it's a TRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP
[00:27:50] <cmn32480> and every one of you just hear admiral Ackbar say it
[00:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't mesa 17 sposed to be out today?
[00:28:00] <chromas> jar jar?
[00:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> java -jar -jar episode1.jar
[00:29:26] * mechanicjay is wearing his Akbar "It's a Trap" t-shirt today
[00:30:16] <chromas> Allahu
[00:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> aloha to you too
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[02:09:05] <jasassin> you guys are a buncha fuckin weirdos
[02:09:37] <jasassin> no wonder why i gravitated here
[02:09:59] <jasassin> and if you dont like it... then hey
[02:10:42] <jasassin> #SoylentNws
[02:10:57] <jasassin> #SolylentJewz
[02:11:28] <jasassin> no its too early to make fun of thousands of people dying
[02:11:45] <jasassin> lets do something about hitler!
[02:11:47] <jasassin> oh wait
[02:11:48] <jasassin> no
[02:12:11] <jasassin> ok how about hill dog! no wait i might explode in a plane
[02:12:12] <jasassin> no
[02:12:39] <jasassin> ok you ME fuckers
[02:12:45] <jasassin> how do you like being powned?
[02:12:51] <jasassin> i found the key to all the systems
[02:13:18] <jasassin> its a peice of software called djack
[02:13:40] <jasassin> it just hacks into everythign just give it an ip and it gives options
[02:15:02] <jasassin> making this up for a book im writing
[02:15:11] <jasassin> does it seem plausible?
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[02:16:41] <jasassin> is anyone there
[02:16:45] <jasassin> is anyone in the world there?
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[02:17:22] <jasassin> time to kill zombies then
[02:17:29] <jasassin> after i rewrite some code
[02:17:34] <jasassin> then i kill zombies
[02:17:59] <jasassin> i'd like to hack the server cert download into hexchat
[02:18:03] <jasassin> but im gonna kill zombies
[02:18:05] <jasassin> its more fun
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[03:21:44] <jasassin> wow
[03:21:54] <jasassin> i think i got dickslapped crazy by those zombies
[03:22:10] <jasassin> i dont think we have enough guns and ammo
[03:22:11] <jasassin> shit
[03:22:21] <jasassin> i dont think my 22 ruger with 10 rounds is gonna cut it
[03:22:39] <jasassin> i need to go john wick on this zombies
[03:22:48] <jasassin> the guns they give you aren't good enough
[03:22:57] <jasassin> grrrrrrrr
[03:23:25] <Deucalion> .op
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[03:23:35] <jasassin> deucebag!
[03:24:08] <jasassin> how old are you?
[03:24:18] <jasassin> im over 40
[03:25:18] <jasassin> it sucks when you get old man
[03:25:34] <jasassin> Deucalion: you will find out
[03:25:58] <jasassin> your back, then your knee or vice versa
[03:26:08] <jasassin> ohhhhh
[03:26:16] <jasassin> then you are just all gimped up
[03:26:29] <jasassin> been on a planet with not enough gravity to go
[03:26:35] <jasassin> super sand vagina
[03:26:44] <jasassin> golden hair
[03:27:53] <jasassin> you sould read the book "ethics" by plato or aristotale or whate the fuck ever
[03:28:08] <jasassin> it would make you wonder what happyness really is
[03:49:56] <Deucalion> jasassin, I'm over 40 also. That's not exactly old per se. Your point is?
[03:51:11] <Deucalion> aristotale? was he related to the aristocats? Going by the name, I guess he had a story to tell :D
[04:00:00] <jasassin> thats a good question
[04:00:03] <jasassin> but the point is
[04:00:09] <jasassin> the question of what is happyness
[04:00:36] <jasassin> its the basics of ethics you should read it
[04:00:38] <jasassin> its free
[04:02:03] <jasassin> my point is in my mind the though of happyness... what makes me happy... changes over time
[04:02:11] <jasassin> so its strange
[04:02:19] <jasassin> you like something
[04:02:24] <Deucalion> what is happiness? entirely subjective is it not? I don't see how all perspectives on that question could be covered in one text and be universal.
[04:02:25] <jasassin> then all of a sudden you are sick of it
[04:02:40] <jasassin> its about 400 pages
[04:02:59] <jasassin> jesus its all about ethics and what you do to people and does that make you happy what is happy
[04:03:02] <jasassin> its fucked up
[04:03:09] <jasassin> and this is that old greek asshole
[04:03:46] <jasassin> it really blows my mind
[04:04:11] <Deucalion> the old greek asshole aristotale?
[04:04:25] <jasassin> i've never read any of the greek philosoophereresheshsheshs snannaen super sand lesbians
[04:04:51] <Deucalion> perhaps you should
[04:04:54] <jasassin> meeeeeeehrrrrrrg
[04:05:18] <jasassin> that old asshole
[04:05:25] <jasassin> he was probably tripping out
[04:06:00] <jasassin> fucking socrates ate way to many shrooms and everybody just stood around and watched him freak out because they had nothing better to do
[04:06:15] <Deucalion> You're not the first person on the planet to consider the concept of "what is happy" philosopher or not.
[04:06:30] <jasassin> i dont like fishing
[04:06:52] * jasassin gives the finger to TheMightyBuzzard
[04:07:12] <jasassin> my favorite thing
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[04:07:27] <jasassin> i like to help people
[04:07:35] <jasassin> as i move along
[04:07:39] <jasassin> i like to help people
[04:07:59] <jasassin> i wish the'd all just get along
[04:08:01] <Deucalion> Given the dating of those texts, probably ergot is more to blame than mushrooms for vivid stuff. But the the Ancient Greek philosophies are not exactly overflowing with vivid descriptions of hell and brimstone.
[04:08:21] <jasassin> hmmmmm
[04:08:36] <jasassin> i do not know that much about the time period
[04:08:37] <jasassin> hmmmm
[04:08:45] <jasassin> very interesting i'll have too look that up
[04:08:52] <jasassin> i think they probably di9d
[04:08:55] <jasassin> because
[04:09:33] <jasassin> even 1000 years ago the egyptians did the brain surgery to remove tumors! opening the skulll blah blah
[04:09:35] <jasassin> wwow
[04:09:41] <jasassin> 1000 years ago
[04:09:45] <jasassin> they did barin surgery
[04:09:53] <jasassin> that is just the most mind blowing thing i have ever heard of
[04:10:04] <jasassin> brain
[04:10:07] <jasassin> brain
[04:10:16] <jasassin> test
[04:10:29] <jasassin> the incoming message from jasassin was 'debug 32 42'
[04:10:29] <jasassin> debug 32 42
[04:10:47] <Deucalion> ergot ties in with the widening arable cropping of wheat and the like that is prone to that mould infection. The mass of religious "visions" also ties in nicely to the timeline.
[04:11:57] <Deucalion> Know your history or be doomed to repeat it.
[04:12:10] <jasassin> i know
[04:12:16] <jasassin> i always slept through history class
[04:12:21] <jasassin> it was my first class
[04:12:26] <jasassin> and i was sooo fuckign tired
[04:12:49] <Deucalion> No excuse for not opening a book in later life
[04:13:07] <jasassin> fuck you asshole i watch antiques road show
[04:13:12] <jasassin> i probably knwo more than you
[04:13:19] <jasassin> jesus i watch that with my 83 year old mom
[04:13:21] <jasassin> all the time
[04:13:23] <jasassin> she loves it
[04:13:32] <jasassin> i just smoke some pot
[04:13:42] <jasassin> and watch some antuiqes road show
[04:13:45] <jasassin> hell yeah
[04:13:47] <jasassin> bitch
[04:14:01] <jasassin> and i just call bullshit on allot of these prices these guys say
[04:14:03] <jasassin> what a joke
[04:14:05] <jasassin> yeah right
[04:14:13] <jasassin> sorry bitch, you aint gonna get that outta that
[04:14:43] <jasassin> im sure theres a ferrengi rule... its worth what someones willing to pay for it
[04:14:59] <Deucalion> .quiet jasassin
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[04:15:27] <Deucalion> .unquiet jasassin
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[05:44:41] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 5°C/41°F, 9:44 pm GMT-8, Friday, 10 February 2017
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[08:28:11] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/39°F, 9:28 am GMT+1, Saturday, 11 February 2017
[09:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Explosion at Nuclear Power Plant in France - http://sylnt.us - don't-panic
[10:34:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:34:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3193
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[11:38:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Specifications for an Intel 3D XPoint SSD Leak - http://sylnt.us - Good,-Fast,-and...-what-IS-the-price?
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[12:09:41] <janrinok> I saw what you did there ...
[12:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm sneaky like that. but so is chromas.
[12:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, just found a major flaw in my new fite logic
[12:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coding with a head cold is not easy.
[12:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> and there was no flaw. i just thought there was because i have a head cold.
[12:27:25] <janrinok> but chromas will have seen what you have done - and will surely counter it?
[12:28:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh probably but i'm resetting everyone's stats when i finish this new version anyway.
[12:30:05] <janrinok> remember 'Playing fair has it's own reward - but winning is always better!'
[12:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> also going to add npc fighting in i think so we don't end up with a bunch of folks stuck in the level basement with nobody to fight
[12:33:15] <janrinok> time for a nap
[12:40:42] <paulej72> moring all
[12:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[12:42:11] <paulej72> I will be attempting to fix threhsold today.
[12:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool. still going with just removing one and making the other always show what breakthrough is showing now?
[12:43:53] <paulej72> yep, hopefully it will not piss off too many people
[12:44:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh it'll annoy some folks but it shouldn't be too bad.
[12:46:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't yoink the column out of the db though, just don't show it in prefs or use it in code. we may want to come back and use it later.
[12:46:37] <paulej72> shit grepping threshold is bring back a shitload of results
[12:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah. noticed that the other day.
[12:46:56] <paulej72> yeah was not planning on full nuke
[12:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i say we go with something like "this is a temporary situation that we'll hopefully be able to fix soon but it was holding up the site update" for explanation on removing breakthrough
[12:49:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i would like to have the functionality back. i just ain't gonna be able to work on it for like a week now that i caught a cold and i want this bloody thing rolled out.
[12:50:40] <paulej72> But I don't want it back.
[12:51:33] <paulej72> If we are doing this it should be because the current method sucks ass and it has no berring on how we pull comments currently
[12:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, it's purely cosmetic. no way of displaying comments is going to have a bearing on how we pull them.
[12:53:02] <paulej72> the old method comments below threshold were not sent to the user, now we send them so they can easily be read if needed. I think we just need to have the single contol with having it contol the collapsed state
[12:53:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> never did really since the insano code pulled every last comment for the story before nuking the ones it didn't want.
[12:54:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, if it's only minimizing the single comment for score there's no reason to have breakthrough.
[12:54:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> it used to minimize the entire thread
[12:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i kinda dug but if we're not going that way now we're not going that way now.
[12:55:12] <paulej72> we never had a control that minimixed an entire thread by default
[12:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> you sure? i coulda swore that was what threshold did. or rather didn't display it.
[12:56:23] <paulej72> threshold would removed the low comment and reparent the childeren to grandparent
[12:56:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[12:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's dumb
[12:56:57] <paulej72> that is how it worked
[12:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess we can remove the "reparent" option in the prefs as well
[12:57:35] <paulej72> that is why there was a shitton of reparent code
[12:58:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, might try greping $user->{threshold}
[12:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i think you put all of the threshold logic into css
[12:58:49] <paulej72> lets see how many have reparent turned on
[12:59:03] <paulej72> because I bet many did
[12:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never did
[13:01:40] <paulej72> hrmm I can't seem to connect ti mysql on hydrogen
[13:01:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> is it running?
[13:02:35] <paulej72> yes, but I think NCommander's update may have broken somthing
[13:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[13:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on
[13:04:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's prolly looking in the wrong place for the socket
[13:05:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is Owning a Car Still Key for a Date? - http://sylnt.us - what-does-betteridge-say?
[13:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's what it is.
[13:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> /opt/mysql-cluster-gpl-7.5.5-linux-glibc2.5-x86_64/bin/mysql --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock works
[13:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> hydrogen never had a mysql client installed in /usr/bin/
[13:10:05] <paulej72> reparent on/off 6437/56
[13:11:47] <paulej72> so a vast majority only see low threshold comments blocked but see the children if they are at or above thresh
[13:12:58] <paulej72> so I based my new system on the fact that I forgot that reparenting was an option.
[13:13:20] <paulej72> but for most that is how the work it
[13:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[13:30:16] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:30:17] * exec presumably shoves an animated gif of silk underwear in TheMightyBuzzard
[13:30:35] -!- stderr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[13:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[13:30:39] * exec readily integrates a quart of hypergolic buttsauce with cmn32480
[13:30:48] * TheMightyBuzzard wins
[13:30:49] <cmn32480> damnit.. I missed my firewall reboot window
[13:31:02] <cmn32480> without question
[13:31:19] <cmn32480> ~define hypergolic buttsauce
[13:31:20] <exec> [local] hypergolic buttsauce: what anything on a menu with over three out of five peppers will become in a few hours
[13:31:37] <cmn32480> that always makes me smile
[13:32:10] * cmn32480 staggers off for coffee
[13:33:39] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[13:33:41] * exec mistakenly waves a spoon of jihads at cmn32480
[13:33:45] <janrinok> ~gday paulej72
[13:33:47] * exec overratedly spews a fat12 volume of iced tea on paulej72
[13:34:56] * cmn32480 staggers back in with coffee++
[13:34:59] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:34:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3194
[13:35:03] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[13:35:05] * exec excoriatingly pesters a jar jar of various oscillators with janrinok
[13:35:16] <cmn32480> you are on early
[13:37:32] <janrinok> I was on even earlier - been doing some programming today
[13:37:45] <cmn32480> it's saturday...
[13:37:53] <cmn32480> brain activity is to be kept to a minimum
[13:38:03] <janrinok> had a good chat with Fnord666 this am on the other channel - it was about 0430 his time!
[13:38:17] <janrinok> this is all for fun and pleasure
[13:38:20] <cmn32480> given the option, I woudl be on the couch, with a touch of drool rolling down my chin
[13:38:40] * TheMightyBuzzard gives up trying to understand his bot and attempts to build an optimized version of firefox instead
[13:39:03] <cmn32480> instead I am here trying to wake up after sleeping poorly and making sure that this upgrade don't go pear shaped
[13:39:23] <janrinok> I've just woken up from my post-lunch nap, wiped of the drool, and sat down at the computer again
[13:39:27] * cmn32480 suggests he start w/ somethign simple like Bender
[13:39:53] <cmn32480> sounds like a fine way to spend the day
[13:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bender
[13:40:00] * MrPlow smakes Bender upside the head with a vibrating buttplug
[13:40:01] <cmn32480> things are quiet then, I assume?
[13:40:07] <janrinok> if someone will point me to the code for Bender I will have a look at it - but as no-one seems to be able to do so then I can't do very much with it
[13:40:23] * cmn32480 points at TheMightyBuzzard
[13:40:34] <janrinok> he is beyond fixing
[13:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> sec...
[13:40:41] <cmn32480> we know..
[13:41:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, you got a shell account?
[13:41:04] <cmn32480> but it is fun to tweak and twiddle to see if we can make him cartwheel around the yard in his skivvies
[13:41:28] <janrinok> a what? which I guess means 'probably not'
[13:41:43] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:42:22] * janrinok isn't given enough power to break things; this is probably both wise and intentional
[13:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't show ya his code then. unless i just zip it up and email you a copy of his entire dir.
[13:42:45] <janrinok> that's better than nothing
[13:43:02] <janrinok> a description of the 'fault' might be useful too
[13:43:12] * cmn32480 shurgs
[13:43:16] <cmn32480> I think he is working fine
[13:43:42] <cmn32480> there is that nasty bug in the karma system
[13:43:48] <cmn32480> coffee--
[13:43:48] <Bender> karma - tea: 572
[13:44:11] <janrinok> so, you would like me to fix some software that you don't know how it is not doing what it is you want it to do, while having the code on a non-running environment...? Piece of piss
[13:45:12] <cmn32480> i would LIKE for it to transfer $1,illion dollars to my bank account...
[13:45:21] <cmn32480> but I think that might be beyond your skillset
[13:45:36] <janrinok> as long as your bank code is the same as mine that 'might' be doable
[13:45:49] <cmn32480> ok
[13:45:55] <cmn32480> my account code is 1
[13:45:56] <cmn32480> 2
[13:45:57] <cmn32480> 3
[13:45:58] <cmn32480> 4
[13:45:59] <cmn32480> 5
[13:46:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't want him fixed. thought cmn32480 had something he wanted fixed on him.
[13:46:09] <janrinok> stop! that's my suitcase code!
[13:46:17] <cmn32480> damnit
[13:46:23] <cmn32480> they told me it was uber secure
[13:46:35] <janrinok> it was until you shouted it out to the world
[13:46:47] <cmn32480> it's on separate lines...
[13:46:50] <cmn32480> nobody will notice
[13:47:03] * janrinok will have to think of another one - er, 9, 8 , 7, 6
[13:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> and he didn't shout. you gotta hit shift to shout. or caps lock. caps lock is like cruise control for awesome.
[13:47:37] <cmn32480> coffee is like the force... after the first couple sips... you can feel it moving through you...
[13:48:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> I will not brew Decaf. Decaf is the mind-killer. decaf brings the little sleep that leads to total oblivion. I will embrace the caffeine. I will brew my beverages and let them flow through me, and when they are gone, I will remain...alert.
[13:48:17] <janrinok> well, as only a few million people might have seen it, I'll probably stick with it for a while longer then
[13:48:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> a few million? here?
[13:48:51] <janrinok> it's possible - highly bloody unlikely, but possible
[13:49:08] <janrinok> after all, we all ended up here
[13:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably more web crawler bots than humans read what goes on in here
[13:49:52] <cmn32480> that's likely
[13:49:58] <janrinok> they must be very bored bots
[13:50:35] <cmn32480> damnit... Beth is already in the system...
[13:50:41] <cmn32480> oh well...
[13:50:49] <cmn32480> so much for fixing the VPN today
[13:50:59] * cmn32480 decides to poke the Exchagne server instead
[13:51:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should learn how to add users to hesiod
[13:51:28] <cmn32480> wasn't that a cartoon in the 90's?
[13:51:38] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:51:43] <janrinok> I don't know the lady concerned, but I would have been happier if you had chosen to poke Beth instead - it sounds more normal
[13:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was a teenager in the 90s. which is to say stoned and/or drunk
[13:52:06] <cmn32480> I've been working with her for 8 years and never met her
[13:52:14] <janrinok> you haven't changed much have you?
[13:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure, i don't get stoned any more.
[13:52:26] <cmn32480> I don't THINK he gets stoned anymore
[13:52:32] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[13:52:52] * janrinok thought he was always stoned - he is always hungry, which is damning enough
[13:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> only for the souls of hippies
[13:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, my cpu is earning its money today. making it do an -O3 -march=native -mtune=native pgo build of firefox
[13:55:41] <janrinok> I was born into the world of rationing after the war - in fact, sugar rationing ended after I was born in the UK
[13:56:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> gak
[13:56:09] * cmn32480 does that math...
[13:56:15] <janrinok> 1952
[13:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> only rationing we had over here was gas
[13:56:19] <cmn32480> that makes janrinok a gerzillion years old!
[13:56:25] <janrinok> plus or minus
[13:56:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> almost retirement age anyway
[13:56:47] * cmn32480 was born after the last rationing in the US
[13:56:59] <janrinok> condom rationing?
[13:57:14] <cmn32480> obviously I am a byproduct of the lack of that
[13:57:43] <janrinok> I thought you were boasting how you beat the odds
[13:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> we should have beer rationing. and require people to consume their entire ration every day.
[13:58:15] <cmn32480> this society woudl be a lot happier, I think
[13:58:26] <janrinok> I'll vote for that - get rid of T and I will be there in a flash
[13:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep and i'd almost never get stuck in traffic
[13:58:51] <cmn32480> what's that? like 6 cars on the same road where you live?
[13:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh he'll be gone in another seven years n change
[13:59:14] <janrinok> A Breton traffic jam is 2 cars following a farmer in his tractor
[13:59:33] <cmn32480> lol
[13:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i HATE that shit. way worse than city traffic.
[13:59:53] <janrinok> a tractor pulling shit is worse than most things
[14:00:15] <cmn32480> 'specially if it is leaking the juice behind it
[14:00:34] <janrinok> farmers' after-shave
[14:01:01] <janrinok> they prolly sell it locally to the tourists
[14:01:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy fek, bender is 106MB compressed.
[14:01:51] <janrinok> I'll install another 8GB so that I can read it ...
[14:01:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> using goddamned xz even
[14:02:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, be easier to just learn hesiod and give you a shell account
[14:02:37] <janrinok> I'm game, you foolish soul, you...
[14:04:19] <cmn32480> what were we trying to fix again?
[14:04:38] <janrinok> ... the mess that I will leave behind me :)
[14:04:47] * cmn32480 passes the toilet paper
[14:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno that anything's broken. except his damned logs take up 600MB
[14:05:02] <cmn32480> that's prolly the karma txt file
[14:06:03] * janrinok starts planning: if user==cmn32480: karma = -karma
[14:06:19] <cmn32480> Cmn32480++
[14:06:19] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 77
[14:07:21] * cmn32480 notes we are prolly backing them up
[14:07:35] <cmn32480> thusly contributing to the Oxygen issues
[14:07:42] * janrinok is trying to imagine what 106MB of python could possibly be doing. Person Of Interest used less code than that!
[14:08:06] <cmn32480> HEY! that is 106MB of COMPRESSED python!
[14:08:30] <janrinok> if line == odd: delete line
[14:08:47] <janrinok> there, solved that problem
[14:08:50] <cmn32480> that shoudl cut it down nicely
[14:09:01] <janrinok> run it 4 or 5 times to make surfe
[14:09:06] <janrinok> sure*
[14:09:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i was gonna send his entire directory which included the logs
[14:09:09] <cmn32480> most definetly
[14:09:47] * cmn32480 wishes he could remember where he was in the exchange upgrade when he stopped 4 months ago
[14:10:13] * cmn32480 wonders why we are saving Bender's solid excrement...
[14:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> posterity
[14:10:44] * TheMightyBuzzard is currently compressing all the old logs
[14:10:46] <janrinok> you refer to your programmer's notebook and it will tell you the last thing that you bothered to write in it - which will be dated 2009
[14:10:47] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard: s/posterity/posteriority/
[14:11:12] * cmn32480 blinks
[14:11:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> notes? you make notes?
[14:11:20] <cmn32480> notes?
[14:11:27] <cmn32480> what are those?
[14:11:29] <janrinok> a rebel, that's me!
[14:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just add a comment saying #HERE when i'm done for the day.
[14:12:05] <janrinok> then I doodle in it, and fill in all the o, d, p and any other enclosing characters
[14:12:05] <cmn32480> do you take them out at the end of the day?
[14:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if i remember
[14:12:54] * cmn32480 is forgettign somethign... but he has no idea what
[14:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> occasionally i'll also leave a comment like #TODO: stuff or #TODO: make this work
[14:13:08] <janrinok> cmn, that's what forgetting means
[14:13:20] <cmn32480> you and crutchy went to the same programming school....
[14:13:35] <cmn32480> exec's scripts are riddled with that stuff
[14:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[14:13:43] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 311
[14:14:02] <janrinok> I'll just need to read the software spec for Bender, and look at the unit tests, and then ....
[14:14:24] <cmn32480> fall over laughing because none of that actually exists?
[14:14:41] <janrinok> prolly consult with someone in QA and whoever past the existing code for release
[14:14:54] * cmn32480 points at bytram
[14:15:01] <janrinok> cross that bit out then
[14:15:17] <cmn32480> good plan
[14:16:08] * cmn32480 vaguely remembers being in part 3 of this step by step
[14:16:12] <janrinok> set some time for customer input, and have a chat with a genuine user (not always the same as the customer), shouldn't take more than 12 months at most
[14:16:48] <cmn32480> and now you have to pad the estimate to give time for toher projects taht come along
[14:17:21] <cmn32480> so likely closer to 18 months
[14:17:22] <janrinok> that's marketing - I don't deal with filthy lucre. I just expect my usual senior programmer's pay
[14:17:33] <cmn32480> oh no
[14:17:46] <janrinok> same as my editor's pay I guess
[14:17:49] <cmn32480> you are still a senior editor, this is just a tryout to become a jr. developer
[14:18:13] <janrinok> I'll be leading a programming team on Bender, that is a senior P role any day
[14:19:12] <janrinok> failing that, I'll poke it with a long stick, declare it dead, and refuse to touch it again
[14:19:38] <janrinok> or suggest we rewrite it in Haskell
[14:20:10] <janrinok> time for Tea!
[14:20:23] -!- stderr [stderr!~pohol@GetOffMyLawn/stderr] has joined #Soylent
[14:21:52] -!- stderr has quit [Client Quit]
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[14:35:05] <janrinok> tea++
[14:35:05] <Bender> karma - tea: 573
[14:35:12] <cmn32480> coffee++
[14:35:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3195
[14:35:34] * janrinok must remember to change karma setting to double points for tea
[14:36:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pale Moon 27.1 Released With Major Compatibility Improvements - http://sylnt.us - mozilla-killa
[14:36:31] * cmn32480 suggest he put that in his programmers notebook
[14:37:45] * cmn32480 debates breakfast
[14:37:59] * cmn32480 loses the argument
[14:39:10] * janrinok thinks that cmn should know that such a change should be reflected in the software spec, not in a programmer's notebook
[14:42:23] <janrinok> cmn32480, are you not out with the scouts or kids this weekend, and how did your walk go last week, Did the ankle cause any problems?
[14:42:25] <cmn32480> why would I know that?
[14:42:45] <cmn32480> no I'm house bound this weekend for the accounting system upgrade
[14:42:53] <cmn32480> whcih is far better than being stuck in the office for it
[14:42:56] <janrinok> that's a good excuse...
[14:43:10] <cmn32480> the ankle didn't give any trouble
[14:43:33] <janrinok> good, glad to hear it. So you're ready to go and make a mess of it again with the Scouts?
[14:43:38] <cmn32480> other than the standard "f**k off" i get from it every morning
[14:43:49] <cmn32480> pretty much, yeah
[14:45:11] <cmn32480> all in all, I'm pretty happy wiht the way it has healed
[14:45:21] <cmn32480> 4 months to being back to nearly 100% isn't bad
[14:47:29] <janrinok> nope, but take it easy for a while longer - the next time will take longer to heal
[14:47:48] * cmn32480 needs to add a third monitor to the desktop at home
[14:48:01] <cmn32480> i know.. I'm being careful
[14:48:35] <janrinok> how big (resolution-wise) are your existing monitors?
[14:48:37] <paulej72> garlic sweat
[14:48:53] <cmn32480> 1920x1080
[14:48:57] <janrinok> potato urine
[14:49:12] <paulej72> 1920X1200 is much better
[14:49:25] <paulej72> 24" is the way to go
[14:50:45] <janrinok> at my age, that would probably let me display a full sentence on the screen at once ...
[14:50:46] <paulej72> I have two at work and one at home.
[14:51:26] <paulej72> I only have one at home because I use a laptop and I use its screen as the second monitor
[14:53:14] <janrinok> mine are a lowly 1680x1050
[14:54:07] <cmn32480> the monitors are 24"
[14:54:16] * cmn32480 checks to see if he can raise the resolution
[14:54:29] <cmn32480> nope
[14:54:50] <paulej72> cheap ass tv panels used in monitors should be outlawed
[14:55:47] <cmn32480> I need the third monitor for IRC... so I can have a server up in one screen, the instructions up in a second screen, and IRC to waste time on in the third screen
[14:56:19] <paulej72> Get a tablet and use that :)
[14:56:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1920x1080 and a 1280x1024 beside it here
[14:56:24] <cmn32480> I have a Samsung at the office that does like 2356x??? in a 23" monitor
[14:56:59] <cmn32480> but I have 3 at the office. 2x27" and 1x23"
[14:57:04] <paulej72> that is too high a resolution for a 23
[14:57:32] <cmn32480> works ok for certain things
[14:57:40] <paulej72> once Windoes does proper high dpi that will not be an issue
[14:58:02] <janrinok> I had a sun monitor with a res of 24xx x 19xx or something, but it was a CRT and more use as a room heater.
[14:58:30] <janrinok> good for graphics but crap for text
[14:58:41] <cmn32480> i use it primarily for IRC, print job monitoring
[14:58:53] <paulej72> shits did not write the leagacy gui elements to use high dpi when they added it so you get broken shit all over the place
[14:59:27] <janrinok> I could barely lift it into the car when it came to get rid of it
[14:59:52] <cmn32480> for hilarity's sake.. I have people with 2x 27in" monitors who use the screen magnification function and have it set for 150%
[15:00:46] <cmn32480> I ask why don't you get new reading glasses.. it's be far less expensive than us providing you with 27" monitors
[15:02:14] <cmn32480> dang it
[15:02:32] <cmn32480> graphics card has 4 more HDMI ports... but I don't ahve anyhtign that'll work with those here
[15:02:34] <paulej72> because reading glasses dont work at computer monitor distances
[15:03:07] <cmn32480> as close as these people hold their heads to the screens, they would
[15:04:31] <cmn32480> the CFO didn't like it when I told him he needed to get his prescription checked.
[15:04:53] <cmn32480> then he did it... and mumbled somethign abotu me being right
[15:06:35] * cmn32480 cries just a little every time he logs into the new web based exchange administratice Center
[15:07:39] <paulej72> cataracts can cause the same issues
[15:08:11] <cmn32480> I assumed that the CFO's optometrist checked for that... I'm really not qualified
[15:08:58] <cmn32480> my Mom had both eyes done for cataracts I remember the symptoms...
[15:09:28] <cmn32480> she is much happier without them
[15:11:21] <paulej72> my dad is getting his fixed soonish
[15:11:50] <paulej72> damnit Meatloaf is palying and I hate 99.999% of his songs
[15:12:01] <paulej72> so damn repetitive
[15:14:46] <cmn32480> but tasty if made correctly
[15:16:43] <paulej72> I think I might catch something if I ate some Meatloaf
[15:22:23] <paulej72> OK single Threshold control is now up on dev. Please comment.
[15:24:21] <cmn32480> what are we looking for?
[15:29:59] <janrinok> I've got no idea
[15:30:25] <janrinok> brb - nurse
[15:34:31] * cmn32480 hopes it is a naughty naughty nurse
[15:34:46] <cmn32480> paulej72 - what should we be lokoing for?
[15:35:13] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to look
[15:35:14] <paulej72> when viewing comments there is only one contol threshold not the old thrshold/breakthrough
[15:36:12] <paulej72> to only controls whether a comment is collapsed or not. We no long let you not load a comment
[15:36:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, nailed it
[15:36:22] <cmn32480> yes
[15:36:25] <cmn32480> that is correct
[15:36:41] * cmn32480 had to compare to the current site to see what you unbroke
[15:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> works good in flat as well
[15:37:59] <paulej72> I just need to clean up the unused templates just in case and do some testing with the prefs
[15:38:21] * cmn32480 rubs his hands in glee...
[15:38:30] <cmn32480> I ahve 10000 moderation points on dev
[15:38:38] <cmn32480> you are all TROLLS!
[15:38:38] <paulej72> bohemian_rhapsody++
[15:38:38] <Bender> karma - bohemian_rhapsody: 1
[15:41:01] * cmn32480 marks the entire DB as spam
[15:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh baby... building your own firefox binary is teh shat
[15:47:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> no more shitty gtk3 scroll bar!
[15:47:18] <paulej72> firebuzzard
[15:48:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing one more build with -O3 instead of the default -Os
[15:48:53] <cmn32480> ~buzzkill
[15:48:55] <exec> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[15:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i think we should give Bytram one day to poke at that thing then roll it out tomorrow if you got the time.
[15:49:24] <paulej72> could happen
[15:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should be around. no fishing till march.
[15:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[15:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[15:50:56] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 312
[16:16:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brazilian Peppertree Extract Disrupts MRSA Bacteria - http://sylnt.us - spicy-science
[17:25:31] <cmn32480> #smake windows
[17:25:31] * MrPlow smakes windows upside the head with great responsibility
[17:26:59] <cmn32480> I hate nuke and pave on Windows... takes forEVER
[17:37:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No Data Manipulation at NOAA - http://sylnt.us - the-truth-shall-prevail
[18:50:32] <cmn32480> #smake windows update for being a piece of shit
[18:50:32] * MrPlow smakes windows update for being a piece of shit upside the head with a bag of LEDs
[18:51:02] <chromas> Don't nuke and pave windows, system restore fixes that all now
[18:51:15] <chromas> from the wink dept
[18:51:52] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[18:51:52] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with an Alzheimer's Cock
[18:52:00] <chromas> Tasty
[18:52:23] <chromas> clock sauce
[18:55:26] <cmn32480> lol
[18:58:33] <cmn32480> only 100 more updates to go....
[18:58:56] <chromas> That's what you think
[18:59:12] <chromas> Three hours later, "Some updates failed to install"
[18:59:13] <cmn32480> in this round....
[18:59:28] * cmn32480 cringes at that thought
[18:59:39] <cmn32480> you, sir, are a fucker. now it's gonna ha[[en
[18:59:53] <chromas> then you reboot over and over, each time only some of the remaining ones install
[19:00:14] <chromas> then you go to check for updates, and it says "checking" for three days, then there's 175 more updates
[19:01:01] * cmn32480 starts to cry... cuz he knows chromas is right
[19:01:31] <cmn32480> 90 of 188
[19:01:34] <cmn32480> ugh....
[19:01:46] <chromas> is that 7?
[19:02:48] <cmn32480> 2012 R2
[19:03:13] <chromas> I recall there was some sort of bug in one of the windows updates versions that would make it "check for updates" for hours to days and also consume all the ram. Manually installing one of the updates would fix it
[19:03:54] <cmn32480> thankfully that was several versions ago... I think it was on XP
[19:04:44] <chromas> and 7
[19:05:31] <chromas> I ran into that a few times 'cause my totally legitimate copy had no updates on the disc
[19:05:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Helium Bonds With Sodium at a High Pressure - http://sylnt.us - what-do-you-*call*-NaHe2...-sodium-diheliunate?
[19:06:02] <chromas> Now I just install it then get the free upgrade to 10. I'm a monster
[19:06:40] * cmn32480 laughs in a little fear
[19:09:11] <cmn32480> 97 of 188
[19:09:14] <cmn32480> <sigh
[19:09:51] <chromas> Watch porn while you wait
[19:10:00] <chromas> or hack on exec maybe :)
[19:10:01] <cmn32480> i have kids around
[19:10:37] <cmn32480> I'm watching Star Trek instead
[19:11:26] <chromas> Which'n?
[19:11:30] <cmn32480> TNG
[19:13:16] <cmn32480> currrently late in Season 5, I think
[19:13:27] <cmn32480> 100 of 188
[19:13:31] <chromas> That's the one I've seen the most of
[19:14:03] <cmn32480> I stareted at S1E1
[19:15:48] <cmn32480> after this I'll try DS9 again
[19:16:02] <cmn32480> it was one I could never get inot
[19:16:22] <chromas> JJ Abrams is the perfect director for Star Trek movies
[19:17:13] <cmn32480> with extra lens flare
[19:17:19] <chromas> You might think that Star Trek is supposed to be about smart people being diplomatic and talking things out instead of a bunch of action scenes, but then look at the TNG movies
[19:17:49] <cmn32480> they were not exactly on par woth the theme of the show...
[19:18:26] <cmn32480> and of course... there was "fat Riker"
[19:18:58] <chromas> Look at all the fatophobia in here
[19:19:09] <chromas> Bigots! All of you bigots!
[19:19:53] <cmn32480> I resemble the fat part... just a lot shorter
[19:20:29] * chromas creates the Soylent dept of Social Justice dept and shoves his CoC down the channel's throat
[19:20:43] <cmn32480> 104 of 188
[19:20:54] <chromas> Do any of the newer serieseses have movies?
[19:21:01] <cmn32480> don't think so
[19:21:15] <cmn32480> I think TNG was the last movies until the reboot
[19:21:18] <chromas> They should make a series based on the new movies
[19:21:50] * cmn32480 gets vapor lock from that statement
[19:22:05] <chromas> Star Trek: Beyond Shakycam
[19:22:48] <cmn32480> Nemesis... the film that killed TNG
[19:23:04] <chromas> Was that the first one?
[19:23:10] <cmn32480> last one
[19:23:38] <cmn32480> Generations was the first one... had Shatner and a few others in it
[19:23:46] * chromas puts on the Plinket reviews
[19:30:28] <paulej72> I need to watch ds9 from the begining.
[19:30:44] <cmn32480> that will be the plan...
[19:30:55] <cmn32480> then if I make it throuhg that... I'll try Voyager again...
[19:31:07] <cmn32480> neither of them really struck my fancy when they were on the air
[19:31:19] <paulej72> BBCA has Voyager on Mondays
[19:31:31] <cmn32480> Netflix has it on demand
[19:31:35] <chromas> Is that the one where Luke goes back in time to save the Doc from killer robots?
[19:31:41] <cmn32480> yes
[19:31:55] <cmn32480> with his walking carpet side kick, Cousin It
[19:32:01] <paulej72> I liked both, but DS9 was on when I had poor access to TV (clooege years)
[19:32:20] <cmn32480> ie. when we was all poor AF
[19:33:09] <paulej72> Wondering if I should break down and get a Netflix account
[19:33:51] <cmn32480> I'm thinking about dumping my TV sub
[19:34:25] <paulej72> I don't think I could survive that just yet
[19:34:26] <cmn32480> need to get a streaming server set up first
[19:35:36] <cmn32480> I have the RPi... need to get it loaded w/ Kodi and see what I can make it do
[19:37:13] <janrinok> loads of things!
[19:38:02] <cmn32480> oh good.. the peanut gallery has returned!
[19:38:44] <janrinok> just came back to say goodbye - but sod you then!
[19:38:54] <cmn32480> ~gnight S!
[19:38:56] * exec readily nudges a cornhole of turkey burger toward S!
[19:39:02] <janrinok> I might just stay and torment you
[19:39:03] <cmn32480> kick janrionok's butt for us
[19:39:19] <cmn32480> kick janrinokfor us
[19:39:36] <cmn32480> stupid fingers
[19:39:51] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480 from S
[19:39:53] * exec diarrhetically requisitions a boatload of pork for cmn32480
[19:39:58] <cmn32480> ~gnight S
[19:40:00] * exec metrosexually inserts a purse of eyeball jelly into S
[19:40:14] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[19:40:16] * exec cromulently culturally enriches a matrix of pants with cmn32480
[19:40:20] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:40:22] * exec whole-heartedly fires a blerg of windows vista at janrinok
[19:40:24] <janrinok> ~gnight chromas
[19:40:25] * exec suspiciously farts a massive fart an attack helicopter of cromulence at chromas
[19:40:30] <cmn32480> give the lady a hug for me
[19:40:32] <paulej72> ~gnight janrinok
[19:40:33] <chromas> ~g'night janrinok
[19:40:35] * exec abrasively reticulates a box of toaster leavins for janrinok
[19:40:36] * exec seductively deletes a rusty trombone of MP from janrinok
[19:40:46] <janrinok> will do
[19:40:51] <janrinok> ~gnight paulej72
[19:40:53] * exec theoretically derives a wad of tagnuts from paulej72
[19:41:04] <janrinok> ~gnight grandma
[19:41:06] * exec readily pilfers a tablespoon of tea from grandma
[19:41:12] <cmn32480> ~gnight john boy
[19:41:14] * exec sexually formulates a bucket of maple syrup for john
[19:41:28] <janrinok> 'zactly - and with that he left
[19:41:31] -!- janrinok has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[19:41:36] <cmn32480> lol
[19:42:38] <cmn32480> 126 of 188
[19:42:50] <paulej72> press the turbo button cmn32480
[19:43:07] <cmn32480> it's a VM... I don't think it has a turbo button
[19:43:27] <paulej72> what is it on spiining rust?
[19:43:50] <cmn32480> I think so
[19:43:56] <paulej72> shame
[19:44:14] <paulej72> vms on ssd are wicked fast
[19:44:21] <chromas> Suspend it, move the virtual disk to a ramdisk
[19:44:27] <cmn32480> the delta in price when we bought the VRTX was way too expensive
[19:47:51] <cmn32480> days like today... I wish I had them
[19:55:20] <cmn32480> 52 more updates to go...
[19:55:21] <cmn32480> ugh
[19:58:17] <xhedit> woo, passed tech and general ham exam
[19:58:41] <chromas> nice
[19:58:44] <chromas> xhedit++
[19:58:44] <Bender> karma - xhedit: 4
[19:58:52] <cmn32480> bacon++
[19:58:52] <Bender> karma - bacon: 324
[19:59:08] <chromas> bacon_radio++
[19:59:08] <Bender> karma - bacon_radio: 1
[19:59:29] <chromas> Need a new nexus
[19:59:34] <chromas> SoylentHams
[20:00:10] <cmn32480> it'd be good if we got 1 new nexus to start...
[20:00:19] <cmn32480> or maybe the long awaited site upgrade
[20:00:23] <xhedit> what's involved with a nexus
[20:00:36] <cmn32480> it is a glorified topic
[20:00:47] <cmn32480> but allows you to skip out on the stories therin
[20:01:04] <cmn32480> so, if you don't wanna see the politics stories, uncheck the box, and you don't see them
[20:01:09] <xhedit> ds9 is one of the better treks btw
[20:01:25] <cmn32480> i was pretty young when it was on
[20:01:35] <xhedit> m etoo
[20:01:41] <xhedit> but it has arcs unlike TNG
[20:01:58] <xhedit> the first couple seasons can be kinda weak, but the characters definitely come into their own
[20:01:59] <cmn32480> TNG was very much a single episode storyline
[20:03:29] <xhedit> I rate TNG highest, then ds9, then TSO, Enterprise, Voyager I guess.
[20:03:37] <dyingtolive> there were a handful of arcs in TNG, but yeah, it was pretty much a... i think the word is serial?
[20:03:49] <cmn32480> I believe that is the correct term
[20:03:58] <cmn32480> the borg.
[20:04:03] <cmn32480> Data's quest to be more human
[20:04:08] <cmn32480> not too many others
[20:04:13] <xhedit> sela
[20:04:37] <xhedit> i think that's her name? the romulan daughter of tasha yar
[20:04:50] <dyingtolive> i think the Q stuff had a few muli-episode stuff. i recall a handful of other minor ones that were maybe two episodes long. a handful of frustrating "to be continued..." episodes anyway.
[20:05:08] <cmn32480> yeah
[20:05:19] <cmn32480> Q and the romulan
[20:05:31] <cmn32480> the Arbitor of Succession for the Klingon Empire
[20:05:51] <dyingtolive> i can't decide if i liked TNG or DS9 more. they're both pretty equal for me. from what i can tell, most normies disliked DS(
[20:05:56] <dyingtolive> DS9 even.
[20:06:08] <dyingtolive> too hungover to remove my finger from shift key.
[20:06:56] <cmn32480> I never got into DS9... but I'm gonna try again after I finish binging TNG
[20:07:20] <dyingtolive> it was much better watching it in order. even then, it didn't really get good until the end.
[20:07:52] <dyingtolive> which was unfortunate, because they replaced the hot chick with a much less hot chick.
[20:07:54] <cmn32480> 146 of 188
[20:08:00] <xhedit> yeah the last 2 seasons were really great
[20:08:00] * cmn32480 bangs head on desk
[20:08:07] <xhedit> worf was a great addition
[20:08:10] <cmn32480> then they shit canned it
[20:09:35] <dyingtolive> i was okay with the end of DS9. i felt like they wrapped up enough of it to call it quits properly.
[20:10:01] <dyingtolive> better than most shows.
[20:10:18] <xhedit> i liked ezri
[20:10:35] <xhedit> she is cute rather than pretty like jadzia
[20:10:37] <dyingtolive> most of my friends are always like "nah bro, B5 was where it was at". i just couldn't get into that one. maybe i need to give it another shot.
[20:10:58] <xhedit> B5 was a great show too, but it feels more dated then trek
[20:11:24] <xhedit> than*
[20:11:27] <cmn32480> I'll have to try B5 too
[20:11:37] <dyingtolive> i mean ezri wasn't bad, but my teenage hormoes man!
[20:11:52] <dyingtolive> hormones. man, i need another drink.
[20:13:20] <cmn32480> lol
[20:14:05] <xhedit> now i have to find a flash image for my ti-89 since they wiped teh shit out of it for the exam
[20:15:49] * cmn32480 can't spell grafing calcutator
[20:21:46] * TheMightyBuzzard wants a giraffeing calculator
[20:22:44] <cmn32480> 157 of 188...
[20:39:13] <cmn32480> 170 of 188
[20:39:18] <cmn32480> please kill me
[20:39:36] <dyingtolive> what are you doing?
[20:39:39] <chromas> He's a, he's a sufferin'
[20:39:55] <chromas> we'll have to put 'im down like old yeller
[20:40:09] * TheMightyBuzzard grabs his rifle
[20:40:41] <cmn32480> dyingtolive - I had to nuke and pave a Windows Server2012 R2 box
[20:41:04] <dyingtolive> that sounds like a pleasure.
[20:41:07] <chromas> This time make a snapshot
[20:41:15] <cmn32480> windows updates have been running for several hours
[20:41:31] <chromas> ^ he thinks he's almost done
[20:41:33] <dyingtolive> oh, you put windows back on it?
[20:41:50] <dyingtolive> yeah, that would suck.
[20:41:59] * chromas wonders if exchange runs in wine
[20:42:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait till one update fails and it rolls them all back and reboots
[20:42:27] <cmn32480> exchange doesn't run on Linux....
[20:42:28] <dyingtolive> did it get pwned? what happened to it?
[20:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> then we get to see the fun stuff
[20:43:58] <cmn32480> nah it started life as one thing... and I need it to be something else.
[20:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> broken?
[20:44:24] <cmn32480> by design, good sir
[20:44:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> just so long as it's intentional
[20:45:42] <cmn32480> it was supposed to be the new SQLServer... but plans changed... and I need it to be the new Edge Transport server for Exchange
[20:46:05] * chromas takes off his hat and holds it over his heart
[20:46:18] <dyingtolive> and that requires an os reinstall?
[20:46:41] <cmn32480> there were.... issues.... uninstalling SQLServer
[20:46:53] <chromas> Perhaps he checked too many boxes at once and deactivted windows
[20:46:58] <cmn32480> and the edge transport didn't wanna go in right...
[20:46:58] <dyingtolive> i'm pretty stupid about windows. i know it plays games and i know it gets removed from new laptops, and that's about all i know about it.
[20:47:30] <cmn32480> and I got frustrated.. and that was a couple hours ago
[20:47:52] <cmn32480> you know the old saying... "Nuke it from orbit... it's the only way to be sure"
[20:48:16] <chromas> that's usually when you're trying to get rid of it though
[20:48:24] <chromas> "Nuke it from orbit, then put it back how it is"
[20:48:27] <cmn32480> had to nuke it before I paved it over
[20:48:47] <dyingtolive> chromas: you know what they say, sometimes you gotta burn your village to save it.
[20:49:07] <chromas> Worked in Germany
[20:49:12] <chromas> Now look how many lawyers we have
[20:50:26] <chromas> How 'bout them updates?
[20:50:49] <cmn32480> 179 of 188
[20:51:27] <cmn32480> 180
[20:51:37] <cmn32480> hell.. I feel like ciri
[20:51:37] <dyingtolive> queue 10-minute reboots for the next three hours.
[20:52:03] <chromas> ciri holds a conversation better
[20:52:11] <cmn32480> ouch
[20:52:53] * chromas sets dickery to maximum
[20:52:54] <cmn32480> 181
[20:54:16] <cmn32480> 182
[20:56:30] <cmn32480> 183
[20:57:04] <cmn32480> and.... blue screen
[20:57:14] <cmn32480> I kid... I kid
[20:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proposing From the Bridge of the Enterprise - http://sylnt.us - boldy-going-where-no-man-has-gone-before?
[20:58:23] <cmn32480> 184
[20:59:18] <cmn32480> 185
[21:00:25] <cmn32480> 186
[21:01:52] <cmn32480> 187
[21:02:03] <cmn32480> stay on target.... stay on target.....
[21:03:08] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[21:03:12] <exec> └─ 13The Donald - Trumpwave - YouTube
[21:03:21] <cmn32480> 188
[21:04:02] * cmn32480 crosses his finger
[21:04:14] <chromas> Just one?
[21:04:21] <cmn32480> they call me lefty
[21:04:58] * cmn32480 crosses his fingers
[21:05:07] * cmn32480 clicks restart
[21:05:22] <chromas> Crossing one takes moar skillz
[21:08:43] <cmn32480> cardassians are also a story arc in TNG
[21:09:00] * cmn32480 knows because one of those episodes are currently on Netflix
[21:11:54] <chromas> kardassians
[21:11:59] <chromas> cardashians
[21:12:15] <cmn32480> they look about the same
[21:12:56] <chromas> One probably contributes a little more to society
[21:13:30] <cmn32480> that woudl be the XCardassians
[21:15:13] <dyingtolive> i mean, one is a set of fictional characters that built an empire through skullduggery and deciet, and no one in the universe likes them, but still somehow they haven't been destroyed, and the other one is a race on star trek.
[21:15:57] <cmn32480> precisely
[21:16:29] <cmn32480> 16% updates complete
[21:16:38] <cmn32480> Don't turn off your computer
[21:18:29] <cmn32480> 30%
[21:19:48] <cmn32480> restarting...
[21:20:02] <cmn32480> c'mon schwartz... c'mobn schwartz
[21:27:00] <chromas> I see your schwartz is as big as mine
[21:37:06] <dyingtolive> radio silence. cmn, did you jump off the building because it choked?
[21:38:43] <chromas> He got really involved with a plot twist
[21:40:26] <cmn32480> it actually worked
[21:40:36] * cmn32480 is plesantly surprised
[21:40:37] <chromas> Oh. He was in shock
[21:40:51] <cmn32480> almost surprised enough to go get a beer in celebration
[22:10:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, so all your updates installed correctly and it DIDN'T roll them all back again?
[22:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Opposition Leader Alexei Navalny Found Guilty of Embezzlement - http://sylnt.us - in-soviet-russia-money-embezzles-you
[22:52:08] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah.. I had a beer to celebrate
[22:59:16] <cmn32480> and the consultant has finished for the day. Now I get to deal with the firewall.
[22:59:30] <cmn32480> Everybody please pray to $diety
[23:11:07] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[23:21:43] <cmn32480> fuck
[23:21:49] <cmn32480> stupid useless prayers
[23:22:19] <dyingtolive> i prayed to Odin. i do not think he cared.
[23:23:45] <dyingtolive> you should probably also image this hard drive so that you actually have a functional and semi-updated windows box if something goes wrong with the exchange install.
[23:23:47] <cmn32480> obviously not
[23:24:17] <cmn32480> already took a copy of the VM before I staerted the exchagne install
[23:30:39] * cmn32480 is fucked.
[23:51:42] <dyingtolive> so what went wrong?
[23:54:58] <cmn32480> firewall reboot didn't come back...
[23:55:08] * cmn32480 thignks that his firewall is flaky
[23:55:32] <cmn32480> this means a trip to the office tonight to reboot.
[23:55:48] * cmn32480 curses repeatedly
[23:56:00] <dyingtolive> ilo or anything like that?
[23:56:02] <cmn32480> good thing I've only had 1 beer
[23:56:19] <dyingtolive> call the janitor and ask him to push the button?
[23:56:42] <cmn32480> no... I was planning on spending next week getting an installation of pfSense up and running
[23:57:47] <cmn32480> to start testing... that woudl have geven me a back door
[23:58:18] <cmn32480> but I don't have anythign (if the firewalls are down) that allwos me in from outside
[23:58:53] <Bytram> not even an old dial-up-modem?
[23:58:55] <dyingtolive> that sucks. i'm so glad i'm not sysadmining anymore.
[23:59:13] <Bytram> ^^ wha he said
[23:59:24] <cmn32480> we don't ahve any copper phones either
[23:59:55] <Bytram> bummer