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[02:40:21] <Deucalion> ~weather
[02:40:22] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 37°F / 3°C, cloudy, wind NE at 5 mph, humidity 80% - Wednesday cloudy (33°F:42°F / 1°C:6°C), Thursday cloudy (34°F:39°F / 1°C:4°C), Friday cloudy (32°F:38°F / 0°C:3°C), Saturday cloudy (34°F:40°F / 1°C:4°C)
[02:41:48] <Deucalion> NCommander, you got refs on your writing most of the UEFI spec?
[02:46:35] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, if you aren't at least 25% anything, you, good sir, are a mutt
[03:17:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Too Much Time Indoors Might Harm Children's Eyesight - http://sylnt.us - eye-see-what-you-a-looking-at
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[05:59:26] <chromas> hah
[05:59:42] <chromas> "you'll pollute the ground!" *tosses trash*
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[10:57:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fire at Samsung SDI China Plant Caused by Faulty Batteries - http://sylnt.us - palpable-irony
[11:15:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:15:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3188
[12:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rackspace to Cut US Workforce by 6% - http://sylnt.us - cutting-to-make-it-grow
[12:31:17] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:31:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3189
[12:31:33] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - more spam - https://soylentnews.org
[12:31:35] <exec> └─ 13Professional Bail Bonds: SoylentNews Submission
[12:31:40] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:31:41] * exec suspiciously gives a pile of hatred to TheMightyBuzzard
[12:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:33:15] * exec half-heartedly piles a pit of whoopass on cmn32480
[12:33:27] <cmn32480> i think you won
[12:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fraid so
[12:35:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> spammer pwned
[12:35:22] <cmn32480> appreciate it
[12:35:41] * TheMightyBuzzard goes back to watching the flash
[12:37:00] <cmn32480> that shoudl eb quick
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[13:57:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - So Tell Me Again, How Do You Pronounce "Quinoa"? - http://sylnt.us - keen-wah
[14:01:03] <FatPhil> ~weather Espo
[14:01:04] <exec> 10Espoo, Finland - currently 20°F / -7°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 3 mph, humidity 74% - Thursday partly cloudy (13°F:20°F / -11°C:-7°C), Friday partly cloudy (16°F:25°F / -9°C:-4°C), Saturday cloudy (24°F:28°F / -4°C:-2°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (27°F:31°F / -3°C:-1°C)
[14:20:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have to run to a meeting momentarily
[14:21:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> but someone who is a fan of the Pale Moon web browser should write up a submission about version 27.1 being released: https://forum.palemoon.org
[14:21:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> (compatibility with Firefox extensions should be *much* improved)
[14:21:46] <exec> └─ 13Pale Moon 27.1 released! - Pale Moon forum
[14:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would but i can't get it working on gentoo-based boxen
[14:25:30] <boru> Someone should pay me to fix the BSD port soon.
[14:25:43] <boru> I have no other source of motivation at the moment.
[14:26:28] * TheMightyBuzzard dccs boru a dollar
[14:35:14] <Runaway1956> They're killin me here - I'm laughing so hard, I'm gonna have a stroke
[14:35:19] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[14:35:21] <exec> └─ 13Get Yo Ass Out of America! by Chuck Redden - YouTube
[14:42:41] <cmn32480> pron is usually better for a stroke than our comment feed Runaway1956
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[14:54:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> Already, I had time between meetings to do a submission myself.
[14:54:42] * cmn32480 falls over in shock
[14:55:49] <Runaway1956> LMAO
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[16:12:07] <Bytram> coffee++
[16:12:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3190
[16:12:09] <Bytram> !uid
[16:12:09] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6492, owned by Creaky
[16:12:17] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[16:12:18] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 7°F, cloudy, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 66% - Thursday snow (-2°F:10°F), Friday partly cloudy (-16°F:8°F), Saturday snow showers (-8°F:10°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (12°F:20°F)
[16:12:21] <Bytram> ~weather portland,me
[16:12:23] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 20°F, heavy snow storm, wind NE at 14 mph, humidity 82% - Thursday snow (7°F:21°F), Friday partly cloudy (5°F:16°F), Saturday snow (18°F:24°F), Sunday snow (30°F:36°F)
[16:12:26] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[16:12:28] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 29°F, snow, wind N at 27 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday heavy snow storm (12°F:29°F), Friday cloudy (15°F:22°F), Saturday snow showers (27°F:36°F), Sunday rain and snow (35°F:40°F)
[16:12:46] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[16:12:47] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 34°F, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 21 mph, humidity 61% - Thursday cloudy (24°F:36°F), Friday partly cloudy (35°F:40°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (47°F:62°F), Sunday showers (45°F:50°F)
[16:13:00] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[16:13:02] <exec> 10Miami, FL, USA - currently 77°F, mostly cloudy, wind W at 11 mph, humidity 79% - Thursday scattered thunderstorms (65°F:85°F), Friday partly cloudy (66°F:75°F), Saturday partly cloudy (67°F:76°F), Sunday partly cloudy (62°F:77°F)
[16:13:10] <Bytram> ~weather montego bay
[16:13:11] <exec> 10Montego Bay, Jamaica - currently 85°F, mostly sunny, wind E at 8 mph, humidity 64% - Thursday partly cloudy (73°F:87°F), Friday sunny (74°F:87°F), Saturday partly cloudy (73°F:83°F), Sunday thunderstorm (71°F:84°F)
[16:14:02] <saxdm> Bytram: torturing yourself?
[16:14:06] <Bytram> all right, break time... will check in later
[16:15:11] <Bytram> q/uit
[16:17:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weathe kspg
[16:17:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather kspg
[16:17:17] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[16:17:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 33701
[16:17:28] <exec> 10Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA - currently 75°F / 24°C, mostly sunny, wind NW at 11 mph, humidity 74% - Thursday partly cloudy (54°F:75°F / 12°C:24°C), Friday sunny (58°F:73°F / 14°C:23°C), Saturday sunny (59°F:74°F / 15°C:23°C), Sunday sunny (62°F:73°F / 17°C:23°C)
[16:35:32] <paulej72> ~weather
[16:35:33] <exec> 10Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 29°F / -2°C, snow showers, wind NW at 18 mph, humidity 77% - Thursday cloudy (15°F:29°F / -9°C:-2°C), Friday partly cloudy (25°F:31°F / -4°C:-1°C), Saturday cloudy (36°F:46°F / 2°C:8°C), Sunday rain (37°F:43°F / 3°C:6°C)
[16:35:44] <paulej72> SNOW DAY :) :) :)
[16:36:00] <paulej72> no work for me today
[16:40:39] <cmn32480> sure... rub it in
[16:40:50] <cmn32480> and if you got no work today.. roll out the site update!
[16:40:59] * cmn32480 cracks the ship at paulej72
[16:41:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> there's never any snow where I live :(
[16:41:13] <cmn32480> whose fault is that?
[16:41:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> cracks the *ship*? that's a new one... does it sink?
[16:41:59] <paulej72> no I am saving the update for the weekend. Maybe bytram will find another defect before then
[16:42:23] <cmn32480> AndyTheAbsurd - Titanically...
[16:42:47] <cmn32480> if you want bytram to quit finding bugs, you gotta tell TMB to write better code
[16:42:59] <paulej72> Early welded liberty ships were known to crack and sink due to cold temperatures
[16:45:32] <cmn32480> I've heard that but have never looked into it to see if it was true or not
[16:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 3-D Television is Dead... So What Next? - http://sylnt.us - death-of-curved-tvs
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[18:06:15] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -12°C/10°F, 1:06 pm GMT-5, Thursday, 9 February 2017
[18:06:52] <nick> what's the cmd to change weather location again?
[18:22:58] <cmn32480> ~weatheradd <location> I think
[18:23:11] <cmn32480> ~weather-add New York
[18:23:12] <exec> name "New" set for location "York"
[18:23:30] <cmn32480> ~weather-add <nick> <location>
[18:23:31] <exec> name "<nick>" set for location "<location>"
[18:23:40] <cmn32480> ~weather <nick>
[18:23:42] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[18:23:45] <cmn32480> lol
[18:24:17] <nick> ~weather-add nick montevideo
[18:24:18] <exec> name "nick" set for location "montevideo"
[18:24:27] <cmn32480> back in SA?
[18:24:31] <nick> yup
[18:24:40] <cmn32480> tell me it is warmer there than it was in the UP
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[18:24:52] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 23°C/73°F, 3:24 pm GMT-3, Thursday, 9 February 2017
[18:25:05] <nick> yup
[18:25:46] <cmn32480> good
[18:25:50] <cmn32480> I hope you thaw
[18:25:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 12th "Dead Sea Scroll Cave" Discovered, With Evidence of Looting - http://sylnt.us - destruction-of-human-history
[18:40:51] <mechanicjay> hrm, for the re-re-rebuild of my desktop this weekend, do go Gentoo, OpenSuse 42.2, or OpenSuse Tumbleweed....
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[18:57:11] <cmn32480> Follow the buzzard... go Calculate!
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[20:37:53] * Bytram is sooooooo confused with this new page layout on dev -- sense no makes!
[20:38:30] <Bytram> see: https://dev.soylentnews.org
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[20:39:27] <chromas> There's no expand-all either :'(
[20:39:36] <Bytram> I've got threshold set to 0... so I would expect to see all comments that scored 0 (or better) displayed in full. All I'm seeing is 'abbreviated headings'
[20:39:58] <Bytram> this is as a brand-new user, using only defaults.
[20:40:45] <Bytram> the above url explicitizes the filter options, tried that after I saw the same thing with just: https://dev.soylentnews.org
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[20:41:14] <Bytram> and thought it might have something to do with the code making a mistake between accessing defaults vs using explicit values.
[20:41:17] <Bytram> no joy on that one.
[20:41:29] <chromas> With that link I get all comments expanded; not logged in
[20:41:46] <Bytram> you mean as user "Anonymous Coward"?
[20:42:33] <chromas> aye
[20:42:57] <Bytram> ISTR seeing that, too.
[20:43:18] <Bytram> what is it showing for counts for threshold/breakthrough
[20:43:19] <Bytram> ?
[20:43:46] <Bytram> I'm seeing thresh: 0:19 and break: 4:0
[20:43:56] <chromas> 0:19 0:19
[20:44:02] <Bytram> hmmm
[20:44:15] <chromas> Logged in I get -1:19 0:19
[20:44:35] <Bytram> k... and what do you see then?
[20:44:50] <chromas> All comments expanded
[20:44:55] <Bytram> I would guess you see all 19 comments, fully expanded?
[20:44:59] <Bytram> k
[20:47:36] * Bytram while experiencing great trepidation that it may change his machine defaults, opens opera browser
[20:48:47] <chromas> It shouldn't without asking first
[20:49:05] <Bytram> agreed, and that is why the trepidation... it did
[20:49:27] <Bytram> had to manually go in and fix settings for: assoc / ftype
[20:49:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Opera Mobile turned on its "show me news alerts as notifications" function during a recent upgrade without prompting me
[20:49:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> so frankly I wouldn't trust it not to change things on a desktop either
[20:50:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> (sadly I can't even uninstall it; it's one of the few pieces of bloatware that my phone came with)
[20:50:29] <Bytram> nod nod -- thanks for the confirmation
[20:50:38] <chromas> You can also do: xdg-settings set default-web-browser whatever.desktop
[20:51:12] * chromas gives AndyTheAbsurd root access
[20:51:26] <Bytram> chromas: don't think that will work so well on windows
[20:51:27] <Bytram> :/
[20:52:54] <charon> hi Bytram!
[20:53:27] <Bytram> hi
[20:53:52] * Bytram is trying to keep his head from exploding trying to figure out how the new comment processing code works
[20:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't really think breakthrough is doing anything
[20:57:04] <Bytram> au contraire
[20:57:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, yeah it is
[20:57:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's basically two thresholds. with the one called threshold applied first.
[20:57:59] <Bytram> but I am utterly unable to make a rational mental model of what it is doing and why.
[20:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's exactly what it is
[20:59:24] <Bytram> to my way of thinking, if a top-level comment has a score of threshold or better it gets displayed. Breakthrough means that if a *reply* appears under a comment below the threshold, but matches or exceeds the breakthrough value, then it gets displayed in full, too.
[21:00:10] <Bytram> seeing 5-10 "comment below your threshold" lines in a row is, ummm, awkward
[21:00:25] <chromas> the Preferences gives more description. Is it still accurate?
[21:00:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's what it used to mean. not anymore.
[21:01:41] <Bytram> well, you are dealing with about 15 years of experience in things working the old way... so we are going to need a very clear explanation of what the controls are, what they are intended to do, and some concrete examples to make it clear.
[21:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's now what i said above. two thresholds with exactly the same logic. "Threshold" collapses them so you don't even see the title and takes precedence over "breakthrough" which still shows you the title.
[21:02:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i think that's a bug but i don't know that there's a way around it.
[21:02:20] <chromas> Do we still need both then?
[21:02:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really
[21:02:51] <chromas> While you're at it, put the date 'n' stuff on the top row too :)
[21:03:12] <chromas> Maybe un-bold "by"
[21:03:49] <Bytram> "don't even see the title"? You mean the "comment below your threshold"? or the "single line with no red bar which has the chevrons comment-title, score, nick, subscriber star", or the full-0blown comment?
[21:04:11] <Bytram> it's the tri-state stuff that is giving my brain kinnipshions
[21:05:26] <Bytram> and... if we are thinking of going live with this, then the FAQ / HELP / Preferences pages need to be up-to-date and accurately describe the behavior.
[21:06:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm calling it a bug and seeing if pj can fix it easily before he rolls the code live. otherwise we SHOULD just eliminate breakthrough.
[21:06:31] <Bytram> don't get me wrong, I think it's pretty slick what you've got the code to do, but it's just not quite there yet.
[21:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on whilst i push the latest code in master to dev
[21:06:57] <Bytram> oh? oh.
[21:07:24] * Bytram just spent half his day off beating on backlevel code?
[21:07:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> only a tiny bit
[21:08:00] <Bytram> I need to take a break.
[21:08:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> deployed now. gonna go smoke.
[21:08:39] <chromas> He's disappointed he's been beating the wrong thing
[21:13:11] <Bytram> chromas: appreciate your taking a look at things for me - thanks!
[21:14:13] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so, if the breakthrough is removed, how can I best make the current UI behave the same way it would without it, set it to -1??
[21:14:14] <chromas> If I can help break something just lemme know :D
[21:15:03] <Bytram> chromas: I will definitely take you up on that!
[21:15:43] * cmn32480 passes chromas a baseball abt
[21:16:16] <Bytram> would that be a Luisville Plugger?
[21:16:21] <Bytram> ;)
[21:16:28] <cmn32480> prolly
[21:16:34] * chromas covers his butt
[21:18:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, by having pj fix breakthrough. you currently can not make this ui behave the same was as the other.
[21:18:56] <Bytram> yeah, I'm getting that, and I'm not terribly bothered by it -- *IF* there is a *clear* and *succinct* explanation of what the controls are and how they work.
[21:19:22] <chromas> <TheMightyBuzzard> Documentation? Time to go fooshin' see ya
[21:19:36] <Bytram> oh? Now THAT is weird!
[21:20:44] <Bytram> I'm using Opera (FWIW), as an AC, and loaded this page: https://dev.soylentnews.org
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[21:21:33] <Bytram> scrolled down to "2nd reply to first TLC" and noticed that, immediately below it was "Comment Below Threshold"
[21:21:49] <Bytram> clicked on the "v" chevron
[21:21:57] <Bytram> saw full comment display -- nice!
[21:22:07] <Bytram> clicked on the "^" chevron
[21:22:39] <Bytram> now, I see "1st reply to 2nd reply to first TLC - ACish (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward"
[21:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, pj flipped the chevrons and fixed the image links. that was all of the changes that needed applied.
[21:23:23] <Bytram> AND... it has both a single down chevron and a double upward-pointing chevron where it had had ONLY a single down chevron before
[21:23:53] <chromas> Next update: chevrons changed to +/-
[21:23:54] <Bytram> so, the title changed and it got another chevron
[21:23:56] <chromas> >:D
[21:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird, now it's working correctly
[21:25:00] <Bytram> when I click the double chevrons, (with the title-only comment displayed) the single chevron just appears / disappears
[21:25:44] <Bytram> what is working correctly?
[21:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> breakthrough is working
[21:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe i was just looking at it wrong earlier
[21:26:21] <Bytram> linky?
[21:26:27] <Bytram> and what user are you?
[21:28:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's not working still. you just confused me.
[21:29:24] <chromas> he broke you
[21:29:32] <chromas> he's testing your mind
[21:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> look, threshold is not working correctly. it's acting the exact opposite way it should.
[21:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> it should EXPAND comments no matter if they're below threshold or not. what it's doing is simply being another threshold with lower precedence than Threshold.
[21:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> breakthrough is not working correctly rather
[21:32:04] <Bytram> yup
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[21:48:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Electronics Robust Enough for Venus - http://sylnt.us - built-fjord-tough
[21:59:37] <Bytram> chromas: loks like there are some problems with the breakthrough stuff, AFAIUI... will put the testing on hold until there's an update... appreciate the offer to help... VERY much!
[22:00:54] <Bytram> afk -- break time
[22:13:15] <cmn32480> I'm out.
[22:13:20] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
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[22:49:46] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: both behave the same, exect the old one would combine all of the comments below you threshold in a single line, which i disliked.
[22:50:19] <chromas> combine as in "3 comments below your threshold"?
[22:50:29] <paulej72> yes
[22:51:19] <paulej72> the current code pulls in all ofht comments not matter what, it just displays them differently. What could be argued is do we really need to have two levels?
[22:52:01] <paulej72> I alwasy found it to be a pain the ass, but others want to remove those comments completely
[22:52:05] <chromas> One level could filter the pulled comments
[22:52:22] * chromas always browses at -1
[22:52:42] <paulej72> I am normally at 0 or -1 depending
[22:54:00] <paulej72> This shit always happens to me. I write code and nobody tests it and then I find out they don't like how it works
[22:56:00] <paulej72> I could easily fix the code so it only uses breakthrough and just shows comment lower as collasped.
[22:56:34] <paulej72> since this code sends all of the comments anyway it should not matter
[22:57:58] <chromas> Just code what you want and tell detractors to bugger off :)
[22:59:42] <paulej72> yeah, but I think it look like ass right now and should be changed
[23:01:38] <chromas> http://www.express.co.uk
[23:01:39] <exec> └─ 13Major evacuations in train stations across Sweden following bomb threats | World | News | Express.co.uk
[23:01:45] <chromas> ^ Business as usual
[23:02:06] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: threshold has always had precient. breakthough only works on the comments that threshhold lets through
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[23:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, okay
[23:15:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, however you wanna work it man. i'm not picky as long as setting em both to -1 shows me all the comments still.
[23:18:30] <paulej72> need Bytram to weigh in on it
[23:20:04] <paulej72> I think that having only one level may be more natural and less cluttered. especially since we have multiple comment below threshhold messages
[23:21:11] <paulej72> Or I could put in code that resets the display so that breakthrough never shows below threshold
[23:22:20] <chromas> Put in some JavaScript sliders like /.
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[23:35:59] <paulej72> blarg